[Q] 4.3 or 4.1.2? - Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What software for my xperia is better????
4.3 or 4.1.2

MixoMaxoViper said:
What software for my xperia is better????
4.3 or 4.1.2
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4.3 has the best performance for my phone :laugh:

I must admit that i'm finding 4.3 a little sluggish in comparison to 4.1.2.
I also think that there's less display options to play around with. I can't find a way of removing all lock-screen widgets. The one for the camera still appears even when disabled.
I'm also not keen on all the settings menus now being white as its very garish, but thats just a personal thing, and i'm sure I could get a theme to sort that out.
Not seeing any change in battery life, but thats not a bad thing.
I'm also finding that my internet browser crasher more now too.

4.3 is too damn slow
Don't go for the 4.3 update. wait a little time maybe sony will start to iron out the bugs because as of now it is unusable.
I recommend you stay on 4.1 a little longer ... maybe go straight to 4.4.

Forgot to add, the keyboard has been improved and once you get used to the change in predictive text it can be a lot quicker.
Must admit I am toying with the idea of going back to 4.1.

i am using existenz 4.3 rom, its like a butter... :good:

I have 4.3 and I am happy with this update. My phone is way faster, the apps are running and starting a bit smoother so no problems there.
The reported bugs; I HAVENT HAD ANY ONE ENCOUNTERD YET!
Yes the only one I can get is not working Bravia Engine2 but other than that is the update good.
If you are not sure what to do you can always come back to 4.1.2 if you want.
The link about flashing with flashtool can be found in my signature

Quick question though
Does the official backup and restore app works across android versions?
If I have backups from v. 4.1, would they will work in v. 4.3?
Thanks

if u a heavy user and prever stock rom, go for 4.3. in stock 4.1, memory management is main problem 4 me (CM/cm based rom is good memory management, but iam prever sony stock rom). im sure, if u not heavy user, u wont buy xsp . the only issues iam faced till now something my xsp out of memory like this, no solution except reboot (sorry 4 my bad english)

@warok88
I have this problem too,but few days ago i find solution and fix without root!
I like 4.3!

Miui , android 4.2.2 - old, but best if u dont playing 3d games

I´m using 4.3 with DooMKenel and I don´t have problems with ram or freezes, and you can use roms like cyagenonmod for android 4.4.2 or eXistenZ Ultra if you want a rom based on stock firmware

