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Three questions regarding root and the OTA

So, I got my Moto X on Verizon today. The OTA started downloading already. Luckily, I turned off all data before it could finish downloading (it's at 8% now). Obviously, I can't connect to data 'cause it will automatically start to download.
I want to root though. I know I'm supposed to use PwnMyMoto. However, I know that the OTA breaks root. I've read around all the posts--and I can't seem to find a conclusive way to keep root on the OTA after gaining it; each post I read says something different.
Additional piece of info: I don't care about anything regarding custom ROMs or the bootloader. I intend to keep the stock ROM, but use Xposed.
So, my three questions:
1) Is it okay to root even though the download of the OTA has started?
2) What is the conclusive way to keep root for the OTA?
3) After rooting, how would I go about returning everything back to stock? (I plan on using this phone for a next week or so, then returning it--this is because of the price drops and MotoMaker for Verizon coming out soon; at this stage, I just want to know if this phone is right for me).
Thanks for all the help in advance.

Just boot into Recovery and wipe data\cache and dalvick this will reset your phone. Then resetup your phone, the OTA will come back up, tell the OTA to REMIND you about it, not download it. Then use pwnmymoto to get root, and then just freeze the OTA downloader (MotorolaOTA.apk). Continue to use your phone, customize it with xposed etc etc. When you want to return it, use RSDLite and flash the stock FXZ file to it its totally back to stock again out of the box.

Am I too late?
I have the update on my phone, but would want to root it. I have the moto x on verizon it's not the developers edition.

No need to wipe data. You can root while the download goes then install ROM toolbox and delete the update from your cache and freeze the moto updater.apk and updater.apk to stop the notification. As for.rooting the update I think jcase said install pwnmymoto but don't run it then update. But IMO its not worth it cause if anything gets messed up you get updated and loose the opportunity to root.
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enigmaco said:
I have the update on my phone, but would want to root it. I have the moto x on verizon it's not the developers edition.
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If you installed the update your SOL. If its just downloaded your OK to root.

I ended up not accepting the update. I'm not going to either. If by the time I return this phone I deem it worthy of a replacement for my GNexus--then I'll worry about root and the OTA. This is awesome stuff.

shane1 said:
No need to wipe data. You can root while the download goes then install ROM toolbox and delete the update from your cache and freeze the moto updater.apk and updater.apk to stop the notification. As for.rooting the update I think jcase said install pwnmymoto but don't run it then update. But IMO its not worth it cause if anything gets messed up you get updated and loose the opportunity to root.
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If you installed the update your SOL. If its just downloaded your OK to root.
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Had a feeling oh well missed the boat again.

[Q] How to go about the 4.4.2 OTA (VZW - Root)?

Hello, if you have seen some some of my other posts here it is kind of clear that I'm not the most knowledgeable of all of the details to rooting. I've seen several posts here on XDA that seem to indicate that keeping root is possible after taking the 4.4.2 update on a locked bootloader, although disabling R/W in the process. I use XPosed (Gravity Box in particular) on my phone which based on my browsing is possible to maintain following the update, but I have yet to come across any sort of instructions to do this so I don't brick my phone or cause it to bootloop. How should I go about taking the OTA? Thank you very much in advance.

nwinston96 said:
Hello, if you have seen some some of my other posts here it is kind of clear that I'm not the most knowledgeable of all of the details to rooting. I've seen several posts here on XDA that seem to indicate that keeping root is possible after taking the 4.4.2 update on a locked bootloader, although disabling R/W in the process. I use XPosed (Gravity Box in particular) on my phone which based on my browsing is possible to maintain following the update, but I have yet to come across any sort of instructions to do this so I don't brick my phone or cause it to bootloop. How should I go about taking the OTA? Thank you very much in advance.
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Hey! I deleted what I wrote before to you.... forgot there is a sticky on it. Just a heads up! always red the forum ruls and sicky notes first. most questions get answered there.
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How to Take OTA on Root Device
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Originally Posted by flashallthetime View Post
Ok tired of answering thus question constantly
To accept and flash an ota you must have the following phone set up
1) Stock recovery. No it will no flash with twrp or cwm
2) All root removed completely from your system
3) Xposed framework completely removed from your system, uninstalling will not work,you need to flash the xposed Disabler zip
4) Any mods to any system file must be reverted to stock
5) Running the stock odex ROM
6) Any system apps frozen must be unfrozen
If you have at any point of time flashed any 4.4.2 firmware along with the boot loader 30.B3 or 30.B4
DO NOT FLASH THE OTA, YOU WILL HAVE A HARD BRICKED MOTO
HOPE THIS HELPS
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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The thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-how-to-root-4-4-links-guides-t2603358

There's a whole thread dedicated to your exact question.

