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LG optimus 2x best stable kernel + rom?

Hey XDA
My friend is just a casual person who dont know anything about smartphones/especially not roms/kernels.
He've an o2x and have several problems with it.
The stock rom is slow(havent tried 2.3 though, since it isnt possible to root then) and his currently ROM, CM7, isnt too stable - he keep loosing internet connection, the flash app crashes, and several FCs(and yeah, I've tried reinstalling and fix permissions and stuff like that)
So atm I am looking for a good and completely stable ROM for his o2x, since he is tired of all the problems.
What can you suggest? - Is the new 2.3 worth it, or is there a better rom? - I have to mention, his CM7 rom is 1 month old, so it isnt up-to-date.
I am personally using SGSII so I dont know anything at all about O2X, so I have to ask you guys.
Thanks in advance!

Well, I think that if you wanna go custom, you must be in the touch with updates.
There is pretty good custom rom`s and kernel out there, but if you just want to install and forget (no backuping, flashing, restoring...), I would go with stock rom, 2.3. is ok.
Everyone have their favorite, mine is: stock 20L, rooted, with custom Spica`s HP Kernel and Performance Pack and there is no problems with phone and Spica gives boost to stock rom.
There is some interesting poll too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350761

Memhis said:
Well, I think that if you wanna go custom, you must be in the touch with updates.
There is pretty good custom rom`s and kernel out there, but if you just want to install and forget (no backuping, flashing, restoring...), I would go with stock rom, 2.3. is ok.
Everyone have their favorite, mine is: stock 20L, rooted, with custom Spica`s HP Kernel and Performance Pack and there is no problems with phone and Spica gives boost to stock rom.
There is some interesting poll too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350761
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As I said, I dont know much about o2x, since it is not my phone, but is there any problems with 2.3? Is it faster than 2.2 and have they fix'ed all the FC he got with 2.2?
The problem is that, if I unroot and update to 2.3 I can't get back, so therefore I want to be 100% sure.
I know I have to keep it updated, and I will do that, just not 100% updated all the time. But if the rom and kernel is stable, its no big deal.
Thank you for your answer, I will wait to decide after a few more replies
edit: thx for the link, I will check it out asap!
It looks like CM7 is the right choice though...Maybe I should just update it and see if it fix his problems?

CM7 is the only one what I have not tried from the list, lol.
What do you think that you can`t go back? You can do with your phone everything you want . You can go to 2.3 then flash back to 2.2. Rooting is not a problem, there is very good guide how to do that, if you have a backup to flash. And there are all versions of stock roms to download.

Memhis said:
CM7 is the only one what I have not tried from the list, lol.
What do you think that you can`t go back? You can do with your phone everything you want . You can go to 2.3 then flash back to 2.2. Rooting is not a problem, there is very good guide how to do that, if you have a backup to flash. And there are all versions of stock roms to download.
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Well I've seen several people talking about that you can't root the 2.3 firmware.
Yeah you can downgrade ofc, forgot that. I downgraded a Desire Z, which was srsly tough. I guess it is hard to do with o2x too? (maybe a link to guide )

How to root 2.3 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327599
All info about rom, kernels and etc. can be found in development section, all what you need to do is some searching and reading.

Memhis said:
How to root 2.3 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327599
All info about rom, kernels and etc. can be found in development section, all what you need to do is some searching and reading.
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Thank you.
Other suggestions to stable roms/kernels?

I think the best way is that you try some roms by yourself. When you have done this one time its very easy and next time you can do it much faster. I'm testing GR5 at the moment. Its realesed today for everybody.
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And if you are not satisfied with performance you can flash a new kernel like spica's.

Rallerbabz said:
Thank you.
Other suggestions to stable roms/kernels?
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i installed miui yesterday it seems pretty good n way faster than the stock froyo
couldnt test the stock 2.3 as it wasnt available yet when i last checked for updates

I have tested probably every rom on this forum and in my opinion CM 7.1 stable is the best choice. Since yesterday i'm testing miui 1.11.18 and it seems to be very good as well. No freezes and bsods so far. But miui is based on CM so it has to be good With the SwiftExtreme kernel it's really fast. Battery is also good on both of them - much better then stock 2.3.
Sent from P990!

