Should I? - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Thinking of returning my nexus 6 and getting a note 4....what do yall think?
jealous of 8-9hr sot!

I think you should choose on your own instead of making such a silly thread.

PunishedSnake said:
Thinking of returning my nexus 6 and getting a note 4....what do yall think?
jealous of 8-9hr sot!
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No way keep the nexus. It is the lead flagship device of all times. Note 4 doesn't last like nexus.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S

PunishedSnake said:
Thinking of returning my nexus 6 and getting a note 4....what do yall think?
jealous of 8-9hr sot!
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That's funny...I'm getting pretty sick of waiting for a Lollipop update that's probably going to be almost identical to what I'm already running and and I've never hit near 8 hours SOT. Want to trade lol?
Note 4 is awesome, but I think you'll be singing a different tune in 2016 when the Note is three updates behind.

inconceeeivable said:
That's funny...I'm getting pretty sick of waiting for a Lollipop update that's probably going to be almost identical to what I'm already running and and I've never hit near 8 hours SOT. Want to trade lol?
Note 4 is awesome, but I think you'll be singing a different tune in 2016 when the Note is three updates behind.
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In 2016 it will be note 6 time. Everything will be outdated by then
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S

inconceeeivable said:
That's funny...I'm getting pretty sick of waiting for a Lollipop update that's probably going to be almost identical to what I'm already running and and I've never hit near 8 hours SOT. Want to trade lol?
Note 4 is awesome, but I think you'll be singing a different tune in 2016 when the Note is three updates behind.
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What sot do you get?
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Plus I want smaller with band 12
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BACARDILIMON said:
In 2016 it will be note 6 time. Everything will be outdated by then
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True, it will be dated, but Nexus phones age much better. The Nexus 5 is still a damn decent phone and gets plenty of support. There are days when I miss it vs. the Note. (Battery isn't great though in comparison.)
My point is that given their track record, if Lollipop is taking this long on the latest and greatest Note, imagine how long updates are going to take when they care even less a couple Android point releases down the line.
And I get 4.5-6 on a good day with the Note, and I'm actually pretty happy with that all things considered. The idle time is phenomenal as well. Three days of light use is not unusual for me.

inconceeeivable said:
That's funny...I'm getting pretty sick of waiting for a Lollipop update that's probably going to be almost identical to what I'm already running and and I've never hit near 8 hours SOT. Want to trade lol?
Note 4 is awesome, but I think you'll be singing a different tune in 2016 when the Note is three updates behind.
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If you want Lollipop flash it there are a bunch of good AOSP ROMS.
The key differences is the screen and the camera. Both are better on the Note 4.
As far as support goes if you root your phone support will last a long time, my Note 2 is already on AOSP Lollipop 5.0.2
As long as the phone has root, don't pick a phone based on software, you can flash whatever you want on it, pick a phone based on hardware.
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ShrekOpher said:
If you want Lollipop flash it there are a bunch of good AOSP ROMS.
The key differences is the screen and the camera. Both are better on the Note 4.
As far as support goes if you root your phone support will last a long time, my Note 2 is already on AOSP Lollipop 5.0.2
As long as the phone has root, don't pick a phone based on software, you can flash whatever you want on it, pick a phone based on hardware.
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I'm reluctant to try AOSP. I owned a Note 2, and CM was buggy as hell.

if your only purpose of switching is SOT let me tell you , you'll be quite disappointed.
You have a lot of people posting 8-9hrs of SOT but not matter what I try what rom i try what kernel i try there's no such thing happening for me.
You literally have to just have the phone on, with screen on without any timeout, doing absolutely nothing.

masri1987 said:
if your only purpose of switching is SOT let me tell you , you'll be quite disappointed.
You have a lot of people posting 8-9hrs of SOT but not matter what I try what rom i try what kernel i try there's no such thing happening for me.
You literally have to just have the phone on, with screen on without any timeout, doing absolutely nothing.
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That and the slightly smaller frame, band 12

masri1987 said:
if your only purpose of switching is SOT let me tell you , you'll be quite disappointed.
You have a lot of people posting 8-9hrs of SOT but not matter what I try what rom i try what kernel i try there's no such thing happening for me.
You literally have to just have the phone on, with screen on without any timeout, doing absolutely nothing.
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Lol
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S

I personally would go with the note 4, i had the nexus 6 and wasn't impressed by it one bit, had a couple cool features but not compared to this. However, updates will be way faster on the nexus then on this...but the screen on note 4 in my opinion is way superior, i had to keep the brightness at like 85 percent to be able to see everything good, on here, i keep it at 25. Both fast though!

