Hello everyone,
I am new to this forum, though I have used a lot of information posted, this is my first post. Please, bear with me on this!
I have a Moto X Developer Edition running 4.2.2 on Verizon network. I don't mind 4.2.2 but I would enjoy updating to kit kat, my only concern is that when I do so I am no longer able to use FoxFi. I have unlimited data so it is important to me to have the ability to run the hotspot.
What I would like to accomplish with root:
Upgrade to Kit Kat
Run stock hotspot, use the 5GHz hotspot frequency band, and bypass provisions from Verizon just like FoxFi does.
I would like to also be able to revert back to the current state I am at now, whenever I want. (4.2.2 etc)
I am super excited to start playing with my dev ed phone but I want to do it right, and like I said I would like to revert back to an unrooted state with 4.2.2 with no issues, then reapply the root when I feel necessary. (don't know if this is possible)
If this all sounds possible please feel free to help me and you will not regret it. Thanks in advance!
Did Doe said:
Run stock hotspot and bypass provisions from Verizon just like FoxFi does.
Use the 5GHz hotspot frequency band
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Once you are on 4.4 and rooted, you can use either the Xposed Tethering Module or the Native tether for VZW DE 4.4 Hack
Did Doe said:
I would like to also be able to revert back to the current state I am at now, whenever I want. (4.2.2 etc)
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Once on 4.4, you can downgrade to 4.2.2 post-camera update by flashing the firmware. Make sure you only go back to the 4.2.2 post-camera update and not the pre-camera update. Trying to downgrade from 4.4. to the 4.2.2 pre-camera update will brick your device.
Once you upgrade to the 4.4.2 bootloader, you cannot downgrade so don't take the 4.4.2 OTA. Rather, you want to stay on the 4.4 bootloader (since it is the only downgradable bootloader) and selectively flash the 4.4.2 firmware once it is released if you want to run 4.4.2.
flashallthetime said:
The only OTA that can downgrade is 4.4 to 4.2.2 Post Cam. Here is what we know right now that might make more sense
4.4 to 4.2.2 Pre Cam will Brick
4.2.2 Post Cam to 4.2.2 Pre Cam will Brick.
4.4.2 to to anything will Brick
4.4 to 4.2.2 Post Cam you are ok
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Be sure and read this thread:
WARNING
Good start!
Cozume said:
Once you are on 4.4 and rooted, you can use either xposed module or the Native tether for VZW DE 4.4 Hack
Once on 4.4, you can downgrade to 4.2.2 post camera update by flashing the firmware. Make sure you only go back to the 4.2.2 post camera update and not the precamera update. Trying to downgrade from 4.4. to 4.2.2 precamera update will brick your device.
Once you go to 4.4.2 bootloader, you cannot downgrade so don't take the 4.4.2 OTA.
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This is useful information, but I was hoping for a bit more detailed walk through. I know that this post is going to get viewed a ton of times, so I will not be the only one that benefits from this. Thanks for the advise on how not to brick this is very important to me.
Good post but dig deeper people!
Did Doe said:
This is useful information, but I was hoping for a bit more detailed walk through. I know that this post is going to get viewed a ton of times, so I will not be the only one that benefits from this. Thanks for the advise on how not to brick this is very important to me.
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I put the link to the Xposed Tethering Module in my response to you.
Anyhow, everything you want to do can be done as long as by 4.2.2 you mean the 4.2.2 post-camera update. If by 4.2.2 you mean the pre-camera update, you cannot downgrade the 4.2.2 post-camera bootloader nor can you downgrade the 4.4 bootloader beyond the 4.2.2 post-camera update so you can't go from the 4.2.2 pre-camera update to Kit Kat and ever go back down to it.
Cozume said:
I put the link to the Xposed Tethering Module in my response to you.
Anyhow, everything you want to do can be done as long as by 4.2.2 you mean the 4.2.2 post-camera update. If by 4.2.2 you mean the pre-camera update, you cannot downgrade the 4.2.2 post-camera bootloader nor can you downgrade the 4.4 bootloader beyond the 4.2.2 post-camera update so you can't go from the 4.2.2 pre-camera update to Kit Kat and ever go back down to it.
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I have not update or messed with the phone in anyway. So does that mean I have 4.2.2 pre camera? I think I already mention how excited I am to get started with the tinkering.
