So, I got my Moto X on Verizon today. The OTA started downloading already. Luckily, I turned off all data before it could finish downloading (it's at 8% now). Obviously, I can't connect to data 'cause it will automatically start to download.
I want to root though. I know I'm supposed to use PwnMyMoto. However, I know that the OTA breaks root. I've read around all the posts--and I can't seem to find a conclusive way to keep root on the OTA after gaining it; each post I read says something different.
Additional piece of info: I don't care about anything regarding custom ROMs or the bootloader. I intend to keep the stock ROM, but use Xposed.
So, my three questions:
1) Is it okay to root even though the download of the OTA has started?
2) What is the conclusive way to keep root for the OTA?
3) After rooting, how would I go about returning everything back to stock? (I plan on using this phone for a next week or so, then returning it--this is because of the price drops and MotoMaker for Verizon coming out soon; at this stage, I just want to know if this phone is right for me).
Thanks for all the help in advance.
Just boot into Recovery and wipe data\cache and dalvick this will reset your phone. Then resetup your phone, the OTA will come back up, tell the OTA to REMIND you about it, not download it. Then use pwnmymoto to get root, and then just freeze the OTA downloader (MotorolaOTA.apk). Continue to use your phone, customize it with xposed etc etc. When you want to return it, use RSDLite and flash the stock FXZ file to it its totally back to stock again out of the box.
Am I too late?
I have the update on my phone, but would want to root it. I have the moto x on verizon it's not the developers edition.
No need to wipe data. You can root while the download goes then install ROM toolbox and delete the update from your cache and freeze the moto updater.apk and updater.apk to stop the notification. As for.rooting the update I think jcase said install pwnmymoto but don't run it then update. But IMO its not worth it cause if anything gets messed up you get updated and loose the opportunity to root.
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enigmaco said:
I have the update on my phone, but would want to root it. I have the moto x on verizon it's not the developers edition.
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If you installed the update your SOL. If its just downloaded your OK to root.
I ended up not accepting the update. I'm not going to either. If by the time I return this phone I deem it worthy of a replacement for my GNexus--then I'll worry about root and the OTA. This is awesome stuff.
shane1 said:
No need to wipe data. You can root while the download goes then install ROM toolbox and delete the update from your cache and freeze the moto updater.apk and updater.apk to stop the notification. As for.rooting the update I think jcase said install pwnmymoto but don't run it then update. But IMO its not worth it cause if anything gets messed up you get updated and loose the opportunity to root.
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If you installed the update your SOL. If its just downloaded your OK to root.
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Had a feeling oh well missed the boat again.
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Just received my Moto X AT&T shipped from Costco, system version is 139.9.51.ghost_ATT.en.US -so would appear I can root? (and then hopefully take the update without losing root? I recall seeing a thread, hopefully for the version I have)
Can the update be "pushed" onto the device without my accepting it, as to whether I would need to root (if I wanted to root) quickly to block it?
Thanks
M973 said:
Just received my Moto X AT&T shipped from Costco, system version is 139.9.51.ghost_ATT.en.US -so would appear I can root? (and then hopefully take the update without losing root? I recall seeing a thread, hopefully for the version I have)
Can the update be "pushed" onto the device without my accepting it, as to whether I would need to root (if I wanted to root) quickly to block it?
Thanks
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no but you will get continual pop ups unless you the phone then disable motorola ota 1.0 and updater.apk (i think just updater.apk will suffice) with Titanium back up.
jayboyyyy said:
no but you will get continual pop ups unless you the phone then disable motorola ota 1.0 and updater.apk (i think just updater.apk will suffice) with Titanium back up.
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Thanks, I thought that was the case, but wanted to confirm quickly (with some, SGS4, it's pushed to the phone whether you accept or not, unless you're rooted.)
Thanks for the quick reply
M973 said:
Thanks, I thought that was the case, but wanted to confirm quickly (with some, SGS4, it's pushed to the phone whether you accept or not, unless you're rooted.)
Thanks for the quick reply
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not sure if it downloads it automatically or not (i don't think it does but it may). Even if it does download automatically it won't update it unless you click ok when it prompts you. I would root and disable OTiA until you figure out what you are going to do about it.
rooting
looks like it's either with PwnMyMoto, or Motoroot, appears the first is better? Looks like both are done with ADB which was a bit difficult, have only used it once, used it to remove safestrap from the SGS4 I had so I could return it
M973 said:
looks like it's either with PwnMyMoto, or Motoroot, appears the first is better? Looks like both are done with ADB which was a bit difficult, have only used it once, used it to remove safestrap from the SGS4 I had so I could return it
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You can just install pwnmymoto on your device and run it. Make sure to have unknown sources checked
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Also it is wise to get familiar with adb and fastboot!
shane1 said:
You can just install pwnmymoto on your device and run it. Make sure to have unknown sources checked
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Also it is wise to get familiar with adb and fastboot!
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Cool, thanks!
Got my note 3 last night, came from HTC One M7. As with everything I went straight to root and rom install, maybe too hastily. Should have read instructions better.
