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Nexus 4 vs Galaxy s3

I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA

Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.

rault18 said:
I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA
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Great review. Wow, the nex 4 screen looks beautiful.
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Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.

TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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If it wasn't for the nex 4 I would have gotten either an gs3 or a note2. The GS3 is definitely a decent phone. Still for the money I think the nex wins.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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SO DAMN TRUE!!!
And you see people saying oh look how fast it is, and the previous device was a nokia with flashlight or an iphone
WTH! -_-

For my two pence worth I had the s3 went back to my gnex awaiting the n4. I love just stock. Also I agree with the comment above about going back to operator logos on handsets. Its hideous. I know why they do it but its horrid. As for the s3 it was very very fast and more than enough for most but after 4 months of use and adding all my stuff to the device it did slow a bit. Not a huge amount by any means but for hard core users it was there plus I couldn't live with the dismal redraw issue when coming out of apps yo the home screen . I know the Gnex is far from perfect but besides battery life I would have the Gnex as my every day phone anytime. So I decided to go for the n4 as my main phone for the next year as it should perform just the same but look better and have a bit more use with the bigger battery although I know tests don't show it being much better. A little would do me. Anyway awesome video and thank you for taking the time to do it
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manlisten said:
Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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+1 on this.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. For a user like myself in the states, the lack of LTE was the deciding factor for me between the GSIII and N4. I wouldn't call myself general population and I know what Android is, lol.
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Galaxy series is brilliant, but touchwiz is a piece of shyte next to stock android. Also there's no substitute for getting updates on time.

The Nex 4 looks nice, but not having a removable battery like my old EvoLTE and only having 16GB of storage without the ability to upgrade are killers for me. The GS3 development community is Legit as well. I only have 4GB left on my microSD and 3GB left on my onboard 16GB GS3. The battery and storage issues are a Fail IMHO for the Nex4. There is no way I could use it as my everyday camera, video recorder, offline music player, and document storage device. Also, when traveling out of town, you realize how much having extra batteries around makes things a whole lot easier, especially when you are using your phone as a GPS and listening to your offline music on flights (I did have the mobile battery juice device when I had the EvoLTE but it really didn't help).
I use Nova Launcher and HD Widgets so no need for TouchWiz. I will say the Sense and TouchWiz Calendar and Appointments look and function way better than the stock Android Calendar.
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Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google. It's nice to be able to call someone within a text conversation just by putting the phone to your face or to have the screen automatically stay on as long as you're looking at it. These are features that I actually consider highly useful in the real world. Flame away, but with today's processing power and Samsung's openness to bootloader unlocking and dev community, I actually consider pure Google to be a step backwards FOR ME.
Glad that you guys are starting to get your phones though. I canceled after I received the bo email.
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I got a SGH-I747 from Telus. Paid $0 for it.
It's "only" a dual core, but it has 2 gigs of RAM. And not a single logo on the front.
I'm running CM10 on it. With the 4.2 keyboard and camera/gallery. So maybe I don't know what Android is all about.
I might still get a N4 if Google ever allows me to buy one. But for now, I'm enjoying my S3 very much.

I can't wait for my n4 please please let it arrive this week!!
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I love my Nexus and exclusively buy Nexus brand phones ever since the Nexus S, but I wouldn't call the GS3 just a device for the general consumer. Its component sheet is very good and is still considered a high end phone several months after its release. It does have some good dev support (though Samsung could be a lot more helpful with getting more info about their processors out there) and considering many chose that device after the Galaxy Nexus failed to impress when it was finally announced. Personally I prefer stock Android but there are a couple features I wouldn't mind cherrypicking from the S3 like screenshots, tap to top, and not having the screen go to sleep when you're looking at it. Having sais that, the phone I chose is definately the right one for me and I belive it to be superior to the S3. Also it will be supported longer than the S3 from Google and the dev community.

manlisten said:
Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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That's exactly what I just thought.. Though I don't have the nexus 4 right now, I will never go back to a device with a ****ty logo on the front.
Sent from my SGS II

barondebxl said:
Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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Yeah, no. How is that Exynos 4 without any kind of documentation treating you?

powerwagon said:
That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google.
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i have played around with my friend's Note 2 for a whole day and i decided to install Nova to see if stock Android isn't worth it anymore. it turns out it is. Nova + Touchwiz was not as stable or fast (by that i mean touch responsiveness) as my Galaxy Nexus. i wanted to believe it since i am paying almost as much for the Nexus 4 and i really appreciate the Note 2's battery but i just wasn't convinced.