Did Doe said:
I have not update or messed with the phone in anyway. So does that mean I have 4.2.2 pre camera? I think I already mention how excited I am to get started with the tinkering.
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What version does your phone say you are on?
You start by taking the 4.4 OTA. How are you blocking the annoying update messages, btw?
Also, are you unlocked already? Get unlocked if you haven't already but that wipes your device so get everything off of your device that you want off before you unlock the bootloader. Then once you are unlocked and have taken the 4.4 OTA, you can follow these instructions to get rooted.
Step-by-step instructions to get your Moto X Dev Ed running 4.4 unlocked and rooted
Cozume said:
What version does your phone say you are on?
You start by taking the 4.4 OTA. How are you blocking the annoying update messages, btw?
Also, are you unlocked already? Get unlocked if you haven't already but that wipes your device so get everything off of your device that you want off before you unlock the bootloader. Then once you are unlocked and have taken the 4.4 OTA, you can follow these instructions to get rooted.
Step-by-step instructions to get your Moto X Dev Ed running 4.4 unlocked and rooted
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And how am I supposed to go back to 4.2.2?
Cozume said:
What version does your phone say you are on?
You start by taking the 4.4 OTA. How are you blocking the annoying update messages, btw?
Also, are you unlocked already? Get unlocked if you haven't already but that wipes your device so get everything off of your device that you want off before you unlock the bootloader. Then once you are unlocked and have taken the 4.4 OTA, you can follow these instructions to get rooted.
Step-by-step instructions to get your Moto X Dev Ed running 4.4 unlocked and rooted
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I have just ignored the update and my phone says I'm on 4.2.2. Its the stock OTA
Did Doe said:
And how am I supposed to go back to 4.2.2?
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To go back to 4.2.2 POST-camera, you flash the firmware for 4.2.2.
sbf firmware
You can never go back to 4.2.2 PRE-camera once you update beyond it.
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Did Doe said:
I have just ignored the update and my phone says I'm on 4.2.2. Its the stock OTA
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What version of the 4.2.2? Go into settings and about phone and status and it will tell you.
Did Doe said:
I have just ignored the update and my phone says I'm on 4.2.2. Its the stock OTA
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I see you're excited to tinker,so unless you want a paperweight, I suggest you do some homework first.
Everything you are asking for is already here in stickies, other threads and hundreds of posts.
You can say I'm being a jerk...but trust me, if you don't study up on this stuff you will one day regret it. There's tonnes of info here already.
Us "digging deeper" to lay it out for you isn't going to give you any of the tools to do this stuff trouble free. Just read about all the bricked devices and you'll see what I'm trying to say.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
kj2112 said:
Everything you are asking for is already here in stickies, other threads and hundreds of posts.
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And if you only had hundreds of free hours to read them you would be good to go.
Cozume said:
To go back to 4.2.2 POST-camera, you flash the firmware for 4.2.2.
sbf firmware
You can never go back to 4.2.2 PRE-camera once you update beyond it.
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What version of the 4.2.2? Go into settings and about phone and status and it will tell you.
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139.10.53.ghost verizon
Did Doe said:
139.10.53.ghost verizon
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If you go back to the sbf firmware link above, you will see that is the pre-camera version of 4.2.2 because it is the lower number of the two 4.2.2 versions. Again, you can never go back to that once you update. It is a one way street.
I don't know if the post-camera 4.2.2 allowed native tethering without root because I didn't stay on that version long enough to know. I wanted kit kat.
The pre-camera update camera is unusable. Don't know how you could stay on it.
Cozume said:
If you go back to the sbf firmware link above, you will see that is the pre-camera version of 4.2.2 because it is the lower number of the two 4.2.2 versions. Again, you can never go back to that once you update. It is a one way street.
I don't know if the post-camera 4.2.2 allowed native tethering without root because I didn't stay on that version long enough to know. I wanted kit kat.
The pre-camera update camera is unusable. Don't know how you could stay on it.
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Its stock OTA. I have been just ignoring the update. I will update. Unlock root then flash the post cam and I'll will let you know how it goes. If I have more question I'll let you know. Till then.. Thanks!
I've had a cleanup here guys and I'd prefer not to have to return for the same reasons.