It took them a bit of time to work out all the bugs on CM on the Note2 but once they did it was WAY better than the stick ROM. CM11 on my Note 2 is the best it had ever run. WAY better than TW, better battery, and much faster.
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shook187 said:
I think you should choose on your own instead of making such a silly thread.
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I don't see this thread/question as a silly one. He's unsure, wants input from others, posts it in a general Q&A section. Seems legit.
PunishedSnake said:
Thinking of returning my nexus 6 and getting a note 4....what do yall think?
jealous of 8-9hr sot!
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To be honest, the only 3 reasons I went with the N4 were 1) the camera (now not so sure), 2) expandable storage through SD card (I could've just picked up the 64GB N6 and be ok) and 3) the pen.
P.S. @PunishedSnake Please refrain from the click-baiting thread names - clearly state what your question is in as much detail as possible in the subject of the thread to avoid members to have to click on it to find out what it's about.

The Note 4 is hands down better than the Nexus 6 when it comes to HARDWARE. Better camera, better screen, better battery life, IR blaster (remote control), comfortable to hold in hand, removable battery, expandable storage, etc. The only reason I would get the Nexus 6 is because of official support by Google as far as stock Android is concerned. Also the Note 4 will have a better resale value than the Nexus 6 if you decide to sell it. If you ever feel the need for a Nexus like experience with the Note 4 you can always root it to be more Nexus like.

I'd go ahead and return the nexus 6. And get the note 4.
I gave my nexus 6 to my mom.

Plus zerolemon
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I'm personally torn.
Having had both, and ultimately sticking w/ the Note 4 only because I still have a Nexus 5 to play around with, I'm just not in love with the Note 4. It's the first phone in the Note series I've owned, and while I enjoy the multi-view and S-Pen capabilities the best, both features are negated when running a non-TouchWiz ROM. Of course, that's to be expected, and not necessarily deal breakers, but I'm indifferent as to how long I'll stick around w/ the device.
To be fair, I should note that I was one of those who got a phone out of the "bad batch" w/ the camera issues, and didn't return it w/i 14 day window nor submit for RMA. Again, for what I personally use the phone for, even that isn't a deal breaker. And to be honest, the Lollipop based ROM I'm running now does hum like a butterfly and have NO complaints about battery life.
Depending on what's on the horizon in a few months, I may utilize the JUMP program or sell outright. Nice phone, for sure, but I think coming from a Nexus, I may be a bit underwhelmed. IMO, if you've come from TouchWiz, or are looking at the camera specs, go w/ the Note 4 and you won't be disappointed.

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Should I buy the Nexus 6 or a Note 4

