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Blocking update?

Just received my Moto X AT&T shipped from Costco, system version is 139.9.51.ghost_ATT.en.US -so would appear I can root? (and then hopefully take the update without losing root? I recall seeing a thread, hopefully for the version I have)
Can the update be "pushed" onto the device without my accepting it, as to whether I would need to root (if I wanted to root) quickly to block it?
Thanks

M973 said:
Just received my Moto X AT&T shipped from Costco, system version is 139.9.51.ghost_ATT.en.US -so would appear I can root? (and then hopefully take the update without losing root? I recall seeing a thread, hopefully for the version I have)
Can the update be "pushed" onto the device without my accepting it, as to whether I would need to root (if I wanted to root) quickly to block it?
Thanks
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no but you will get continual pop ups unless you the phone then disable motorola ota 1.0 and updater.apk (i think just updater.apk will suffice) with Titanium back up.

jayboyyyy said:
no but you will get continual pop ups unless you the phone then disable motorola ota 1.0 and updater.apk (i think just updater.apk will suffice) with Titanium back up.
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Thanks, I thought that was the case, but wanted to confirm quickly (with some, SGS4, it's pushed to the phone whether you accept or not, unless you're rooted.)
Thanks for the quick reply

M973 said:
Thanks, I thought that was the case, but wanted to confirm quickly (with some, SGS4, it's pushed to the phone whether you accept or not, unless you're rooted.)
Thanks for the quick reply
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not sure if it downloads it automatically or not (i don't think it does but it may). Even if it does download automatically it won't update it unless you click ok when it prompts you. I would root and disable OTiA until you figure out what you are going to do about it.

rooting
looks like it's either with PwnMyMoto, or Motoroot, appears the first is better? Looks like both are done with ADB which was a bit difficult, have only used it once, used it to remove safestrap from the SGS4 I had so I could return it

M973 said:
looks like it's either with PwnMyMoto, or Motoroot, appears the first is better? Looks like both are done with ADB which was a bit difficult, have only used it once, used it to remove safestrap from the SGS4 I had so I could return it
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You can just install pwnmymoto on your device and run it. Make sure to have unknown sources checked
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Also it is wise to get familiar with adb and fastboot!

shane1 said:
You can just install pwnmymoto on your device and run it. Make sure to have unknown sources checked
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Also it is wise to get familiar with adb and fastboot!
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Cool, thanks!

Three questions regarding root and the OTA

So, I got my Moto X on Verizon today. The OTA started downloading already. Luckily, I turned off all data before it could finish downloading (it's at 8% now). Obviously, I can't connect to data 'cause it will automatically start to download.
I want to root though. I know I'm supposed to use PwnMyMoto. However, I know that the OTA breaks root. I've read around all the posts--and I can't seem to find a conclusive way to keep root on the OTA after gaining it; each post I read says something different.
Additional piece of info: I don't care about anything regarding custom ROMs or the bootloader. I intend to keep the stock ROM, but use Xposed.
So, my three questions:
1) Is it okay to root even though the download of the OTA has started?
2) What is the conclusive way to keep root for the OTA?
3) After rooting, how would I go about returning everything back to stock? (I plan on using this phone for a next week or so, then returning it--this is because of the price drops and MotoMaker for Verizon coming out soon; at this stage, I just want to know if this phone is right for me).
Thanks for all the help in advance.

Just boot into Recovery and wipe data\cache and dalvick this will reset your phone. Then resetup your phone, the OTA will come back up, tell the OTA to REMIND you about it, not download it. Then use pwnmymoto to get root, and then just freeze the OTA downloader (MotorolaOTA.apk). Continue to use your phone, customize it with xposed etc etc. When you want to return it, use RSDLite and flash the stock FXZ file to it its totally back to stock again out of the box.

Am I too late?
I have the update on my phone, but would want to root it. I have the moto x on verizon it's not the developers edition.

No need to wipe data. You can root while the download goes then install ROM toolbox and delete the update from your cache and freeze the moto updater.apk and updater.apk to stop the notification. As for.rooting the update I think jcase said install pwnmymoto but don't run it then update. But IMO its not worth it cause if anything gets messed up you get updated and loose the opportunity to root.
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enigmaco said:
I have the update on my phone, but would want to root it. I have the moto x on verizon it's not the developers edition.
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If you installed the update your SOL. If its just downloaded your OK to root.