Hmmm... I've sold my SGS2 and waited for N4 but.... SOLD OUT...
This gave me more time to think about and I've realized that getting N4 was like step back to me.. Didn't want to end up like all iPhone users... Easy to break glass all around, very limited storage and non-removable battery.. I'm Not saying N4 is bad but it's Not perfect... (to me not even close to perfect...)
Android Support will be better for N4 and the Hardware is slightly better but I'm very happy with what I've got. It runs super smooth, using GO launcher, 2GB RAM makes a huge difference comparing to S3 tho.
To me GT-I9305 FTW
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[doubt] htc one and nexus 4

I was watching a video one nexus and m7.....both have almost same dimensions, leave alone the make quality (nexus is crap i know it )
what will be the difference between 1.5 ghz snapdragon s4 pro and 1.5 ghz snapdragon 600 regarding the performance? (pls dont post benchmarks)
i feel blink feed will be the first thing I'll be disabling before anything....(seriously )
pls advise me on technical things as I'm planning on upgrading from my stupid galaxy y.
ive seen reviews on camera and i think htc wont disappoint us......
lack of wireless charging will be another blow on HTCs side.
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snapdragon 600 claims a 40% increase in CPU performance, coming from S4 pro. Wireless charging is nothing great, you have to stupidly fix the phone on a particular position on the charging mat. And for your information, One has 1.7GHz
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The performance of the Nexus 4 is rather bad compared to other S4 Pro phones, as it suffers badly from thermal throttling - that is, the CPU heats up and the phone makes it run slower to stop it from getting any hotter. So the One should be a lot faster than the N4.
The gap between the One and one of the faster S4 Pro phones (like the Sony Xperia Z, which is very nippy) will be narrower, but it should still be faster for most things. (Possibly only barely faster for games, though).

Shasarak said:
The performance of the Nexus 4 is rather bad compared to other S4 Pro phones, as it suffers badly from thermal throttling - that is, the CPU heats up and the phone makes it run slower to stop it from getting any hotter. So the One should be a lot faster than the N4.
The gap between the One and one of the faster S4 Pro phones (like the Sony Xperia Z, which is very nippy) will be narrower, but it should still be faster for most things. (Possibly only barely faster for games, though).
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just take the n4!

HTC one. N4 throttles because of the glass back. Gets too hot then cold then bam your glass back is shattered.
Plus HTC one has better specs and features
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Thank you for your replies... Waiting for real time battery Stats.... I'll be going for it 90% if the battery stats are good.
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NiCk.JaY said:
Wireless charging is nothing great, you have to stupidly fix the phone on a particular position on the charging mat.
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Depends on the phone. I LOVED wireless charging on my Lumia 920. Position was no issue, and it always worked. it was fantastic.
The N4 sucked at it and I agree with your statement in regards to the N4.

