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I am just about to give up any software solution and contact HP to see if they can fix this as a hardware problem.
But before I do that, i thought it might be worthwhile to post my problem here first.
My touchpad has been running fine, and operating without any problems until recently when I installed new apps or downloaded new files on the touchpad.
While the touchpad was up and running, everything was fine, the apps appeared in the menu, and the files copied could be accessed without any problems.
In terms of functionality there was nothing to suggest any problems with the TP.
However, whenever I reboot the TP (soft or hard reboot), all newly installed apps or files disappear and the TP reverts back to a previous state. Nothing that I do to the TP remains after a reboot.
So I downloaded the latest webosdoctor 3.0.5 to reset the TP but after getting to about the dreaded 12% mark, the webosdoctor fails, spewing out a lot of message about parted failure and something about the flash.
Following all the tips on using novacom to boot the uImage and accessing the TP from novaterm does not seem to work as any fix initiated is lost on the following reboot.
Even while logged in to the TP via novaterm, and using lvm.static to remove the logical and physical volume to see if I can get webosdoctor to recreate the partitions did not work.
The command lvm.static vgremove reported to successfully remove the logical drive, but on subsequent scan using lvm.static vgscan shows that the logical drive is still persistent.
Removing physical volume using lvm.static pvremove did not work.
In frustration I deleted /dev/mmcblk0p14 (and all the mmcblk0???). Consequently the lvm.static scans showed no logical drive available.... but on subsequent reboot they are all back.
Webosdoctor again failed with same problem when rebooted.
It seems like the TP is falling back to some default memory (partition) state and nothing that I do remains persistent. I can't see anyway I can force the partition tables to reset as any changes are lost on reboot.
So unless someone can suggest something different, I am resigned to having to call HP and send my TP in for repairs.
Does anyone else have similar experience?
P.S. this started after I updated to webOS 3.0.5 but I can't say this was the exact cause.
I have the same problem with my touchpad. Are there any solutions?
it looks like the only way to get it fixed is to contact HP and send your TP back for repairs.
I will be contacting them next week when I have time to organise for it to be repaired.
Have you tried to run the WebOS 3.0.0 Doctor? It will resize all of the partitions and leave you with a fresh copy of WebOS. It can be found here: "http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions".
Here is what I did:
1.Completely shut down
2.Boot into recovery menu by holding Volume-Up button and then pressing the power button.
3.Run WebOS 3.0.0 doctor
If it halts for any reason, let me know what percentage it stopped on, and perhaps I can help you out.
As I have tried to outline in the OP, I have tried webosdoctoring from version 3.0.0 to 3.0.5
It doesn't have any effect as any changes to the partition is lost once the TP reboots.
I know webosdoctor 3.0.0 is the standard answer for all partition related problems, but I think in my case it is not a partition problem but more of the flash controller, that is hardware related. It might have gotten itself into a funny state where it is constantly going into fall back mode after every reboot.
I'm sure you probably read this , but the" Factory condition restoration" thread might be useful.
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I'm sure you probably read this , but the" Factory condition restoration" thread might be useful.
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This did not work for me. There is no way to remove /store
I'm having the same problem.
Device:
HP Touchpad 32 GB
WebOS: 3.0.4
Android: CM9 A2
Problem:
Every time the device is restarted, all data "magically" restores to how it was. Example: if I format the internal memory and I restart the device, all data remains as if I didn't format it.
Description:
My Touchpad has somehow gotten into a state of data lock, where I can't format it, nor recreate the filesystem in anyway.
What works:
- It loops while booting to Android
- It boots to Clockwork Recovery
- It boots to WebOS Recovery
- It boots to WebOS
- Everything works inside WebOS
- I can connect through Novaterm
What I've tried so far with no success:
- Recreating the file system
- Formating the internal storage
- Running a checkdisk
- Partitioning the storage
- Reinstalling Android
- Running WebOS Doctor 3.0.0, 3.0.4, 3.0.5
narci2500 said:
I'm having the same problem.
Problem:
Every time the device is restarted, all data "magically" restores to how it was. Example: if I format the internal memory and I restart the device, all data remains as if I didn't format it.
Description:
My Touchpad has somehow gotten into a state of data lock, where I can't format it, nor recreate the filesystem in anyway.
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Nothing worked for me. Tried every trick suggested, even mixed things a bit. In the end I had to send it back to HP for it to be fixed.
All good now, it came back all fixed.
I'm having the same issue. Did they accept the return even with Android on it?
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I'm having the same issue. Did they accept the return even with Android on it?
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yeah they accepted it with no questions asked.
But make sure you do the trouble shooting with the online chat first, it will save you time on speaking with them on the phone.
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yeah they accepted it with no questions asked.
But make sure you do the trouble shooting with the online chat first, it will save you time on speaking with them on the phone.
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good to know, thanks
So an update:
I sent it in and they just called saying that it has a 3rd party OS installed and that my warranty is void. If I wanted them to repair it, it would cost $239 or I could have it shipped back unrepaired. So now I have a sort of bricked touchpad. Any suggestions?
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So an update:
I sent it in and they just called saying that it has a 3rd party OS installed and that my warranty is void. If I wanted them to repair it, it would cost $239 or I could have it shipped back unrepaired. So now I have a sort of bricked touchpad. Any suggestions?
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Seems like it's stuck in some read-only mode. I have some ideas but you don't have the unit back, right?
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Seems like it's stuck in some read-only mode. I have some ideas but you don't have the unit back, right?
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Not yet. Should have it back by this weekend.
I also have this problem and have tried restoring my touchpad with numerous fixes on this site but they all fail and the touchpad just reboots to its previous state.
any help would be appreciated
Received it back. Would love some recommendations for possible fixes.
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Received it back. Would love some recommendations for possible fixes.
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Okay. I'll gather some information now.
djteiwaz said:
Received it back. Would love some recommendations for possible fixes.
