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I have been wondering about the SAR rating on the Tytn 2, and what affect the different radios has on this rating.
I like my phones to have lower SAR ratings, but it appears the default AT&T Radio comes with a 1.4 W/kg rating (According to the TILT Manual)
However, I look at the rating on the Kaiser (HTC Manual) and see a much lower rating of .70 W/kg.
I was wondering if there was any way to know the SAR Ratings of the different radios for the Kaiser, and if I could change mine accordingly???
That's an interesting question. I would be curious to know the answer myself.
-Jay
anyone have any information concerning this issue?
Glad I went with the TYTN II.
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Glad I went with the TYTN II.
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lol ok.....
but again, my theory is it's just the default radio that changes this.
So install a new radio, and problem solved.
Anyone have some info ?
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I have been wondering about the SAR rating on the Tytn 2, and what affect the different radios has on this rating.
I like my phones to have lower SAR ratings, but it appears the default AT&T Radio comes with a 1.4 W/kg rating (According to the TILT Manual)
However, I look at the rating on the Kaiser (HTC Manual) and see a much lower rating of .70 W/kg.
I was wondering if there was any way to know the SAR Ratings of the different radios for the Kaiser, and if I could change mine accordingly???
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Don't worry. Both values are the same. The way of measuring the sar value is the reason of the difference. (in europe the max sar is measured in 10g of tissue cube, in US they use a 1g of tissue cube)
The only real difference is the maximum alowed sar.
see: http://www.sarvalues.com/index.html
Anyone know what is the SAR radiation level for HTC One ? Haven't been able to find any info online
32GB
Head: 1.26 W/kg
Body: 0.69 W/kg
Product Specific Use: 0.69 W/kg
Simultaneous Transmission:1.58 W/kg
64GB
Head:1.16 W/kg
Body:0.72 W/kg
Product Specific Use: 0.72 W/kg
Simultaneous Transmission:1.45 W/kg
All I know is that in comparison samsung plastic phones never go past 0,4 W/kg even 0.2 on the note 2.
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All I know is that in comparison samsung plastic phones never go past 0,4 W/kg even 0.2 on the note 2.
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S3
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Head:0.49 W/kg
Body:1.02 W/kg
Product Specific Use:1.02 W/kg
Simultaneous Transmission:1.58 W/kg
S4
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Head:0.52 W/kg
Body:1.10 W/kg
Product Specific Use:1.10 W/kg
Simultaneous Transmission:1.58 W/kg
Note2
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Head:0.17 W/kg
Body:0.40 W/kg
Product Specific Use:0.94 W/kg
Simultaneous Transmission:0.95 W/kg
fcc.gov/guides/specific-absorption-rate-sar-cell-phones-what-it-means-you
I am confused as when i called samsung and on there website for the sprint version its SAR rating are
Head .98 w/kg
body 1.58 w/kg
Where are people getting the lower ratings from?
Also all phones i have looked at the head is lower than body why would the htc one be different
I called them and they only have 1.26 w/kg but dont know if thats head or body
online i find
Head 1.26 w/kg
body .69 w/kg
So these mean that when on the phone your head gets exposed to that much "Heating" or radiation and body is how much your waist gets when holstered to your side?
I am just interested on how these numbers work . To me if the different cell phones are on the same freequency and same distance from a tower it should be similar ratings or they would not get the same signal?? Im just confused on how this works.
I dont see how you can have a lower rating and have the same service?
Thanks for any input on this!
Did you read the link directly above your post? Let me make it hot-clickable for you:
http://www.fcc.gov/guides/specific-absorption-rate-sar-cell-phones-what-it-means-you
Some of those questions are answered there.
Somehow I clicked thanks even though my actual feeling about your post was less than thankful. Anyway welcome to XDA. Now you have one post, and one thanks.
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Did you read the link directly above your post? Let me make it hot-clickable for you:
Some of those questions are answered there.
Somehow I clicked thanks even though my actual feeling about your post was less than thankful. Anyway welcome to XDA. Now you have one post, and one thanks.
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I didnt mean to make anyone mad i did read that but dont understand how body vs head is opsite what the other phones are? the head is higher than body on the one but the others body is higher!