I've you've got nothing constructive to add to the thread, don't even bother posting here.
Cozume said:
And if you only had hundreds of free hours to read them you would be good to go.
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Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!
Even though we had a nuisance, you guided me to a victorious root!!!!!
Now I shall work on the tether. I will let you know what I get.
Thanks again
Cozume said:
If you go back to the sbf firmware link above, you will see that is the pre-camera version of 4.2.2 because it is the lower number of the two 4.2.2 versions. Again, you can never go back to that once you update. It is a one way street.
I don't know if the post-camera 4.2.2 allowed native tethering without root because I didn't stay on that version long enough to know. I wanted kit kat.
The pre-camera update camera is unusable. Don't know how you could stay on it.
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All went extremely well. Updated. I unlocked my phone. Rooted. Got the tether working. Went back to 4.2.2 and now I am back rooted on kit kat. Thank you, you are beautiful!!!
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So I am planning on rooting my Verizon Moto Maker locked bootloader Moto X running 4.4 before the 4.4.2 OTA gets pushed and I want to safely stay rooted. Here is what I am planning on doing and please correct me if I am wrong or doing things unnecessarily:
1) Save my custom wallpaper using these instructions:
How to Pull Custom Wallpaper
2) Root using Slap My Moto method
- here it the 4.4 OTA if 4.4.2 has already come out by the time I do this
Verizon 4.4 OTA
3) Make an EFS b/u
4) Install Titanium b/u and make a post-root b/u
5) Use Titanium b/u to freeze MotorolaOTA so that the 4.4.2 OTA won't be pushed to my device
- will freezing MotorolaOTA stop the OTA from being downloaded or will it just stop the notification popup?
6) Uninstall Motorola Device Manager from my PC so that it won't try to upgrade my phone's OS every time I connect my phone to my PC
- is there any way to stop MDM from checking for updates without uninstalling it?
- will I lose the Motorola drivers for my Moto X if I uninstall MDM?
Also when am I supposed to wipe my dalvik cache wrt back ups and rooting? Am I supposed to clear any other cache or data anywhere along the way?
Then after I root, I can selectively flash the 4.4.2 update:
Slap My Moto Page 150
Important Warning Before Flashing 4.4.2 Page 15
System.img, boot.img, non-hlos.bin and fsg.mbn
Cozume said:
So I am planning on rooting my Verizon Moto Maker locked bootloader Moto X running 4.4 before the 4.4.2 OTA gets pushed and I want to safely stay rooted. Here is what I am planning on doing and please correct me if I am wrong or doing things unnecessarily:
1) Flash TWRP and boot into it to make a pre-root nandroid b/u
- I know the custom recovery won't stick when I reboot, just doing it to make a pre-root b/u
- is this necessary as long as the sbf firmware is available?
2) Root using Slap My Moto method
3) Make an EFS b/u
4) Install Titanium b/u and make a post-root b/u
5) Use Titanium b/u to freeze MotorolaOTA so that the OTA won't be pushed to my device
- will freezing MotorolaOTA stop the OTA from being downloaded or will it just stop the notification popup?
6) Uninstall Motorola Device Manager from my PC so that it won't try to upgrade my phone's OS every time I connect my phone to my PC
- is there any way to stop MDM from checking for updates without uninstalling it?
- will I lose the Motorola drivers for my Moto X if I uninstall MDM?
Also when am I supposed to wipe my dalvik cache wrt back ups and rooting? Am I supposed to clear any other cache or data anywhere along the way?
Also, I can't hit the thanks button anymore today but if you help me I will come back tomorrow and hit it, I promise!
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Flashing twrp while having a locked boot loader? Idk
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
flashallthetime said:
Flashing twrp while having a locked boot loader? Idk
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Thanks for pointing that out. I read that on a site about backing up that I could do that if I wasn't rooted, but it didn't specify I had to have an unlocked bootloader to do it.
Seriously I am thanking you but I hope you see it from the point of noobs like me, too. I really am reading and trying but that very basic point went over my head. There is so much to try to absorb when you are learning that sometimes the very basic stuff gets missed.
And I am trying to learn both unlocked and locked bootloader methods and not always keeping it straight in my head.