[Q] ICS overview

Hi can anyone explain to me how is the current situation of ICS roms for N1?
In particular i'd like to know which roms are available, if they need to install blackrose, if they support hwa, any other relevant note and opinion
thanks a lot and sorry for my bad english

alakin said:
Hi can anyone explain to me how is the current situation of ICS roms for N1?
In particular i'd like to know which roms are available, if they need to install blackrose, if they support hwa, any other relevant note and opinion
thanks a lot and sorry for my bad english
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There are 2 main builds right now in the development forum...Texacice's build based on Evervolv AOSP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366897....and BCM based on CM9 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557606...both are great in their own right and personal preference will dictate which you use. Both have functioning HWA...have for a while now and both require BR partitions of 220 10 16...or close to that. There are a couple ICS roms out there that dont need a new boot partition, but frankly I wouldnt bother, as they are not complete full ICS roms. The only major functionality missing currently is video recording...although that looks to be close to fixed also. You can actually flash a new boot partition via recovery without installing blackrose. See this thread....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1637166...and select the ICS partition and flash in recovery prior to installing new rom.

Correction: you do need BlackRose for that.

if u want to flash ICS roms. u need to first knw abt Blackrose. read it carefully before proceeding
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1270589
Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk

ok thanks a lot to everyone, you all have been very helpful. these 2 roms mentioned are both "final" roms right? they're not beta, RC or whatever, aside form video recording that is annoying but i can live without it
btw i have root but i have the bootloader locked. can i still install br and do all the other stuff?

yes u can install with locked bootloader.
no they are not RC or beta releases. they are not final aswell, the devs are really working hard and pushing regular updates to make the rom better and complete.
Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk

Camera not working HTC One

i recently flashed Faux123's M7 (UV/Intelliplug/dfsync/FauxSound/s2w/Hybrid Linux 3.4+) [May-25] Kernel using TWRP. Now after checking everything else out, everything is in full working order except the Camera's. This is extremely upsetting because although I've been in the android modding scene for nearly a year now, ive never encountered this problem, nor do i know what to do. If anyone can offer help or links to help, I'd appreciate it very much. Thank You in advance.

There's a camera fix that's needed for roms running the 1.29 and higher firmware. It should be in the aroma installer if not, then somewhere in the thread
Sent from my Tricked out HTC One

Squirrel1620 said:
There's a camera fix that's needed for roms running the 1.29 and higher firmware. It should be in the aroma installer if not, then somewhere in the thread
Sent from my Tricked out HTC One
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My software # is 1.26.502.12 will it work for that? And where can i find the installer?

Oh yes
i should also mention im running stock Sense 5 w/ 4.1.2 and tried flashing both listed camera fixes in the Fauxkernel thread to no avail. This is the biggest pain ever, and i am finding many other people are having this problem too.

Toxicoblivion said:
My software # is 1.26.502.12 will it work for that? And where can i find the installer?
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Are you trying to run a custom kernel on a stock ROM? If so, there's might be your problem. Further, stop doing that--it's a very bad idea.

unremarked said:
Are you trying to run a custom kernel on a stock ROM? If so, there's might be your problem. Further, stop doing that--it's a very bad idea.
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Yeah I am. Any stable custom ROMs you suggest for me to try? And supposedly it was only changing the Liboemcamera.so file or something like that. It doesn't matter though. I figured out that restoring it to a backup I made before I flashed the kernel fixed it. But now I have the problem I did before, with not being able to OC or especially UV and Fast Charge. As you know, this phones battery dies fast, and in the short time I was using Faux's kernel with UV/FC its battery life already had drastic improvements. So, can you help me get something stable like that?
Sent from my HTC One

Toxicoblivion said:
Yeah I am. Any stable custom ROMs you suggest for me to try? And supposedly it was only changing the Liboemcamera.so file or something like that. It doesn't matter though. I figured out that restoring it to a backup I made before I flashed the kernel fixed it. But now I have the problem I did before, with not being able to OC or especially UV and Fast Charge. As you know, this phones battery dies fast, and in the short time I was using Faux's kernel with UV/FC its battery life already had drastic improvements. So, can you help me get something stable like that?
Sent from my HTC One
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Honestly, I'm surprised your phone booted without an issue. I've seen other folks who've flashed custom kernels on stock ROMs and be stuck in bootloops from hell.
TrickDroid and ARHD are both fantastic and I've frequently used both. They're also both running on Android 4.2.2, so they're the absolute latest you can get. ARHD focuses on refining and bettering the stock experience as much as possible without much changes. TrickDroid also has a stock look, but it lets you customize things a little more like the battery icon, clock location, etc. It's more your typical custom ROM, but it's not typical in it's awesomeness.