So all the websites saying look for a lower SAR rating really dont mean anything as thats the max output on the given phone with all freequncys used so it really depends on what carrier you have and freequency is used to find the true reading for the phone!
And SAR dosnt really give real world infor for comparison just because one phones max is hight it might run lower than the phone with a lower max.
Not mad, it just didn't sound like a lot of research had been done first. But I guess you've put some thought into this so I'll lighten up.
All the things you bring up are valid reasons why a single SAR number doesn't help you predict how much radiation you are getting at any given moment.
They are what they are: a way to compare the worst-case performance of two phones.
First paragraph of wikipedia article explains head vs body thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_absorption_rate
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The maximum difference in SAR level between any two phones is equivalent to a 0.1°C change in ambient temperature*.
Most people wouldn't consider that particularly significant.
*The number is made up, but probably not far off.
Why would anybody care about the SAR level?
Hopefully we won't have any reason to care. But before you sound so smug just remember there's a difference between *expecting* that 100 years of radiation near your body won't hurt anyone and *knowing* that 100 years of radiation near your body didn't hurt anyone. We are running an uncontrolled experiment on the entire population of the earth and there is no real precedent for this. I share your optimism that this will be no big deal. Or if it is, we'll fix it as soon as it becomes clear. Still, we won't *know* how it plays out until we have a generation of kids that grows into old age after having been marinated in this stuff for an entire lifespan.
Isn't there anyone a bit worried about the high SAR value(radiation) of the s10?
Looking at the attached link, there are worse phones.
I haven't had any issues with my S8+, which is similar and both are within allowable limits.
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model-sar/f0d64f1d
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Isn't there anyone a bit worried about the high SAR value(radiation) of the s10?
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This is directly from the FCC,
"ALL cell phones must meet the FCC’s RF exposure standard, which is set at a level well below that at which laboratory testing indicates, and medical and biological experts generally agree, adverse health effects could OCCUR."
Tel864 said:
This is directly from the FCC,
"ALL cell phones must meet the FCC’s RF exposure standard, which is set at a level well below that at which laboratory testing indicates, and medical and biological experts generally agree, adverse health effects could OCCUR."
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It must not be 1.6 and above... S10 is 1.5 something... Very near to 1.6... It's now like the oneplus and xiaomi phones. Very worrying trend... Samsung phones used to have the lowest values
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It must not be 1.6 and above... S10 is 1.5 something... Very near to 1.6... It's now like the oneplus and xiaomi phones. Very worrying trend... Samsung phones used to have the lowest values
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Worrying? Did you read the post by @Tel864? Level well below that causes health effects. We're fine.
Tel864 said:
This is directly from the FCC,
"ALL cell phones must meet the FCC’s RF exposure standard, which is set at a level well below that at which laboratory testing indicates, and medical and biological experts generally agree, adverse health effects could OCCUR."
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It must not be 1.6 and above... S10 is 1.5 something... Very near to 1.6... It's now like the oneplus and xiaomi phones. Very worrying trend... Samsung phones used to have the lowest values
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Are you vegan?
mab71 said:
It must not be 1.6 and above... S10 is 1.5 something... Very near to 1.6... It's now like the oneplus and xiaomi phones. Very worrying trend... Samsung phones used to have the lowest values
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Hold your breath there is carbon monoxide in the air, brace yourself for 5G, oh and the zombie apocalypse is coming
Seriously yes we are living in a toxic world, adapt we must.....
mab71 said:
It must not be 1.6 and above... S10 is 1.5 something... Very near to 1.6... It's now like the oneplus and xiaomi phones. Very worrying trend... Samsung phones used to have the lowest values
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Keep in mind that those values are from tests conducted on mice and according to some experts, you would have to keep the phone to your ear 10 hours a day for months to even have a chance of getting harmful radiation.
One warning though, I would keep you mouse off the phone as much a possible because we know how they love to talk.
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Keep in mind that those values are from tests conducted on mice and according to some experts, you would have to keep the phone to your ear 10 hours a day for months to even have a chance of getting harmful radiation.