Cozume said:
Thanks for pointing that out. I read that on a site about backing up that I could do that if I wasn't rooted, but it didn't specify I had to have an unlocked bootloader to do it.
Seriously I am thanking you but I hope you see it from the point of noobs like me, too. I really am reading and trying but that very basic point went over my head. There is so much to try to absorb when you are learning that sometimes the very basic stuff gets missed.
And I am trying to learn both unlocked and locked bootloader methods and not always keeping it straight in my head.
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well good! you're on the right track. 3 best pieces of advice here:
1. Search first
2. Read alot (yes even some long threads with several pages)
3. Then Q & A is here for you.
Glad you're being safe with your exepnsive device, some noobs usually shoot first ask questions later.
Cozume said:
Thanks for pointing that out. I read that on a site about backing up that I could do that if I wasn't rooted, but it didn't specify I had to have an unlocked bootloader to do it.
Seriously I am thanking you but I hope you see it from the point of noobs like me, too. I really am reading and trying but that very basic point went over my head. There is so much to try to absorb when you are learning that sometimes the very basic stuff gets missed.
And I am trying to learn both unlocked and locked bootloader methods and not always keeping it straight in my head.
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Flashing a custom recovery always requires a unlocked boot loader, On a more serious note, I would wait for the Verizon ota to arrive and see how folks manage to root their phones, if its possible?
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
flashallthetime said:
On a more serious note, I would wait for the Verizon ota to arrive and see how folks manage to root their phones, if its possible?
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I want to do it now in case the exploit is closed forever in 4.4.2. Then if someone comes up with a new way to root 4.4.2, I can unroot, revert to stock and take the update then, right?
Cozume said:
I want to do it now in case the exploit is closed forever in 4.4.2. Then if someone comes up with a new way to root 4.4.2, I can unroot, revert to stock and take the update then, right?
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No, wait and see what happens, it makes sense flash 4.4.2 now, it won't make any difference now or later, second point is, you can not flash the 4.4.2 sbf firmware as Verizon's version is not available why?,your boot loader is locked, you not flash any sbf with a locked. boot loader, you can ONLY flash your specific carriers sbf firmware. Read please. I have 6 months of moto x experience behind me, been here from day 1
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
My advice. Root it now, wait it out. If they can't come up with an exploit for 4.4.2, sell your phone, get a developer edition then you can do whatever you want.
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!
SymbioticGenius said:
My advice. Root it now, wait it out. If they can't come up with an exploit for 4.4.2, sell your phone, get a developer edition then you can do whatever you want.
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yeah, but it will cause me great sadness to sell my beautiful wood backed baby!!!
flashallthetime said:
it won't make any difference now or later
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well, yes it would because if I take the OTA then I won't be rooted unless someone finds an exploit for 4.4.2 and I will never be rooted if someone doesn't.
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, second point is, you can not flash the 4.4.2 sbf firmware as Verizon's version is not available why?,your boot loader is locked, you not flash any sbf with a locked. boot loader, you can ONLY flash your specific carriers sbf firmware.
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I am getting confused now. If I stay on 4.4 rooted and something happens to my device, can I or can't I flash the sbf for Verizon 4.4 with a locked bootloader to restore my device?
Maybe I wasn't clear but my plan is to root on 4.4 and stay there by freezing MotorolaOTA, which is the app that installs the updates and sends the annoying message. I was going to stay on 4.4 rooted and not upgrade to 4.4.2 unless someone can come up with a way to root it with a locked bootloader.
Cozume said:
yeah, that is my plan. But it will cause me great sadness to sell my beautiful wood backed baby!!!
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Go for it root it now, I have no idea which sbf firmware you can flash that won't brick your device and I guess we'll see you back with the developer edition. Did you read my previous post? Is Verizon's or at&t 4.4.2 firmware available? Not last time I checked. Locked bootloaders can not flash any sbf firmware only your specific carriers sbf firmware can be flashed
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
flashallthetime said:
Go for it root it now, I have no idea which sbf firmware you can flash that won't brick your device and I guess we'll see you back with the developer edition. Did you read my previous post? Is Verizon's or at&t 4.4.2 firmware available? Not last time I checked. Locked bootloaders can not flash any sbf firmware only your specific carriers sbf firmware can be flashed
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Did you read my previous post:
My Previous Post
My plan is to NEVER flash 4.4.2 unless someone can root 4.4.2. Then I would unroot and take the OTA, not flash anything. Can't I unroot on 4.4 and take the OTA?