I'm looking forward to the ONE.
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kishorsidu said:
I was watching a video one nexus and m7.....both have almost same dimensions, leave alone the make quality (nexus is crap i know it )
what will be the difference between 1.5 ghz snapdragon s4 pro and 1.5 ghz snapdragon 600 regarding the performance? (pls dont post benchmarks)
i feel blink feed will be the first thing I'll be disabling before anything....(seriously )
pls advise me on technical things as I'm planning on upgrading from my stupid galaxy y.
ive seen reviews on camera and i think htc wont disappoint us......
lack of wireless charging will be another blow on HTCs side.
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m7 will have more usable screen size due to not using onscreen soft keys (thankfully). Far better build quality. I have a suspicion the m7 won't feel faster (if not slower) than the N4 but that is due to software. It is hard to beat the speed of AOSP regardless of what specs you throw at it. Now that said, with some custom roms (especially if the m7 sees AOSP) the m7 will most definitely be faster. However I would be quite surprised if Sense 5 doesn't feel at least some "lag" Vs. an N4 stock vs stock just due to AOSP vs Sense.
I wouldn't even consider the N4 personally. There isn't really anything I liked about it (I had 2). I went back to my Lumia 920 over the N4. If it wasn't for the Note 2 I probably would have gone back to the GS3 waiting for the GS4/m7/etc.. coming soon. I could list all the things I didn't like about the N4 but that is not really what this is about and there is plenty of that information around .
Having owned all of these phones I fully intend to try the m7 next, regardless of what Samsung announces for the GS4. I like Samsung's products but I look forward to a phone that will look and feel a bit more elegant, something I would be very (happily) surprised if GS4 accomplishes.
As far as wireless charging goes, I seem to be one of the minority that care. I would have loved to see it, though it is definitely not a deal breaker and implementation is key. The N4 wireless charging was a horrible experience, but the Lumia 920 was awesome at it. I could toss it on the pad in any direction partially off the pad and it would still charge fine. I do miss that, but it is not at the top of my list. It's nice not having to deal with the micro usb plug at 1am and your trying to go to bed in the dark .

There is one reason why I'll probably be sticking to the N4 and that's HTC's policy of locking down phones. When I drop £500 on a phone I expect to be able to use it however I want to. They can take my warranty away if they want to but at least give me the choice.
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pnnorth said:
There is one reason why I'll probably be sticking to the N4 and that's HTC's policy of locking down phones. When I drop £500 on a phone I expect to be able to use it however I want to. They can take my warranty away if they want to but at least give me the choice.
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lol when you unlock your device through htcdev you can root, flash ROMs, flash custom kernels and everything. The only restriction is flashing kernel through the phone itself and downgrading hboot and radios... But why would you want that?

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lol when you unlock your device through htcdev you can root, flash ROMs, flash custom kernels and everything. The only restriction is flashing kernel through the phone itself and downgrading hboot and radios... But why would you want that?
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I'm well aware of what you can and can't do, I have a HOX as well. Having to use my PC to switch hboots when I want to change ROMs does my head in.
There is also the CID issue.
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pnnorth said:
I'm well aware of what you can and can't do, I have a HOX as well. Having to use my PC to switch hboots when I want to change ROMs does my head in.
There is also the CID issue.
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Agreed. HTC is lame in that regard.
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thegregulator said:
Agreed. HTC is lame in that regard.
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pnnorth said:
I'm well aware of what you can and can't do, I have a HOX as well. Having to use my PC to switch hboots when I want to change ROMs does my head in.
There is also the CID issue.
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Riyal said:
lol when you unlock your device through htcdev you can root, flash ROMs, flash custom kernels and everything. The only restriction is flashing kernel through the phone itself and downgrading hboot and radios... But why would you want that?
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Do you ppl mean to say that rooting and stuff is almost not possible?
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kishorsidu said:
Do you ppl mean to say that rooting and stuff is almost not possible?
Tapatalked with my galaxy tab and SwiftKey Flow
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Rooting with htcdev isn't as good as rooting S-Off. In htcdev, youll have to flash boot image and kernels usinf fastboot

NiCk.JaY said:
Rooting with htcdev isn't as good as rooting S-Off. In htcdev, youll have to flash boot image and kernels usinf fastboot
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Is this definitely the case? Someone in another thread was saying that the hox was only like that because of the Tegra processor and it won't be the same for the one
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Basil3 said:
Is this definitely the case? Someone in another thread was saying that the hox was only like that because of the Tegra processor and it won't be the same for the one
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That's a different story. Achieving s-off on snapdragon has never proved to be a difficult job. Tegra was time taking though
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That's a different story. Achieving s-off on snapdragon has never proved to be a difficult job. Tegra was time taking though
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I didn't think s-off was ever achieved on the hox. If s-off is achieved on the One, then I assume you can flash ROMs and kernels without being connected to a pc. That would make my day.
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kishorsidu said:
Do you ppl mean to say that rooting and stuff is almost not possible?
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It will be possible to root but it will be an inconvenience having to go to the computer every time you want to switch roms.