One warning though, I would keep you mouse off the phone as much a possible because we know how they love to talk.
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Any link to verify this?
Non ionizing radiation, yeah not concerned. The only way cellular radiation hurts you is the warning it can cause, and the power levels needed are orders of magnitude larger to appreciably raise your tissues temperature.
I think u guys don't know about the exynos versions... All of them have near the limit values..
European Union - 2.0
US - 1.6
If the numbers bother you then don't buy the phone. It's been deemed safe because those numbers are well below the danger levels. If the phone is taped to your head then you have a problem, if not, the sky isn't falling and the phone is safe.
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European Union - 2.0
US - 1.6
If the numbers bother you then don't buy the phone. It's been deemed safe because those numbers are well below the danger levels. If the phone is taped to your head then you have a problem, if not, the sky isn't falling and the phone is safe.
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U act as if u know everything... The radiation levels indicated are not only for head but also body distance from the phone.. So if people play games for hours or put the phone in their pockets for a long time there is bound to be some effect.
Nobody's asking u not to buy the phone... It's your head and body. No need to talk about the sky falling.
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U act as if u know everything... The radiation levels indicated are not only for head but also body distance from the phone.. So if people play games for hours or put the phone in their pockets for a long time there is bound to be some effect.
Nobody's asking u not to buy the phone... It's your head and body. No need to talk about the sky falling.
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But again, it's non-ionizing radiation. You would get more of this type of radiation living close to an airport than having the phone in your pocket.
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I think u guys don't know about the exynos versions... All of them have near the limit values..
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I was surprised to see this but to my another surprise huawei is doing so good with huawei mate 20 pro with sar value of head:0.40, body:0.96
Even the p30 pro has head:0.67, body:0.99 which is well below the limit. Samsung is just getting greedy their phones have head sar low but body sar is way too high.
Looking forward to s11, note 10, mate 30 pro
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U act as if u know everything... The radiation levels indicated are not only for head but also body distance from the phone.. So if people play games for hours or put the phone in their pockets for a long time there is bound to be some effect.
Nobody's asking u not to buy the phone... It's your head and body. No need to talk about the sky falling.
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100% agree :good:
Hi guys!! I was thinking about changing my V20 lg ... changing to Xiaomi. Due to budget issues I would like to know which is the best purchase today. In terms of battery, screen, cameras, community.
Edito: I'm not interested in building materials etc, only that the device yields and is customizable. thank you in advance
You in mi8 section ask. You most likely will get people suggest you mi8
It depends on the price
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Hi guys!! I was thinking about changing my V20 lg ... changing to Xiaomi. Due to budget issues I would like to know which is the best purchase today. In terms of battery, screen, cameras, community.
Edito: I'm not interested in building materials etc, only that the device yields and is customizable. thank you in advance
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Other than the price, they have different pros and cons. For example, MI 8 have a slightly better native camera, AMOLED screen that looks awesome (but might live less than an IPS due to oled "burning"), has NFC and dual GPS.
Pocophone have widevine L1 already enabled, that allow you to stream for example Netflix content in FHD (MI 8 may get it in the future but for now only stream in HD), bigger battery on F1, headphone jack, infrared remote control (for TVs, ACs, etc...). Poco F1 also have a better cooling for it's chip, so it will perform better in long game sections. Also worth mentioning, with Pocophone you get a wider community....
If you really aim for that true blacks of AMOLED or need NFC, then MI 8. If not, go for Pocochone F1, it is much cheaper and it is more feature richer in some key areas.
Edit: Screen replacements for Pocophone are much cheaper and Facial Recognition for MI 8 don't work in some regions.
GodMustaine said:
Hi guys!! I was thinking about changing my V20 lg ... changing to Xiaomi. Due to budget issues I would like to know which is the best purchase today. In terms of battery, screen, cameras, community.
Edito: I'm not interested in building materials etc, only that the device yields and is customizable. thank you in advance
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I agree with most everything that @abnogueira mentioned.