Thank god I'm so lucky. I never saw these problems in the forums for the kernels... No warnings, no instructions. I just followed the ones I remembered from my flashing days with the GS3.
I can find both of those on the forums, correct? And which do you prefer as a daily driver? Which one can I keep until stable CM10.1 comes out? Or maybe might want to keep even past that?
Sent from my HTC One

Toxicoblivion said:
Thank god I'm so lucky. I never saw these problems in the forums for the kernels... No warnings, no instructions. I just followed the ones I remembered from my flashing days with the GS3.
I can find both of those on the forums, correct? And which do you prefer as a daily driver? Which one can I keep until stable CM10.1 comes out? Or maybe might want to keep even past that?
Sent from my HTC One
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I bounce between these forums and the AT&T One forums trying to help folks out so I'm not sure where I first started seeing the stock ROM/custom kernel issues. Also I may spend too much time on these forums... >_>
Regardless, I'm a flashaholic. I swapped between ARHD and TrickDroid quite regularly. ARHD seems to be updated a lot quicker, probably due to the fact that it's tweaked less than TrickDroid. The fact that Mike has been around forever too probably helps. I don't know Torxx's work quite as well. That being said, I prefer TrickDroid over ARHD because of a couple tweaks that I like such as SMS screen on, center clock, and replacing the battery icon with a numbered percentage. Not sure if those tweaks are in yet, though, since the change to 4.2.2
Just a head's up on the AOSP front, there's been alot of reports that AOSP-based ROMs are having issues with the camera. Not that it isn't working mind you but that it's taking absolutely absymal shots. This is likely because HTC baked in some software magic to improve the the image quality and those features are missing from AOSP. I wouldn't use an AOSP ROM as my daily driver until the HTC One Google Edition has been released and hopefully it will have that software magic. Figured you'd like to know since the title of this thread is regarding the camera. :

Alrite well, cool. I think I'll check out ARHD tomorrow when I get home from finals. And thanks for the foresight on the AOSP, I doubt that I would've thought of that before hand. Don't wanna lose this camera, its beautiful. xD Anyways, I'll PM you tomorrow with an update on how that ROM works out or if I have questions before hand. For now, goodnight, and thanks for all your help!!!!
Sent from my HTC One

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Toxicoblivion said:
Alrite well, cool. I think I'll check out ARHD tomorrow when I get home from finals. And thanks for the foresight on the AOSP, I doubt that I would've thought of that before hand. Don't wanna lose this camera, its beautiful. xD Anyways, I'll PM you tomorrow with an update on how that ROM works out or if I have questions before hand. For now, goodnight, and thanks for all your help!!!!
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I need a cam fix for this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40819216&postcount=2
My details:
Android-Version: 4.1.2
HTC Sense: 5.0
Software: 1.29.401.16
Kernel: 3.4.10

Camera not working
Same here, bit new to this whole ROM thing, but basically I need full OTG support on my HTC One - So I can use DroidPlanner and my USB stick that talks to my Quadcopter - if I plug it in with the stock HTC, it pops up with "unsupported device. Now using the 4.0 rom you linked too and the OTG works fine, but now the camera just shows as a black screen... My HTC One (International) has software version 1.29.980.17 . not sure if that's the problem?
any help appreciated
syntax412 said:
I need a cam fix for this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40819216&postcount=2
My details:
Android-Version: 4.1.2
HTC Sense: 5.0
Software: 1.29.401.16
Kernel: 3.4.10
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boardnz said:
Same here, bit new to this whole ROM thing, but basically I need full OTG support on my HTC One - So I can use DroidPlanner and my USB stick that talks to my Quadcopter - if I plug it in with the stock HTC, it pops up with "unsupported device. Now using the 4.0 rom you linked too and the OTG works fine, but now the camera just shows as a black screen... My HTC One (International) has software version 1.29.980.17 . not sure if that's the problem?
any help appreciated
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From what i understand, OTG is based on kernel, not ROM. And this is definitely not the thread to post this on. Use Tbaldens kernel for sense or GE, and thatll be your best bet.
AT&T HTC One
ARHD 11.5
Tbalden Perf Kernel 2.1.3 UV/OC/UC