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Bear with me. Just doing research. It's kinda hard since I don't have a device affected by this in hand.
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Bear with me. Just doing research. It's kinda hard since I don't have a device affected by this in hand.
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Not a problem. I appreciate you spending time on this for me.
I searched all over and found some similar threads, but after reading through all of them I'm still stuck and can't figure this out.
I have a 32GB Touchpad that I put CM9 Alpha .5 on, and it was working fine. Installed without a hitch. I went to flash Alpha 2, and it broke moboot - and now I have the android system on there, however I can't boot it, and I can't reflash it, which is the main problem.
When I go into recovery mode (vol up and power), and hook it up to my Windows 7 64 machine (or my 7 64 laptop, or my hackintosh OS X Lion - all with novacom drivers and whatnot) it shows up as Palm Novacom (bootie), but won't mount the USB drive so I can run ACMEInstaller2. I've tried reinstalling all the drivers, usb, novacom, etc, and even reset webOS with webdoctor. It still won't show up.
When I boot into webos and mount as disk drive, it shows up fine. I even took those drivers and replaced the palm bootie drivers with those, but that still didn't solve it. The few threads I found similar to this solved their problems by now, or it worked on another computer. I don't have easy access to other machines aside from those 3, and some friends Mac's that didn't work either. I rarely post when I run into a problem, always try to solve things on my own but I can't figure it out for the life of me. Just want to get CM9 back up and running!
Anyone have any other ideas? Greatly appreciated, thanks!
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I searched all over and found some similar threads, but after reading through all of them I'm still stuck and can't figure this out.
I have a 32GB Touchpad that I put CM9 Alpha .5 on, and it was working fine. Installed without a hitch. I went to flash Alpha 2, and it broke moboot - and now I have the android system on there, however I can't boot it, and I can't reflash it, which is the main problem.
When I go into recovery mode (vol up and power), and hook it up to my Windows 7 64 machine (or my 7 64 laptop, or my hackintosh OS X Lion - all with novacom drivers and whatnot) it shows up as Palm Novacom (bootie), but won't mount the USB drive so I can run ACMEInstaller2. I've tried reinstalling all the drivers, usb, novacom, etc, and even reset webOS with webdoctor. It still won't show up.
When I boot into webos and mount as disk drive, it shows up fine. I even took those drivers and replaced the palm bootie drivers with those, but that still didn't solve it. The few threads I found similar to this solved their problems by now, or it worked on another computer. I don't have easy access to other machines aside from those 3, and some friends Mac's that didn't work either. I rarely post when I run into a problem, always try to solve things on my own but I can't figure it out for the life of me. Just want to get CM9 back up and running!
Anyone have any other ideas? Greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Take a look at this thread. I think it could have information that could maybe help you.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508572
Thanks, bah tried all that - the problem is mounting USB recovery, can't get into androidto test anything else. I'll have access to a few other computers this weekend so I"ll see if they can find it. Going to rewipe everything tonight as well, will update... pretty annoying.
I have an idea.
What you can try is to reboot into WebOS, mount the /media drive so you can copy files to it from Windows. On that media drive, there should still be a folder called cminstall. Copy the moboot install zip back into there, and then reboot the tablet into recovery (Power+VolUp). From there, run AcmeInstaller2 again, and you should be good to go - it'll run, and force an install of the contents of that /media/cminstall folder, which'll put Moboot back in place.
At least, that's what SHOULD happen. I'm no expert, but from what I've seen and played with, that should do what you're trying to achieve.
Thanks for trying.. Not exactly what it needed to be fixed though. I have everything ready to go in uninstall, the computer (any computer I've tried so far, and its been quite a few - that all used to read the touchpad in recovery mode) won't register it and mount it as a drive so I can run ACMEInstaller in the first place.
It must have changed something on the touchpad itself, because it used to mount fine before that happened... Now every computer installs it as palm novacom booties and never mounts the actual drive, and acmeinstaller just says no device or something like that. Bah, still can't figure it out, I miss android haha.
Did you enable MTP in the advanced menu under the Storage section?
Are you trying to get the device to show up in adb? If you are having troubles with that I found a really nice guide on another website on how to get adb to read the touchpad if nothing else is working. Not sure if I can post the link or not. Send me a pm if this is something you need.
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Problem is I can't boot into android cause the bootloader broke and I can't get it to boot android period, even with cyboot. I know all l I have to do is run ACME again... But I can't run it cause it won't mount haha. Stuck in webOS for now, and every computer I've tried won't boot recovery mode anymore. Drivers check out and register but can't change anything to recognize it as a drive. I think I'm going to try to manually uninstall everything android, then reinstall webOS and see if it mounts then. Blah!
AHHH, just got it to run ACMEInstaller on my original computer. For the hell of it I tried the last thing I could think of and it worked.
In recovery mode, the touchpad still wasn't mounting the USB drive in windows, it was just installing as palm device bootie and not mounting. When I tried to run ACMEInstaller it would just say device not found.
HOWEVER; I started webOS doctor. I got to the screen where it says connect your device with a usb cable and stayed there - the next button was enabled so webosdoctor saw the touchpad. It still didn't mount, but I ran ACMEInstaller for the hell of it without going any further with webosdoctor and it just ran and completed.
Back up and running Alpha 2, whew! Hopefully this can help someone else if this happens to them.
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AHHH, just got it to run ACMEInstaller on my original computer. For the hell of it I tried the last thing I could think of and it worked.
In recovery mode, the touchpad still wasn't mounting the USB drive in windows, it was just installing as palm device bootie and not mounting. When I tried to run ACMEInstaller it would just say device not found.
HOWEVER; I started webOS doctor. I got to the screen where it says connect your device with a usb cable and stayed there - the next button was enabled so webosdoctor saw the touchpad. It still didn't mount, but I ran ACMEInstaller for the hell of it without going any further with webosdoctor and it just ran and completed.