Except, that I doubt the Oled will have serious issues. Especially since Dark mode is so prevalent, and with a phone you are not as likely to have static images always on I have have owned several Samsung phones and watches since they came to market and they are still going strong and with zero burn in. I would have expected to see some burn in on my Gear watches but I haven't. Seriously, Amoled is gorgeous and once you have have it, you don't want anything else.
While the Poco is also a very powerful phone, I would be the most concerned about LTE bands. The Poco F1 has very limited range of 4G/4G plus bands you should definitely ensure that it has the bands that you need before even considering it.. Frequency Check is an excellent site for checking the device and its supported bands as required by your carrier.
You can search for your country/carrier and the device that you are considering and it will give you a detailed report
Here is the address: https://www.frequencycheck.com/
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Regarding Worldvine. Currently the Mi8 has L3 Worldvine, The Poco may have L1 but it is my understanding that Poco owners are not yet able to use its benefits of higher resolution due to approval bottlenecks with Netflix.
I own a Le Pro 3 that has had Worldvine L1 support since late 2016 and my Netflix resolution is exactly the same for my Leeco X727 and my Mi8. No I get nothing higher than HD and this is due to Netflix dragging their feet with updating their device approval list : More about the issue and Netflix's limited range of approved devices here: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23939
At the end of the day, Disney will have their own online streaming service starting in November and that will surely get Netflix motivated to action.
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Other than the price, they have different pros and cons. For example, MI 8 have a slightly better native camera, AMOLED screen that looks awesome (but might live less than an IPS due to oled "burning"), has NFC and dual GPS.
Pocophone have widevine L1 already enabled, that allow you to stream for example Netflix content in FHD (MI 8 may get it in the future but for now only stream in HD), bigger battery on F1, headphone jack, infrared remote control (for TVs, ACs, etc...). Poco F1 also have a better cooling for it's chip, so it will perform better in long game sections. Also worth mentioning, with Pocophone you get a wider community....
If you really aim for that true blacks of AMOLED or need NFC, then MI 8. If not, go for Pocochone F1, it is much cheaper and it is more feature richer in some key areas.
Edit: Screen replacements for Pocophone are much cheaper and Facial Recognition for MI 8 don't work in some regions.
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thanks for the review. It's a difficult statement, although I miss the amoled I used to use in Samsung. maybe the F1 I like more his battery
tsongming said:
I agree with most everything that @abnogueira mentioned.
Except, that I doubt the Oled will have serious issues. Especially since Dark mode is so prevalent, and with a phone you are not as likely to have static images always on I have have owned several Samsung phones and watches since they came to market and they are still going strong and with zero burn in. I would have expected to see some burn in on my Gear watches but I haven't. Seriously, Amoled is gorgeous and once you have have it, you don't want anything else.
While the Poco is also a very powerful phone, I would be the most concerned about LTE bands. The Poco F1 has very limited range of 4G/4G plus bands you should definitely ensure that it has the bands that you need before even considering it.. Frequency Check is an excellent site for checking the device and its supported bands as required by your carrier.
You can search for your country/carrier and the device that you are considering and it will give you a detailed report
Here is the address: https://www.frequencycheck.com/
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That's a real problem, because here in Argentina, the F1 would force me to use a lot of the time H + and not 4g ... That's a desperate detail. Thank you very much
Hellboy4 said:
You in mi8 section ask. You most likely will get people suggest you mi8
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Mmmm no ... While mi8 attracts me a lot. I appeal to the sincerity of this forum, section mi8 or F1. Does not matter. Thanks for your attention
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That's a real problem, because here in Argentina, the F1 would force me to use a lot of the time H + and not 4g ... That's a desperate detail. Thank you very much
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No doubt, and just so you know I updated my post on Worldvine, if your weren't aware. L1 is coming to the Mi8 the issue is truly with the streaming services at this point.
Concerning the battery. My battery life is excellent. Although the battery is 3400 mah instead of 4000, the software for the Mi8 is quite different from the OS on the Poco. I have a lot of friends who own Poco's and they have switched to the EU beta Miui rom because its better optimised. My battery life is just as good as it is on my LePro 3 which also has a 4000msh battery. I am currently using the Miui Pro rom and according to GSAM battery manager my SOT 8.5 hours. SOT is great on pretty much all of the Miui based roms.