just sold my n4 and went back to my old desire s while waiting for
the htc one.
Besides all discussion about performance and rooting possibilities: I hope to
get a physically more robust phone like my desire s is. Had the feeling that
N4 could fall on almost any edge to break and hope to feel better with one.

Thinking about picking up the XZ, advice plz..

I currently have the Gs3 on Verizon but my contract is up and I am considering the move to T-Mobile (T-Mobile has great coverage where I live.). Im considering getting the Xperia Z. I've always owned a galaxy phone; Vibrant, S2, S3.... My wife has the s4. I'm really getting bored of the galaxy line and don't care for the s4 compared to the s3. I've really been interested in the XZ since it first debuted. Is it worth it? Any advice.
Ps- Don't care for Verizon, they don't have a wide variety of good phone options (IMO).
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mikaeldalc said:
I currently have the Gs3 on Verizon but my contract is up and I am considering the move to T-Mobile (T-Mobile has great coverage where I live.). Im considering getting the Xperia Z. I've always owned a galaxy phone; Vibrant, S2, S3.... My wife has the s4. I'm really getting bored of the galaxy line and don't care for the s4 compared to the s3. I've really been interested in the XZ since it first debuted. Is it worth it? Any advice.
Ps- Don't care for Verizon, they don't have a wide variety of good phone options (IMO).
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Do it. Simple as. Phone capabilities with other similar hardware phones so ports become easier. Awesome developers here. Also it's a great, slim and good looking phone.
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Go for it. You'll get updates faster than the htc one and the ui is actually beautiful. I learned my lesson.

only downside is bootloader is unlockable and it seems there is no dev around that is willing to put in the work to unlock it. so that means no custom kernels no cm,aokp,or p.a. but if that isnt a deal breaker for you its a GREAT piece of hardware with a great ui:good:

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Go for it. You'll get updates faster than the htc one and the ui is actually beautiful. I learned my lesson.
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Not really faster ... it took how much 4 months for you to get 4.2.2 and its still buggy , for one took 2 months and it's still the most optimised device ever existed , one word lag free .. as for ui isnt the sense acclaimed best looking skin.... anyway won't go into debate with you it's more of a personal preference.
@ op
I'd suggest you to take a look at what you need from the phone then choose the device that suits your needs.
Either way xz is a great device.
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I prefer waiting for another sony phone with triluminous display
to be fully experienced the best of sony in both world (good looking and good satisfaction)

Thanx, guys i went ahead and got it. This thing is beautiful. Now to root and flash a custom rom. i love the stock rom, any stock roms that just focus on enhancing battery and other tidbits? also, should i order a battery case?

mikaeldalc said:
Thanx, guys i went ahead and got it. This thing is beautiful. Now to root and flash a custom rom. i love the stock rom, any stock roms that just focus on enhancing battery and other tidbits? also, should i order a battery case?
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check my sig pic imo its the best stock based rom
and battery is pretty good imo i get at least 20hrs with 3 or 4 hrs screen time

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skinsfanbdh said:
check my sig pic imo its the best stock based rom
and battery is pretty good imo i get at least 20hrs with 3 or 4 hrs screen time
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That's... Less than average battery life.