Back up and running Alpha 2, whew! Hopefully this can help someone else if this happens to them.
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This trick with webOS doctor just saved my ass. I couldn't boot past the green cyanogenmod splash screen and needed to boot straight off an image from moboot on my desktop, and taking webOS doctor to that step was the only thing that would let me run the command line entry to make it where my PC would talk to my touchpad. So, thank you
Would this work for a TP that reads both ways on PC as listed by OP but is only stock?
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AHHH, just got it to run ACMEInstaller on my original computer. For the hell of it I tried the last thing I could think of and it worked.
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What do mean by run ACMEInstaller? I only know using the novacom boot mem:// <ACMEInstaller method, though that's getting stuck while on the two penguin screen.
Hp touchpad 32GB converted into Android 4.4.4.KitKat with ROM CM11
Hi My name is Ramadoss.N Recently I have converted my touch pad to Android KITKAT 4.4.4. with Rom CM11 -20140625- Snap Shot- jcsulline. I used TPtoolbox V41d to install. Everything working fine. except few observation.
1. Bottom Menu Button like Home , Return to previous screen are not working in vertical position of touchpad, where as it works in Horizontal position.
2. There are 3 dots on right hand side corner to provide dropdown menu: it works in vertical position, does not work in Horizontal position.
3. search icon ( which looks like a magnifying glass) does not work in both positions.
4.Back space key working in Vertical position, does not work in horizontal position.
5. Could not load Music via computer after installing Android in the Touchpad,
I really appreciate if any one can give me solution for above.
Regards
Ramadoss.N
email : [email protected]
editi guess sdcard is incorrect/confusing for my situation, it's the entire system up to root folders is stuck in a read-only type state.
I didn't really see anything that fits my current problem (sorry if there is an answer somewhere buried in here)
So to start off with info, I installed Android on the TP back in February for my fiancée just for the basics of email, videoplayer, comic reader, internet browsing. Nothing too extravagant, just something with more to offer than webos.
I never did any updates on it because it worked perfectly fine for what it was being used on.
I've changed out the video selection many times as she watches through the shows with no problems.
Now I go to change the files and I delete them, add the new stuff, all seems fine. Then I unmount it and everything I deleted is back and everything I added is gone. I've uninstalled apps and they come back, I've done updates to apps and they revert back to before the update.
I've gone into CMW and done the wipes and even formatted sdcard, cache, etc. Nothing works. Even mounting USB in CWM to add files gives the same result of them disappearing right after it is unmounted.
I've tried ACMEUnistaller but it doesn't work. I saw something flash by the screen about something failing, but it goes too fast to even really see what it's about.
Sorry this is so long. I appreciate any insight!
Kernel
2.6.35-palm-tenderloin
[email protected]ost #12
CyanogenMod version:
9.0.0-RC0-Touchpad-alpha2
Build Date
Mon, Feb 20 13:59:21 CST 2012
Build Number
IML74K
plasticsoldier said:
I didn't really see anything that fits my current problem (sorry if there is an answer somewhere buried in here)
So to start off with info, I installed Android on the TP back in February for my fiancée just for the basics of email, videoplayer, comic reader, internet browsing. Nothing too extravagant, just something with more to offer than webos.
I never did any updates on it because it worked perfectly fine for what it was being used on.
I've changed out the video selection many times as she watches through the shows with no problems.
Now I go to change the files and I delete them, add the new stuff, all seems fine. Then I unmount it and everything I deleted is back and everything I added is gone. I've uninstalled apps and they come back, I've done updates to apps and they revert back to before the update.
I've gone into CMW and done the wipes and even formatted sdcard, cache, etc. Nothing works. Even mounting USB in CWM to add files gives the same result of them disappearing right after it is unmounted.
I've tried ACMEUnistaller but it doesn't work. I saw something flash by the screen about something failing, but it goes too fast to even really see what it's about.
Sorry this is so long. I appreciate any insight!
Kernel
2.6.35-palm-tenderloin
[email protected] #12
CyanogenMod version:
9.0.0-RC0-Touchpad-alpha2
Build Date
Mon, Feb 20 13:59:21 CST 2012
Build Number
IML74K
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I've run across this 3 times with TPs I work on....
1st one had to be sent back to HP because somehow internal memory was damaged and got locked in some some of read only mode
2nd one I saw, I went into webOS, installed the internalz app, mounted the TP to the computer, then added and erased some files and from then on all was good in both webOS and Android
3rd and 4th (same customer) had to be sent in to HP
Now let me mention I live in Costa Rica so all these have been exposed to several scans at airport security checkpoints. I mention this because I haven't seen anything close to a read only problem with the TPs in the USA
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thank you so much for the info. Unfortunately Internalz didn't want to help the items stay deleted either. The stuck in read-only type mode is very weird.
I'm pretty sure I am 3 weeks out of the 1-year warranty on it, plus I am unable to remove android from it to even trick them that it just doesn't work.
I guess I'll try webos doctor and see if that can get it going.
edit: webos doctor not working, even with the closing it at 8-12% tricks and doing the lvm.static..... stuff... 'cause it of course doesn't see to actually delete anything... i'll have to double check tomorrow when i bought it, pretty sure it's over the year and since it turns on and has android kinda screwed
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thank you so much for the info. Unfortunately Internalz didn't want to help the items stay deleted either. The stuck in read-only type mode is very weird.
I'm pretty sure I am 3 weeks out of the 1-year warranty on it, plus I am unable to remove android from it to even trick them that it just doesn't work.