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No doubt, and just so you know I updated my post on Worldvine, if your weren't aware. L1 is coming to the Mi8 the issue is truly with the streaming services at this point.
Concerning the battery. My battery life is excellent. Although the battery is 3400 mah instead of 4000, the software for the Mi8 is quite different from the OS on the Poco. I have a lot of friends who own Poco's and they have switched to the EU beta Miui rom because its better optimised. My battery life is just as good as it is on my LePro 3 which also has a 4000msh battery. I am currently using the Miui Pro rom and according to GSAM battery manager my SOT 8.5 hours. SOT is great on pretty much all of the Miui based roms.
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I really thank you very much since you are dissipating many doubts about it. Just super thank your help and ... off topic: I'm crazy about mi8 in white
GodMustaine said:
I really thank you very much since you are dissipating many doubts about it. Just super thank your help and ... off topic: I'm crazy about mi8 in white
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I almost bought the white one. But it wasn't available from Amazon when I was ready to purchase. I ended up buying the blue one and I definitely have no regrets with purchasing the Mi8, I truly do love this phone.
BTW, I have purchases 4 different cases, I posted links for my favorite ones. Should you decide to go with the Mi8 you can rest assured that these cases are also great.
360 aluminium case : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G2Z628X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Lightweight case with finger ring that has lasted for months and is still tight : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H7VB7VC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Take Care, Should you get the phone feel free to message me if you have any questions.
Edit : Forgot to mention that we have something else in common. I am also a Metalhead and grew up with Megadeth, Metallica, Iron Maiden etc. Mustaine has been a big influence and one of the reasons why I started playing guitar.
The early reviews seem to be mixed. Has anyone managed to source two together to give a verdict what is the latest and greatest amongst the two in all aspects not just performance.
CPU seems similar, GPU better on the SD. Exynos won't be similar on GPU until it gets AMD GPU next year.
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CPU seems similar, GPU better on the SD. Exynos won't be similar on GPU until it gets AMD GPU next year.
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Once it gets the AMD GPU it will destroy the Snapdragon and possibly finally level up with the Apple. Maybe not CPU wise, but definitely on the GPU front against Apple.
Edit. Wrong thread. Apologies.
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This man is not accurate because the test he ran only on one device by his own and he let another person to perform same test on that person's device then he compared both even though the one with Exynos 2100 was set to QHD and the one with SD888 was set to FHD only!! I mean this could impact the tests negatively!! The test conditions should be exactly the same!!
Listen to this guy, he is from HK and he've got the Snapdragon 888, in this video at 3:38 he mention that he don't understand how the american youtubers claims a 1.5 day battery life while his own experience in much less than that (almost half of that) .. so many youtubers unfortunately lies about the battery life and obviously this fool people who buys that device with Snapdragon 888, many of them put the phone only on Wi-Fi and not on cellular, it's not good and not nice when they claim something which is so badly incorrect. Note that BEN from the video below is using the phone with a SIM card, not with wi-fi only!
Review for SD888
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This man is not accurate because the test he ran only on one device by his own and he let another person to perform same test on that person's device then he compared both even though the one with Exynos 2100 was set to QHD and the one with SD888 was set to FHD only!! I mean this could impact the tests negatively!! The test conditions should be exactly the same!!
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Where is the source for your info?
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Where is the source for your info?
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So in all fairness, I did go back and look at the speed test video he did between the two and noticed a few things
Looks like different people kicking off the tests (based on the table they are on and skin colour).
SD is in aeroplane mode and Exynos is connected to cellular but no wifi/mobile data.
Resolutions are very slightly different, but both look like they are in FHD, but the SD has a slightly lower resolution as the navigation bar is different and makes the screen slightly smaller. QHD makes a minimal difference to battery life unless you're doing something GPU intensive.
In all fairness, I've seen mixed reviews of both chips, but no idea how people are setting up their phones (always do a clean install!!!). Have to wait and see how it performs when the phone arrives.
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So in all fairness, I did go back and look at the speed test video he did between the two and noticed a few things
Looks like different people kicking off the tests (based on the table they are on and skin colour).