Hey everyone, Ive had a note 2 for 2 years now and samsung honestly has a lot of bloatware, also the phone is really slow now that even the youtube app would take 3-5 seconds to open. Which phone do u think is better and did anyone have the experience of their nexus 5 or 4 getting a lot slower in a matter of a year or two?? Thanks
iliadmoosavi said:
Hey everyone, Ive had a note 2 for 2 years now and samsung honestly has a lot of bloatware, also the phone is really slow now that even the youtube app would take 3-5 seconds to open. Which phone do u think is better and did anyone have the experience of their nexus 5 or 4 getting a lot slower in a matter of a year or two?? Thanks
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I ditched my Note 2 Wed night for the Note 4 Developer Edition on VZW. If you are on VZW or ATT and you don't get a develop edition it may be a long time (if ever) for root and/or bootloader unlocking. If tweaking the device is important that will play a huge factor. As for lag...I am running a debloated rom (no knox or bloatware) and I froze S-voice...there is zero lag now, but you need root to do that.
I was down to either the Nexus 6 or N4 DE...whichever one I could buy first. I am not a fanboy of either as both have good and bad points and I am sure I would have been happy with either. My favorite thing about android is that if there is something I don't like or a feature I want, there is almost always a way to make it happen (assuming you have root and an unlocked bootloader). Hope this helps.
My short input: Hardware is better on the Note 4. Software better on the Nexus 6.
I chose the Nexus because I wanted to experience Stock Android. But I believe the Note is a better phone overall.
iliadmoosavi said:
Hey everyone, Ive had a note 2 for 2 years now and samsung honestly has a lot of bloatware, also the phone is really slow now that even the youtube app would take 3-5 seconds to open. Which phone do u think is better and did anyone have the experience of their nexus 5 or 4 getting a lot slower in a matter of a year or two?? Thanks
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I had the Note 3 before I upgraded to the Nexus 6. In my opinion the Nexus 6 is beast & fast as all hell! I mean this thing is so fast out of the box without need to use a custom rom or anything like that. I never used the stylus so that's never been any issue for me when deciding to upgrade my device. Also the front facing speakers & the screen clarity is seriously AWESOME!
I haven't used a phone in years where I didn't feel the need to alter it to make it perform as I thought it should. I did root mine because I love using Titanium Backup and certain apps like that. I woudn't go back to my Note 3 for anything after using this! I don't recall being so happy overall with a device!!!
PS: I also feel that you will not notice much of a differance between the Note 2 & 4 but upgrading to the Nexus 6 will be a very new experiance you will enjoy!!!
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I had the Note 3 before I upgraded to the Nexus 6. In my opinion the Nexus 6 is beast & fast as all hell! I mean this thing is so fast out of the box without need to use a custom rom or anything like that. I never used the stylus so that's never been any issue for me when deciding to upgrade my device. Also the front facing speakers & the screen clarity is seriously AWESOME!
I haven't used a phone in years where I didn't feel the need to alter it to make it perform as I thought it should. I did root mine because I love using Titanium Backup and certain apps like that. I woudn't go back to my Note 3 for anything after using this! I don't recall being so happy overall with a device!!!
PS: I also feel that you will not notice much of a differance between the Note 2 & 4 but upgrading to the Nexus 6 will be a very new experiance you will enjoy!!!
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Thanks everyone!
I bought nexus 6 and my sister bought note 4. My sister loves her note 4 and I am returning my nexus 6. Only Note series has right features for big screen. Nexus 6 is not very pleasant in use.
But it all comes down to what you need must. My sister doesn't care about software upgrades so it's a perfect phone her.
There reason I am returning my nexus 6 because of some issues. Battery life is meh. Its just big. And no led? Really I need to root to get it? That's just stupid. There is always cloud app fc. I mean come on brand new phone and a fc. It has no advantage over any other latest phone except the OS (that too experience some lag).
After using nexus 4 and then nexus 5. I am going back to my one plus one. Half Price and better performance then nexus 6.
Just to answer your question, if Samsung keeps their word go with international or developer edition note 4.
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viny2cool said:
I bought nexus 6 and my sister bought note 4. My sister loves her note 4 and I am returning my nexus 6. Only Note series has right features for big screen. Nexus 6 is not very pleasant in use.
But it all comes down to what you need must. My sister doesn't care about software upgrades so it's a perfect phone her.
There reason I am returning my nexus 6 because of some issues. Battery life is meh. Its just big. And no led? Really I need to root to get it? That's just stupid. There is always cloud app fc. I mean come on brand new phone and a fc. It has no advantage over any other latest phone except the OS (that too experience some lag).
After using nexus 4 and then nexus 5. I am going back to my one plus one. Half Price and better performance then nexus 6.
Just to answer your question, if Samsung keeps their word go with international or developer edition note 4.
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So i ended up getting the note 4, is there any way to get rid of all the bloatware and make the software just like the nexus phones? Have the roots came out yet?
Should've bought the nexus 6. Smh...
Although the Note 4 is ready to hold in the hand, the Nexus 6 is better in my opinion because there is no TouchWiz installed on it
iliadmoosavi said:
So i ended up getting the note 4, is there any way to get rid of all the bloatware and make the software just like the nexus phones? Have the roots came out yet?
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Smh
lostnuke said:
Should've bought the nexus 6. Smh...
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Im in Canada and I would have to wait for 3 weeks for Rogers to get it for me and thats really late or i wouldve got the nexus 6. But is there a way to get the same lollipop rom as the nexus 6 that would be as fast and no bloatware?
dizbstretch said:
Although the Note 4 is ready to hold in the hand, the Nexus 6 is better in my opinion because there is no TouchWiz installed on it
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Thats its only advantage tho, a lot of ppl say the battery life is not so good, my note 2 still has more battery life than some new phones.
iliadmoosavi said:
So i ended up getting the note 4, is there any way to get rid of all the bloatware and make the software just like the nexus phones? Have the roots came out yet?
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Think that's a question for the note 4 forum...no one in the nexus 6 forum will have this issue.[emoji41]
ericsignals said:
Think that's a question for the note 4 forum...no one in the nexus 6 forum will have this issue.[emoji41]
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ur right, and i cant move it!

anyone coming from note 4 or note edge?

