[1day] Thinking about buying Z1... need fast advice! - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I was i 3 shops today and found 1 where Z1 wasn't yellow or anything like that.
Screen was good, white was white, but i'm a bit scared about:
1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj1P0X12r_A
2) http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/11/0...ys-for-xperia-z-series-suggests-leaked-info/W
3) Community support i don't see a lot ROMS for this device, and i'm mostly interested about CM11 4.4.2 / Carbon KK (does it work well?)
Will also check *#*#7378423#*#* and go to Service Info > Configuration > Rooting Status [Bootloader Unlock Allowed]
I was thinking also about Nexus 5, but 32GB isn't available in my country and getting it in almost same price az Z1 isn't really a deal for me.
I like also Z1 overall better than N5 but i can't choose.
Will buy it tomorrow , so please if anybody will tell me about yes/no or any advices ASAP i will be thankful! :highfive:

Well Sony just announce the Z2. If you can wait until Z2 I would go for that. If you can't wait I would go for Z1. In my eyes Z1 is better than Google Nexus 5.

Linux4ever85 said:
Well Sony just announce the Z2. If you can wait until Z2 I would go for that. If you can't wait I would go for Z1. In my eyes Z1 is better than Google Nexus 5.
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Thanks for first comment!
I also like the look of Z1
Z2 doesn't really change that much and this is also about price.
How about:
-Wifi (signal)
-GSM (Calls signal etc)
-Speaker volume?
*earlier issues i mentioned?

EsEnZeT said:
Thanks for first comment!
I also like the look of Z1
Z2 doesn't really change that much and this is also about price.
How about:
-Wifi (signal)
-GSM (Calls signal etc)
-Speaker volume?
*earlier issues i mentioned?
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GSM signal is good. Are you using it on T-Mobile? With custom roms there are problems using it on T-Mobile network. The receiver do get echo effect on custom rom. I do get a problem with one of my bluetooth device which can't seem to auto connect, name of device Flexsmart X3. I don't seem to have any speaker volume problem with mines. Wifi seems to be ok, might want to wait for someone to answer that one since I hardly use Wifi on my device due to having unlimited data plan with T-Mobile. I have to turn on and off tethering a lot before it works. Right now I am using CM11 with the latest nightly build. My device model is C6903.

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Linux4ever85 said:
GSM signal is good. Are you using it on T-Mobile? With custom roms there are problems using it on T-Mobile network. The receiver do get echo effect on custom rom. I do get a problem with one of my bluetooth device which can't seem to auto connect, name of device Flexsmart X3. I don't seem to have any speaker volume problem with mines. Wifi seems to be ok, might want to wait for someone to answer that one since I hardly use Wifi on my device due to having unlimited data plan with T-Mobile. I have to turn on and off tethering a lot before it works. Right now I am using CM11 with the latest nightly build. My device model is C6903.
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Many thanks! I will use it with other operator not T-Mobile
Good to hear about CM11 too!

EsEnZeT said:
Hello,
I was i 3 shops today and found 1 where Z1 wasn't yellow or anything like that.
Screen was good, white was white, but i'm a bit scared about:
1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj1P0X12r_A
2) http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/11/0...ys-for-xperia-z-series-suggests-leaked-info/W
3) Community support i don't see a lot ROMS for this device, and i'm mostly interested about CM11 4.4.2 / Carbon KK (does it work well?)
Will also check *#*#7378423#*#* and go to Service Info > Configuration > Rooting Status [Bootloader Unlock Allowed]
I was thinking also about Nexus 5, but 32GB isn't available in my country and getting it in almost same price az Z1 isn't really a deal for me.
I like also Z1 overall better than N5 but i can't choose.
Will buy it tomorrow , so please if anybody will tell me about yes/no or any advices ASAP i will be thankful! :highfive:
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1. Touchscreen problem has been FIXED on 14.2.A.1.136, for the sake of truth I've test it
2. I've never found cracked display on Z1 yet. So I can't say anything about it. Anyway, the level of your luck is depend on your persuasive level. More persuasive you are, the more chance to get warranty.
3. Sony has been fixed dead camera bug on December 2013. Anyway, dead camera bug is something you get if you unlock your bootloader. With some kind of bug like that, just a little number of developers dare to take the risk. Until the bug has fixed by Sony, all developers now can build custom ROM and kernel without worries. We've developed custom ROM and Kernel actively since December. That means the developing has running for 2 months. That's why we have no many choices YET.