[Q] How to Unroot my Verizon G2?

I recently rooted my Verizon G2 with ioroot, Android version is currently 4.2.2. Now Verizon keeps pushing to update to 4.4.2, and reminds me every 12 hours to do so. The update fails, and I'm assuming because the phone is rooted. So I guess a couple questions:
(1) Is there a way to prevent it from asking for an update, and I'll just stick with 4.2.2?
(2) How do I "unroot" my phone? Is there a simple way to reverse the process, and also how do I root it when I get to 4.4.2?
Thanks!
EDIT: I saw this guide, just the title didn't sound like it was related to root, but at least I can try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729156
But I'd still like to see if there's a way to stay with 4.2.2 instead, do I really need 4.4.2?

HTWingNut said:
I recently rooted my Verizon G2 with ioroot, Android version is currently 4.2.2. Now Verizon keeps pushing to update to 4.4.2, and reminds me every 12 hours to do so. The update fails, and I'm assuming because the phone is rooted. So I guess a couple questions:
(1) Is there a way to prevent it from asking for an update, and I'll just stick with 4.2.2?
(2) How do I "unroot" my phone? Is there a simple way to reverse the process, and also how do I root it when I get to 4.4.2?
Thanks!
EDIT: I saw this guide, just the title didn't sound like it was related to root, but at least I can try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729156
But I'd still like to see if there's a way to stay with 4.2.2 instead, do I really need 4.4.2?
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You can use TitaniumBackup and freeze the OTA updater apk. I don't know the exact apk name so hopefully someone can chime in. Also you can do a full unroot by going into the SuperUser app and clicking on Full Unroot. It will do it's thing and you will reboot.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that root does NOT kill the OTA. You most likely have a custom recovery on your phone. That's why it fails. So all you have to do is just freeze the annoying updater apk and you should be good to go.

Thanks! I'll see if I can find the ota updater apk and freeze it.
Beamed from my G2 Tricorder

You could always just flash one of the 4.4.2 stock LG ROMs like Malladus or xdabbebs. If you have a custom recovery that is.

HTWingNut said:
Thanks! I'll see if I can find the ota updater apk and freeze it.
Beamed from my G2 Tricorder
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Please let us know if you find it...I am in the same boat and I cannot find what to freeze either.

System updates MUC 6.4.1.5_E02
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At least in xdabbeb's ROM
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk

Ok, I think I figured it out. MUC 6.4.1.5_E02 was disabled by default when I upgraded to Titanium Backup Pro.

How to Disable OTA on Rooted Note 4 with TWRP?

Hi...
So I rooted my Note 4 and installed custom recovery TWRP. Before I did, I postponed an update (OTA) for the phone to 1 AM PST.
After rooting...the Notifications still show
"T-mobile Update Service" with that rectangular icon... and underneath says "Update Postponed"
Now...I thought installing TWRP should BLOCK OTA automatically...is something going ot go horribly wrong at 1 AM PST and will it try to install Lollipop on my Note 4 anyways?
Please help!!

BUMP

Have a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2919543
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From that thread
I am on the NJ7 and can confirm any update check comes back with the "custom software, no updates for you" message.

Does it apply to ANK4? Unlike that poster - update check works for me...and it works a little too good and provides what is in each log.

Maybe it's because you rooted in a funny way?

Are you saying that rooting via the SuperSU UPDATE .zip and recovery is "funny?" I don't understand what's so funny about it. It's another method that isn't revolved around some auto-flash option.

It's still why you're getting ota's
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How'd you do it anyway? Abd?