I guess I'll try webos doctor and see if that can get it going.
edit: webos doctor not working, even with the closing it at 8-12% tricks and doing the lvm.static..... stuff... 'cause it of course doesn't see to actually delete anything... i'll have to double check tomorrow when i bought it, pretty sure it's over the year and since it turns on and has android kinda screwed
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I would suggest trying to restore down to WebOS 3.0. In that procedure you literally wipe EVERYTHING on the internal partitions in novaterm and start from absolute scratch. Therefore, if it a software issue you could solve the problem. However, if it is a hardware issue, you'd be kinda screwed.
Yeah, none of the methods I've ended up finding about this problem or other bricked problems are working at all.
i checked at work when i bought it, which of course the 11th was the year mark... but I do have android installed so even if i can get any chance of them honouring it so close they'll probably be like "oh you have android, that'll be $$$ for us to do anything. thanks!"
So I guess I now I have a paperweight with some features.
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I've run across this 3 times with TPs I work on....
1st one had to be sent back to HP because somehow internal memory was damaged and got locked in some some of read only mode
2nd one I saw, I went into webOS, installed the internalz app, mounted the TP to the computer, then added and erased some files and from then on all was good in both webOS and Android
3rd and 4th (same customer) had to be sent in to HP
Now let me mention I live in Costa Rica so all these have been exposed to several scans at airport security checkpoints. I mention this because I haven't seen anything close to a read only problem with the TPs in the USA
Sent from my aokp_tenderloin using Tapatalk 2
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When you got the tablets back had they been fixed or were they refurbs ? Did HP say anything about Android still being on it?
There is a thread in the General forum about how to restore and downgrade. Have you tried that thread ? It is usually a great way to try and get that last restore before sending it back to HP.
73 de VE6AY
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how are you adding and deleting files when in android? which version of android do you have installed? have you tried different rom versions? have you tried moving and/or deleting files over adb? are you using windows or linux on your computer that youre connecting the touchpad to? it doesnt make sense that the sdcard would be set to read only. is it only certain folders that you cant modify the contents of, or is it the entire sdcard? are you able to modify contents of folders in the / directory of the device using root file explorer or es file explorer in android? have you run "fix permissions"? Also, running webosdoctor wont wipe the sdcard contents or format the sdcard in any way. its going to change the data in the webos partition and may change some data in the /boot directory.
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When you got the tablets back had they been fixed or were they refurbs ? Did HP say anything about Android still being on it?
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They had been fixed but the owners sent them off and had to pay for the whole thing because they had Android on them. When I got my hands on them again I just reinstalled Android. HP charged a little over a hundred dollars for the fix
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They had been fixed but the owners sent them off and had to pay for the whole thing because they had Android on them. When I got my hands on them again I just reinstalled Android. HP charged a little over a hundred dollars for the fix
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Thanks for the answer, this would tend to suggest that the problem is software based corrupted or otherwise. I am trying to find a program that will allow me to read/format the Android partition on my windows computer and will let you know if come up with anything.
Regards
i guess i should change the title slightly.. it's not sdcard, but basically the entire touchpad contents. go to root and delete whatever i want and it doesn't matter. connect it and format with windows and it doesn't actually matter.
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how are you adding and deleting files when in android?
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i've added and deleted just by using mtp. i've also deleted the files on the android side with the video player (vplayer) i've installed es file explorer (which after restart is gone) and deleted with that. i've also gone into webos and installed internalz pro and deleted files that way, which it then seems to work until i of course do anything related to restarting.
some of the files i've put on, i've had it recognize briefly. so for the video file, start it, then it gets really choppy/glitchy playing it. so stop it, go back into the vplayer and it's back to the old stuff
which version of android do you have installed? have you tried different rom versions?
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android version 4.0.3. nothing else will install. if i add files while in android, when i boot into cwm they are gone. if i mount usb in cwm and add them they stay briefly but when i try to flash them they fail.
have you tried moving and/or deleting files over adb? are you using windows or linux on your computer that youre connecting the touchpad to?
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i have not tried adb yet, just not as familiar using it properly, i will give it a try though.
i am using windows 7 on my laptop currently. i do have a pc upstairs that i barely use that has vista, but i don't know how that would make a difference to the touchpad
it doesnt make sense that the sdcard would be set to read only. is it only certain folders that you cant modify the contents of, or is it the entire sdcard?
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yeah as i put above i guess saying sdcard was a bit confusing/misleading (my bad, sorry!), i didn't really know what else to call it at the time or how to explain myself properly at first.
are you able to modify contents of folders in the / directory of the device using root file explorer or es file explorer in android?
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i can move/delete/modify anything which has absolutely no effect to the device. i've used es file explorer and gone up to root and deleted everything and the system runs fine. says the system is empty with lots of free space (its the 32gb model) but restart or even go into recovery and everything is once again there.
have you run "fix permissions"?
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i've run it a few times. just acts likes it's working and then says done. i've even gone into the mounts and storage in cwm and formatted sdcard/cache/data/system. does nothing at all in the end of things
Also, running webosdoctor wont wipe the sdcard contents or format the sdcard in any way. its going to change the data in the webos partition and may change some data in the /boot directory.
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it was just something to try to get somewhere right. it never gets past 12%. always fails to reboot.
I am currently letting the battery drain and see if it dying and then being charged will do anything. probably not. but who knows. i talked to a "tech" on the chat support (i never mentioned android) who told me that having preware installed in webos causing it to become corrupt and they "don't knowledge of preware installed devices" exact words. no idea what that means haha don't have knowledge, don't acknowledge...
anyhow. i've not quite given up. i just don't really see it turning out any differently from the previous times. i do appreciate all the feedback and help very much though
ok so heres what I would try. First try flashing a new fresh rom. download one that you want to your computer like cm9 nightly or aokp or whatever you feel like. then boot into CWM recovery connect the touchpad to the computer via usb. then connect to the touchpad with adb. I'm not sure how to do this in windows because it's been so long since I've done it on a windows box, I always use linux.
adb has alot of options, you can move files to and from the device, you can uninstall or install app packages, and more. this way you can adb push the rom .zip to the touchpad's sdcard while youre in cwm recovery. this way you dont have to reboot the touchpad and risk having the file disappear, you can just go to 'install zip from sdcard' and then 'choose zip from sdcard' in cwm recovery after you adb push the rom, you should see it in the folder you pushed it to on the sdcard.