So I just came from note 4 and note edge curious anyone start to (had note 4 and note edge each 1 week of use)
Feel like me? Kinda miss the kidnapper lol
So i m loving the smooth stock experience very smooth however
The note 4 and edge seem to have a bit of the sexiness with them ?
Gonna give this 1 week trial I would probably settle with the note edge if
This don't go well ..lol
Anyone?
I came from Note 4 after 2 months of usage, so far quite like the nexus 6. Battery seems to be better for me with Nexus 6. I use everything at full blast by the way, no power saver or reduce stuff
tornado6 said:
I came from Note 4 after 2 months of usage, so far quite like the nexus 6. Battery seems to be better for me with Nexus 6. I use everything at full blast by the way, no power saver or reduce stuff
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You have your gps on?
kingrichards said:
You have your gps on?
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Yes, didnt turn off my GPS
Maybe note edge or note 4 get lollipop maybe smooth
kingrichards said:
So I just came from note 4 and note edge curious anyone start to (had note 4 and note edge each 1 week of use)
Feel like me? Kinda miss the kidnapper lol
So i m loving the smooth stock experience very smooth however
The note 4 and edge seem to have a bit of the sexiness with them ?
Gonna give this 1 week trial I would probably settle with the note edge if
This don't go well ..lol
Anyone?
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I switched from an AT&T Branded Note 4 to the Nexus 6, so far I don't miss much, I rarely used the S Pen, the Oxygen Sensor even less, and my Gear Live has a Heart Rate Monitor. I think the Nexus 6 looks pretty sexy myself The Nexus 6 from T-Mobile comes unlocked and bloat free, and is easily bootloader unlocked and rooted, two things the AT&T Note 4 still can't do.
Today is my first day with nexus 6 at work so far smooth ass response and loving it ..I'm in wall street so texted and a lot of emails and messages been 2 hours it is 93%
Is this another epic Note 4 vs Nexus 6 thread in disguise?
Call in the boys @regime2008 @TonyM77 @pierrekid
would like to see what more of you guys have to say.. Im trying to decide which phone out of the N6 Note 4 and one plus one
Went from Nexus 5, gave the Nexus 6 a shot, and ultimately settled on the Note 4 (while keeping the Nexus 5 because it's still an amazing phone and I didn't want to give up on pure Google goodness )
I won't drag this thread into another "which phone is better" banter, just answering your question. Nexus 6 holds it own, Note 4 has a few bells and whistles that may or may not appeal. I've been a Nexus guy for years, and had never ventured into the Note series, so I decided to hold one of each for a while.
After running a SlimLP build on the Note 4, I can say that both the Nexus 6 and this one run Lollipop amazingly. At the end of the day, you can't go wrong w/ either purchase.
I came from note 4 after 2 weeks usage/experience. I had all note series. The only thing I miss is multi window. N6 is very speedy and yes 6' screen is so nice...
P.s I miss also Samsung keyboard with numeric row.
shook187 said:
Is this another epic Note 4 vs Nexus 6 thread in disguise?
Call in the boys @regime2008 @TonyM77 @pierrekid
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No its actually a legitimate thread ...so far NEXUS 6 is smooth and sexy
I mean you gotta love the way lollipop animate when you touch something
Its more smoother than my iPhone 6 plus holy cow.
Point of it is that note edge or note 4 is also best of the best
So it is confusing since I have 13 days left to play with it.
I do rmemeber tho yesterday when I was watching you tube I was watching 2k
And that's when I know and smile when you hear the stereo speakers and the big ass
Screen doing its thing the nexus way....
Also keep in mind also that note4 will get lollipop it could be sick ..and solve the touchwiz thing anyway 13 days to go
Thoughts?
Coming from the note 4 after a few months. Now 1 week into the Nexus and I love it. Knowing what I know now the nexus would be my first choice. Since I can't compare the two without people getting butthurt, I'll just say there is nothing i miss about the Note 4.
drazyw said:
Coming from the note 4 after a few months. Now 1 week into the Nexus and I love it. Knowing what I know now the nexus would be my first choice. Since I can't compare the two without people getting butthurt, I'll just say there is nothing i miss about the Note 4.
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I think I'm force to agree with you.
Im digging the snappy feel of the lollipop wonder if the note lollipop
Will be as smooth if it is ...this could be check mate lol
shook187 said:
Is this another epic Note 4 vs Nexus 6 thread in disguise?
Call in the boys @regime2008 @TonyM77 @pierrekid
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Im here!! Haha!!
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Coming from a note is totaly fine. However maybe its better to wait sucking lollipop first on the note 4 before comparing or pick another device. Snappys will run way smoother but if your on exynos, you wil enjoy more 64bts and full ART runtime as well. Besides that, its already time for next generation 810 soon. So therefore its worth waiting a while more to..
And no, im not gonna bash on the nexus 6 anymore, we had our fun..so did the nexus fanclub and finaly had the thread closed
I realy dont know what to pick coming from a note but the nexus 6...
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jaron7_11 said:
would like to see what more of you guys have to say.. Im trying to decide which phone out of the N6 Note 4 and one plus
If i had to pick today, the oneplus one 100% is the perfect phone for in between snappy 805 and 810. If you like buy a expensive note or nexus at this time....waste of money, better a 270 euro phone for now, wait a few months and get yourself that awesome snappy 810. The oneplus one is fast enough while waiting, running CM rom. Most 'bang for buck' phone ever...
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niyazidk said:
I came from note 4 after 2 weeks usage/experience. I had all note series. The only thing I miss is multi window. N6 is very speedy and yes 6' screen is so nice...
P.s I miss also Samsung keyboard with numeric row.
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You can do the numeric row in the Google Keyboard, and I believe in SwiftKey too.
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You can do the numeric row in the Google Keyboard, and I believe in SwiftKey too.
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Yes i know. I have actually made one. A google keyboard with pc loy out. And yes the good old Swiftkey... It is not the same like Samsung keyboard ⌨ with white background
at&t note edge first traded for nexus 6
jaron7_11 said:
would like to see what more of you guys have to say.. Im trying to decide which phone out of the N6 Note 4 and one plus one
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my first android device was when i got the At&t note edge two weeks ago...after having it two days and realizing no root, no lollipop = nexus 6 for me. I HATE bloatware. having said that, the note edge IS extremely sexy but the [email protected] version is filled to the brim with b.s. take it as you will....