omegahanggara said:
1. Touchscreen problem has been FIXED on 14.2.A.1.136, for the sake of truth I've test it
2. I've never found cracked display on Z1 yet. So I can't say anything about it. Anyway, the level of your luck is depend on your persuasive level. More persuasive you are, the more chance to get warranty.
3. Sony has been fixed dead camera bug on December 2013. Anyway, dead camera bug is something you get if you unlock your bootloader. With some kind of bug like that, just a little number of developers dare to take the risk. Until the bug has fixed by Sony, all developers now can build custom ROM and kernel without worries. We've developed custom ROM and Kernel actively since December. That means the developing has running for 2 months. That's why we have no many choices YET.
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The update 14.2.A.1.136 didn't fix the problem with touchscreen. Just mask it. The problem is still there and it appeard every day in daily use. It is a hardware issue, not software.

Don't have the touchscreen issue myself (in diagnostics screen test it works fine at least 3 or 4 times in a row... can't be bothered to try more ).
But if you can access the service menu, can't you access the screen test as well? So you can check if there are any obvious flaws.
About custom roms, check the relevant threads to see if the things you want are available and if they work (something personal anyway, issues one person can't be bothered about can be major for another). My main issue is that the Z1 camera app from sony only works on the stock roms, that's my reason for staying with a stock based rom (Monxdified atm, working just fine).

EsEnZeT said:
Thanks for first comment!
I also like the look of Z1
Z2 doesn't really change that much and this is also about price.
How about:
-Wifi (signal)
-GSM (Calls signal etc)
-Speaker volume?
*earlier issues i mentioned?
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The speaker isn't as loud as I would like it to be. Vibration is also weak (loud but weak). Those and the screen are my top three complaints about the phone. I get better Wi-Fi and GSM/HSPA with the Z1 than I did with my older Galaxy S2 and S3, and better than my wife's iPhone 5S. Battery life is impressive coming from the Galaxies. And I really don't see the need to go from Sony's ROM to an AOSP one: the ROM is very light and functional, Xposed alone is enough to make it as flexible as CM/Omni.
Touchscreen issues still happen on .136, but only when I specifically test for them (run a drawing app, lay down the phone, turn off the screen, hold your finger on the screen, turn the screen back on and draw without removing your finger: you'll see a dotted line instead of a continuous one). I didn't have the colour balance issues, but that is fixed with the balance settings.

Thanks for answers i will buy nexus5..
The phones in shop with good screen had botloader locked NO = can't unlock lol) and the unlockable 2 of them had yellowish screen...
Thanks anyways again guys!

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[Q] Buy Xperia Z or not?