Cozume said:
Did you read my previous post:
My Previous Post
My plan is to NEVER flash 4.4.2 unless someone can root 4.4.2. Then I would unroot and take the OTA, not flash anything. Can't I unroot on 4.4 and take the OTA?
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No one knows yet for sure what and will not work for the 4.4.2 ota, you'll just have to wait. Probably the only way is keep the 4.4 boot loader while running the 4.4.2 system only but its all speculation until the ota comes out
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
flashallthetime said:
No one knows yet for sure what and will not work for the 4.4.2 ota, you'll just have to wait. Probably the only way is keep the 4.4 boot loader while running the 4.4.2 system only but its all speculation until the ota comes out
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I am not planning on taking the 4.4.2 OTA. The whole point of freezing MotorolaOTA is to block the OTA.
Hi, tried searching my answer, but still not clear as to the answer for my situation, im about to purchase the unlock code for my non DE verizon moto x , code is from someone from china. If i upgrade to 4.4.2 while unlocked bootloader, any way back to 4.2.2 post camera update. Thanks
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Hi, tried searching my answer, but still not clear as to the answer for my situation, im about to purchase the unlock code for my non DE verizon moto x , code is from someone from china. If i upgrade to 4.4.2 while unlocked bootloader, any way back to 4.2.2 post camera update. Thanks
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Yes and No
No you can not flash the complete 4.2.2 PCU package it will fail because you can't downgrade the bootloader
Yes because you can flash everything but the bootloader and it will take but if you accidentally take a OTA. you will brick your device.
but if you are able to unlock your bootloader then why would you want to downgrade. with a unlocked bootloader you will be able to root 4.4.2 with no issues
because when I was on 4.4, I had some battery consumption and heating issues also bluetooth was not perfect, I just wanted to make sure I have a way back To 4.2.2
also, not being able to downgrade the bootloader, in which way does this affect me going back to four point 4.2.2?
Your phone will work fine but like i said if you ever take a ota it will brick your phone
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dray_jr said:
Your phone will work fine but like i said if you ever take a ota it will brick your phone
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ota will brick, will be able to rsd to 4.4 or 4.4.2 if wanted?
Yup that is correct
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ericizzy1 said:
ota will brick, will be able to rsd to 4.4 or 4.4.2 if wanted?
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No. Once you start mixing bootloader versions with system file versions (i.e. 4.4.2 bootloader with 4.2.2 system files), RSD Lite won't work. You will have to use a command line and mfastboot.exe to manually flash each partition.
And I actually tried to run 4.2.2 (post camera update) system files with a 4.4.2 bootloader and it would not boot; however, 4.4 system files do work with a 4.4.2 bootloader.
This has actually been discussed at great length and detail in this forum and A LOT of people were bricking their phones playing around with bootloader versions, just like you are talking about doing. At one point there was a sticky dedicated to it, but its since disappeared from the board for some reason.
To put it simply, please don't start mixing bootloader versions with system files. If you like 4.2.2, don't upgrade to 4.4.2. If you are on 4.4, then you can still downgrade to 4.2.2 (post camera update version). Do that and stay there. But if you upgrade to 4.4.2, don't fool around with it and start trying to downgrade. There is no point, and you will likely end up bricking your phone.
It's your phone, so do what you want, but you have been warned (by someone with personal experience by the way). If you do brick it, please don't start another "OMG! HELP ME!! I BRICKED MY PHONE!!" thread. There's plenty of those already floating around here. :good:
Recently i rooted my moto x trying to update the software, i installed cyanogenmod 11 but i just keep getting crash reports, i really want to install the '' normal '' ? 4.4.4 i am sorry for my lack of knowledge about this topic, but can someone give me a official link to download? my moto x is XT1055
Thanks
Josue96 said:
Recently i rooted my moto x trying to update the software, i installed cyanogenmod 11 but i just keep getting crash reports, i really want to install the '' normal '' ? 4.4.4 i am sorry for my lack of knowledge about this topic, but can someone give me a official link to download? my moto x is XT1055
Thanks
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The xt1055 doesn't have 4.4.4 yet. You can install stock 4.4.2 - just find the thread in general titled 'return to 100% stock'. Everything you need is there.
samwathegreat said:
The xt1055 doesn't have 4.4.4 yet. You can install stock 4.4.2 - just find the thread in general titled 'return to 100% stock'. Everything you need is there.