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Thanks Toxicoblivion
Yes I'm running - teaMseven_kernel_SENSE 4.0 . The OTG is working fine with this kernel (sorry got ROM and kernel mixed up).
I tried to post a reply to that thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255160 , but get this stupid message below and as you will see it clearly tells me to ask about this in the General Q&A, so i'm pretty sure I'm in the right place to ask about "HTC One camera not working"?
"boardnz, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
Remember, your question has very likely been asked already, so please search before posting.
Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
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Yes, youre in the right section, but your question has nothing to do with a camera problem. You should make your own thread (you are allowed in General & Q+A with the <10 post restriction) and title it correctly, as it will give you publicity to the people who roam those forums trying to help people in need. Im not saying i wont help (obviously i will) just, for the future. I might not be able to help with everything. Dont post on a random thread. Create your own! and if your kernel works fine, then enjoy your phone!
AT&T HTC One
ARHD 11.5
Tbalden Perf Kernel 2.1.3 UV/OC/UC

@boardnz
AT&T HTC One
ARHD 11.5
Tbalden Perf Kernel 2.1.3 UV/OC/UC

[Q] Query regarding ROOTING

Basic info about my device:
Model : HTC Incredible S
Android Version : 4.0.4
HTC sense version : 3.6
Software number : 4.12.720.1
I have started to feel that my phone is getting slow and I read about the benefits of rooting. So, I am planning to root my device. While going through the online tutorials, I came to know that once I root it, I won't get updates from HTC and there are also some risks of ending up with a bricked phone. Some posts said that after the recent android update, the old methods of rooting won't work.
Can someone please post a link or method of rooting my device in easiest way possible? I'd also like to know whether android version/looks will remain same after rooting? As per posts, I won't be able to get HTC updates. What are my options of staying updated in case my device supports new android versions? I kinda like the UI of my phone. Is it possible to root my phone without altering anything else?
Detailed answers would be better.

zwitter said:
Basic info about my device:
Model : HTC Incredible S
Android Version : 4.0.4
HTC sense version : 3.6
Software number : 4.12.720.1
I have started to feel that my phone is getting slow and I read about the benefits of rooting. So, I am planning to root my device. While going through the online tutorials, I came to know that once I root it, I won't get updates from HTC and there are also some risks of ending up with a bricked phone. Some posts said that after the recent android update, the old methods of rooting won't work.
Can someone please post a link or method of rooting my device in easiest way possible? I'd also like to know whether android version/looks will remain same after rooting? As per posts, I won't be able to get HTC updates. What are my options of staying updated in case my device supports new android versions? I kinda like the UI of my phone. Is it possible to root my phone without altering anything else?
Detailed answers would be better.
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There won't be any more updates from HTC that's for sure. I mean I once read that HTC plans on stopping the One X after 4.2.2. I think HTC was already extremely generous to give us 4.0.4. Besides, Sense 3.6 is the crappy version of Sense 4 anyways and Sense 4 looks nicer in almost every aspect in my opinion.
Rooting is as basic unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev.com and flashing a custom recovery. However, you will notice that some people have something called S-OFF. Unlike just unlocking the bootloader (which still leaves S-ON), S-OFF grants you permission to certain parts of a particular partition (which I don't seem to remember but what I say here should be enough) and in that way, you do not need to flash the boot.img within each custom ROM (which is probably, the biggest limitation of leaving your phone at S-ON). This is quite a bit to swallow but you'll understand more as you go along rooting and flashing custom ROM plus a bit of Google searching on the side.
As for guides, look at the top of the General Section (you're in it right now!) and everything that's labelled [GUIDE] should be good to use.
To answer the last question, yes it is possible to root the phone and leaving everything as is although there is absolutely no point in doing so. Unlocking the bootloader WILL WIPE your phone clean (ie game data, sms, call logs.....). It would be best to just start fresh. If you are so intent on staying on Sense 3.6, then I would recommend you to either Android Revolution HD or Blackout ROM which you can find more information on in the Android Development section.