If you arent familiar with how to use adb from the command line or the terminal this might not make alot of sense and i dont know how better to explain it than that. Also yes windows 7 vs windows vista does make a difference there are issues with novacom installing properly, that's why you would have problems running acmeuninstaller or acmeinstaller2. if you look around you should find some videos or how to's that can probably explain it better. Hope this helps.
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Novacom_with_Windows_7
http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/295881-webos-doctor-12-issue-fixed-5.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244 is the thread I was talking about - it allows you to access the hard root of the device, repartition it, and start again from scratch. It is what I was suggesting last night, from my tablet when I didn't have the link handy.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244 is the thread I was talking about - it allows you to access the hard root of the device, repartition it, and start again from scratch. It is what I was suggesting last night, from my tablet when I didn't have the link handy.
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Probably the best suggestion yet given that everything else has been tried.
Good luck.
****EDIT****
Before you attempt the step above I have just noticed a difference between between cwm and. TWRP2.2 which I have installed on my Touchpad via goo manager. If I open recovery via goo manager and then select wipe it gives me 4 options cache, davlik, factory reset AND system which i think says will remove your rom . I don't see the forth option available with the regular cwm/clockwork. Just a thought.
All the best with whatever you try next.
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Probably the best suggestion yet given that everything else has been tried.
Good luck.
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this would work, however you have to fix you novacom/novaterm issues on your windows machine before you'll be able to do any of this. the reason acmeuninstaller, acmeinstaller2 arent working is likely because youre on a windows7 64bit box and Palm-sdk, the novacomd.exe, noverm.exe, and javaruntime apps and drivers arent setup right. just make sure you have the proper javaupdates on your computer then you can install preware in webos, preware has some nice tools that will delete the entire android install partitions, one is called 'remove android' and the other is called 'tailor' you run them from within webos. after you do that then in webos you should do a full device reset. you'll find it in the "info" tab under settings in webos. this will delete and reformat the whole /media ,(aka sdcard) partition. so you will lose all the files you have stored on both webos and android. that format will take a long time probably like 30 min or more. after thats done. reboot the hp and run webosdoctor. now i know for sure this will work because ive done it on mine. remember to put the touchpad in developer mode in webos first to install preware. you can do that by typing webos20090606 into the webos search bar and hitting enter. I'll put links from my box.com accou t to everything you need.
https://www.box.com/s/479acdb6ef9c99fc7b92
https://www.box.com/s/1aed4722990aad251570
edit: also I'm not sure if youre on the 16gig 32gig or 64gig pad, the webosdoctor that i linked is for 32gig wifi only US version. if thats not what you have then youll need to get the doctor for for specific touchpad. or you could create a webosmetadoctor but thats a whole nother project.
i have the 32gb version. i assume US and Canadian aren't gonna make a difference
i've tried all those threads. any novacom/novaterm stuff doesn't work, the files won't delete so when trying to recreate they just error saying it already exists.
if the devices is on in androind the adb can find the device although the "Serial" has a bunch of ???? at the end of it. when i go to cwm adb cannot find the device.
in cwm i can mount and add files that way and go back to install zip sdcard but get:
Code:
--Installing /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
E: Can't open /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted
used "remove android" in webos, but then nothing is different after the fact as usual. 'tailor' doesn't seem to exist anymore in preware at least that i can find
not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point
plasticsoldier said:
i have the 32gb version. i assume US and Canadian aren't gonna make a difference
i've tried all those threads. any novacom/novaterm stuff doesn't work, the files won't delete so when trying to recreate they just error saying it already exists.
if the devices is on in androind the adb can find the device although the "Serial" has a bunch of ???? at the end of it. when i go to cwm adb cannot find the device.
in cwm i can mount and add files that way and go back to install zip sdcard but get:
Code:
--Installing /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
E: Can't open /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted
used "remove android" in webos, but then nothing is different after the fact as usual. 'tailor' doesn't seem to exist anymore in preware at least that i can find
not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point
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ok no one will be able to help you fix this issue unless you give complete details of the problems. when you say " novacom/novaterm stuff doesn't work" we cant really help specific error details is what i need. I dont mind helping you fix this but you have to be a little more specific on exactly what,where, and how youre installing and running and mounting apps and directories.
your problem IS fixable but you need to slow down and really do things exactly step by step.
Ok so back to ./adb. now when you boot in to CWM recovery on he touchpad DONT do anything in CWM just plug it into the computer. do not mount it as a usb storage and dont mount or unmount the sd partition LEAVE IT.
you can then use ./adb from the command line or terminal on the computer to move the files to the touchpad' or install apk's uninstall apk's you name it. This will require that you know some linux terminal commands. for example to move a new rom zip to the internal sd card or into any other folder you can use ./adb push command to run a root shell on the android device itself you can use ./adb shell and then change folder and file properties from readonly to rw. this can all be done while the touchpad is patiently waitng in CWM recovery. this way when youre done installing or uninstalling apps from the device and moving flash zips to it, you can disconnect the .adb connection with ./adb disconnect or just type exit from the terminal till it closes. unplug it then you will be able to pick up the touchpad and install zip from the sdcard, keep in mind you dont want to choose 'apply u[date from sdcard' you want to use the 'install zip from sdcard option' you can read up more on how adb works. it is probally the most important part of hacking android.
with that being said. novaterm is the palm webos version of .adb. this is why when you boot into webos recovery to do things like acmeinstaller and acmeuninstaller2 the novaterm novacom and novacomd apps have to be installed correctly on the computer or else you wont be going anywhere fast. some screenshot examples of how it should appear below.
https://www.box.com/s/432e63a83215f00eea6a
https://www.box.com/s/970bc29542a05f98f036
https://www.box.com/s/63c0f656e8354f7f2d6a
https://www.box.com/s/cbe3266467ae8e3ebabe
https://www.box.com/s/005e56a61a178dd17fa4 some better resolution images.