Hey folks,
I'm currently using the HTC One S which is the worst and buggiest of a so called "smart"phone I've ever used. It often crashes, if the camera works is a gamble and the strange home button bug, which constantly presses the home button by itself, annoyingly interrupts everything.
It seems to be the time to get a new phone. This time I want to be sure to really get a smartphone which is not only smart but does not have that much bugs, too. To put it short I'd like to have a phone I can trust. I think the Xperia Z might be the phone of choice, but I also read many reports and threads talking about bugs like "sudden death" or problems with wifi when bluetooth is enabled.
With this post I ask you, as Xperia Z users, to tell me your honest opinion about it. Are you satisfied with it? Would you buy it again? Would you recommend it? Is it relaiable? Are there any bugs constantly interrupting you?
Another candidate for me might be the Galaxy S4 but since I do not really like Samsung and hate the phone's outer appearance I'd better like the Xperia. Do you agree?
I'd be very grateful if you reply to give me another point of view on this awesome (?) phone.
Greetings Max
P.S. I'm from german and I mostly read or hear english texts, but do not write them on my own so please forgive me any error I did. I hope you can understand me.
Wait for the Honami before making your decision. Some say that the Honami will come out in some parts of Asia at the end of this month.
Dsteppa said:
Wait for the Honami before making your decision. Some say that the Honami will come out in some parts of Asia at the end of this month.
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Thanks for the hint but I think I won't be able to get the phone in Germany when it is published in Asia or am I wrong? Another doubt I have about this phone is that it and its bugs would be unknown when published. I bought my current One S on the first day it was available since everyone was sure it'll be a great phone. Nobody new about the s*** HTC did to it. Learning from that I'd rather take a phone which has been out for a while, like the Xperia Z.
Besides all this I'll keep the Honami in mind so thanks again for the information.
Max
Well if s4 is an option then why Vue consider ONE, i know your experiences with HTC might have made up your mind not to go with another HTC device anytime soon btw do check our reviews and forums of one its loads better than one and looks like HTC has learnt and rectified a few of their mistakes. Now coming to Z - i wouldn't really recommend going for Z at this point of time not that Z is bad or has any deal breaking bugs but still its outdated compared to today's flagships devices and hence one needs to be skeptical about how future proof it is. Having said all this my advice would be to wait a bit longer because there are rumours afloat of even a refreshed Z with more recent SOC
MrDuvet said:
Thanks for the hint but I think I won't be able to get the phone in Germany when it is published in Asia or am I wrong? Another doubt I have about this phone is that it and its bugs would be unknown when published. I bought my current One S on the first day it was available since everyone was sure it'll be a great phone. Nobody new about the s*** HTC did to it. Learning from that I'd rather take a phone which has been out for a while, like the Xperia Z.
Besides all this I'll keep the Honami in mind so thanks again for the information.
Max
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Nein! The phone will be released in Asia first and then the rest of the world will follow. So it would just be a matter of waiting.
If you still want to go for the XZ then I'd still suggest to wait till the Honami comes out, that might make the XZ cheaper
nikufellow said:
Well if s4 is an option then why Vue consider ONE, i know your experiences with HTC might have made up your mind not to go with another HTC device anytime soon btw do check our reviews and forums of one its loads better than one and looks like HTC has learnt and rectified a few of their mistakes. Now coming to Z - i wouldn't really recommend going for Z at this point of time not that Z is bad or has any deal breaking bugs but still its outdated compared to today's flagships devices and hence one needs to be skeptical about how future proof it is. Having said all this my advice would be to wait a bit longer because there are rumours afloat of even a refreshed Z with more recent SOC
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Yeah that's true.
I'd also choose between the S4 and the XZ
S4: Lots of custom roms, lots of updates to come because of the Google edition.
XZ: Looks way better then the S4 in my opinion, but also a bit more fragile?
Lots more updates to come because of the Honami ports, Google Edition.
Have a more unique phone compared to most people that have either an iPhone or a Samsung.
Thanks for your detailed replies!
@nikufellow: You are right. I don't trust HTC anymore and although I like the design of the One the missing sd card slot bothers me. The One S teached me how annoying it is to always watch the space. E.g at the moment I have to move some music to my notebook in order to be able to do a nandroid backup. That sucks. So thanks for your advice but I'd rather stay with a device providing the ability to extend storage.
Anyway a Xz with updated SOC or Honami would be really great but I think I can't wait much longer. Firstly I'd like to sell my One S on ebay as long as it brings in some money and secondly I get freaking crazy with this bug...
I guess an updated Xz won't be able to run the currently available ROMs but I love CM and would like to run it on Xz, too. Do you think that devs will make the work to port the current Xz's CM to the updated one? There are also two types of One S with different SOCs and the S3-One S is mostly put in second place meaning less ROMS and Kernels. I'd like to avoid this with Xz...
Max
Get the HTC One, and I say this as a guy who for the last month was considering getting the Z, but today I had them both in my hands, and it is obvious(atleast to me) the One is superior, not just specswise. Sure I'll miss the water proof/dust proof features of the Z, but the One is awesome.
It's my plan to visit a store an watch them all in reallife and include this experiences into my decision. But currently that's not quite possible since I'm stuck on an island for holyday Relay nice but no tech stores
Thanks anyway for the advice. I'll pay attention to the One.
After reading and watching dozens of reviews on the HTC One it really seems to be a pretty and fast device. I'll have to see it in real life to decide if it's worth it to give HTC a second chance. But there is still one thing that really bugs me. Why the hell did they just put two buttons on the damn phone?! It was a desaster on the One S to always have the three-dot-menu-button-bar at the bottom of every unsupported app and even though HTC fixed that in 4.2.2. it's still not acceptable to have two buttons instead of three -.-