072665995 said:
There won't be any more updates from HTC that's for sure. I mean I once read that HTC plans on stopping the One X after 4.2.2. I think HTC was already extremely generous to give us 4.0.4. Besides, Sense 3.6 is the crappy version of Sense 4 anyways and Sense 4 looks nicer in almost every aspect in my opinion.
Rooting is as basic unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev.com and flashing a custom recovery. However, you will notice that some people have something called S-OFF. Unlike just unlocking the bootloader (which still leaves S-ON), S-OFF grants you permission to certain parts of a particular partition (which I don't seem to remember but what I say here should be enough) and in that way, you do not need to flash the boot.img within each custom ROM (which is probably, the biggest limitation of leaving your phone at S-ON). This is quite a bit to swallow but you'll understand more as you go along rooting and flashing custom ROM plus a bit of Google searching on the side.
As for guides, look at the top of the General Section (you're in it right now!) and everything that's labelled [GUIDE] should be good to use.
To answer the last question, yes it is possible to root the phone and leaving everything as is although there is absolutely no point in doing so. Unlocking the bootloader WILL WIPE your phone clean (ie game data, sms, call logs.....). It would be best to just start fresh. If you are so intent on staying on Sense 3.6, then I would recommend you to either Android Revolution HD or Blackout ROM which you can find more information on in the Android Development section.
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Thanks for the reply.
Well, I gave a thought and I don't plan to stick to the sense 3.6 looks coz sense 4 will definitely be better. Can you suggest a good ROM for me? I have heard about Cyanogen Mod. What's your opinion regarding that? They have provided full tutorial for flashing their recent ROM. Does that also mean that I will get the superuser access or do I need to do something extra?

zwitter said:
Thanks for the reply.
Well, I gave a thought and I don't plan to stick to the sense 3.6 looks coz sense 4 will definitely be better. Can you suggest a good ROM for me? I have heard about Cyanogen Mod. What's your opinion regarding that? They have provided full tutorial for flashing their recent ROM. Does that also mean that I will get the superuser access or do I need to do something extra?
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Well, if you want so stick with Sense, you should try out ViperVIVO and Nik's Project X best Sense Based ROMs I know

Gizmo648 said:
Well, if you want so stick with Sense, you should try out ViperVIVO and Nik's Project X best Sense Based ROMs I know
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I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?

zwitter said:
I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?
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I never tried this one, i thought you want to use Sense?

zwitter said:
I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?
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Depends on what you're looking for really. CyanVivo10.1 is Android 4.2.2. Id say I'm only using CyanVivo10.1 for the sole purpose of having a theme engine plus theres always more free RAM on AOSP ROMs which Id like since multitasking its pretty essential to me.
However in terms of battery and overall performance Id have to ViperVivo is best. Nik Project_X_Rebirth is also a very good choice but the lock screen ticks me off -.- My favourite Sense ROM is either Blackout or KingCobra although the latter has had reports of not booting past the splash screen for a number of people.

I don't think HTC is generous when it comes to sending updates. There's no official JB release for the Sensation. The Galaxy S2 got it though. Typical HTC...
Sent from one of the surviving Incredible S phones of the past

zukri90 said:
I don't think HTC is generous when it comes to sending updates. There's no official JB release for the Sensation. The Galaxy S2 got it though. Typical HTC...
Sent from one of the surviving Incredible S phones of the past
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Has it ever occured to you that the S II probably has a CPU that natively supports ion?? And that's why they have Jellybean where as the Sensation does not?? HTC isn't gonna work their bums off to get a device to support ion when they have the newer phones such as the HOX and the One.

072665995 said:
Has it ever occured to you that the S II probably has a CPU that natively supports ion?? And that's why they have Jellybean where as the Sensation does not?? HTC isn't gonna work their bums off to get a device to support ion when they have the newer phones such as the HOX and the One.
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All I know is HTC's customer service is not as good as Samsung's.
Sent from one of the surviving Incredible S phones of the past

zwitter said:
Basic info about my device:
Model : HTC Incredible S
Android Version : 4.0.4
HTC sense version : 3.6
Software number : 4.12.720.1
I have started to feel that my phone is getting slow and I read about the benefits of rooting. So, I am planning to root my device. While going through the online tutorials, I came to know that once I root it, I won't get updates from HTC and there are also some risks of ending up with a bricked phone. Some posts said that after the recent android update, the old methods of rooting won't work.
Can someone please post a link or method of rooting my device in easiest way possible? I'd also like to know whether android version/looks will remain same after rooting? As per posts, I won't be able to get HTC updates. What are my options of staying updated in case my device supports new android versions? I kinda like the UI of my phone. Is it possible to root my phone without altering anything else?
Detailed answers would be better.
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okay, after reading your statement, I have to tell you a thing, rooting out HTC IncS which running on Android 4.0.4+Sense 3.6 is impossible (guys, correct me if I'm wrong) If you want to root it, you have to downgrade it back to Android 2.3.5, which is a VERY troublesome thing.. here's a guide might help you understand something about rooting our HTC IncS! >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987687