DrKrFfXx said:
That's... Less than average battery life.
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im pretty sure i said at least... and i have wifi bluetooth nfc and throw on all day long. thats more than enough battery for the average user and i have got 50+ hours with over 4 hours screen time. if you dont have anything productive to say you should just keep it to your self bro

If you have the money and can wait a month or 2 than do that as Xperia Honami is coming that is most likely going to be unveiled in the beginning of September. It is however gonna be significantly more expensive when it comes out as most top phones are. Otherwise I can tell you that it is a great phone and waterproofing has already helped me save my phone once, any other would need a replacement. Check out my video, maybe it will help you decide as well

Depends upon how you use it
Sony xz - if you need a classy lukin phone
Htc one - if you use your phone for texting cos as far as I used, I feel the screen is too big to handle .and loudspeaker of xz is a way lower than htc one. Super lcd is better than tft.
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Gotta have the water resistance that XZ offers. Dropped mine in the toilet after taking a dump (yeah - gross, I know)
Rinsed it, dried it and good as gold
Imagine if that happened with HTC 1 or some other device?
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mikaeldalc said:
I currently have the Gs3 on Verizon but my contract is up and I am considering the move to T-Mobile (T-Mobile has great coverage where I live.). Im considering getting the Xperia Z. I've always owned a galaxy phone; Vibrant, S2, S3.... My wife has the s4. I'm really getting bored of the galaxy line and don't care for the s4 compared to the s3. I've really been interested in the XZ since it first debuted. Is it worth it? Any advice.
Ps- Don't care for Verizon, they don't have a wide variety of good phone options (IMO).
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My previous phone was the Samsung Galaxy S3 and to me, that phone had one good thing - battery life. Otherwise, it was overhyped and not worth the money that I rather could lay on one of the other 2012 high / middle end phones back in november last year. However..
The Sony Xperia Z C6603 is one hell of an well built beast and the dev-support is pretty outstanding.. CM, PA, AOSP / AOKP and a lot of good stock based custom ROMS. Hey, we even got Doomlord that is bringing extended functionalities to the Z with his Doomkernel, that is worth the money all alone
Go with the Xperia Z, dude!
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Destroyedbeauty said:
My previous phone was the Samsung Galaxy S3 and to me, that phone had one good thing - battery life. Otherwise, it was overhyped and not worth the money that I rather could lay on one of the other 2012 high / middle end phones back in november last year. However..
The Sony Xperia Z C6603 is one hell of an well built beast and the dev-support is pretty outstanding.. CM, PA, AOSP / AOKP and a lot of good stock based custom ROMS. Hey, we even got Doomlord that is bringing extended functionalities to the Z with his Doomkernel, that is worth the money all alone
Go with the Xperia Z, dude!
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he got the tmo xz perm locked bootlader so only stock based roms and definitely no doomkernel

Should I trade nexus 5 for z1 c6906?

Got offered a trade my nexus 5 32gb plus a ad 100 for a brand new z1 should I do it ?
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should definitely change to Z1. You won't regret it. the Z was a good phone but it got some problems preventing it to be a great phone, and sony fixed them all in the Z1. I can't think of a better phone at the moment.

Just worried about the camera reviews ? How do you find the camera and the battery life
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Battery life is awesome I can cover the whole day with heavy use, the best android phone I have ever had concerning battery.....camera is also good not good as battery life but is good enough

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Got offered a trade my nexus 5 32gb plus a ad 100 for a brand new z1 should I do it ?
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I can absolutely recommend the Z1 .

Come on the N5 is hideous compared to Z1 I wouldnt trade you any Nexus device for Z1(swap it for sure) and go as far to say, I wouldnt urinate on a Nexus if it were on fire!

homer285 said:
Come on the N5 is hideous compared to Z1 I wouldnt trade you any Nexus device for Z1(swap it for sure) and go as far to say, I wouldnt urinate on a Nexus if it were on fire!
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Lol honestly the Nexus is amazingly smooth and fast but I admit the feel of a z1 is second to none you can tell its pure quality. Well I have some serious thinking to do but thanks for the input guys
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homer285 said:
Come on the N5 is hideous compared to Z1 I wouldnt trade you any Nexus device for Z1(swap it for sure) and go as far to say, I wouldnt urinate on a Nexus if it were on fire!
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N5 is very good phone too.....don't say stupid things....

cingolat said:
N5 is very good phone too.....don't say stupid things....
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He just said its hideous which it is .