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MuF123 said:
Hello,
I am happy user of SGS2 and I now I'm deciding between S4 and Z1. I know that Galaxy family has tons of ROMs updated regulary and how rooting/flashing works and I am kinda afraid to leave that nice ecosystem and so I have few questions.
1.: Does xperia family share developers? E.g. one ROM gets compiled to few devices by same cook? Are there plenty of neat roms to choose?
2.: Is it possible to hardbrick xperia device (by flashing wrong boot)?
3.: Are there any recurring problems with xperia family that only long time user knows?
4.: Is there someone else who switched from Galaxy S2/3/4 to Z1 - if so, why?
5.: By any chance - does Z1 support headphone remote control for iphones?
Thanks!
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First of all, welcome to the xperia family.
1. For now, there's not much in the development. Because the Z1 its just been released this september. We still need time, let the developers do their magic. Its just about time. If u want to see for example, go to xperia arc development. You will see many ROMs available.
2. Yup. Its possible. Every device has the possibility to be hardbricked. But dont worry, as long as u follow the instruction, u wont encounter any hard brick. Ive used xperia arc, xperia s, and xperia z1, and never encounter hardbrick.
3. The only problem that i know from the xperia family is that we are late on android updates.
4. I dont know
5. I think its gonna work, never tried it tho ..
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MuF123 said:
Hello,
I am happy user of SGS2 and I now I'm deciding between S4 and Z1. I know that Galaxy family has tons of ROMs updated regulary and how rooting/flashing works and I am kinda afraid to leave that nice ecosystem and so I have few questions.
1.: Does xperia family share developers? E.g. one ROM gets compiled to few devices by same cook? Are there plenty of neat roms to choose?
2.: Is it possible to hardbrick xperia device (by flashing wrong boot)?
3.: Are there any recurring problems with xperia family that only long time user knows?
4.: Is there someone else who switched from Galaxy S2/3/4 to Z1 - if so, why?
5.: By any chance - does Z1 support headphone remote control for iphones?
Thanks!
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I can answer your question about coming from an S3 to the Z1! I've found the Z1 much much better than the S3! No Touchwiz lag and bloat! Sure I miss some of the gesture stuff but I'll trade the lag free and minimalist changes to the android interface by Sony anytime. Also my battery lasts much longer than it ever did with the S3 and overall I'm quite happy! You might however find the display pannel to be inferior to Samsung's AMOLED screens. To be honest, viewing angles are not as good but still ok IMO... There are people complaining about yellow tint issue with Z1 and I became obssessed with that however after a few days of use, your eyes do get used to it and even in the tests, the whites look white... its a display calibration issue which Sony can easily fix in a firmware update..Also the Xperia Z had a tool to adjust white balance which is missing from the Z1 and should be brought in or will be ported.. Overall, I'll give a 8/10.. There are a few bugs but with the last update, quite a few were fixed.. Sony will keep this up so I expect it to be perfect in 1-3 months!
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MuF123 said:
I had totally lite rom in my S2 since day 1 so I don't mind touchwiz, you can get rid of it pretty easily...
I still struggle with the idea of:
-having larger phone than S4, and yet
-having smaller screen than S4 (because of those stupid software buttons)
Also I'm kinda afraid of the glass... I've had some rough landings with my S2 - 1.5m landing on display on pavement, then scratching another meter on it and - one minor dent on the plastic bezel. No cracked front glass, no cracked back glass (plastic cover sometimes wins )
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If you are struggling with these issues, I think Z1 is not a good option for you... I suggest you try the LG G2... bigger screen (5.2") than S4 with roughly the same size, not glass (also plastic as S4). UI is very close to S4... G2 has software buttons but that's because the bezels are so small, it can not fit a physical button... it has the same chip (S800) as Z1 and note 3... and is 100 dollars cheaper...