jacksonpang said:
okay, after reading your statement, I have to tell you a thing, rooting out HTC IncS which running on Android 4.0.4+Sense 3.6 is impossible (guys, correct me if I'm wrong) If you want to root it, you have to downgrade it back to Android 2.3.5, which is a VERY troublesome thing.. here's a guide might help you understand something about rooting our HTC IncS! >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987687
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rooting and S-OFF are not the same thing. Rooting is just unlock bootloader and flash custom recovery. That is certainly possible on any android OS. S-OFF on the other hand, you need to downgrade back to 2.3.3 (in order to get HBOOT 1.13) and then run revolutionary to get S-OFF

jacksonpang said:
okay, after reading your statement, I have to tell you a thing, rooting out HTC IncS which running on Android 4.0.4+Sense 3.6 is impossible (guys, correct me if I'm wrong) If you want to root it, you have to downgrade it back to Android 2.3.5, which is a VERY troublesome thing.. here's a guide might help you understand something about rooting our HTC IncS! >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987687
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Sorry, but it is possible to gain root access on the HTC ICS/Sense 3.6 ROM without the downgrading option that you referenced.
Unlocking the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com will allow you to install a custom recovery such as CWM or 4EXT and then you can flash SuperSu which will allow apps to request root access. With a custom recovery in place, a user can also flash a custom ROM, but the drawback is that /boot partition is mounted R/O in recovery mode, so you manually have to flash the boot.img of the custom ROM in FASTBOOT USB mode.
Gaining S-OFF is another form of 'unlocking' the bootloader and giving you full access to all of the partitions as well as the radio. S-OFF by itself does not necessarily provide your apps with root access. That is dependent on the ROM that is installed.

072665995 said:
rooting and S-OFF are not the same thing. Rooting is just unlock bootloader and flash custom recovery. That is certainly possible on any android OS. S-OFF on the other hand, you need to downgrade back to 2.3.3 (in order to get HBOOT 1.13) and then run revolutionary to get S-OFF
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Oops, yes, you're right! S-off would need to roll back to Gingerbread, while rooting doesn't need. I mixed it up :silly:

zwitter said:
I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?
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CyanVIVO 10.1 is amazingly fast and smooth. Although, don't expect the same battery life as sense, as cm is not optimized for or phone.
If you want sense, Nik Rebirth is pretty good.
I personally hate sense as it is ugly, but it has its benefits such as battery life and more widgets.
Gizmo648 said:
Well, if you want so stick with Sense, you should try out ViperVIVO and Nik's Project X best Sense Based ROMs I know
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Don't go for ViperVIVO because
a) The download link has been removed
b) And even if you do find the link somehow, Team Venom have officially stopped supporting or device, so don't expect any updates soon.
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LamboBull said:
CyanVIVO 10.1 is amazingly fast and smooth. Although, don't expect the same battery life as sense, as cm is not optimized for or phone.
If you want sense, Nik Rebirth is pretty good.
I personally hate sense as it is ugly, but it has its benefits such as battery life and more widgets.
Don't go for ViperVIVO because
a) The download link has been removed
b) And even if you do find the link somehow, Team Venom have officially stopped supporting or device, so don't expect any updates soon.
Click thanks if I helped you out!
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Uh no, the download link is still there. Nevertheless its still a great ROM with virtually no bugs so the only thing you could be improving is battery life and performance and if you still want more then you would be very greedy to do so because it already performs well in both.

072665995 said:
However in terms of battery and overall performance Id have to ViperVivo is best. Nik Project_X_Rebirth is also a very good choice but the lock screen ticks me off -.- My favourite Sense ROM is either Blackout or KingCobra although the latter has had reports of not booting past the splash screen for a number of people.
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lol I never got king cobra to boot
About lockscreen: push the lockscreen from a previous version and fusion.apk cause that is where the lock ring hides. I am not a fan of the new layout either so that is what I did
zukri90 said:
I don't think HTC is generous when it comes to sending updates. There's no official JB release for the Sensation. The Galaxy S2 got it though. Typical HTC...
Sent from one of the surviving Incredible S phones of the past
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GS2 is like half done, yes its there but it is not very good. There are still UI elements from ICS and even GB and half the things stop working
072665995 said:
Has it ever occured to you that the S II probably has a CPU that natively supports ion?? And that's why they have Jellybean where as the Sensation does not?? HTC isn't gonna work their bums off to get a device to support ion when they have the newer phones such as the HOX and the One.
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Nup your argument doesn't work cause VilleC2 (One S with snapdragon s3) has JB Sense
It has the exact same chipset as the Sensation but runs at a higher clock. Its got a linux 3.4 kernel with JB Sense from HTC so it definitely supports it.