Thinking of getting a note 4

Do you guys think it's a good switch? Coming from an s5, rooted custom as always. Will I be happy?
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CamoCustom said:
Do you guys think it's a good switch? Coming from an s5, rooted custom as always. Will I be happy?
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Had S4 for a while, was happy, but wanted bigger screen. Read some reviews and comparisons, watched some YouTube clips. Max Lee got his opinion on YouTube, should know him if you've been custom for a while.
S4 is older so there are a lot more custom ROMs, N4 is getting there.
Had it for about 2 months, I like it better than S4.
She always asks if I'm happy to see her or my note 4 is in my pocket
BTW when I first removed the battery cover, on the back side of it, it says, "You will be happy"! Good luck:good:
Good switch...but will you be happy...we can't decide or make such judgement for you.
You'll be happy for a few months, that is until the note 5 comes out. If I was you I'd wait it out a few more months and pick up a note 5 instead.
I'd be afraid if I wait for the 5 that they are gonna do what they did to the s6
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I'd also say wait. Then you'd have options, 5 or 4. And if it be still N4, then might find a better deal on it, stores or public getting rid of their obsolete N4
if note 5 becomes the s6...the note 4 will be on deals
Not sure about the galaxy 5 but I just came over from the M8 and I'm blown away by it, very happy I made the switch!
Note 4 is good to go and will be the one i keep for a while, easy to root, lots of customizations out there, and from all i have read and heard, the note 5 will be like the S6, no sd card or removable battery...but you never know...regardless, this thing is a beast and will be a fast phone that will get updated for a while.
Note 4 is wack! Completely wack! Either that or me and the 2 other people I know that personally have the phone all got lemons! I for real can't stand all the bugs and weird crap that my note 4 has a does. I'm getting another phone this week that's just my personal opinion. My note 3 was 100 times better.
It's a good switch.
We have the most roms
I switched yesterday, already rooted the same night and twrp, no hiccups. I like it better so far
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I own a Note 4 and absolutely love it.. TouchWiz still sucks and STILL makes it lag though but once I flashed an AOSP ROM on it holy f*ck does it fly with ZERO hiccups and now I can make the speaker volume even louder using FauxSound. Couldn't be more happy.. Either get a Note 4 or just wait til October for Note 5. Personally I'd probably wait but like another user said they might not include removable battery/SD card in the Note 5 but hey, in that case if you really wanted those features and they dont include them just get the Note 4 in October anyway, up to you.. That's what I would do though :good:
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Note 4 is wack! Completely wack! Either that or me and the 2 other people I know that personally have the phone all got lemons! I for real can't stand all the bugs and weird crap that my note 4 has a does. I'm getting another phone this week that's just my personal opinion. My note 3 was 100 times better.
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Funny I haven't had a single problem with mine yet, what bugs do you speak of?
Ditto. How could note 3 possibly b better than N4?
Wait for the note 5 to come out then if you care about saving money get the note 4 if not get the note 5. If you want a big screen that gives more freedom then just get a nexus or lg g4, they are on stock and dont have useless features like the s pen.
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It's a good switch. We have the most devs.
IMO the Note 4 is the best device made to date. No other comes close. The S-Pen is the most powerful tool for any Smart Phone made. I've had every top of the line device, nothing even comes close. Just my opinion.
Sent from my Note 4.