SD is in aeroplane mode and Exynos is connected to cellular but no wifi/mobile data.
Resolutions are very slightly different, but both look like they are in FHD, but the SD has a slightly lower resolution as the navigation bar is different and makes the screen slightly smaller. QHD makes a minimal difference to battery life unless you're doing something GPU intensive.
In all fairness, I've seen mixed reviews of both chips, but no idea how people are setting up their phones (always do a clean install!!!). Have to wait and see how it performs when the phone arrives.
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Have you gone for snapdragon or exynos. I am on the fence for buying either and can't decide. Not enough reliable info but if its anything like last year then I would rather import 888 into the UK.
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Have you gone for snapdragon or exynos. I am on the fence for buying either and can't decide. Not enough reliable info but if its anything like last year then I would rather import 888 into the UK.
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I pre-ordered the Exynos, trade in deal for my s10+ was good and I was in the market for some earbuds anyway.
I won't send my current phone in until I'm happy, 28 days should be enough to determine if the Ultra is worth keeping or not. (although won't get much of a chance to test out and about!).
I have considered SDs in the past, just a bit concerned about replacing it via insurance if it gets damaged (have to take it to a Samsung store). Seems like this year the SD isn't worth the hassle unless you constantly play demanding games which I don't. I would wait for the AMD S22, but I'm too impatient/tech whore sooooo couldn't wait.
The problem for me is trying to avoid Chinese phones (for ethical reasons), doesn't leave much choice!
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So in all fairness, I did go back and look at the speed test video he did between the two and noticed a few things
Looks like different people kicking off the tests (based on the table they are on and skin colour).
SD is in aeroplane mode and Exynos is connected to cellular but no wifi/mobile data.
Resolutions are very slightly different, but both look like they are in FHD, but the SD has a slightly lower resolution as the navigation bar is different and makes the screen slightly smaller. QHD makes a minimal difference to battery life unless you're doing something GPU intensive.
In all fairness, I've seen mixed reviews of both chips, but no idea how people are setting up their phones (always do a clean install!!!). Have to wait and see how it performs when the phone arrives.
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Thanks a lot of sparing me time to get the info again, obviously the differences are there and i get so sick of people claiming they are doing something huge while they just needs to get more publicity than giving the pure truth to everyone!!
For my opinion, i will not accept any of the videos to let me purchase or not the S21 Ultra, because they always run the phone in "lab" conditions, not real conditions that could affect the whole experience!
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Have you gone for snapdragon or exynos. I am on the fence for buying either and can't decide. Not enough reliable info but if its anything like last year then I would rather import 888 into the UK.
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I was in the same seat of you, not sure to get the Exynos 2100 in Sweden or i go for SD888 from HK. I have today S20 Ultra Snapdragon model and very happy with its performance & battery life but not the camera with the auto-focus issues and also for the macro pictures. So i was looking at all tests, feedbacks, reviews, i am now more sure that Exynos 2100 is for me this time because of the battery life and also the good performance, i know the GPU is weaker but for my part, battery life is more important, so with SD888 and its bad battery life there is no reason to buy it, i don't play games with my phones so i will be fine with Exynos 2100!
BTW, the Exynos 2100 gives me what i need, from full support for 5G network as my carrier has kicked off here in Sweden unlike the SD888 which lacks the important Band 40 and 42! Also the SD888 lacks the eSIM functionality!
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I was in the same seat of you, not sure to get the Exynos 2100 in Sweden or i go for SD888 from HK. I have today S20 Ultra Snapdragon model and very happy with its performance & battery life but not the camera with the auto-focus issues and also for the macro pictures. So i was looking at all tests, feedbacks, reviews, i am now sure that Exynos 2100 is for me this time because of the battery life and also the good performance, i know the GPU is weaker but for my part battery life is more important, so with SD888 and bad battery time, there is no reason for me to buy it, i don't play games with my phones so i will be fine with Exynos 2100 for now.