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Do you think the 4.4.4 update is going to be released soon?
also, if i return to 100% stock, will i be able to install the new update normally ? i mean without downloading it to the pc, etc
Thank you very much!!
Josue96 said:
Do you think the 4.4.4 update is going to be released soon?
also, if i return to 100% stock, will i be able to install the new update normally ? i mean without downloading it to the pc, etc
Thank you very much!!
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It will probably be released soon but I have no way of knowing.
Yes, if you flash to stock 4.4.2, you can take the ota normally with no PC. That is assuming you don't flash custom recovery or modify /system. If you do, you cannot take the ota normally. You must flash stock recovery back first and undo any significant changes to /system. That means no Xposed, etc.
If you want further details, search XDA for how to take an ota update.
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It will probably be released soon but I have no way of knowing.
Yes, if you flash to stock 4.4.2, you can take the ota normally with no PC. That is assuming you don't flash custom recovery or modify /system. If you do, you cannot take the ota normally. You must flash stock recovery back first and undo any significant changes to /system. That means no Xposed, etc.
If you want further details, search XDA for how to take an ota update.
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i think i did... i unlocked bootloader and rooted the phone, moved some files to the phone too, i dont really know lol
Josue96 said:
i think i did... i unlocked bootloader and rooted the phone, moved some files to the phone too, i dont really know lol
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I said that's assuming you 'don't' (not didn't) do those things -- you will receive the OTA as normal AFTER following the instructions in the return to stock thread to return to 100% stock.
Once you "return to stock" you will be 100% stock - any past changes won't matter.
IF **AFTER** you follow the return to stock guide to return to full stock 4.4.2, you flash TWRP and/or modify files in /system, you can't take the OTA until you un-do all of those changes.
Understand? Nothing you did or have done previously matters. All that matters is what you do AFTER you return to stock...
Josue96 said:
Recently i rooted my moto x trying to update the software, i installed cyanogenmod 11 but i just keep getting crash reports, i really want to install the '' normal '' ? 4.4.4 i am sorry for my lack of knowledge about this topic, but can someone give me a official link to download? my moto x is XT1055
Thanks
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If you want Stock images Found here for your dive
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
Choose your device and download insatll using RSD lite it will go 100% stock then if any updates 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 download automatically shows in your mobile .
Hello all,
I am on a stock rooted 4.4 rom (verizon). I just used the Sunshine bootloader unlock and I'm curious about the best way to get to 4.4.4.
Should I:
a. Revert back to JB and just take all the OTAs?
b. Or is there a way to just flash 4.4.4 with a custom recovery?
Another question is that once I get to 4.4.4, the unlocked bootloader will still be there and I can put a custom recovery and just flash SuperSU right?
The final question is do I even want to update from 4.4 to 4.4.4, nothing really changed right? Would you do it or just wait for Android L?
Thanks!
streetlightman said:
I am on a stock rooted 4.4 rom (verizon). I just used the Sunshine bootloader unlock and I'm curious about the best way to get to 4.4.4.
Should I:
a. Revert back to JB and just take all the OTAs?
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No. First I would make a nandroid of your stock rooted 4.4.
Then, if you want to keep your data, flash the 4.4 stock recovery and unroot. You said you are on a stock system, but make sure you disable the Xposed installer (not just install it but disable it) if you installed it and revert any changes to your system that you made including unfreezing any apps before you take any OTAs.
Once you have done all of that, I would just let the OTAs do the rest.
If you don't want to keep your data, you can flash the 4.4.4 sbf using RSDLite.
streetlightman said:
The final question is do I even want to update from 4.4 to 4.4.4, nothing really changed right?
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A lot changed including the camera improvements.
Wansanta said:
No. First I would make a nandroid of your stock rooted 4.4.
Then, if you want to keep your data, flash the 4.4 stock recovery and unroot. You said you are on a stock system, but make sure you disable the Xposed installer (not just install it but disable it) if you installed it and revert any changes to your system that you made including unfreezing any apps before you take any OTAs.