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Flashing 4.2.2 over 4.3

Hi guys,
I just want to ask if it is possible to flash any 4.2.2 Rom over a 4.3 one without changing the Bootloader or Modem (as far as I know kernel there are no other things updated in 4.3 except some features in stock Rom and kernel). I'm sorry if there is a thread like this one out there but I couldn't find it on my phone app
Thanks in advance for your time and help
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Now why would you do that? It's like installing windows ME over Windows 7
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It's because I like to have all the possibilities to personalise nz phone, and Roms like MIUI won't get 4.3 support in the next time it's just my opinion
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4.3's stock kernel sucks hard. I've experienced "unexpectedly closed" errors with certain apps and the device sometimes reboots itself without apparent reason. Had to flash the latest franco's nightly kernel in order to get this faulty release somewhat stable.
Nice GoinGoogle.
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It is possible with custom recovery, not possible with fastboot without updating the bootloader. You may use any modem. You need 4.3 kernel.
EDIT: my bad, it was other way around. Yes, it is possible.
4.3 stinks like hot garbage. I'm not upgrading, and I'm going to downgrade my new N7 to 4.2.2 if possible. 4.3 is like windows ME.
I still have 4.2.2 on my N4 and have only tried 4.3 on my Kindle Fire. From my experience I have little interest in upgrading my N4 for the time being, since 4.3.x will likely fix all the JSS and JWR issues.
Fatherboard said:
4.3's stock kernel sucks hard. I've experienced "unexpectedly closed" errors with certain apps and the device sometimes reboots itself without apparent reason. Had to flash the latest franco's nightly kernel in order to get this faulty release somewhat stable.
Nice GoinGoogle.
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I think your problem is caused by your usage pattern / apps which are not updated for 4.3, combined with unstable root. Don't blame Google unless you experience the same behaviour on unrooted stock.
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Wrong.
I experienced those crashes while on stock, even with google applications. that's a faulty release, not faulty device nor usage. for god sake, even "settings" menu has "unexpectedly closed" on me once.
Misledz said:
Now why would you do that? It's like installing windows ME over Windows 7
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I think it'd be more like going back to Windows 7 Sp1 from Windows 8
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I have had totally different experience with 4.2.2. To be honest I didn't like it at all. I didn't find it as "rock solid" as many other users here. (I came from Galaxy Nexus. Android 4.2 compared to really rock solid jzo54k 4.1.2 was imo buggy as hell. It didn't bring any performance boost but rather did the opposite: BT, WIFI issues, mem leak etc.) Plus I found this low touch sensitivity extremaly irritating. I use rooted stock 4.3 and so far I haven't noticed any bigger issues. Even if I do I really don't see a point to go back to still buggy 4.2.2. I think my device performs much better on 4.3. Maybe it's just a placebo effect, but it feels snappier and smoother. Just my subjective opinion.
Of course I do understand people that miss their favorite custom roms, whose 4.3-versions are still unavailable.
4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
Fatherboard said:
4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
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Maybe that's been your experience but my experience has been the exact opposite. It's made my N4 even more of a pleasure to use. It's smoother, snappier, and battery life is amazing. Mind you, I've never really had any problems with 4.2.2 except maybe GPS locking problems, which 4.3 solved. The only real problem with 4.3 is this whole JWR/JSS nonsense.
Fatherboard said:
4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
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Not sure what's going on your end but my phone has been rock solid with no FCs at all since upgrading to 4.3 using the factory image (I never go the OTA route)
In case you're both running a stock 4.3 (unrooted), you're more than welcomed to run "angry gran run - running game" by ace viral and watch it boldly & proudly crash. If not on beginning, after few minutes. Just only one example out of many.
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Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
DeepPurple15X said:
Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
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You can flash a 4.3 rom in recovery, but its recommended to flash radio and bootloader in recovery.
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DeepPurple15X said:
Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
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Android 4.3 ROMs require radio version .84 (or a hybrid 27/84 or 33/84 radio) and bootloader version makoz20i. As Thibaultvw points out radio version .84 and bootloader version makoz20i are both available as flashable zip files and should both be installed before installing a 4.3 based ROM. In addition, Android 4.3 requires SuperSU version 1.51 for working root privileges.
After upgrading the radio and bootloader for Android 4.3, you can restore or install an Android 4.2.2 ROM without changing the bootloader or radio.
frajobs said:
Hi guys,
I just want to ask if it is possible to flash any 4.2.2 Rom over a 4.3 one without changing the Bootloader or Modem (as far as I know kernel there are no other things updated in 4.3 except some features in stock Rom and kernel). I'm sorry if there is a thread like this one out there but I couldn't find it on my phone app
Thanks in advance for your time and help
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Give it a hard go bud lemme know how it works!