Plasticsoldier said
used "remove android" in webos, but then nothing is different after the fact as usual. 'tailor' doesn't seem to exist anymore in preware at least that i can find
not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point
Yes there is
Firstly tailor does exist, it is a beta and the facility to dl must be enabled.
Read this and scroll down to Enabling beta test feeds and follow the instructions , when you get as far as using the Linux command you CAN copy and paste thank God.
http://en.m.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds?wasRedirected=true . After that reboot into Webos and launch preware. Go into managed feeds as per the instructions in the link above and install Tailor. Reboot again and the app will work. It looks very good actually.
But before attempting to actually use Tailor please read the article I have posted below it is only 7 pages long but will explain how to use Taylor properly as it is a powerful tool.
http://forums.webosnation.com/webos...partition-filesystem-editor-beta-testing.html
I have done all of this , this morning so if you have any problems pm me or ask in this thread.
I sincerely hope that this helps, it should be the answer to your problems.
@haxin: sorry, wasn't trying to be unhelpful when everyone is being helpful to me. I shall be more detailed in future responses. I think i was getting frustrated and had had a busy exhausting day so it didn't help me come across clearly/properly.
OK, so I had preware installed already, so I removed it, went into developer mode, used the linux commands, reinstalled preware, added Tailor.
(i've done this a few times, because I didn't remove the cable after doing the linux commands for preware, then i accidentally hit the wrong buttons and it connected to 'usb drive' mode and wouldn't connect on the pc side and got stuck on the "ow disconnected me properly next time" screen).
So it gives me the following options
USB (media)
Android (system)
Android (cache)
Android (data)
Unused Space
the 'usb media' starts mounted and will mount again if unmounted. If I use 'check filesystem' it'll pass. So then I try 'delete partition' which pretends to delete, then it takes me to the unused partition which is still at 16mb. so i try to use "check filesystem' again and it fails. try repair and it fails as well
I've tried mounting the android parts just to see, they just sit there processing that they are trying to mount. trying to delete or anything else fails as well.
and now after trying things, any of the 'cards' will try to open and just sit there grey. and with my usb cable not plugged in it still is giving me the option to enter usb drive mode. and with this i have to restart and go through the steps again of adding Tailor which is getting tedious.
I restarted, went through the motions to get back to Tailor. trying out resizing just to see how that goes. So far 15%. not sure what will happen when done, but we will see.
This is getting long, so i'll end this part and update on anything and also try to familiarize myself with adb a tad more
Solved - Follow this - http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/318426-how-install-android-without-setting-up-webos.html
Here is a series of steps that lead me to this problem.
1) I wanted to give my touchpad to a friend of mine. So I removed the dual boot. I also booted to WebOs and did a factory reset. The touch-pad is now in pristine state. So far so good. No problems.
2) My friend takes the touchpad from me but never goes thru the setup. He then looses it !!
3) Once I came to know about it, I went online and initiated a remote wipe. I don't know why I did that since it was already clean (from step 1 above). I think this action of mine created a problem.
4) My friend finds the Touchpad. It was in his home all along. So I charged it and then boot into WebOs.
5) This is where the problem starts. The initial webOs setup requires that I set up a new account with HP ( or use an existing one). First, I tried to use my existing account (the same that I used in step 3). It won't log in saying that there is a login error, try again or contact HP support. The password is correct, since I am using the same password on the HP website and I can see my device there.
6) I then tried to create a new account using a different email. To my surprise, that failed too. I tried a few other emails, all with same results. The new account creation was failing in all these cases.
7) Now I am stuck. I have emailed HP for support but I was hoping someone else had any other ideas. I am out of warranty. So email support is the only thing that I can get from HP.
8) Is there is a way I can install Android on it without launching webOs - Can I create a cmInstall folder from WebOs recovery ? ANy Novacom driver option to access the file system ? The only way to get the cminstall folder (that I know of) is to boot into webOs and I cannot do that.
I have tried a few other things that came to my mind.
1) I used WebOs Doctor to do a clean install. It still did not help. The log-in still fails.
2) I removed the device from my old account thinking that it might be the reason my new account creation is failing. But that did not help.
Any suggestion or links that might help me would be really appreciated.
[email protected] said:
Here is a series of steps that lead me to this problem.
1) I wanted to give my touchpad to a friend of mine. So I removed the dual boot. I also booted to WebOs and did a factory reset. The touch-pad is now in pristine state. So far so good. No problems.
2) My friend takes the touchpad from me but never goes thru the setup. He then looses it !!
3) Once I came to know about it, I went online and initiated a remote wipe. I don't know why I did that since it was already clean (from step 1 above). I think this action of mine created a problem.
4) My friend finds the Touchpad. It was in his home all along. So I charged it and then boot into WebOs.
5) This is where the problem starts. The initial webOs setup requires that I set up a new account with HP ( or use an existing one). First, I tried to use my existing account (the same that I used in step 3). It won't log in saying that there is a login error, try again or contact HP support. The password is correct, since I am using the same password on the HP website and I can see my device there.
6) I then tried to create a new account using a different email. To my surprise, that failed too. I tried a few other emails, all with same results. The new account creation was failing in all these cases.
7) Now I am stuck. I have emailed HP for support but I was hoping someone else had any other ideas. I am out of warranty. So email support is the only thing that I can get from HP.
8) Is there is a way I can install Android on it without launching webOs - Can I create a cmInstall folder from WebOs recovery ? ANy Novacom driver option to access the file system ? The only way to get the cminstall folder (that I know of) is to boot into webOs and I cannot do that.
