I am completely new to rooting, my friend rooted my tablet for me.
SO how do i update the root that was just released.
EDIT: Basically i want to update my rom, and i have literally no idea how to do it
Erm what root that was just released? And what does it do differently?
Pond-life said:
Erm what root that was just released? And what does it do differently?
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i meant firmware, my bad i am new to this
He's new to rooting. He likely means something else. Maybe update the OS.
Once you have root, there is no need to update it. As long as your root didn't get removed by an amazon OS update.
Do you know if your friend blocked "OTA" (forced amazon OS updates)? What OS version are you on?
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One you are rooted, you do not want to just update the amazon OS, aka system, aka firmware. Often an "update" does nothing more than lock you out from rooting or installing custom roms. Unless you know that an "update" actually has something you want & you're sure it won't remove your root / lock you out, then do not update.
blueberry.sky said:
He's new to rooting. He likely means something else. Maybe update the OS.
Once you have root, there is no need to update it. As long as your root didn't get removed by an amazon OS update.
Do you know if your friend blocked "OTA" (forced amazon OS updates)? What OS version are you on?
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One you are rooted, you do not want to just update the amazon OS, aka system, aka firmware. Often an "update" does nothing more than lock you out from rooting or installing custom roms. Unless you know that an "update" actually has something you want & you're sure it won't remove your root / lock you out, then do not update.
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It is on 5.1.1
kernal version 3.1.0.54+
i am not sure if the ota are off or not
edit: i found in the developer options for cyanogenmod updates, and i turned that on. i dont know what to do from there
atayal said:
It is on 5.1.1
kernal version 3.1.0.54+
i am not sure if the ota are off or not
edit: i found in the developer options for cyanogenmod updates, and i turned that on. i dont know what to do from there
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hang on you are running cyanogenmod rather than stock rom?
That won't ota update think you'd need to get the files from the CM thread and install how they say there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/rom-cm-12-1-2015-11-15-t3249416
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Just received my Moto X AT&T shipped from Costco, system version is 139.9.51.ghost_ATT.en.US -so would appear I can root? (and then hopefully take the update without losing root? I recall seeing a thread, hopefully for the version I have)
Can the update be "pushed" onto the device without my accepting it, as to whether I would need to root (if I wanted to root) quickly to block it?
Thanks
M973 said:
Just received my Moto X AT&T shipped from Costco, system version is 139.9.51.ghost_ATT.en.US -so would appear I can root? (and then hopefully take the update without losing root? I recall seeing a thread, hopefully for the version I have)
Can the update be "pushed" onto the device without my accepting it, as to whether I would need to root (if I wanted to root) quickly to block it?
Thanks
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no but you will get continual pop ups unless you the phone then disable motorola ota 1.0 and updater.apk (i think just updater.apk will suffice) with Titanium back up.
jayboyyyy said:
no but you will get continual pop ups unless you the phone then disable motorola ota 1.0 and updater.apk (i think just updater.apk will suffice) with Titanium back up.
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Thanks, I thought that was the case, but wanted to confirm quickly (with some, SGS4, it's pushed to the phone whether you accept or not, unless you're rooted.)
Thanks for the quick reply
M973 said:
Thanks, I thought that was the case, but wanted to confirm quickly (with some, SGS4, it's pushed to the phone whether you accept or not, unless you're rooted.)
Thanks for the quick reply
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not sure if it downloads it automatically or not (i don't think it does but it may). Even if it does download automatically it won't update it unless you click ok when it prompts you. I would root and disable OTiA until you figure out what you are going to do about it.
rooting
looks like it's either with PwnMyMoto, or Motoroot, appears the first is better? Looks like both are done with ADB which was a bit difficult, have only used it once, used it to remove safestrap from the SGS4 I had so I could return it
M973 said:
looks like it's either with PwnMyMoto, or Motoroot, appears the first is better? Looks like both are done with ADB which was a bit difficult, have only used it once, used it to remove safestrap from the SGS4 I had so I could return it
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You can just install pwnmymoto on your device and run it. Make sure to have unknown sources checked
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Also it is wise to get familiar with adb and fastboot!
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You can just install pwnmymoto on your device and run it. Make sure to have unknown sources checked
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Cool, thanks!
So, I got my Moto X on Verizon today. The OTA started downloading already. Luckily, I turned off all data before it could finish downloading (it's at 8% now). Obviously, I can't connect to data 'cause it will automatically start to download.
I want to root though. I know I'm supposed to use PwnMyMoto. However, I know that the OTA breaks root. I've read around all the posts--and I can't seem to find a conclusive way to keep root on the OTA after gaining it; each post I read says something different.
Additional piece of info: I don't care about anything regarding custom ROMs or the bootloader. I intend to keep the stock ROM, but use Xposed.
So, my three questions:
1) Is it okay to root even though the download of the OTA has started?
2) What is the conclusive way to keep root for the OTA?
3) After rooting, how would I go about returning everything back to stock? (I plan on using this phone for a next week or so, then returning it--this is because of the price drops and MotoMaker for Verizon coming out soon; at this stage, I just want to know if this phone is right for me).
Thanks for all the help in advance.