I ended up not accepting the update. I'm not going to either. If by the time I return this phone I deem it worthy of a replacement for my GNexus--then I'll worry about root and the OTA. This is awesome stuff.

shane1 said:
No need to wipe data. You can root while the download goes then install ROM toolbox and delete the update from your cache and freeze the moto updater.apk and updater.apk to stop the notification. As for.rooting the update I think jcase said install pwnmymoto but don't run it then update. But IMO its not worth it cause if anything gets messed up you get updated and loose the opportunity to root.
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If you installed the update your SOL. If its just downloaded your OK to root.
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Had a feeling oh well missed the boat again.

[Q] How to Unroot my Verizon G2?

I recently rooted my Verizon G2 with ioroot, Android version is currently 4.2.2. Now Verizon keeps pushing to update to 4.4.2, and reminds me every 12 hours to do so. The update fails, and I'm assuming because the phone is rooted. So I guess a couple questions:
(1) Is there a way to prevent it from asking for an update, and I'll just stick with 4.2.2?
(2) How do I "unroot" my phone? Is there a simple way to reverse the process, and also how do I root it when I get to 4.4.2?
Thanks!
EDIT: I saw this guide, just the title didn't sound like it was related to root, but at least I can try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729156
But I'd still like to see if there's a way to stay with 4.2.2 instead, do I really need 4.4.2?

HTWingNut said:
I recently rooted my Verizon G2 with ioroot, Android version is currently 4.2.2. Now Verizon keeps pushing to update to 4.4.2, and reminds me every 12 hours to do so. The update fails, and I'm assuming because the phone is rooted. So I guess a couple questions:
(1) Is there a way to prevent it from asking for an update, and I'll just stick with 4.2.2?
(2) How do I "unroot" my phone? Is there a simple way to reverse the process, and also how do I root it when I get to 4.4.2?
Thanks!
EDIT: I saw this guide, just the title didn't sound like it was related to root, but at least I can try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729156
But I'd still like to see if there's a way to stay with 4.2.2 instead, do I really need 4.4.2?
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You can use TitaniumBackup and freeze the OTA updater apk. I don't know the exact apk name so hopefully someone can chime in. Also you can do a full unroot by going into the SuperUser app and clicking on Full Unroot. It will do it's thing and you will reboot.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that root does NOT kill the OTA. You most likely have a custom recovery on your phone. That's why it fails. So all you have to do is just freeze the annoying updater apk and you should be good to go.

Thanks! I'll see if I can find the ota updater apk and freeze it.
Beamed from my G2 Tricorder

You could always just flash one of the 4.4.2 stock LG ROMs like Malladus or xdabbebs. If you have a custom recovery that is.

HTWingNut said:
Thanks! I'll see if I can find the ota updater apk and freeze it.
Beamed from my G2 Tricorder
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Please let us know if you find it...I am in the same boat and I cannot find what to freeze either.

System updates MUC 6.4.1.5_E02
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At least in xdabbeb's ROM
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Ok, I think I figured it out. MUC 6.4.1.5_E02 was disabled by default when I upgraded to Titanium Backup Pro.

root for vzw moto x 4.4.2?

While we wait for real root for 4.4.2...in the meantime, I wouldn't mind having root with write protection upon reboot. Could someone walk me through the process for that? I'm more than happy to reapply any changes when the phone is rebooted (which won't be too often, hopefully)

If you're already on 4.4.2....you can't root. Can't downgrade to do the safe strap method.
If you are on 4.2.2 or 4.4....then read the safe strap thread. Also there's a couple ROMs now that apparently root and disable write protection. But again, if you are already on 4.4.2....you can't do it.

I saw it mentioned in a thread that root could exist but with write protection. Is that not true?

terrorist96 said:
I saw it mentioned in a thread that root could exist but with write protection. Is that not true?
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You can't root on 4.4.2 period. There's no way. Simple as that.
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DroidOnRoids said:
You can't root on 4.4.2 period. There's no way. Simple as that.
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Guess I'll just wait

terrorist96 said:
Guess I'll just wait
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That's the only thing to do. It sucks because I'm stuck too.
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terrorist96 said:
I saw it mentioned in a thread that root could exist but with write protection. Is that not true?
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The only way was to have it on 4.4 before taking ota. I guess root survived with write protection enabled tho.
But already being on 4.4.2.....can't root now.