A question for Note 5 owners who previously owned Note 4

I know the title sounds weird lol but I actually would like to know what are the first impressions of comrades that owned Note 4 previously and switched for the new Note 5. Is the difference that great? I personally own the note 4 and I can tell yes, the note 5 feels a lot better in hand and performance wise on my end. Maybe because my Note 4 was the snapchat quadcore variant instead of the exynos? I am not sure but I definitely prefer the note 5. It makes me happy by just looking at how vibrant and crisp the display is.
Note 5 performance blows the 4 away. Night and day. And battery life is much better as well.
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Note 5 performance blows the 4 away. Night and day. And battery life is much better as well.
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Fully agree
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Fully agree
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I agree as well..also it feels much better in hand. I have zero regrets
If you can live without the memory expansion and removable battery, the Note5 is MUCH better than the Note 4 in every other aspect.
The build quality is better for sure. The battery life doesn't "blow away" by any means, so don't think it will for a second. The performance is better but nothing to make you think foolish for still owning a Note 4.
shollywood said:
The build quality is better for sure. The battery life doesn't "blow away" by any means, so don't think it will for a second. The performance is better but nothing to make you think foolish for still owning a Note 4.
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The battery life is more than great... I get like 6 hours of screen on over a 20 hour day. That's excellent, and certainly at least 30% better than my Note 4 was. And the performance is day and night difference. The Note 4 lagged everywhere. The Note5, not at all so far.
Thank you all for the feedback. Im putting my hand on the note 5 today as I just received the black sapphire 32 gb phone. Will provide my experience after a day of my typical usage. It looks really promising before i even start using it.
So I have been testing the note 5 for a full day yesterday and it does really feels much smoother and fun to use than the note 4. The display makes you happy by just looking at it. It outperforms note 4 in playing heavy graphic demanding games and it is really fun using social media with. I like this device too much that I am not using my iphone 6 plus for the whole day, even for call quality I preferred the note 5. The design feels so premium in hand as well. I like the device.
It's simply better in every respect than the 4. My wife still has the 4 and it looks so dated to me. I used the move as an opportunity to go 'cloud' on everything and it hasn't impacted me one bit. In fact, it's more secure as an SD can be removed from a stolen device whereas a loss device can be remotely reset or can't be logged into. Battery has been fine although I tend to nervously charge at every opportunity! It's faster, snapier, smoother, more responsive, better screen, lighter, thinner and easier to hold, and the ability to unlock we just by touching the home button is the biggest benefit ever (as my work forces lock every time the device times out). It's by far the best device I have ever owned. And it looks fantastic!
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Not being facetious, but what was your (previous posters) setup on the N4? Rooted, custom ROM, Xposed, etc?
harlenm said:
Note 5 performance blows the 4 away. Night and day. And battery life is much better as well.
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I should have quoted you guys earlier when I asked the question above, but I'll ask it again... What was your N4 setup? Were you rooted, running a custom ROM, using Xposed, etc? And are you rooted on your Note 5? If not, do you plan to be?
ambervals6 said:
Fully agree
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NiquiSE said:
I agree as well..also it feels much better in hand. I have zero regrets
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KarimSalloum said:
If you can live without the memory expansion and removable battery, the Note5 is MUCH better than the Note 4 in every other aspect.
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ekerbuddyeker said:
It's simply better in every respect than the 4. My wife still has the 4 and it looks so dated to me. I used the move as an opportunity to go 'cloud' on everything and it hasn't impacted me one bit. In fact, it's more secure as an SD can be removed from a stolen device whereas a loss device can be remotely reset or can't be logged into. Battery has been fine although I tend to nervously charge at every opportunity! It's faster, snapier, smoother, more responsive, better screen, lighter, thinner and easier to hold, and the ability to unlock we just by touching the home button is the biggest benefit ever (as my work forces lock every time the device times out). It's by far the best device I have ever owned. And it looks fantastic!
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Commandermadi said:
So I have been testing the note 5 for a full day yesterday and it does really feels much smoother and fun to use than the note 4. The display makes you happy by just looking at it. It outperforms note 4 in playing heavy graphic demanding games and it is really fun using social media with. I like this device too much that I am not using my iphone 6 plus for the whole day, even for call quality I preferred the note 5. The design feels so premium in hand as well. I like the device.