Phone is on 4.3. Last night I was on Baseband version N900AUCBMJ5...I had it rooted and safestrap installed with no issue. Hadn't installed a rom yet, was going to do that today.
This morning, after my alarm woke me up, my phone rebooted and said was updating Android...NOW the phone is on baseband version N900AUCUBNB4, not rooted, and completely stock.
SuperSU is still installed, but doesn't work. SafeStrap is installed but it says Stats: Not Rooted.
When I reboot it still has the padlock that says "Custom" at the bottom of the boot screen.
What did I did to my phone?! How do I fix it? Is there a way to go back to MJ5 or should I? Where do I root from here and how do I install 4.4 and a custom rom?
You got the "pre kit Kat" update. You can obtain root again by using an older version of kingo. Check out the thread on how to root nb4. Once you have root access again freeze "at&t software update" so you won't automatically update again. If you update to stock kit Kat you won't be able to gain root access at this time.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2661653
440bro said:
You got the "pre kit Kat" update. You can obtain root again by using an older version of kingo. Check out the thread on how to root nb4. Once you have root access again freeze "at&t software update" so you won't automatically update again. If you update to stock kit Kat you won't be able to gain root access at this time.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2661653
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How do I freeze the AT&T software update?
So after I reroot the phone and install the SafeStrap recovery, I can boot into that recovery. Then create a new rom slot and install a new rom correct? Like PureROM CE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716737) and I should be good to go correct?
Why does it say it's not rooted but yet the padlock is still there?
There's apps you can download to freeze like titanium backup, android tuner...etc. Some cost money, some don't. The free ones aren't the best but somewhat work. I highly recommend titanium backup.
Yes after you root you can safestrap and be good to go!
You see the padlock symbol because the rom isn't fully stock. It's customized. The update removed your root access but not fully. Traces of superuser were left behind. You must of previously used triangle away, or an xposed module to "fake system status". Once root was removed these apps no longer work so your padlock is back.
440bro said:
There's apps you can download to freeze like titanium backup, android tuner...etc. Some cost money, some don't. The free ones aren't the best but somewhat work. I highly recommend titanium backup.
Yes after you root you can safestrap and be good to go!
You see the padlock symbol because the rom isn't fully stock. It's customized. The update removed your root access but not fully. Traces of superuser were left behind. You must of previously used triangle away, or an xposed module to "fake system status". Once root was removed these apps no longer work so your padlock is back.
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I hadn't used xposed yet to fake the system status. Should I? Does it really matter?
I will get titanium backup.
Nah the system status is up to you. Doesn't matter.
Thanks man, I really appreciate your help. I feel like a idiot. Never had a problem with my One...this is a whole different animal.
besthaticouldo said:
Thanks man, I really appreciate your help. I feel like a idiot. Never had a problem with my One...this is a whole different animal.
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Don't feel like an idiot. It's like you said. The at&t note 3 is a different animal. At&t has locked our bootloader and totally locked us out from modifying our device. It seems like at&t comes out with a new "you're screwed" surprise for us every update. This will be the last branded phone I buy from at&t. Boycotting is the only power we have over them.
I recently rooted my Verizon G2 with ioroot, Android version is currently 4.2.2. Now Verizon keeps pushing to update to 4.4.2, and reminds me every 12 hours to do so. The update fails, and I'm assuming because the phone is rooted. So I guess a couple questions:
(1) Is there a way to prevent it from asking for an update, and I'll just stick with 4.2.2?
(2) How do I "unroot" my phone? Is there a simple way to reverse the process, and also how do I root it when I get to 4.4.2?
Thanks!
EDIT: I saw this guide, just the title didn't sound like it was related to root, but at least I can try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729156
But I'd still like to see if there's a way to stay with 4.2.2 instead, do I really need 4.4.2?
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I recently rooted my Verizon G2 with ioroot, Android version is currently 4.2.2. Now Verizon keeps pushing to update to 4.4.2, and reminds me every 12 hours to do so. The update fails, and I'm assuming because the phone is rooted. So I guess a couple questions:
(1) Is there a way to prevent it from asking for an update, and I'll just stick with 4.2.2?
(2) How do I "unroot" my phone? Is there a simple way to reverse the process, and also how do I root it when I get to 4.4.2?
Thanks!
EDIT: I saw this guide, just the title didn't sound like it was related to root, but at least I can try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729156
But I'd still like to see if there's a way to stay with 4.2.2 instead, do I really need 4.4.2?
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You can use TitaniumBackup and freeze the OTA updater apk. I don't know the exact apk name so hopefully someone can chime in. Also you can do a full unroot by going into the SuperUser app and clicking on Full Unroot. It will do it's thing and you will reboot.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that root does NOT kill the OTA. You most likely have a custom recovery on your phone. That's why it fails. So all you have to do is just freeze the annoying updater apk and you should be good to go.
Thanks! I'll see if I can find the ota updater apk and freeze it.