Stock original Firmware

hi boys i have the sony xperia z c6603 from greece.
i want to make some questions...
if anyone knows...which is the release firmware for xperia z?its the 4.1.2?
i have update before 2 days to 4.2.2 but i think is slower now....and battery drain faster...
so i want to install the stock release firmware....
thanks
ex...send me please the list of stock firmwares
i want the first release firmware....
DMXSTORM said:
hi boys i have the sony xperia z c6603 from greece.
i want to make some questions...
if anyone knows...which is the release firmware for xperia z?its the 4.1.2?
i have update before 2 days to 4.2.2 but i think is slower now....and battery drain faster...
so i want to install the stock release firmware....
thanks
ex...send me please the list of stock firmwares
i want the first release firmware....
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Why do You wanna do that? Moving back to 4.1.2 and risking Sudden Death Syndrome with initial version of firmware is not recommended at all.
You had OTA update. You don't need to dowgrade your software. Download Sony Update Service and reflash your phone with latest available 4.2.2 for Your region.
Or, if You are more advanced user, download latest FTF and flash it yourself. But, I recommend Sony Update Service.
NOTE: Backup everything before flashing. That is a must.
the reason is going slower the device and battery drain faster.
its not way to do that?
to go back to 4.1.2?
DMXSTORM said:
the reason is going slower the device and battery drain faster.
its not way to do that?
to go back to 4.1.2?
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No, it is a reason to flash clean version of the firmware a.k.a. factory reset with newest firmware.
I have latest firmware, and battery have little better autonomy, but UI is faster, more responsive and lag-free. Try this first.
Again, do the backup before. Contacts, SMS, photos... But not system settings and any stuff like that. You will adjust it again after flashing.
We have already fixed 4.2.2 update i guess you are on ..423 frimware
If yes and you feel the phone slow. Then flash latest firmware. 244
This is Central Europe customization
Unbranded, no bloatware just few apps like officesuite mcae fee.. They can be uninstalled
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44137659
Odoslané z C6603 cez Tapatalk 2
Maybe he doesn't know how to use Flashtool.
i ask if i can go back to 4.1.2 not flash 4.2.2
i know how to use flashtool dude.
its safe to do that?
its anyone here to know this phone release stock firmware?its 4.1.2?or older?
i am on 4.2.2 firmware.
Again, You have to do factory restore. Do it with latest 4.2.2. Try it. If it's still defective as you say it is, You must RMA it.
4.1.2 is not better than 4.2.2. I don't believe that You are the only person in this forum who's phone suffers from 4.2.2 upgrade.
Do the factory clean install of newest firmware. If it is not good still, Your phone is no good.
its ok i do this....!!!!!
why you say the phone is not good?
i make factory reset now...
It may be defective in some way. Latest 4.2.2 have to work on Xperia Z like buttery smooth. Especially after factory reset.

Stock 4.1 vs Stock 4.3

im on .207 and im thinking go back to 4.1 .254
which is better?
i have a long time on 4.3 since .201 and i dont remember 4.1 perfomanence.
thanks
Do it!
I've used every stock 4.3 rom. Was very excited when it launched.207 is the best 4.3 rom,but for me after a while it starts to get slow,launcher redraws and everything and i decide to go back to .254. It was a GREAT decision,performance and ram management is far better than on 4.3,phone is much more snappier,and i like the interface design better than on 4.3.The only thing to me that's better on 4.3 it's x loud. Its louder than on 4.1 but not by a much.
I have 4.3 207 and its ultra slow when i open wifi, fb and messenger are ultra slow , and lags and phone hangs alot , rrally neef help, the phone is ltle smooth offline
Gamer4Life said:
I have 4.3 207 and its ultra slow when i open wifi, fb and messenger are ultra slow , and lags and phone hangs alot , rrally neef help, the phone is ltle smooth offline
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Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...-sony-original-pure-stock-rom-12-1-1-t2859279, or for a more complete rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-sp/development/rom-trueancestor-sp-lite-edition-v3-t2921869 with Minimizeer pack and the rom will be very fluid.
Silver Wx said:
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...-sony-original-pure-stock-rom-12-1-1-t2859279, or for a more complete rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-sp/development/rom-trueancestor-sp-lite-edition-v3-t2921869 with Minimizeer pack and the rom will be very fluid.
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thanks my friend for your reply, i decide to install slimkat, but i read that you must have sd card bcuz it uses it as internal, the problem is i just have 1gb card, i use it only for music, can i use the slimcat without sd card insertedd ?
Gamer4Life said:
thanks my friend for your reply, i decide to install slimkat, but i read that you must have sd card bcuz it uses it as internal, the problem is i just have 1gb card, i use it only for music, can i use the slimcat without sd card insertedd ?
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Do a nandroid backup, try slimkat and see
If last slimkat avoid access to sdcard, try slimkat 8.8.
If there is any problem, you can restore your nandroid backup...
So for no problem, you can save nandroid backup on pc
Stock 4.3
From my experience I can say the following...
In regards to 4.1.2 (stock):
+ Virtually bug free.
+ Smooth performance (good free RAM).
+ Exceptional battery life.
- Poor Wi-Fi range (only bug I found).
- Okay camera.
In regards to 4.3 (stock):
+ Great camera.
+ Smooth performance.
+ Receives media app updates (not sure about 4.1.2).
- Poor RAM managment.
- Uninstalling app graphic glitch/lag (can be fixed with replacement packageinstaller.apk)
So I personally would stick to 4.3 (I fixed the package installer) and am a light user so RAM doesn't bug me too much, the Wi-Fi issue on 4.1.2 was the only issue but killed it for me, otherwise 4.1.2 would've been perfect.
ShinOrochiX said:
From my experience I can say the following...
In regards to 4.1.2 (stock):
+ Virtually bug free.
+ Smooth performance (good free RAM).
+ Exceptional battery life.
- Poor Wi-Fi range (only bug I found).
- Okay camera.
In regards to 4.3 (stock):
+ Great camera.
+ Smooth performance.
+ Receives media app updates (not sure about 4.1.2).
- Poor RAM managment.
- Uninstalling app graphic glitch/lag (can be fixed with replacement packageinstaller.apk)
So I personally would stick to 4.3 (I fixed the package installer) and am a light user so RAM doesn't bug me too much, the Wi-Fi issue on 4.1.2 was the only issue but killed it for me, otherwise 4.1.2 would've been perfect.
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Thanks.
i downgrade to .254 and i dont like it its so ugly and poor wifi but great perfomanence and great battery life
now i install ExistenZ 4.0 and its the best rom for Xperia SP, No Lags, No Bugs, Great Battery Life
i recommend to you install ExistenZ 4.0 i have Locked Bootloader, BEST rom for Xperia SP
kmiloxdxd said:
Thanks.
i downgrade to .254 and i dont like it its so ugly and poor wifi but great perfomanence and great battery life
now i install ExistenZ 4.0 and its the best rom for Xperia SP, No Lags, No Bugs, Great Battery Life
i recommend to you install ExistenZ 4.0 i have Locked Bootloader, BEST rom for Xperia SP
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Yeah, that ROM is very popular and for a good reason-yet to try it though, I will wait till I am bored to death with stock ROM. Relating to the op, I don't like the feeling of being on an older android version when a newer version is available, hence another reason I'm on 4.3.
I also see you'll be selling your SP (sig), may I ask why?
After countless flashes I've decided there is no better firmware/rom available than the Stock 4.1.2 (.254) for this phone.
I don't care which android version it runs as long as it runs smooth and fast.