[Q] ROM Development?

Love my Z1 so far but..
Wondering about 3 things at the moment,
1. Will Sony ever fix the camera issue for the bootloader?
2. If so, Will there be a great amount of ROM development like for example the Galaxy series.
3. Are we gonna see some nice updates from Sony in the near future? ( Camera fix, 4.3/4.4?)
zippy1990 said:
Love my Z1 so far but..
Wondering about 3 things at the moment,
1. Will Sony ever fix the camera issue for the bootloader?
2. If so, Will there be a great amount of ROM development like for example the Galaxy series.
3. Are we gonna see some nice updates from Sony in the near future? ( Camera fix, 4.3/4.4?)
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Sony will definitely sort the camera issue out with regards to the bootloader.
We have two fantastic devs already, krabappel2548 & DooMLoRD, more will come if they think the Z1 is worth developing for.
Updates will come when and where Sony sees fit to release them but we all hope for 4.4
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I only miss lack of working recovery for 534!
I have unlocked bootloader of my old Z and after some time it brick's (nothing to do with unlocking) fortunately they exchanged it under warranty, but now i prefer not to unlock bootloader and only root (which is must!). Original ROM is very good
I'm really not missing having custom rom's because after rooting I'm using Xposed - have about 25 modules installed and my phone may as well have a custom rom on it because all the features I usually look for are there! With "Auto Hide Soft Keys" installed I've got the full screen size back and I'm really very very happy overall.
Normally I'd have installed a 'slim' or 'AOSP' type rom just for speed reasons, but the damn Snapdragon 800 is so fast it really doesn't matter that Sony preloaded a little bit of bloatware - and its not as pervasive & space consuming as Samsungs bloat.
The only features I'm missing are the kernel level features (Touch-to-wake please DooMLoRD!), but there's only one custom kernel for now and it requires a UB, so I'm waiting on that till they fix the TA partition stuff (though I know you can just restore the TA partition to fix the camera I don't feel the need to yet).
And to answer the questions:
1) Yes
2) Wait and see
3) Yes or they'll be abandoning their flagship phone to word of mouth and stale OS - not going to happen.
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3) Yes or they'll be abandoning their flagship phone to word of mouth and stale OS - not going to happen.
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Sony and S/E HAVE done this before, look at the history...
Here is my answers to the 3 questions:
1. Proberbly not, it is a way to keep people from custom roms.
This way Sony can still claim "open bootloader" and "dev friendly", but Sony have done it this way for a reason...
2. Wait and see...
Without sources, the camera will proberbly not ever work on custom roms...
The way this phone is made, sony can in fact release sources as they have to, and leave out the sources for the camera...
3. Look at the Sony and S/E history... Android v4.3 is most certainly all you can expect, as they have to release 4.3 to meet Googles demands...
You will get bugfixes thoug...
I would have written "Sony is NOT stupid!" in the end of all 3 answers, but that looked a little angry...
- the fact is that Sony have NEVER done anything by mistake...!