LamboBull said:
CyanVIVO 10.1 is amazingly fast and smooth. Although, don't expect the same battery life as sense, as cm is not optimized for or phone.
If you want sense, Nik Rebirth is pretty good.
I personally hate sense as it is ugly, but it has its benefits such as battery life and more widgets.
Don't go for ViperVIVO because
a) The download link has been removed
b) And even if you do find the link somehow, Team Venom have officially stopped supporting or device, so don't expect any updates soon.
Click thanks if I helped you out!
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I know that, but I still use the ROM, most customizable and Full sense :3
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

072665995 said:
Uh no, the download link is still there. Nevertheless its still a great ROM with virtually no bugs so the only thing you could be improving is battery life and performance and if you still want more then you would be very greedy to do so because it already performs well in both.
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I see the links are still up. But I said that there are not going to be updates, which apart from improvements, include new features. Don't get too defensive bro
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[Q] Which roms and kernel should I use

Hello
It's been a while since I've got my htc one and I was waiting for the release of the stock 4.3 firmware before going into the custom world. Unfortunately, it's been quite some times now and I'm pretty tired of waiting.
So which rom should I take as a daily driver.. I'd like to be able to control tv (so I think I need to look into stock based roms?)
I'd also like to put a custom kernel and to be sure there is no problem betwen the rom and the kernel
So I was thinking about Android revolution and elementalx (no **** ahah) or can you suggest some?
is there a big chance that android revolution will be updated to 4.3?
(I'm still on 4.1.2)
Thank you!
Ps. What's s rev-on?

This thread's probably going to get closed because some people here are a little sensitive about people asking for ROM suggestions, but before it does... I LOVE ARHD and Elimentalx kernel lol. They're both super srabel, which on a phone like this with its awesome stock set up is a necessity for me... There's just no incentives for me to flash a custom ROM that's gonna be anything but perfect when stock is so close to perfect itself...
I get great battery life, performance, and stability. So that's my suggestion
And if you're talking about s-on, that means that certain partitions of your internal memory are still locked... You can still flash a custom rom, but you wouldn't be able to update your firmware or anything like that without getting s-off first.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app

Morganmachine91 said:
This thread's probably going to get closed because some people here are a little sensitive about people asking for ROM suggestions, but before it does... I LOVE ARHD and Elimentalx kernel lol. They're both super srabel, which on a phone like this with its awesome stock set up is a necessity for me... There's just no incentives for me to flash a custom ROM that's gonna be anything but perfect when stock is so close to perfect itself...
I get great battery life, performance, and stability. So that's my suggestion
And if you're talking about s-on, that means that certain partitions of your internal memory are still locked... You can still flash a custom rom, but you wouldn't be able to update your firmware or anything like that without getting s-off first.
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You can update your firmware without S-Off. Android Revolution is stable because it's boring, just like stock. I'd recommend Viper Rom due to the vast customisation options, and it's just as stable. As for the kernel, stock kernel is best for most people. It's the perfect blend between battery and performance. Custom kernels such as ElementalX overclocked to 1.8/9GHz will give better performance but will drain your battery faster.
Everything can be done without S-Off. All S-Off is good for is changing your CID, MID, removing tampered from boot loader, and easily unlocking/locking without wiping anything or alerting HTC to your request of an unlock token.

the best rom is stock and the best kernel is stock. you sound like a man who will end up with a brick so i'd stick with stock