[Q] Super Laggy Xperia SP

Hello everyone,
I bought a used Xperia SP but it is very laggy.I tried both stock 4.1 and 4.3 but it's very slow for a phone with these specs.My Xperia T with worse CPU and of course much worse GPU runs butter smooth but the Xperia SP is slow.It's hardware or software issue??
AlienTechGR said:
Hello everyone,
I bought a used Xperia SP but it is very laggy.I tried both stock 4.1 and 4.3 but it's very slow for a phone with these specs.My Xperia T with worse CPU and of course much worse GPU runs butter smooth but the Xperia SP is slow.It's hardware or software issue??
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You have many installed apps? And it has little memory or memory ram? If this is the problem, will have to root q, and if you have a class 10 card, move apps to the card, if it is a basic, just move the light apps that do not require a large perfomace I in here my xperia sp android 4.3, I have no problems of slowness.
I have helped and I deculpe by bad english
Cr*p Software
As you mentioned it is slow for it's specs, the hardware is still strong by today's standards and can easily run Jelly Bean, the problem is the software and what Sony have done with it. I also have slow performance on JB 4.3, I have removed much bloatware and installed greenify but still have poor performance (can barely multitask, opening 2 tabs in chrome will close Walkman whilst playing music ). The reason is mainly the kernel, the min-free (RAM) values are poorly tweaked hence we have low RAM and performance. Compared to 4.1.2 JB, 4.3 JB is a lot more resource heavier due to the added high end graphics support.
Hi there,
As you've mentioned above, I think there may be some software installed that are slowing down your phone. If you use the stock rom, you can try backing-up your SMS, contacts and apps(always remember to backup), then factory reset the phone('wipe') in settings-backup and restore.
Also you can unlock and root the phone for a better performance, but be cautious, for unlocking void warranties.
I don't have apps installed...but ok,Sony's stock ROM is ****...why CyanogenMod ROMs have many problems too??
You can try flash a ftf file with flashtool. It totally rewrite the system on your phone.
Unlock bl and try cm11.
1. Flash stock .207 with flash tool
2. Root it
3. install custom recovery cwm and then try some custom roms for locked bootloaders from android developement section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-sp/development
4.3 custom roms highly recommended for battery life
AlienTechGR said:
I don't have apps installed...but ok,Sony's stock ROM is ****...why CyanogenMod ROMs have many problems too??
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Yeah Sony's stock ROM for our phone is bad. CM11 (locked bootloader) is a million times better, no crazy battery drain, 400mb+ free RAM (will all my apps), very smooth. Its easy to install as well (no need to unlock your bootloader). Check this out.
Follow matsas's instructions as above but instead install CM11.