Help before buying

Hi,
I've been wanting to buy the Xperia Z1 for awhile now but the thing that's holding me back is whether the "self-cracking" screen issue is common or not. I've seen posts of people complaining about this issue on a few sites. I'm afraid that if I do buy the phone, I'll be one of those unlucky people (all of my past phones except for my Nexus 4 have had hardware related problems) and because Sony apparently refuses to acknowledge this issue, I'd have to put out more money to repair the phone and I don't want that.
I've also seen the other common issues (yellow hue, touch problems, wifi issues, etc.) but they seemed to have fixes so I'm okay about that. It's just this screen issue so I'm asking for your help.
Thanks!
Self cracking??? What does it mean???
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Self cracking??? What does it mean???
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http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z1/Z1-likely-has-a-self-cracking-screen-like-the-Z/td-p/401577
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/11/0...ays-for-xperia-z-series-suggests-leaked-info/
Well,I have z1 and I strongly recommend you to buy Note 3
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Well,I have z1 and I strongly recommend you to buy Note 3
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Why is that? I had the original Note and I would have gone for the Note 3 but I want to try out a Sony phone.
Also, upon further research, it seems that this cracking screen issue isn't just exclusive to Sony. Other OEMs such as Samsung are apparently having this issue too.
MeshMage said:
Why is that? I had the original Note and I would have gone for the Note 3 but I want to try out a Sony phone.
Also, upon further research, it seems that this cracking screen issue isn't just exclusive to Sony. Other OEMs such as Samsung are apparently having this issue too.
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If you live in London I will change my z1 with note 3 and I pay the difference + extra XD...
Let me explain :
1.the screen quality is good but angel view??? Really really bad.belive me.in daily usage it will kill you
2.few roms and some people loose their phone in flashing new rom.you can see many of them in the froum
Also loosing X-reality after BL unlocking
3.battery life is less than Samsung note 3
4.Note 3 : 5.8" while Z1 is 5inch smartphone (actually 4.5 inch because of virtual soft keys?)
5.Samsung says android 5 will come out for note but sony didn't says that and I don't think that Sony will give android 5 for z1
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ArashMiniStar said:
If you live in London I will change my z1 with note 3 and I pay the difference + extra XD...
Let me explain :
1.the screen quality is good but angel view??? Really really bad.belive me.in daily usage it will kill you
2.few roms and some people loose their phone in flashing new rom.you can see many of them in the froum
Also loosing X-reality after BL unlocking
3.battery life is less than Samsung note 3
4.Note 3 : 5.8" while Z1 is 5inch smartphone (actually 4.5 inch because of virtual soft keys?)
5.Samsung says android 5 will come out for note but sony didn't says that and I don't think that Sony will give android 5 for z1
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1. Depends on whether or not one really cares about the angle. In daily usage, you will most likely have the phone in front of your face, I doubt it'd kill you.
2. People who do not follow the directions properly and do not back up their TA lose their phone and their DRM features.