What does CFAuto Root do differently that "blocks" OTAs? Just wondering what logical reasoning this is based on

I flashed TWRP with Odin - then I used UPDATE SUPERSU v2.6 .zip and installed via recovery. That was it. Launched SuperSU and it worked.

It looks more like you rooted the phone.
Custom binary, etc.
Are you sure you're rooted?
You can use rooted apps, etc.?
Did you trip Knox?
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Ota's won't go to rooted phones.

Yes. I am rooted. Is the method I did archaic or something? lol. I have SuperSU. I granted several apps root access - I have TWRP installed -and I used RootChecker and granted it access and it confirmed I have root as well.
Tripped knox...more than likely..not sure how to check
I rooted AFTER I got update notifications of TWO updates...perhaps a fluke?
Thank you for all your help )

It's fun talking with somebody with phone skills.
Just never saw anybody skip the cf-autoroot step.
Me.
I don't get the update notifications cause I'm lost in rom land.

You could probably kill the update process with titanium.

I'm just glad I'm finally getting some answers. I've been rooting across very different types of phones for a while, but each new release has its own weird...little grouped up programs and auto stuff. I tend to avoid all auto-solutions and opt for manual as possible.
what do you think about my deal with OTA? I didn't actually check for updates...its the same updates before root that are being notified to me

This search may help
http://www.google.com/search?site=&......1c..64.mobile-gws-hp..0.1.54.3.ehLqx9i8kTc
I've never run stock rooted for more than a day.
But, I know people stop the update nagging thing.

I uninstalled fotaclient.apk (one of the update's names) - along with the other update (incsyncmdl or something) and lastly FWUpgrade.apk.
I backed up Incsync and FWUpgrade..but not fotaclient. Say for purposes - i actually want to update or restore that...how would I find FOTAClient.apk again?
I guess it's no biggy..just breaks the in-phone updater...but still allows me to flash like normal unrooted stock roms in the future via Odin anyways

How are you uninstalling?
With titanium you can just freeze and then unthaw later.
But, you can always pull the apks out of one of the stockish roms in the Android development section.

I don't see the .apks in the Stock ANK4 rom. just recovery.img, boot.img and some unopenable .bin files...

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How do i update my root?

I am completely new to rooting, my friend rooted my tablet for me.
SO how do i update the root that was just released.
EDIT: Basically i want to update my rom, and i have literally no idea how to do it

Erm what root that was just released? And what does it do differently?

Pond-life said:
Erm what root that was just released? And what does it do differently?
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i meant firmware, my bad i am new to this

He's new to rooting. He likely means something else. Maybe update the OS.
Once you have root, there is no need to update it. As long as your root didn't get removed by an amazon OS update.
Do you know if your friend blocked "OTA" (forced amazon OS updates)? What OS version are you on?
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One you are rooted, you do not want to just update the amazon OS, aka system, aka firmware. Often an "update" does nothing more than lock you out from rooting or installing custom roms. Unless you know that an "update" actually has something you want & you're sure it won't remove your root / lock you out, then do not update.

blueberry.sky said:
He's new to rooting. He likely means something else. Maybe update the OS.
Once you have root, there is no need to update it. As long as your root didn't get removed by an amazon OS update.
Do you know if your friend blocked "OTA" (forced amazon OS updates)? What OS version are you on?
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One you are rooted, you do not want to just update the amazon OS, aka system, aka firmware. Often an "update" does nothing more than lock you out from rooting or installing custom roms. Unless you know that an "update" actually has something you want & you're sure it won't remove your root / lock you out, then do not update.
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It is on 5.1.1
kernal version 3.1.0.54+
i am not sure if the ota are off or not
edit: i found in the developer options for cyanogenmod updates, and i turned that on. i dont know what to do from there

atayal said:
It is on 5.1.1
kernal version 3.1.0.54+
i am not sure if the ota are off or not
edit: i found in the developer options for cyanogenmod updates, and i turned that on. i dont know what to do from there
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hang on you are running cyanogenmod rather than stock rom?
That won't ota update think you'd need to get the files from the CM thread and install how they say there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/rom-cm-12-1-2015-11-15-t3249416