Need some suggestion.

Hello Xda
Recently i have got Xperia z1 and it's really amzing and fast for me but there are some few question and problems i cant find solution.
1. My current android version is 4.3 i was thinking for lolipop and after searching i have found that Lolipop is a pathetic release for Z1, so i want to know that should i stay on 4.3 or downgrade to 4.2.2 or can i upgrade to kitkat ?? is it stable or worth upgrading.
2. When i turn on or off O2 logo came on my screen and some o2 apps installed. Well in my country if there is any kind of logo in mobile firmware its value decrease peoples think its a fake so is there any chance or way to remove this ? I'm familiar with rooting and have done a lot of on Nexus, Xperia P, S, Galaxy 1-2 etc etc.
Thanks in advance.
bump! still no reply
for the z1 there is both kitkat and lollipop update. I'd say update it, i like the update. If you're not really sure then first find the ftf file of the 4.3 version in case you'll want to downgrade back
is lolipop stable ??? as i visited a lot of thread and peoples are complaining about battery drain heatup issue and some features not working like xLoud xReality etc etc
Ranker said:
is lolipop stable ??? as i visited a lot of thread and peoples are complaining about battery drain heatup issue and some features not working like xLoud xReality etc etc
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If you want better battery life and dont care about the new Lollipop I suggest you update to 4.4.4 and stick with it until some "major updates" solve the heating issue and battery drain and slow charging of the lollipop version cause its really annoying, at least for me because i'm using my phone almost 7,8 hours a day using 3G,wifi,music player,and calling and Lollipop simply doesnt work for me because I have to constantly put my phone on charge, I mean its ridiculous when my phone discharge faster than its charge!
But on kitkat its almost on peak of the performance (considering the battery life)
You may update to 5 if youre not heavily using the phone but otherwise at present,the best choice is 4.4.4 (btw I'm using iHackers 6.2 with trinity kernel)
For second part you may flash any unbranded ftf rom so there is no more carrier logo
SASREG said:
If you want better battery life and dont care about the new Lollipop I suggest you update to 4.4.4 and stick with it until some "major updates" solve the heating issue and battery drain and slow charging of the lollipop version cause its really annoying, at least for me because i'm using my phone almost 7,8 hours a day using 3G,wifi,music player,and calling and Lollipop simply doesnt work for me because I have to constantly put my phone on charge, I mean its ridiculous when my phone discharge faster than its charge!
But on kitkat its almost on peak of the performance (considering the battery life)
You may update to 5 if youre not heavily using the phone but otherwise at present,the best choice is 4.4.4 (btw I'm using iHackers 6.2 with trinity kernel)
For second part you may flash any unbranded ftf rom so there is no more carrier logo
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did you have those problems on stock unrooted lollipop from your country? cause i had battery drain only on prerooted while on stock "update with pc companion" the battery life was as kitkat for me
silentmax24 said:
did you have those problems on stock unrooted lollipop from your country? cause i had battery drain only on prerooted while on stock "update with pc companion" the battery life was as kitkat for me
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No I didn't try any prerooted rom just flashed stock ftf
Some guya suggest using phone for 2,3 days will improve battery life
I use it for 1 week even without root (pure stock) and no improve so far! So tail between legs I came back to KK!!
I can confirm that battery leak is only in "screen on"
Funny part is that stock LP use same battery as CM12 and for me there is no reason to choose stock over CM so I just got back to my previous combination!! using iHackers 6.2 alongside CM12 (Multirom)
Btw thanks fo reply bro

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