3. Battery life is just fine on the Z1, most people will have a cable with them at least of the need to charge.
4. The soft key size can be adjusted with a custom ROM or through Xposed.
5. Although Sony hasn't stated anything on 5.0 yet, looking at all of the various Xperia devices that are getting 4.4, I am not too worried about this, and if you are a ROM flasher, this is not an issue.
Or you can see other topic about the people that loose their phone by flashing android 4.3 (((
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ArashMiniStar said:
If you live in London I will change my z1 with note 3 and I pay the difference + extra XD...
Let me explain :
1.the screen quality is good but angel view??? Really really bad.belive me.in daily usage it will kill you
2.few roms and some people loose their phone in flashing new rom.you can see many of them in the froum
Also loosing X-reality after BL unlocking
3.battery life is less than Samsung note 3
4.Note 3 : 5.8" while Z1 is 5inch smartphone (actually 4.5 inch because of virtual soft keys?)
5.Samsung says android 5 will come out for note but sony didn't says that and I don't think that Sony will give android 5 for z1
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Enjoy!
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1. Yeah, I've heard that the viewing angles aren't great at all but I guess it can help stop people from looking at my screen on the train (I hate that).
2. I like to keep my phone the way it is. Not really into flashing Roms and rooting.
3. I guess that's true but I'm not a HEAVY user so it shouldn't matter to me too much.
4. I prefer the on-screen buttons so I'm fine with that.
5. As long as Sony's UI is less heavy and not as intrusive as Touchwiz, I'm happy.
But thanks for the reply! I was considering the Note 3 but I think I'd rather try the Z1.
MeshMage said:
1. Yeah, I've heard that the viewing angles aren't great at all but I guess it can help stop people from looking at my screen on the train (I hate that).
2. I like to keep my phone the way it is. Not really into flashing Roms and rooting.
3. I guess that's true but I'm not a HEAVY user so it shouldn't matter to me too much.
4. I prefer the on-screen buttons so I'm fine with that.
5. As long as Sony's UI is less heavy and not as intrusive as Touchwiz, I'm happy.
But thanks for the reply! I was considering the Note 3 but I think I'd rather try the Z1.
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Sony's UI is very simple and that makes the Z1 a lag free device.
I love mine and love minimalistic android. I can't stand HTC Sense, touchwiz and all that crap. The Z1 is a very impressive device the only thing I don't like are the flaps and how long it takes Sony to roll out updates for unbranded UK phones.
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nobby00900 said:
I love mine and love minimalistic android. I can't stand HTC Sense, touchwiz and all that crap. The Z1 is a very impressive device the only thing I don't like are the flaps and how long it takes Sony to roll out updates for unbranded UK phones.
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Personally, I thought Sense 5 was a delightful experience. My first impressions of it weren't great but the more I used it, the more I liked it. With Touchwiz, it was the complete opposite. I was excited to see so many features but over time, everything just felt so heavy on my Note. But nothing could beat the smoothness of Stock Android and I'm excited to see Sony preferring the Stock feel rather than something like Touchwiz.