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Thanks for your responses. Just trying to put your comments in perspective.
ATT stock rom, unrooted. Same on both devices.
All I have to say is that it took a couple of OTAs for the note 4 to have the bugs and smalls problems ironed out. The Note 5 was amazing out of the box. I am very happy with my note 5, although my note 4 is my second favorite phone
second consecutive day using the Note 5 and it is really much better than my Quad-Core Snapdragon Note 4.
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All I have to say is that it took a couple of OTAs for the note 4 to have the bugs and smalls problems ironed out. The Note 5 was amazing out of the box. I am very happy with my note 5, although my note 4 is my second favorite phone
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Speak for yourself. The AT&T Note 4 had hit or miss GPS that was made better and worse but never good with multiple updates. One of the updates caused my battery life to drop by about 15% and it was never awe inspiring to begin with. The W8 versions are practically carrier unmolested which is why your experience is probably different than mine. I loved my Note 4; there was nothing out there that I thought was better. But, at least the way I use it, the Note 5 is in a different league.
Mine was stock at&t. I forgot about that awful gps. I even got a replacement from att because of it.
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Speak for yourself. The AT&T Note 4 had hit or miss GPS that was made better and worse but never good with multiple updates. One of the updates caused my battery life to drop by about 15% and it was never awe inspiring to begin with. The W8 versions are practically carrier unmolested which is why your experience is probably different than mine. I loved my Note 4; there was nothing out there that I thought was better. But, at least the way I use it, the Note 5 is in a different league.
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So we're still talking about stock unrooted?
I just say this because I'm considering my next device, and I know some people with N5's that are happy with their purchase, and I know some who aren't. It seems to boil down to this: Comparing a stock N5 to a stock N4 is obviously no contest, as Samsung doesn't optimise their devices to their full potential... (Gotta love planned obsolescence) But as a rooted N4 user running a custom ROM that transforms my entire user experience, I wonder if the performance chasm that is being described is truly that vast...
Edit: And I have held the N5 in hand... I'm certainly not bashing it - it's a beautiful device. But I feel Samsung left so much on the table, and didn't really improve a device that was poised to truly dominate the market.
Well I was a nay-sayer to the Note 5 (I was going to avoid it at ALL costs). That was until my Note 4 speaker blew (factory warranty replacement) but since they didn't have any Note 4's in Stock where I went they told me that I was getting a Note 5 for free. I was hesitant and was going to deal with the blown speaker until they could get me a Note 4. However, the person at the store convinced me to at least take the Note 5 in the meantime and at least give it the 14 day trial. So, I did... I must admit I love it, I don't miss the SD card slot, though I am still looking into a secure cloud service. I have noticed the reception I get from the tower (Sprint service) is way stronger than the Note 4 I had in the same locations, and side by side comparisons with my wife's note 4 holds true to that statement as well. I have never been one to switch out batteries, so that was never an issue anyways.
TL;DR: Note 5 > Note 4 IMHO
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So we're still talking about stock unrooted?
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Yep. I connect to secure networks that don't allow rooted devices on. I also didn't want to obliterate Samsung Pay and other apps that can't be root cloaked that read device status.
But as a rooted N4 user running a custom ROM that transforms my entire user experience, I wonder if the performance chasm that is being described is truly that vast...
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Assuming you're able to mimic the same custom environment on the Note 5 it'll still blow your Note 4 out of the water. Software can't take the place of a more modern and powerful SoC, uber fast memory and storage, and more streamlined and lighter stock apps and UI (assuming you're using any).
And I have held the N5 in hand... I'm certainly not bashing it - it's a beautiful device. But I feel Samsung left so much on the table, and didn't really improve a device that was poised to truly dominate the market.
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What's really left design wise? The display sets the shape of the device so the only thing to play with is bezel size and depth. To support wireless signals and control weight material choices are metal, glass, and plastic. So no matter who makes a phone it's going to be a slab of glass on the front and made out of metal, glass, and/or plastic. HTC's dual front speakers didn't sell phones. LG's bizarre control placement and KnockOn didn't sell phones. Sony's waterproofing didn't sell phones. Apple's 8MP camera, iterative designs, lack of expandable storage, and fixed battery didn't prevent phones from being sold. Welcome to the "mature" smartphone market.