I have tried a few other things that came to my mind.
1) I used WebOs Doctor to do a clean install. It still did not help. The log-in still fails.
2) I removed the device from my old account thinking that it might be the reason my new account creation is failing. But that did not help.
Any suggestion or links that might help me would be really appreciated.
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When you tried to doctor, did you go back to 3.0.0? If you didn't, here's a good guide :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244
You have to go back to 3.0.0 because it's the only one who can handle partitions. After you successfully do 3.0.0, you can update to 3.0.5 OTA. Then install android the usual way.
Read the whole thing. Around page 12 there's a good work around if you're having trouble with novaterm.
Good luck.
chicle_11 said:
When you tried to doctor, did you go back to 3.0.0? If you didn't, here's a good guide :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244
You have to go back to 3.0.0 because it's the only one who can handle partitions. After you successfully do 3.0.0, you can update to 3.0.5 OTA. Then install android the usual way.
Read the whole thing. Around page 12 there's a good work around if you're having trouble with novaterm.
Good luck.
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Yes I did doctor to 3.0.0. The problem is not that I am unable to install WebOs. The problem is that when the setup screen comes and I provide the user-id/password, it doesn't take it. It seems like my Serial Number is somehow blocked by HP since I did a remote erase. Or maybe the remote erase and the initial setup are getting deadlocked - neither the remote erase can complete since its waiting for login to happen - and the login cannot complete since it thinks erase is in progress.
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Yes I did doctor to 3.0.0. The problem is not that I am unable to install WebOs. The problem is that when the setup screen comes and I provide the user-id/password, it doesn't take it. It seems like my Serial Number is somehow blocked by HP since I did a remote erase. Or maybe the remote erase and the initial setup are getting deadlocked - neither the remote erase can complete since its waiting for login to happen - and the login cannot complete since it thinks erase is in progress.
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Then I think only HP support can help. They have to unblock your serial number / account so you can have access.
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Then I think only HP support can help. They have to unblock your serial number / account so you can have access.
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But I was hoping that even though I cannot log in, I can at least install Android. But to do that, I need to be able to create a cminstall folder and I cannot do that unless I can see the touch-pad file system from my PC. I was hoping that there is a way to do that without logging into WebOs. Meanwhile I am still waiting for HP to respond back to my email !!
Possible solution to this problem - bypass activation
http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-to...ources/317164-activation-bypass-touchpad.html
I haven't tried it but this gives me hope. I might be able to bypass activation after all !!
How to Install Android without setting up webOS
Seems like someone had the exact same problem that I had. Thanks Google.
http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/318426-how-install-android-without-setting-up-webos.html
Greetings, developers and friends!
My Touchpad is now stuck in a continuous boot, with Android backed up in Clockworkmod but I tried restoring and didn't work. A couple of days ago I deleted info on my SD card because it was too bogged down and didn't let me update anything. I did my best but I decided to do this,so I own it. Attempted to flash with Roland's video instructions and got all my files in order: Problem is, on the command prompt I get a message of "Device Not Recognized.
Here's what I see when booting:
Moboot 0. 3. 8
HP logo
boot ClockworkMod
boot Cyanogenmod
boot WebOS
boot webOS Recovery
reboot
shutdown
Then the screen goes light dark, as if the animation of CyanogenMod is going to be up and running but it doesn't. Is there a remedy to fix the SD card problem, maybe that will take care of it and my laptop can see the TouchPad? Backup works fine on ClockworkMod, restore does too but nothing happens.
Any takers? I have another HP tablet that I will not mess with, but I'd rather have both running Android.
Thanks,
chicawhyte
chicawhyte said:
Greetings, developers and friends!
My Touchpad is now stuck in a continuous boot, with Android backed up in Clockworkmod but I tried restoring and didn't work. A couple of days ago I deleted info on my SD card because it was too bogged down and didn't let me update anything. I did my best but I decided to do this,so I own it. Attempted to flash with Roland's video instructions and got all my files in order: Problem is, on the command prompt I get a message of "Device Not Recognized.
Here's what I see when booting:
Moboot 0. 3. 8
HP logo
boot ClockworkMod
boot Cyanogenmod
boot WebOS
boot webOS Recovery
reboot
shutdown
Then the screen goes light dark, as if the animation of CyanogenMod is going to be up and running but it doesn't. Is there a remedy to fix the SD card problem, maybe that will take care of it and my laptop can see the TouchPad? Backup works fine on ClockworkMod, restore does too but nothing happens.
Any takers? I have another HP tablet that I will not mess with, but I'd rather have both running Android.
Thanks,
chicawhyte
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UPDATE: Was able to get through the Android removal, but it bothers me that one of the scrolling messages says, "no cminstall dir found, nothing to install.
chicawhyte said:
UPDATE: Was able to get through the Android removal, but it bothers me that one of the scrolling messages says, "no cminstall dir found, nothing to install.
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TouchPad toolbox will solve it.
Moody66 said:
TouchPad toolbox will solve it.
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Where is the Toolbox? Looked in Preware, Just Type and everywhere else and I can't find it. Thanks.
Found it on another thread, printed it out. Will take care of this after work. Thanks.
chicawhyte
chicawhyte said:
Found it on another thread, printed it out. Will take care of this after work. Thanks.
chicawhyte
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It didn't work....aborted.... :crying:
It didn't, it aborted. I tried Roland's way and attempted to flash it but still the message is the same, no cminstall dir, power off when ready. Let me see if I can get a hold of him or JC (it'd be incredibly lucky for me) I hope my tablet can get the Android back.
Roland asked me about this, this is my reply. Feel free to help out.
chicawhyte said:
It didn't, it aborted. I tried Roland's way and attempted to flash it but still the message is the same, no cminstall dir, power off when ready. Let me see if I can get a hold of him or JC (it'd be incredibly lucky for me) I hope my tablet can get the Android back.