offwiththeface said:
Got offered a trade my nexus 5 32gb plus a ad 100 for a brand new z1 should I do it ?
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Hello mate, I actually had both phones and I would highly recommend the Xperia Z1. The only aspects where N5 beats the Z1 is the software updates, developmental support and a more compact form. Check out my video comparison between the two:
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cingolat said:
N5 is very good phone too.....don't say stupid things....
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Im sure it is, however, based on beer goggles the day of my reply and the fact that N5 is a fairly physically challenged device, I do apologize for not 'metaphorically' extinguishing any flames that may have otherwise saved a perfectly good yet otherwise beautiful device and I might add, that only a mother could love.
Not hating or trolling just observing and sharing an opinion.

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Just worried about the camera reviews ? How do you find the camera and the battery life
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Battery life is best by far I have ever had, and the measly N5 battery tilted my decision between N5 and Z1 towards the latter. I haven't been disappointed. Phone is rock solid, lasts through an entire day from morning to midnight with heavy usage, camera is actually pretty good, and despite the viewing angles (which don't bother me) the screen is also excellent.

rxzlmn said:
Battery life is best by far I have ever had, and the measly N5 battery tilted my decision between N5 and Z1 towards the latter. I haven't been disappointed. Phone is rock solid, lasts through an entire day from morning to midnight with heavy usage, camera is actually pretty good, and despite the viewing angles (which don't bother me) the screen is also excellent.
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Totally agree with you, I've had exactly the same feeling/iter....

I had the pick of the litter and lived with each of the big hitters for a few days each and at first the Z1 was my least favourite with me leaning more towards the G2, but the solid build, brilliant camera and pace of the handset just won me over, I've got no regrets on my purchase.
On a side note, development is the only thing that has put me off since, but as soon as that bootloader is sorted, it'll be cool and rom's will be flying in.
You could possibly hold fire until it's done, cos if they don't ever fix the bootloader / camera issue then it'll be a travesty and i will be killing some Sony employees.

dladz said:
I had the pick of the litter and lived with each of the big hitters for a few days each and at first the Z1 was my least favourite with me leaning more towards the G2, but the solid build, brilliant camera and pace of the handset just won me over, I've got no regrets on my purchase.
On a side note, development is the only thing that has put me off since, but as soon as that bootloader is sorted, it'll be cool and rom's will be flying in.
You could possibly hold fire until it's done, cos if they don't ever fix the bootloader / camera issue then it'll be a travesty and i will be killing some Sony employees.
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I was thinking on G2 too but the lack of memory card tilted me toward z1.......memory card lack was the reason to not bought htc one too...... I hate phone without sdcard.....

I am happy to have Z1 but the the only concerned section for me is the assistance from Sony on Android Updates. How long we will stick with 4.2.2? I saw Kitkat and is pretty light and fast.

cingolat said:
I was thinking on G2 too but the lack of memory card tilted me toward z1.......memory card lack was the reason to not bought htc one too...... I hate phone without sdcard.....
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I sold my HTC One, brilliant phone but hasn't got anything on the Z1.

eclyptos said:
I am happy to have Z1 but the the only concerned section for me is the assistance from Sony on Android Updates. How long we will stick with 4.2.2? I saw Kitkat and is pretty light and fast.
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As far as 4.2.2 works well I'm fine with the fact that we're stuck here (for now). I think that Android version doesn't matter as long as the phone works well. I bought my Z1 a week ago and before that I was on X10 with gingerbread and I didn't had any problems with that. I tried custom ROMs with 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 on it but it had some bugs (like camcorder not working) and the most important thing is that everything works fine.
About being light, I believe that Kit Kat is. But faster!? I'm using my Z1 for a week now and I installed tons of apps, I'm playing heavy games and listening to music in the same time, then switching between games, browser and poweramp and the Z1 didn't lagged not even once! This phone is a beast and I think that it can't get faster than this.
I would really like to get Kit Kat but the 4.2.2 works perfectly so far and while it's so, there's no rush for an update. Being faster (which is almost impossible) is not enough for an update. I'm hoping to get even better battery life and better camera in Kit Kat (4K video recording maybe!?) and some other improvements. Otherwise, the update wouldn't make any sense.