This is kinda weird. I was talking to Motorola via the help app and the representative was adamant in telling me that I am able to unlock my bootloader on the Verizon version. I even said that xda developers say it cannot be unlocked but he told me it was possible and to try it. He linked me here:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
Has anyone tried this?

terrorist96 said:
This is kinda weird. I was talking to Motorola via the help app and the representative was adamant in telling me that I am able to unlock my bootloader on the Verizon version. I even said that xda developers say it cannot be unlocked but he told me it was possible and to try it. He linked me here:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
Has anyone tried this?
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I think the rep told you wrong. According to this link (found on the page that you linked under the "Find Your Device" section) https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215, it only works with the Verizon Dev Edition. You can give it a go, but it will probably reject the attempt. If Verizon has changed their policy (highly doubtful) a lot of people would be extremely happy. Anyway, give it a shot. The worst that can happen is that it tells you that your device doesn't qualify.

Yeah, I even sent him that page saying that only the sprint, t-mobile and US Cellular versions can be unlocked. But I'll try this tomorrow. Anyone else can feel free to do so as well in the meantime.

kj2112 said:
The only way was to have it on 4.4 before taking ota. I guess root survived with write protection enabled tho.
But already being on 4.4.2.....can't root now.
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Correct.
If you were on 4.4, you could root and disable write protection. When you took the 4.4.2 OTA, write protection became re-enabled, but you kept root. Of course this meant any changes/installs/etc made to /system and the like since taking 4.4.2 would be lost at power off/on.
Once 4.4.2 is on your phone, you can't root, and you can't disable write protection, unless you have a developer edition, or a carrier edition like Sprint, T-Mobile, etc that Moto gives out the bootloader unlock codes on their web site for. Once you unlock the bootloader you can root and write protection is disabled, and this can be done no matter what rom is on the phone.
The bounty to unlock the bootloader for VZW/ATT (who can't get codes from moto's web site), has continued to grow. No one has found a way. Same with some older Moto's too. Same with the updated GS4 and GS5, and so on.... So the chances of seeing a bootloader unlock hack are fading. Root exploits seem to get patched with each new ROM update (to root 4.4, you had to downgrade and root 4.2.2), so that is getting harder.
To be realistic, the only way to ensure you can have root and write protection disabled is to buy a Developer Edition, or from a carrier that allows you to unlock the bootloader. Yup it can cost more, and you can't customize its look, but its a small trade off if you *NEED* working root no matter what rom comes on your phone. Its a trade off I had to make, but it was easier when I did it as I was paying full price (to keep my unlimited data), and the Dev Edition was the only 32gig option for Verizon at the time.
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terrorist96 said:
This is kinda weird. I was talking to Motorola via the help app and the representative was adamant in telling me that I am able to unlock my bootloader on the Verizon version. I even said that xda developers say it cannot be unlocked but he told me it was possible and to try it. He linked me here:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
Has anyone tried this?
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As @HeroOfTime has said, unless Moto has reversed their course of action, Verizon and ATT non-developer phones can not receive an unlock code via Moto's web site.
That is why there was such a big "to do" about the Chinese site that was selling codes not too long ago. (which has been shut down).
Once you try it. Please let us know. There are MANY who would be very happy if Moto has changed things!!

Well, I tried and got the expected error telling me that my device wasn't eligible. Guess that Motorola rep didn't know what she was talking about. I talked to someone else and they basically confirmed it, saying you can only do it on the Dev Edition on Verizon. :\

I'll just leave this right here.... PLEASE be smart and do not start spamming him with "ETA?" and other b.s. that will make him not want to share it. We are NOT entitled to his work. If he decides to share, he will. Leave it at that.

jimmiet said:
I'll just leave this right here.... PLEASE be smart and do not start spamming him with "ETA?" and other b.s. that will make him not want to share it. We are NOT entitled to his work. If he decides to share, he will. Leave it at that.
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He's already said that he's not going to release it. Jcase is a lost cause.

Jump on this while you can !! -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177

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He's already said that he's not going to release it. Jcase is a lost cause.
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He said on Twitter that it would more than likely be released just not by him.
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Well let's hope so.

And then 4.4.3 will come out. Lol

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And then 4.4.3 will come out. Lol
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His tweet did say "Don't OTA"

I've been searching for an answer to my problem and this is the best thread I have seen but....I'm a little confused. Here is what I did:
Bought a BOOST Mobile MOTO-G.
I unlocked the bootloader. I can be done on this device.
I flashed CWM from recovery. It worked fine.
From recovery, I flashed the VERIZON 4.4.2 image.
Booted the phone, activated it on PagePlus.
Went back to recovery, flashed SUPERSU. It worked....no errors.
Root checkers say I have root. I cannot use anything that needs root such as Titanium.
I connected the phone and did :
adb shell
getprop ro.boot.write_protect
It returned a 0 (zero)
Does this make sense? I just would like someone to confirm it does. Reading this thread has helped but it is the ZERO write protect thing that is throwing me.
Thanks in advance.