Once you have done all of that, I would just let the OTAs do the rest.
If you don't want to keep your data, you can flash the 4.4.4 sbf using RSDLite.
A lot changed including the camera improvements.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't care too much about my data so I wouldn't mind SBfing back to JB. The reason I'd rather do that is because i can't remember what apps I froze (deleted) and I removed the updater APK so it wouldn't annoy me. Would reverting back to JB affect the unlocked bootloader? It shouldn't right?
streetlightman said:
Thanks for the reply. I don't care too much about my data so I wouldn't mind SBfing back to JB. The reason I'd rather do that is because i can't remember what apps I froze (deleted) and I removed the updater APK so it wouldn't annoy me. Would reverting back to JB affect the unlocked bootloader? It shouldn't right?
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What is the point of downgrading to jelly bean?
If you froze apps, they will show up in titanium backup as frozen. If you deleted system apps, you are not stock. So what you are running is a rooted 4.4 that is not stock b/c you deleted system apps. You can flash 4.4.4 without having to remember the changes you made. Then you can flash TWRP and reroot using SuperSU.
You can't downgrade anyways. Unless you want a paperweight. Not even sbfing will do it. Sorry brother. I'm only telling you this for your own good. Please listen.
Download the 4.4.4 sbf, unzip it, flash the contents in bootloader. You can find a guide in the General subforum.
ryanzurlo88 said:
You can't downgrade anyways. Unless you want a paperweight. Not even sbfing will do it. Sorry brother. I'm only telling you this for your own good. Please listen.
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Depends on what you are trying to downgrade.
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Depends on what you are trying to downgrade.
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So your saying... That I have a vzw Dev ed moto x. 4.4.4. I can take it and downgrade it to 4.4.2 and then flash the gsm 4.4.2? I just use it on WiFi only anyways. Cause I'm trying to get the stock moto x firmware with no carrier bloatware. Right now the vzw has 9 bloatware apps. I have the att 4.4.4 ROM right now with only 4 bloatware apps. I want no bloatware WITHOUT using tb and others
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So your saying... That I have a vzw Dev ed moto x. 4.4.4. I can take it and downgrade it to 4.4.2
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Yes, you can downgrade to the 4.4.2 system. If you try to flash the 4.4.2 bootloader or partition table, it will fail. But you can downgrade to the 4.4.2 system. Once upgraded the bootloader and partition table are not downgradeable but if you try to flash them you will get a failure, not a brick. As long as you have an unlocked bootloader and can get to bootloader mode, you don't have a brick.
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and then flash the gsm 4.4.2?
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I don't know anything about trying to flash the XT1053 system to a XT1060 device.
ryanzurlo88 said:
Cause I'm trying to get the stock moto x firmware with no carrier bloatware. Right now the vzw has 9 bloatware apps.
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I just remove those via Titanium Backup. Which ones do you want removed and I can tell you if I have removed them and what happened when I did.
You only need the TiBU PRO key if you are freezing apps, not removing apps.
Well like I said I have att moto x rom on a vzw moto x. I just want the straight plain ROM with no tinkering
ryanzurlo88 said:
Well like I said I have att moto x rom on a vzw moto x. I just want the straight plain ROM with no tinkering
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The att system has carrier bloat, too. Do you mean the XT1053 - Tmobile/unlocked GSM system?
Yeah. I'm waiting on an sbf/fxz for it. Unless you've found it?
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Yeah. I'm waiting on an sbf/fxz for it. Unless you've found it?
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The latest official sbf for the XT1053 is 4.4.3 unless someone made an unofficial fxz for it.
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
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Yeah. I'm waiting on an sbf/fxz for it. Unless you've found it?
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A lot of talk lately about downgrading being ok on 4.4.2 or higher.....and well there can be a very particular way to do it, without downgrading the bootloader....there are many ways to make a mistake and end up with a brick. This warning seems to be missing from some of the downgrade talk I've been seeing around.
The veterans of this device and XDA will always flat out say no....You can't downgrade. Why? Because if we try to guide anyone through downgrading, or advise them they can.....mistakes happen, and we don't want to be partially responsible for anyone destroying their device.
So, best (aka safest) advice, is to wait for the files you need. Then flash them fairly risk free.