xplod2841 said:
I'm hoping to get even better battery life and better camera in Kit Kat (4K video recording maybe!?) and some other improvements.
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This is what I mean. It can be done but the Updates from Sony are close to nothing. Nexus 5 do not have this problems and the OS is always improved. I prefer Z1 anyway but I will be happy to have some updates soon as is possible, otherwise I have to flash some Rom.

eclyptos said:
This is what I mean. It can be done but the Updates from Sony are close to nothing. Nexus 5 do not have this problems and the OS is always improved. I prefer Z1 anyway but I will be happy to have some updates soon as is possible, otherwise I have to flash some Rom.
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This is the only advantage of Nexus, it has to have something otherwise people won't buy it All other is better on Z1: camera, screen, design, waterproofness, memory etc.

Should I?

Thinking of returning my nexus 6 and getting a note 4....what do yall think?
jealous of 8-9hr sot!

I think you should choose on your own instead of making such a silly thread.

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Thinking of returning my nexus 6 and getting a note 4....what do yall think?
jealous of 8-9hr sot!
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No way keep the nexus. It is the lead flagship device of all times. Note 4 doesn't last like nexus.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S

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Thinking of returning my nexus 6 and getting a note 4....what do yall think?
jealous of 8-9hr sot!
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That's funny...I'm getting pretty sick of waiting for a Lollipop update that's probably going to be almost identical to what I'm already running and and I've never hit near 8 hours SOT. Want to trade lol?
Note 4 is awesome, but I think you'll be singing a different tune in 2016 when the Note is three updates behind.

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That's funny...I'm getting pretty sick of waiting for a Lollipop update that's probably going to be almost identical to what I'm already running and and I've never hit near 8 hours SOT. Want to trade lol?
Note 4 is awesome, but I think you'll be singing a different tune in 2016 when the Note is three updates behind.
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In 2016 it will be note 6 time. Everything will be outdated by then
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inconceeeivable said:
That's funny...I'm getting pretty sick of waiting for a Lollipop update that's probably going to be almost identical to what I'm already running and and I've never hit near 8 hours SOT. Want to trade lol?
Note 4 is awesome, but I think you'll be singing a different tune in 2016 when the Note is three updates behind.
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What sot do you get?
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Plus I want smaller with band 12
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In 2016 it will be note 6 time. Everything will be outdated by then
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True, it will be dated, but Nexus phones age much better. The Nexus 5 is still a damn decent phone and gets plenty of support. There are days when I miss it vs. the Note. (Battery isn't great though in comparison.)
My point is that given their track record, if Lollipop is taking this long on the latest and greatest Note, imagine how long updates are going to take when they care even less a couple Android point releases down the line.
And I get 4.5-6 on a good day with the Note, and I'm actually pretty happy with that all things considered. The idle time is phenomenal as well. Three days of light use is not unusual for me.

inconceeeivable said:
That's funny...I'm getting pretty sick of waiting for a Lollipop update that's probably going to be almost identical to what I'm already running and and I've never hit near 8 hours SOT. Want to trade lol?
Note 4 is awesome, but I think you'll be singing a different tune in 2016 when the Note is three updates behind.
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If you want Lollipop flash it there are a bunch of good AOSP ROMS.
The key differences is the screen and the camera. Both are better on the Note 4.
As far as support goes if you root your phone support will last a long time, my Note 2 is already on AOSP Lollipop 5.0.2
As long as the phone has root, don't pick a phone based on software, you can flash whatever you want on it, pick a phone based on hardware.
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ShrekOpher said:
If you want Lollipop flash it there are a bunch of good AOSP ROMS.
The key differences is the screen and the camera. Both are better on the Note 4.
As far as support goes if you root your phone support will last a long time, my Note 2 is already on AOSP Lollipop 5.0.2
As long as the phone has root, don't pick a phone based on software, you can flash whatever you want on it, pick a phone based on hardware.
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I'm reluctant to try AOSP. I owned a Note 2, and CM was buggy as hell.

if your only purpose of switching is SOT let me tell you , you'll be quite disappointed.
You have a lot of people posting 8-9hrs of SOT but not matter what I try what rom i try what kernel i try there's no such thing happening for me.
You literally have to just have the phone on, with screen on without any timeout, doing absolutely nothing.