Matt said:
You can update your firmware without S-Off. Android Revolution is stable because it's boring, just like stock. I'd recommend Viper Rom due to the vast customisation options, and it's just as stable. As for the kernel, stock kernel is best for most people. It's the perfect blend between battery and performance. Custom kernels such as ElementalX overclocked to 1.8/9GHz will give better performance but will drain your battery faster.
Everything can be done without S-Off. All S-Off is good for is changing your CID, MID, removing tampered from boot loader, and easily unlocking/locking without wiping anything or alerting HTC to your request of an unlock token.
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I flashed viper and messed around with it for a couple days and it was just a little too stuttery and I had apps force closing every once in a while... Tried a clean wipe, and still a couple problems.. Nothing huge or intolerable, I just value performance over the colorful theming and fun appearance settings of viper, but that's just my opinion and experience ... Everyone is different.
And I wouldn't worry about bricking... Being stuck on 4.1 sucks lol so if you wanna stay close to stock, arhd with stock kernel is the way to go. As long as you stay s-off and don't mess with your hboot (and always read read read before you do anything) you'll be fine.
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Thank you for your reply ahah
Well so I'm like a noob because of my poor skills with english then...
I don't mind going with miui or cm10.. but I really love the remote control app ahh
Also, I want to do the s-off thing because.. I'd like to install ubuntu when it will be stable enough ahah
And i'd like to have the s2w function
Oh! I'm also very tired of the touch menu button on the bottom of many app... Dunno if stock have solved this tough.
Thanks again!

cloud1250000 said:
Hello
It's been a while since I've got my htc one and I was waiting for the release of the stock 4.3 firmware before going into the custom world. Unfortunately, it's been quite some times now and I'm pretty tired of waiting.
So which rom should I take as a daily driver.. I'd like to be able to control tv (so I think I need to look into stock based roms?)
I'd also like to put a custom kernel and to be sure there is no problem betwen the rom and the kernel
So I was thinking about Android revolution and elementalx (no **** ahah) or can you suggest some?
is there a big chance that android revolution will be updated to 4.3?
(I'm still on 4.1.2)
Thank you!
Ps. What's s rev-on?
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if you want no problems then you have to stick to stock kernels and rom.
android revolution is just another fancy name of a stock rom with minor tweaks Incorporated from other developers (such as APM). so thats the only rom which might fit your needs and has stock kernel too. actually there is nothing which is revolutionary in that rom... lol.
note : i am not a hater of that rom, but there is nothing i like about it too and it did sound funny so i wrote. anyways chill out arhd lovers .

IINexusII said:
the best rom is stock and the best kernel is stock. you sound like a man who will end up with a brick so i'd stick with stock
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I found this extremely funny. Anyways, I suggest getting ARHD with its stock kernel. Personally, I like GE roms but I cannot overclock on 4.3 because elementalx is not out .

cloud1250000 said:
Thank you for your reply ahah
Well so I'm like a noob because of my poor skills with english then...
I don't mind going with miui or cm10.. but I really love the remote control app ahh
Also, I want to do the s-off thing because.. I'd like to install ubuntu when it will be stable enough ahah
And i'd like to have the s2w function
Oh! I'm also very tired of the touch menu button on the bottom of many app... Dunno if stock have solved this tough.
Thanks again!
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lol.. and miui .. cm and ubuntu will never be stable.
cm is just for flasholics.. and it might not fit your needs
i doubt miui will ever be stable on this phone and ubuntu is just out of question.
stick with stock, enjoy life and have beers.

ryanfsdf said:
I found this extremely funny. Anyways, I suggest getting ARHD with its stock kernel. Personally, I like GE roms but I cannot overclock on 4.3 because elementalx is not out .
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yeah ok if the OP REALLY wants to do it and knows what he's getting into, then id recommend ARHD.
i'd recommend S-OFF first, then it gives options later

So Ubuntu touch will never be good on this phone :/ sad news ahah
Okay... I'll stick with stock roms then or arhd... I do like aosp roms too... But since nobody suggested one.. seems like I need to use stock to fully use this phone.. another sad news ahah...
Nofrills vs setcpu?
Anyway.. thank you then..

cloud1250000 said:
So Ubuntu touch will never be good on this phone :/ sad news ahah
Okay... I'll stick with stock roms then or arhd... I do like aosp roms too... But since nobody suggested one.. seems like I need to use stock to fully use this phone.. another sad news ahah...
Nofrills vs setcpu?
Anyway.. thank you then..
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get S-OFF first, then you can try ARHD 12.3...
and if you want logo2wake then i recommend tbaldens 2.1.5 kernel

I'm surprised my thread isn't closed yet.. but I'm happy since the htc one world is very different from the xperia ahah
and.. well ahah I didn't s-off since the only reason for me to s-off was to get ubuntu someday :/
Anyway, such a big difference in rom size vs the xperia play ahah 150mo for xplay vs 1go o,o
Thank you everyone for your reply

what's for S-OFF ? is it mandatory for installing custom rom ?
what's kernel ? what's the function, sorry for noob, I've read quite a lot threads on xda explaining this, but I don't get it in a simple way ??
still confuse....