Note 5, flip it or love it?

Hey XDA
Brief background, want to make this small post here.
Had the S4 for a year, actually enjoyed it for what it was worth, wanted out as soon as we knew for sure there was no root. Stock Touchwiz was just terrible on the 4.
I've never had the chance to own a Nexus device before, my carrier upgrades always came just before the Nexus devices were released, and I've been so ready to upgrade when it comes I jump on it.
This time around I stuck with my G3 for a while. I love this phone. I'm ready for new, and the phones coming out this year are not quite "notable"
I really have my eyes on the Nexus 6P - but US carriers not selling it means I have a decision to make. Got my dad the Note 4 earlier this year, he likes it. I like it the little bit I've played with it. I feel I could even use the Note 5 to replace my notebook in class for notes. ATT bootloader seems to be like the S4. Not much will come of bootloader unlocks with this phone.. It appears.
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So I will upgrade through ATT, probably to the Note 5. Question is - stay with the Note 5 and learn to love it, despite the experiences I've had with Samsung, or flip it unopened on CL and order up the N6P....??
I really do not want a subpar camera to the G3, nor do I want a dull screen. Both devices seem on par, both no SD, battery not removable on the Note... Cameras both good..
Anyone here want the Nexus 6P?! Willing to get rid of your Note 5 for it?
The 6P looks sweet (literally and figuratively) but I'll never buy a smartphone with the Snapdragon 810. I already have a stove.
If i had a real need for a second phone, Nexus 6P will be my choice
I like Note5 as my main phone, S pen is really helpful, and makes you smart ?
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I see. Can anyone here tell me if it's valid to think you could completely replace a notebook and take notes in an 8 hour class day with the n5?
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KarimSalloum said:
The 6P looks sweet (literally and figuratively) but I'll never buy a smartphone with the Snapdragon 810. I already have a stove.
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The phone hasn't even come out yet, wait until someone can review it. There are phones with the chip that heat up a lot, and some that don't heat at all.
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I've had the Note 5 for a few weeks now, it is an excellent all-around Android phone.
I think the Nexus 6p looks great too, has pros and cons like any phone.
I think the Note 5 is the better all-around device and is the premier flagship Android phone of 2015.
I don't think you could sit and take notes for 8 hours on this phone. Lol. Maybe you could, maybe not. I would never want to do that.
The Nexus 6p is using the SnapDragon 810 version 2.1 - heat issues have "supposedly" been resolved on that version.
Some things to consider with AT&T:
1) You can't root but you can use Samsung Pay
2) Resale value on AT&T branded Samsung phones (Android in general) are lower than other models like T-Mobile, due to the locked bootloader, they usually sell for less/resale for less.
So I don't think you want to take a risk and purchase the phone from them, only to sell it for less.
Worst come to worst, try it out, they should give you 14 days to try it and return it. Something like that.
HNIC215 said:
I've had the Note 5 for a few weeks now, it is an excellent all-around Android phone.
I think the Nexus 6p looks great too, has pros and cons like any phone.
I think the Note 5 is the better all-around device and is the premier flagship Android phone of 2015.
I don't think you could sit and take notes for 8 hours on this phone. Lol. Maybe you could, maybe not. I would never want to do that.
The Nexus 6p is using the SnapDragon 810 version 2.1 - heat issues have "supposedly" been resolved on that version.
Some things to consider with AT&T:
1) You can't root but you can use Samsung Pay
2) Resale value on AT&T branded Samsung phones (Android in general) are lower than other models like T-Mobile, due to the locked bootloader, they usually sell for less/resale for less.
So I don't think you want to take a risk and purchase the phone from them, only to sell it for less.
Worst come to worst, try it out, they should give you 14 days to try it and return it. Something like that.
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True and true. I may end up doing that. Will be end of this month or next, don't want to make a payment to pay off my G3, got 4 months left but they usually let you swap with 2 left.
I want to try the N5, the S6 edge has a brilliant screen but not for me.
I just really have my heart set on this N6P. If I don't like what I get with the Note5 I may return it for a iPhone6S and sell that on CL. Should get more $$$ for it. Overnight myself a N6P and I'll be good to go.
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It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
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Indeed. That's true. I love vanilla Android. I wish the OnePlus 2 was a bit better... I'd sweep that in a heartbeat.
Touchwiz in my experience has been very Ram consuming and slow with the amazing hardware Samsung has brought to the table. It ruins the phone in my opinion. If course, the Note typically has better optimized software and useful features.
I lean more and more to the n6p every time I look at it. But again, ATT doesn't sell. Going to really suck
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
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I agree, I think somewhere along the line, maybe around lollipop, I started to enjoy the touchwiz version more because of all the useful features built in to the OS.
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
That's true. I love vanilla Android. I wish the OnePlus 2 was a bit better...
Touchwiz in my experience has been very Ram consuming and slow with the amazing hardware Samsung has brought to the table. It ruins the phone in my opinion.
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I've had the Note 3, 4 and now 5. In my opinion, each iteration is slowly getting refined to be a better version compared to the last. If they keep this up, all the old stereotypes about touchwiz will eventually be obsolete.
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I've had the Note 3, 4 and now 5. In my opinion, each iteration is slowly getting refined to be a better version compared to the last. If they keep this up, all the old stereotypes about touchwiz will eventually be obsolete.
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Old stereotypes are still there... yeah there's less bloatware but have you seen the RAM management on the Note5? Shameful.
Now that the V10 is out I would also consider that as an option. It looks fantastic.
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Now that the V10 is out I would also consider that as an option. It looks fantastic.
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What V10?
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
What V10?
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LG.
KarimSalloum said:
Old stereotypes are still there... yeah there's less bloatware but have you seen the RAM management on the Note5? Shameful.
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I think RAM management can easily be fixed with a software update.
The Note 5 - even with this "RAM management" issue - is still the fastest, smoothest Note I've used. Hands down!
Software was never a strong suite for Samsung, however, they are learning. Fast enough for some people, slow for others.
It should only get better...
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LG.
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Saw it... Not interested in the front screen thing, seems a bit gimicky...
But... Could be neat. I don't think I will wait that long until I upgrade.
HNIC215 said:
I think RAM management can easily be fixed with a software update.
The Note 5 - even with this "RAM management" issue - is still the fastest, smoothest Note I've used. Hands down!
Software was never a strong suite for Samsung, however, they are learning. Fast enough for some people, slow for others.
It should only get better...
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Yeah, yet the track record shows Samsung will not upgrade the software's RAM consumption near as much as they could. They just don't have our interests at heart, rather the general public. After all we are a minority on XDA.
May settle for the Note5, will have to find time to go play with one in the store soon..
Otherwise I'll flip an iPhone 6S for the N6P... Ugh.
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
I see. Can anyone here tell me if it's valid to think you could completely replace a notebook and take notes in an 8 hour class day with the n5?
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I say no. It may just be my writing, but I can only fit maybe 4-5 legible words across the screen in portrait mode, which makes for a lot of +New notes, or one lonnnnnnng one.
I've had my fun with it, but I am realizing it's just not convenient to try and pack a tablet into a phone, and use a phablet as a phone. I am now leaning more towards having a tablet for actual writing on, and a phone I can use easily in one hand for texting/emailing/calling.

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