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if your only purpose of switching is SOT let me tell you , you'll be quite disappointed.
You have a lot of people posting 8-9hrs of SOT but not matter what I try what rom i try what kernel i try there's no such thing happening for me.
You literally have to just have the phone on, with screen on without any timeout, doing absolutely nothing.
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That and the slightly smaller frame, band 12

masri1987 said:
if your only purpose of switching is SOT let me tell you , you'll be quite disappointed.
You have a lot of people posting 8-9hrs of SOT but not matter what I try what rom i try what kernel i try there's no such thing happening for me.
You literally have to just have the phone on, with screen on without any timeout, doing absolutely nothing.
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Lol
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S

I personally would go with the note 4, i had the nexus 6 and wasn't impressed by it one bit, had a couple cool features but not compared to this. However, updates will be way faster on the nexus then on this...but the screen on note 4 in my opinion is way superior, i had to keep the brightness at like 85 percent to be able to see everything good, on here, i keep it at 25. Both fast though!

It took them a bit of time to work out all the bugs on CM on the Note2 but once they did it was WAY better than the stick ROM. CM11 on my Note 2 is the best it had ever run. WAY better than TW, better battery, and much faster.
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shook187 said:
I think you should choose on your own instead of making such a silly thread.
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I don't see this thread/question as a silly one. He's unsure, wants input from others, posts it in a general Q&A section. Seems legit.
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Thinking of returning my nexus 6 and getting a note 4....what do yall think?
jealous of 8-9hr sot!
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To be honest, the only 3 reasons I went with the N4 were 1) the camera (now not so sure), 2) expandable storage through SD card (I could've just picked up the 64GB N6 and be ok) and 3) the pen.
P.S. @PunishedSnake Please refrain from the click-baiting thread names - clearly state what your question is in as much detail as possible in the subject of the thread to avoid members to have to click on it to find out what it's about.

The Note 4 is hands down better than the Nexus 6 when it comes to HARDWARE. Better camera, better screen, better battery life, IR blaster (remote control), comfortable to hold in hand, removable battery, expandable storage, etc. The only reason I would get the Nexus 6 is because of official support by Google as far as stock Android is concerned. Also the Note 4 will have a better resale value than the Nexus 6 if you decide to sell it. If you ever feel the need for a Nexus like experience with the Note 4 you can always root it to be more Nexus like.

I'd go ahead and return the nexus 6. And get the note 4.
I gave my nexus 6 to my mom.

Plus zerolemon
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I'm personally torn.
Having had both, and ultimately sticking w/ the Note 4 only because I still have a Nexus 5 to play around with, I'm just not in love with the Note 4. It's the first phone in the Note series I've owned, and while I enjoy the multi-view and S-Pen capabilities the best, both features are negated when running a non-TouchWiz ROM. Of course, that's to be expected, and not necessarily deal breakers, but I'm indifferent as to how long I'll stick around w/ the device.
To be fair, I should note that I was one of those who got a phone out of the "bad batch" w/ the camera issues, and didn't return it w/i 14 day window nor submit for RMA. Again, for what I personally use the phone for, even that isn't a deal breaker. And to be honest, the Lollipop based ROM I'm running now does hum like a butterfly and have NO complaints about battery life.
Depending on what's on the horizon in a few months, I may utilize the JUMP program or sell outright. Nice phone, for sure, but I think coming from a Nexus, I may be a bit underwhelmed. IMO, if you've come from TouchWiz, or are looking at the camera specs, go w/ the Note 4 and you won't be disappointed.