Beamed from my G2 Tricorder
You could always just flash one of the 4.4.2 stock LG ROMs like Malladus or xdabbebs. If you have a custom recovery that is.
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Thanks! I'll see if I can find the ota updater apk and freeze it.
Beamed from my G2 Tricorder
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Please let us know if you find it...I am in the same boat and I cannot find what to freeze either.
System updates MUC 6.4.1.5_E02
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At least in xdabbeb's ROM
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Ok, I think I figured it out. MUC 6.4.1.5_E02 was disabled by default when I upgraded to Titanium Backup Pro.
Hi,
Have my dev ed xt1060 rooted and running 4.4.2 stock rom with xposed
This morning when I turned on the phone it downloaded the OTA update which I am assuming is kk, 4.4.4
The update has not been applied yet as I don't want to lose root... I had a bad experience with Samsung and the whole Knox bs and that is why I moved over to the MOTO X dev ed.
If I do update the phone, will I lose root? Will it be hard to get root back??
Is there a way to save the update for later if I want to do that??
Just don't want to get screwed again like I did with knox.... once bitten twice shy, right?
Thanks!
drumrjoe
You need to be on stock recovery and system changes undone as well. In other words Xposed needs to be uninstalled and other changes undone. All original system apps need to be there... Etc. If you've done much to the phone, it's best to flash stock 4.4.2 again, take the Ota and yes...flash custom recovery and root again.
Or.... Wait for flashable files for your model and flash in fastboot. Done.
Personally, I always wait and flash the files with fastboot.
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This guide has a return to stock section if you need help....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
Do not flash firmware older that 4.4.2....or you will more than likely brick.
Thanks for the help!!
I've got this icon on the upper left of my screen to start the system update... Is there a way to remove that without updating yet??
Is there a way to save the update for a later date, when I have backup up everything and also to make room??
Thanks!
dj
Hi...
So I rooted my Note 4 and installed custom recovery TWRP. Before I did, I postponed an update (OTA) for the phone to 1 AM PST.
After rooting...the Notifications still show
"T-mobile Update Service" with that rectangular icon... and underneath says "Update Postponed"
Now...I thought installing TWRP should BLOCK OTA automatically...is something going ot go horribly wrong at 1 AM PST and will it try to install Lollipop on my Note 4 anyways?
Please help!!
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Have a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2919543
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From that thread
I am on the NJ7 and can confirm any update check comes back with the "custom software, no updates for you" message.
Does it apply to ANK4? Unlike that poster - update check works for me...and it works a little too good and provides what is in each log.
Maybe it's because you rooted in a funny way?
Are you saying that rooting via the SuperSU UPDATE .zip and recovery is "funny?" I don't understand what's so funny about it. It's another method that isn't revolved around some auto-flash option.
It's still why you're getting ota's
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How'd you do it anyway? Abd?
What does CFAuto Root do differently that "blocks" OTAs? Just wondering what logical reasoning this is based on
I flashed TWRP with Odin - then I used UPDATE SUPERSU v2.6 .zip and installed via recovery. That was it. Launched SuperSU and it worked.
It looks more like you rooted the phone.
Custom binary, etc.
Are you sure you're rooted?
You can use rooted apps, etc.?
Did you trip Knox?
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Ota's won't go to rooted phones.
Yes. I am rooted. Is the method I did archaic or something? lol. I have SuperSU. I granted several apps root access - I have TWRP installed -and I used RootChecker and granted it access and it confirmed I have root as well.
Tripped knox...more than likely..not sure how to check
I rooted AFTER I got update notifications of TWO updates...perhaps a fluke?
Thank you for all your help )
It's fun talking with somebody with phone skills.
Just never saw anybody skip the cf-autoroot step.
Me.
I don't get the update notifications cause I'm lost in rom land.
You could probably kill the update process with titanium.
I'm just glad I'm finally getting some answers. I've been rooting across very different types of phones for a while, but each new release has its own weird...little grouped up programs and auto stuff. I tend to avoid all auto-solutions and opt for manual as possible.
what do you think about my deal with OTA? I didn't actually check for updates...its the same updates before root that are being notified to me
This search may help
http://www.google.com/search?site=&......1c..64.mobile-gws-hp..0.1.54.3.ehLqx9i8kTc
I've never run stock rooted for more than a day.
But, I know people stop the update nagging thing.
I uninstalled fotaclient.apk (one of the update's names) - along with the other update (incsyncmdl or something) and lastly FWUpgrade.apk.
I backed up Incsync and FWUpgrade..but not fotaclient. Say for purposes - i actually want to update or restore that...how would I find FOTAClient.apk again?
I guess it's no biggy..just breaks the in-phone updater...but still allows me to flash like normal unrooted stock roms in the future via Odin anyways
How are you uninstalling?
With titanium you can just freeze and then unthaw later.
But, you can always pull the apks out of one of the stockish roms in the Android development section.
I don't see the .apks in the Stock ANK4 rom. just recovery.img, boot.img and some unopenable .bin files...
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