Xperia T KitKat: it will come?

Hey guys, I dis a little research in the web but found nothing concrete about the KitKat update for the Xperia T. I would like to know what has been decided for this good device.
No news yet...
...and official firmware support has ended on April (18 months from the release of the device).
From my point of view, we can only hope in a last version for JB 4.3
istux said:
No news yet...
...and official firmware support has ended on April (18 months from the release of the device).
From my point of view, we can only hope in a last version for JB 4.3
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Yap, that's what read, final jb 4.3 bug fix
have to settle for 4.3, sony puts kitkat under investigation, but I do not give us that update, no longer interested in us...
tozex said:
have to settle for 4.3, sony puts kitkat under investigation, but I do not give us that update, no longer interested in us...
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.... and we are no longer interested in Sony
Seriously with that cycle, release with old version then delay, then finally a release ... a buggy release... Thanks
I don't know why you talk like that to Sony, the Xperia T has the same updates the Galaxy Nexus,that it's the market not only Sony.
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moliverac8 said:
I don't know why you talk like that to Sony, the Xperia T has the same updates the Galaxy Nexus,that it's the market not only Sony.
Enviado desde mi Xperia T mediante Tapatalk
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Becuase I am a little frustrated. Maybe its because I expected more and you are correct I was a bit sarcastic for which I apologize.
Still I have Sony camera and I appreciate all they do and its good that they are strong now, they diversify the market.
Lets hope that they will keep with our highest expectations and provide at least one more build - stable 4.3 or 4.4.
I'd be surprised if there are any further updates to 4.3. I doubt 4.4 will make it to the T in official form.
As for buggy? I haven't had a single problem with mine since upgrading to 4.3
All this bull**** about I want 4.4 NOW nad Sony suck because they're not supporting the phone for ever, just shows some people to be acting like spoilt children.
bigyinn said:
I'd be surprised if there are any further updates to 4.3. I doubt 4.4 will make it to the T in official form.
As for buggy? I haven't had a single problem with mine since upgrading to 4.3
All this bull**** about I want 4.4 NOW nad Sony suck because they're not supporting the phone for ever, just shows some people to be acting like spoilt children.
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Bugs? I tell you one: I can't use my Bluetooth and Wifi at the same moment, I have to switch between, that is very inconvenient... Childish? I need my phone for everyday life
Skyguar said:
Bugs? I tell you one: I can't use my Bluetooth and Wifi at the same moment, I have to switch between, that is very inconvenient...
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What I think he meant is that it's not a bug if it only happens to you. That fact that your phone isn't working for you isn't necessarily the case for everyone. The only problem I've had with my phone is all the bloatware it comes with, and the white settings; both of which can be fixed easily.
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What I think he meant is that it's not a bug if it only happens to you. That fact that your phone isn't working for you isn't necessarily the case for everyone.
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According to your logic and, for example, if you just using the phone for calling and messaging, the firmware for you is good . But I believe the phone should be fully functioning because everybody has different needs
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According to your logic and, for example, if you just using the phone for calling and messaging, the firmware for you is good . But I believe the phone should be fully functioning because everybody has different needs
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And that was exactly my point. If the phone is fully functional for others and not for you, doesn't make it a bug, it just means that whatever you are using under your specific circumstances is not working for you. It's not about people's needs, it's about the phone working as the developers expected it to.
For instance, I've heard people complain about the microphone picking up the sound of the camera focusing while recording. If that is how the developers intended it to work, then it's not a bug, regardless of whether it interferes with the black and white silent movies they are trying to produce.
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And that was exactly my point. If the phone is fully functional for others and not for you, doesn't make it a bug, it just means that whatever you are using under your specific circumstances is not working for you. It's not about people's needs, it's about the phone working as the developers expected it to.
For instance, I've heard people complain about the microphone picking up the sound of the camera focusing while recording. If that is how the developers intended it to work, then it's not a bug, regardless of whether it interferes with the black and white silent movies they are trying to produce.
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With that logic we can come to the conclusion if something is not working, it is just "specific circumstances" .Bytheway, this bug somewhere I read was fixed for other phones . And also I am not alone complaining about the bugs, ok, according to you "specific circumstances". But I will not get into the further discussions
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With that logic we can come to the conclusion if something is not working, it is just "specific circumstances"
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No, because if nobody can make a phone call, then it's not "specific circumstances"; if you're the only one that can't make a call, there must be some circumstance preventing you from doing so. You really don't know much about logic.
I don't think it comes for xperia t any other series which came with xperia t.
I recently stumbled upon this news
http://motoringcrunch.com/news/sony-xperia-getting-exclusive-kitkat-4-4-3-features/10018672/
Sony website still says 'under investigation' but there still might be hope for us T, TX and V users yet.
I doubt that they are actually still investigating if our devices are compatible with KitKat. More likely, they are already working on the new firmware and dont want anyone to know because then they would get thousands of messages about ETA and that stuff.
Sony cant just leave us alone with a more or less working 4.3 as the last update.
In Japan they have this law that they can only keep a appliance, gadgets or cars for a certain period of time and if they want it to keep it for a longer time they have to pay a higher tax. Maybe Sony apply that principle of this law to our devices
"gadgets need love too"
I really don't care anymore. In a few months it's time for a new phone. LG G3 here i come
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r-l said:
I really don't care anymore. In a few months it's time for a new phone. LG G3 here i come
Sent from my Xperia T using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Just curious.. Why not OnePlus One?

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