Newest Verizon Update Patches Quadrooter Vulnerabilities

I can confirm that the latest update for the Verizon Moto Z Force patches the quadrooter vulnerabilities.
I took the risk and updated to see if it would and it did.
I would bet money that if you want to root this phone then DO NOT TAKE THIS UPDATE!

I figured this would happen, thank god I trusted my instincts and have been postponing the update since it came out.

Quadrooter doesn't help with unlocking the bootloader that we'd need for root on MM though(?).

Right, but still might have been useful for a soft root...
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Why would you softroot anyway? We have a BL unlock. Just wait for a recovery and flash su

We do?
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Soft root to hide soft keys in build prop to use lmt launcher for a full screen experience.

Sirshark10 said:
Why would you softroot anyway? We have a BL unlock. Just wait for a recovery and flash su
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For Moto unlocked devices (developer editions) which have not been released yet.
This is a Verizon OTA for the Verizon Moto Z Force which have locked bootloaders with Verizon signed keys. Unless some amazing leak happens our bootloaders won't be unlocked anytime soon.

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For Moto unlocked devices (developer editions) which have not been released yet.
This is a Verizon OTA for the Verizon Moto Z Force which have locked bootloaders with Verizon signed keys. Unless some amazing leak happens our bootloaders won't be unlocked anytime soon.
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Does anyone know what to disable to disable the OTA updates?
Thanks

Smithfolk4 said:
Does anyone know what to disable to disable the OTA updates?
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Need root for that. And with android 6.0 last time i check there is no way to root without a custom recovery. That requires an unlocked bootloader what will not happen.
Take the update root will never come.

bignazpwns said:
Need root for that. And with android 6.0 last time i check there is no way to root without a custom recovery. That requires an unlocked bootloader what will not happen.
Take the update root will never come.
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Thanks. I took the update. Actually 2. I guess my phone was a bit behind. But, I have been able in the past, using the Debloater tool, to disable the apk for updates. I just don't know what it is for this phone and none of them seem to sound like an update package. If we can identify the apk we can turn it off. Maybe it is done some other way on this phone.

bignazpwns said:
Need root for that. And with android 6.0 last time i check there is no way to root without a custom recovery. That requires an unlocked bootloader what will not happen.
Take the update root will never come.
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u can disable it without root lol just need to know what

hwy @jcase , was wondering if your new write is able to be utilized on the moto z force droid from verizon?
http://bbqand0days.com/Pork-Explosion-Unleashed/

elliwigy said:
hwy @jcase , was wondering if your new write is able to be utilized on the moto z force droid from verizon?
http://bbqand0days.com/Pork-Explosion-Unleashed/
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Full details of both detecting possible vulnerable devices, as well as exploitation are in the post. Doing both is trivial.

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Full details of both detecting possible vulnerable devices, as well as exploitation are in the post. Doing both is trivial.
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haha ok, i guess i need to learn more anyways, i will reread it again and again until i understand it lol
thanks for publishing if course, crazy im just barely hearing about it lol seems like a really serious issue on exploitable devices for sure
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lol my phone says access denied trying to check any system files and the phone doesnt come with a usb cord to plug into the computer to check the commands but i do have an adapter from my note 7 so i will try it here in a bit when i get back home unless someone smarter than me or already checked it wants to chime in...
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i did research that foxconn does work with moto mobility on some level but wasnt able to narrow it down further than that, most news about foxconn is how they treat their employees and their suicides lol
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i did also notice they do work on the ps4 which is interesting...

well, there goes that idea.. i cant even get the pc to recognize the phone as an adb device
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i dont think our phone has adb or fastboot.. no matter what i try i cant get it to be recognized by adb or fastboot unless i am missing something

elliwigy said:
well, there goes that idea.. i cant even get the pc to recognize the phone as an adb device
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i dont think our phone has adb or fastboot.. no matter what i try i cant get it to be recognized by adb or fastboot unless i am missing something
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ADB works fine for me. Haven't had a use for fastboot yet, but I'm sure it works.
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PiousInquisitor said:
ADB works fine for me. Haven't had a use for fastboot yet, but I'm sure it works.
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what drivers did you use during install?

elliwigy said:
what drivers did you use during install?
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None. I use Linux.
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PiousInquisitor said:
None. I use Linux.
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oh lol i got it to work, had to install drivers