Or try to downgrade.....but know the risks. ?
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If anyone disagrees.....ask these people how downgrading went for them...
https://www.google.ca/search?redir_...ed+xda+site:forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en-US
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I have new Verizon Moto X Dev Edition. Messed up. Thought it was already on 4.4.2. Not, it's on 4.2.2. Unlocked bootloader and installed twrp and rooted. Wanting to update it to 4.4.2. Thinking from reading that I need to get back to stock recovery for OTA update if that is possible over wifi since phone is not activated yet. Can't find 4.2.2 stock recovery and not sure if that is what I need to do anyway. Is that what I need to do and/or is there a better way? Thanks
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I have new Verizon Moto X Dev Edition. Messed up. Thought it was already on 4.4.2. Not, it's on 4.2.2. Unlocked bootloader and installed twrp and rooted. Wanting to update it to 4.4.2. Thinking from reading that I need to get back to stock recovery for OTA update if that is possible over wifi since phone is not activated yet. Can't find 4.2.2 stock recovery and not sure if that is what I need to do anyway. Is that what I need to do and/or is there a better way? Thanks
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Well I too have a Dev Edition but is SIM-Unlocked so it isn't Verizon.
If all you want to do is update, you could install Custom ROM although you will lose Motorola's Active Display, Always Listening etc...
If you want complete stock and have to reflash TWRP and root your phone, you will need to flash the stock firmware using fastboot or a utility.
Finally found 4.2.2 . When trying RSD fail at gpt bin, also fails there with manual flashing. Any ideas?
Edit...Finally got it. Different version of 4.2.2 did it.
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Well I too have a Dev Edition but is SIM-Unlocked so it isn't Verizon.
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Um, all VZW Moto Xs are SIM-unlocked.
dukeoid said:
Finally found 4.2.2 . When trying RSD fail at gpt bin, also fails there with manual flashing. Any ideas?
Edit...Finally got it. Different version of 4.2.2 did it.
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I hope it wasn't the pre-camera 4.2.2....or you might be in a tough spot now.... Risking a brick. ?
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Unless the first firmware was also pre camera... Then you're OK.
dukeoid said:
I have new Verizon Moto X Dev Edition. Messed up. Thought it was already on 4.4.2. Not, it's on 4.2.2. Unlocked bootloader and installed twrp and rooted. Wanting to update it to 4.4.2. Thinking from reading that I need to get back to stock recovery for OTA update if that is possible over wifi since phone is not activated yet. Can't find 4.2.2 stock recovery and not sure if that is what I need to do anyway. Is that what I need to do and/or is there a better way? Thanks
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dukeoid said:
Finally found 4.2.2 . When trying RSD fail at gpt bin, also fails there with manual flashing. Any ideas?
Edit...Finally got it. Different version of 4.2.2 did it.
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Taking OTA's is incremental, so if you are the initial shipping 4.2.2 you need to take the first 4.2.2 w/camera OTA, then the 4.4 OTA, then the 4.4.2 OTA... a real time waster and pain in the rear.
Best way... Grab the SBF for the version you want to be on, and flash it... i.e. you mention going to 4.4.2, so... grab the 4.4.2 SBF and flash it.
Since you have a Dev Edition, why not just go to 4.4.4? it has a few bug fixes, and is stable. For me and many others its no worse than 4.4.2 as far as performance and battery.
Once you arrive on the ROM you want, you can flash TWRP and root.
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Best way... Grab the SBF for the version you want to be on, and flash it... i.e. you mention going to 4.4.2, so... grab the 4.4.2 SBF and flash it.
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OTA'ed to 4.4.2. But for future reference you can skip versions and SBF to the one you want??
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OTA'ed to 4.4.2. But for future reference you can skip versions and SBF to the one you want??
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Yup! ?
As long as it's not a lower version.
dukeoid said:
OTA'ed to 4.4.2. But for future reference you can skip versions and SBF to the one you want??
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OTA = Incremental. Only patches the changed/updated parts.
SBF/FXZ = "all inclusive" or "image files".. and overwrites entire partitions/parts.
So yes. You can just flash the newer SBF file. (As @Darth said... as long as the SBF you are flashing is NEWER than the version on your phone... i.e. NEVER DOWNGRADE)