Just boot into Recovery and wipe data\cache and dalvick this will reset your phone. Then resetup your phone, the OTA will come back up, tell the OTA to REMIND you about it, not download it. Then use pwnmymoto to get root, and then just freeze the OTA downloader (MotorolaOTA.apk). Continue to use your phone, customize it with xposed etc etc. When you want to return it, use RSDLite and flash the stock FXZ file to it its totally back to stock again out of the box.
Am I too late?
I have the update on my phone, but would want to root it. I have the moto x on verizon it's not the developers edition.
No need to wipe data. You can root while the download goes then install ROM toolbox and delete the update from your cache and freeze the moto updater.apk and updater.apk to stop the notification. As for.rooting the update I think jcase said install pwnmymoto but don't run it then update. But IMO its not worth it cause if anything gets messed up you get updated and loose the opportunity to root.
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enigmaco said:
I have the update on my phone, but would want to root it. I have the moto x on verizon it's not the developers edition.
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If you installed the update your SOL. If its just downloaded your OK to root.
I ended up not accepting the update. I'm not going to either. If by the time I return this phone I deem it worthy of a replacement for my GNexus--then I'll worry about root and the OTA. This is awesome stuff.
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No need to wipe data. You can root while the download goes then install ROM toolbox and delete the update from your cache and freeze the moto updater.apk and updater.apk to stop the notification. As for.rooting the update I think jcase said install pwnmymoto but don't run it then update. But IMO its not worth it cause if anything gets messed up you get updated and loose the opportunity to root.
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If you installed the update your SOL. If its just downloaded your OK to root.
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Had a feeling oh well missed the boat again.
Hi,
Have my dev ed xt1060 rooted and running 4.4.2 stock rom with xposed
This morning when I turned on the phone it downloaded the OTA update which I am assuming is kk, 4.4.4
The update has not been applied yet as I don't want to lose root... I had a bad experience with Samsung and the whole Knox bs and that is why I moved over to the MOTO X dev ed.
If I do update the phone, will I lose root? Will it be hard to get root back??
Is there a way to save the update for later if I want to do that??
Just don't want to get screwed again like I did with knox.... once bitten twice shy, right?
Thanks!
drumrjoe
You need to be on stock recovery and system changes undone as well. In other words Xposed needs to be uninstalled and other changes undone. All original system apps need to be there... Etc. If you've done much to the phone, it's best to flash stock 4.4.2 again, take the Ota and yes...flash custom recovery and root again.
Or.... Wait for flashable files for your model and flash in fastboot. Done.
Personally, I always wait and flash the files with fastboot.
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This guide has a return to stock section if you need help....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
Do not flash firmware older that 4.4.2....or you will more than likely brick.
Thanks for the help!!
I've got this icon on the upper left of my screen to start the system update... Is there a way to remove that without updating yet??
Is there a way to save the update for a later date, when I have backup up everything and also to make room??
Thanks!
dj
Hi...
So I rooted my Note 4 and installed custom recovery TWRP. Before I did, I postponed an update (OTA) for the phone to 1 AM PST.
After rooting...the Notifications still show
"T-mobile Update Service" with that rectangular icon... and underneath says "Update Postponed"
Now...I thought installing TWRP should BLOCK OTA automatically...is something going ot go horribly wrong at 1 AM PST and will it try to install Lollipop on my Note 4 anyways?
Please help!!
BUMP
Have a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2919543
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From that thread
I am on the NJ7 and can confirm any update check comes back with the "custom software, no updates for you" message.
Does it apply to ANK4? Unlike that poster - update check works for me...and it works a little too good and provides what is in each log.
Maybe it's because you rooted in a funny way?
Are you saying that rooting via the SuperSU UPDATE .zip and recovery is "funny?" I don't understand what's so funny about it. It's another method that isn't revolved around some auto-flash option.
It's still why you're getting ota's
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How'd you do it anyway? Abd?
What does CFAuto Root do differently that "blocks" OTAs? Just wondering what logical reasoning this is based on
I flashed TWRP with Odin - then I used UPDATE SUPERSU v2.6 .zip and installed via recovery. That was it. Launched SuperSU and it worked.
It looks more like you rooted the phone.
Custom binary, etc.
Are you sure you're rooted?
You can use rooted apps, etc.?
Did you trip Knox?
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Ota's won't go to rooted phones.
Yes. I am rooted. Is the method I did archaic or something? lol. I have SuperSU. I granted several apps root access - I have TWRP installed -and I used RootChecker and granted it access and it confirmed I have root as well.
Tripped knox...more than likely..not sure how to check
I rooted AFTER I got update notifications of TWO updates...perhaps a fluke?
Thank you for all your help )
It's fun talking with somebody with phone skills.
Just never saw anybody skip the cf-autoroot step.
Me.
I don't get the update notifications cause I'm lost in rom land.
You could probably kill the update process with titanium.