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+Roland Deschain Ok Roland, what I have tried was to gain more memory on my tablet; there were several apps deleted, cached space, did all I could because I had an update via Goo.im. I tried to flash it but I was not successful; asides from that, there were automatic updates that the Touchpad did not allow due to low storage space.That is when I made the serious mistake of deleting the SD card.
I tried to uninstall according to your instructions and then load up the 5M to go back to full throttle, but for whatever reason when the scroll happened the messages were off-key, meaning that folders and files were not installed and not the usual way. That's when I realized there was trouble; I had made two Nandroid backups that are still in the Touchpad. I had only WebOS and no Android to be seen. I restored the most recent backup via ROM Manager and I thought that that would do the trick, still no Android (?).
I decided to try and reach out to my fellows at XDA-Developers because I try everything before I go to the forum; I know the rules there. That's when I was made aware of the Toolbox by JC Sullins and I downloaded it. Followed the instructions hoping to install Android that way but it didn't go past 3 seconds of Step 1. That's when I get the message(s) that there's nothing to install and cuts off.
I am aware of a way to format the SD card (if that is the problem) but for that stuff I need specific instructions, like here, to do so. I have another TouchPad 32 GB that I performed a double-boot as you instructed us to do; what I need is some specific cause(s) and what to do because the idea of wiping everything including WebOS, using WebOS Doctor to reinstall it and then Android does not appeal to me. I want to get to the bottom of it, I like to figure this stuff out and do it myself
Thanks for your work and for helping us turn a good tablet into the best tablet around!
Greetings,
Please read below my message to Roland and my problem below/wanted to add that now on both computers (my laptop where I do the flashes) and my husband's where I copied the Palm, Inc. folder to attempt Android there-the message I get is that "there is no hardware found" on the command prompt.
Please try to follow the instructions and explain things when requested
chicawhyte said:
Hello Roland, help!!!!! Please read this thread and let me know if I have to wipe everything and restart from scratch with WebOS Doctor. Here's the thread from xda-developers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-...r-boot-loops-deleted-sd-t2803190/post53886856. Runs WebOS fine, but no Android to be seen; files are there but it won't let me format the whole tablet. Thanks!
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RolandDeschain79 said:
"Hey so I took a look but that just tells me you're confused and trying to follow multiple sets of instructions. Can you list what you've tried and where you get stuck. There's no cminstall folder in this set of instructions its a ttinstall folder. Did you complete the first steps of uninstalling android and wiping the USB drive?"
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chicawhyte said:
+Roland Deschain Ok Roland, what I have tried was to gain more memory on my tablet; there were several apps deleted, cached space, did all I could because I had an update via Goo.im. I tried to flash it but I was not successful; asides from that, there were automatic updates that the Touchpad did not allow due to low storage space.That is when I made the serious mistake of deleting the SD card.
I tried to uninstall according to your instructions and then load up the 5M to go back to full throttle, but for whatever reason when the scroll happened the messages were off-key, meaning that folders and files were not installed and not the usual way. That's when I realized there was trouble; I had made two Nandroid backups that are still in the Touchpad. I had only WebOS and no Android to be seen. I restored the most recent backup via ROM Manager and I thought that that would do the trick, still no Android (?).
I decided to try and reach out to my fellows at XDA-Developers because I try everything before I go to the forum; I know the rules there. That's when I was made aware of the Toolbox by JC Sullins and I downloaded it. Followed the instructions hoping to install Android that way but it didn't go past 3 seconds of Step 1. That's when I get the message(s) that there's nothing to install and cuts off.
I am aware of a way to format the SD card (if that is the problem) but for that stuff I need specific instructions, like here, to do so. I have another TouchPad 32 GB that I performed a double-boot as you instructed us to do; what I need is some specific cause(s) and what to do because the idea of wiping everything including WebOS, using WebOS Doctor to reinstall it and then Android does not appeal to me. I want to get to the bottom of it, I like to figure this stuff out and do it myself
Thanks for your work and for helping us turn a good tablet into the best tablet around!
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Please try and limit your conversation to one location. People who spam my YouTube channel and the forum with the same questions tend to get permanently banned without warning. Consider this a warning.
chicawhyte said:
......That is when I made the serious mistake of deleting the SD card.
.......I am aware of a way to format the SD card (if that is the problem) but for that stuff I need specific instructions, like here, to do so. I have another TouchPad 32 GB that I performed a double-boot as you instructed us to do; what I need is some specific cause(s) and what to do because the idea of wiping everything including WebOS, using WebOS Doctor to reinstall it and then Android does not appeal to me. I want to get to the bottom of it, I like to figure this stuff out and do it myself
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Secondly if I ask you a question try to answer it as completely as possible. Don't tell me you made a mistake by wiping the SDcard then refuse to tell me how you did this even after I asked specifically about it. Claiming that you know how to wipe the SDcard then asking for specific instructions how to do so doesn't give me confidence in your ability. If you wiped the SDcard from a windows PC then you've made your own problem and completely ignored all the available instructions.
chicawhyte said:
. Followed the instructions hoping to install Android that way but it didn't go past 3 seconds of Step 1. That's when I get the message(s) that there's nothing to install and cuts off.
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I'm having a very hard time understanding why you say you're stuck on step 1, which is installing novacom and backing up your data, when you're talking about step 5 installing android???
Step by step instructions have been provided and I even made a long video that reads you all the info. No one can help you to follow instructions that's up to you. Saying you didn't want to follow the instructions then asking for help is just silly. If you do not wish to change the layout of your touchpad just stick to the Non data media roms.
New Super Easy Way Guide and video available
[ROM GUIDE]How to use the TouchPad Toolbox to install Android "The Super Easy Way"(DM & Non-DM)