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I have been watching Gary's videos as well. Its a close call this time and I don't play games on the phone. Leaning towards exynos due to warranty and not having to import plus buds and tag as freebies etc. Just conscious of what happened last year and the difference was huge. Also samsung is not selling mmwave snapdragon or exynos outside of the US which is mean as mmwave is only a year or two away from landing in Europe. Why not treat all of its customers equally! I think with the recent history snapdragon had a novelty factor to it but others are catching up. Let's hope snapdragon doesn't become intel of mobile world.
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Thanks a lot of sparing me time to get the info again, obviously the differences are there and i get so sick of people claiming they are doing something huge while they just needs to get more publicity than giving the pure truth to everyone!!
For my opinion, i will not accept any of the videos to let me purchase or not the S21 Ultra, because they always run the phone in "lab" conditions, not real conditions that could affect the whole experience!
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Yea it's not exactly like for like but can't imagine it makes loads of difference. I'm also more fussed about battery life, so will test it once I get it and see how it goes, battery life is just so dependent on personal usage, although I will say Phonebuff do a better job of testing, i.e. standby times and such, which gives a better idea of relative performance.
Andrei from Anandtech does really good reviews as well, but so in-depth that they don't usually release in time for pre-order
Invincible29 said:
I have been watching Gary's videos as well. Its a close call this time and I don't play games on the phone. Leaning towards exynos due to warranty and not having to import plus buds and tag as freebies etc. Just conscious of what happened last year and the difference was huge. Also samsung is not selling mmwave snapdragon or exynos outside of the US which is mean as mmwave is only a year or two away from landing in Europe. Why not treat all of its customers equally! I think with the recent history snapdragon had a novelty factor to it but others are catching up. Let's hope snapdragon doesn't become intel of mobile world.
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Yes, for sure you are getting 2 years warranty with Exynos 2100 in UK (i think) because we get that in Sweden too, additionally you are getting the pre booking freebies (Galaxy Buds Pro + Smart Tag), then you don't need to compare Exynos 2100 with the extremely bad Exynos 990 because the CPU is exactly the same as in SD888.
Regarding the MMwave, i don't care about it right now as it is not implemented yet in the networks here in Sweden, but i do have full 5G support for the rest of the bands which give me an advantage when the 4G is fully loaded.
I think Snapdragon will not be the intel of mobile world because Samsung is getting AMD help and involvement in the coming products, this will change the game!
This e sim is really important as you can add profiles without the need for physical sims. I had double checked this with HK version and it does not seem to be on the spec sheet. Yes band 40 will be gold once o2 pull their finger out in the UK for 5g. I think the decision is made for me that its going to be exynos for me plus also get samsung pay to work which is really handy for store cards. I'm using s9+ now and I don't know how uncomfortable the size of s21 ultra will be!
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So in all fairness, I did go back and look at the speed test video he did between the two and noticed a few things
Looks like different people kicking off the tests (based on the table they are on and skin colour).
SD is in aeroplane mode and Exynos is connected to cellular but no wifi/mobile data.
Resolutions are very slightly different, but both look like they are in FHD, but the SD has a slightly lower resolution as the navigation bar is different and makes the screen slightly smaller. QHD makes a minimal difference to battery life unless you're doing something GPU intensive.
In all fairness, I've seen mixed reviews of both chips, but no idea how people are setting up their phones (always do a clean install!!!). Have to wait and see how it performs when the phone arrives.
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What would you consider a clean install? Can you import settings from your samsung profile? I generally don't transfer with the USB, but I download all my apps after the phone is booted up from the original install. Only after the phone boots up and finishes the setup do I get the apps from the play store.
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What would you consider a clean install? Can you import settings from your samsung profile? I generally don't transfer with the USB, but I download all my apps after the phone is booted up from the original install. Only after the phone boots up and finishes the setup do I get the apps from the play store.
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I would start fresh, download apps manually, most have a cloud back up that they use themselves to restore once they are installed. From a settings perspective I'd do that all again fresh and let the system determine sleeping applications etc.
Basically avoid smart switch!
Tbh it's a good sort of audit process to work out which apps you have that you don't even use anymore
I don't think I was prepared for quite how big this phone is dwarfs my s10+ in size and weight