I'm just glad I'm finally getting some answers. I've been rooting across very different types of phones for a while, but each new release has its own weird...little grouped up programs and auto stuff. I tend to avoid all auto-solutions and opt for manual as possible.
what do you think about my deal with OTA? I didn't actually check for updates...its the same updates before root that are being notified to me
This search may help
http://www.google.com/search?site=&......1c..64.mobile-gws-hp..0.1.54.3.ehLqx9i8kTc
I've never run stock rooted for more than a day.
But, I know people stop the update nagging thing.
I uninstalled fotaclient.apk (one of the update's names) - along with the other update (incsyncmdl or something) and lastly FWUpgrade.apk.
I backed up Incsync and FWUpgrade..but not fotaclient. Say for purposes - i actually want to update or restore that...how would I find FOTAClient.apk again?
I guess it's no biggy..just breaks the in-phone updater...but still allows me to flash like normal unrooted stock roms in the future via Odin anyways
How are you uninstalling?
With titanium you can just freeze and then unthaw later.
But, you can always pull the apks out of one of the stockish roms in the Android development section.
I don't see the .apks in the Stock ANK4 rom. just recovery.img, boot.img and some unopenable .bin files...
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I can confirm that the latest update for the Verizon Moto Z Force patches the quadrooter vulnerabilities.
I took the risk and updated to see if it would and it did.
I would bet money that if you want to root this phone then DO NOT TAKE THIS UPDATE!
I figured this would happen, thank god I trusted my instincts and have been postponing the update since it came out.
Quadrooter doesn't help with unlocking the bootloader that we'd need for root on MM though(?).
Right, but still might have been useful for a soft root...
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Why would you softroot anyway? We have a BL unlock. Just wait for a recovery and flash su
We do?
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Soft root to hide soft keys in build prop to use lmt launcher for a full screen experience.
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Why would you softroot anyway? We have a BL unlock. Just wait for a recovery and flash su
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For Moto unlocked devices (developer editions) which have not been released yet.
This is a Verizon OTA for the Verizon Moto Z Force which have locked bootloaders with Verizon signed keys. Unless some amazing leak happens our bootloaders won't be unlocked anytime soon.
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For Moto unlocked devices (developer editions) which have not been released yet.
This is a Verizon OTA for the Verizon Moto Z Force which have locked bootloaders with Verizon signed keys. Unless some amazing leak happens our bootloaders won't be unlocked anytime soon.
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Does anyone know what to disable to disable the OTA updates?
Thanks
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Does anyone know what to disable to disable the OTA updates?
Thanks
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Need root for that. And with android 6.0 last time i check there is no way to root without a custom recovery. That requires an unlocked bootloader what will not happen.
Take the update root will never come.
bignazpwns said:
Need root for that. And with android 6.0 last time i check there is no way to root without a custom recovery. That requires an unlocked bootloader what will not happen.
Take the update root will never come.
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Thanks. I took the update. Actually 2. I guess my phone was a bit behind. But, I have been able in the past, using the Debloater tool, to disable the apk for updates. I just don't know what it is for this phone and none of them seem to sound like an update package. If we can identify the apk we can turn it off. Maybe it is done some other way on this phone.
bignazpwns said:
Need root for that. And with android 6.0 last time i check there is no way to root without a custom recovery. That requires an unlocked bootloader what will not happen.
Take the update root will never come.
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u can disable it without root lol just need to know what
hwy @jcase , was wondering if your new write is able to be utilized on the moto z force droid from verizon?
http://bbqand0days.com/Pork-Explosion-Unleashed/
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hwy @jcase , was wondering if your new write is able to be utilized on the moto z force droid from verizon?
http://bbqand0days.com/Pork-Explosion-Unleashed/
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Full details of both detecting possible vulnerable devices, as well as exploitation are in the post. Doing both is trivial.
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Full details of both detecting possible vulnerable devices, as well as exploitation are in the post. Doing both is trivial.
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haha ok, i guess i need to learn more anyways, i will reread it again and again until i understand it lol
thanks for publishing if course, crazy im just barely hearing about it lol seems like a really serious issue on exploitable devices for sure
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lol my phone says access denied trying to check any system files and the phone doesnt come with a usb cord to plug into the computer to check the commands but i do have an adapter from my note 7 so i will try it here in a bit when i get back home unless someone smarter than me or already checked it wants to chime in...
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i did research that foxconn does work with moto mobility on some level but wasnt able to narrow it down further than that, most news about foxconn is how they treat their employees and their suicides lol
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i did also notice they do work on the ps4 which is interesting...
well, there goes that idea.. i cant even get the pc to recognize the phone as an adb device
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i dont think our phone has adb or fastboot.. no matter what i try i cant get it to be recognized by adb or fastboot unless i am missing something
elliwigy said:
well, there goes that idea.. i cant even get the pc to recognize the phone as an adb device
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i dont think our phone has adb or fastboot.. no matter what i try i cant get it to be recognized by adb or fastboot unless i am missing something
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ADB works fine for me. Haven't had a use for fastboot yet, but I'm sure it works.
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PiousInquisitor said:
ADB works fine for me. Haven't had a use for fastboot yet, but I'm sure it works.
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what drivers did you use during install?
elliwigy said:
what drivers did you use during install?
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None. I use Linux.
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None. I use Linux.
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oh lol i got it to work, had to install drivers