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"Awesome" news - Jelly Bean for T, TX and V between February and March.

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2012/12...id-4-1-for-2012-xperia-smartphones/#more-7041
O rly? Other manufacturers already updated their newest devices... It seems that Sony keeps their level. Late upgrades, welcome again!

Great news, but dont forget that if you have a branded phone it be more like april or may than february or march.
But as soon as those first generic updates hit the servers I am sure we will be uploading them here for everyone to enjoy!
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Q1 2013 for JB was the earliest date always for xperia T, so its not really late..very nearly early actually

Couldn't a branded phone just flash a JB. ftf on release?

By that time
By that time I wouldn't be surprised if Google is announcing key lime pie or a newer iteration of jb

jewkhok said:
By that time I wouldn't be surprised if Google is announcing key lime pie or a newer iteration of jb
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Thats why you all should help the aosp teams as much as possible so you dont have to wait for a company to roll out updates when they feel like it.. ie a year late.

4.2 is nothing, seriously.
4.1 is a huge thing. As long Sony gets us to 4.1 im happy. Other than 5.0 i dont know. Cause 4.2 doesnt offer much features when companies like samsung, sony, etc.. applies their own skin/features on top of it, it pretty much does the same thing as 4.2. except for lockscreen, updates for google now.
to me, it just seems lile Google is running out of ideas.

To me it seems that Sony releases way too many models.
I would love if they could cut down on the hysterical mass of releases and focus on a fewer amount of models, but I guess thats just a wish. After all, they won't make any money from releasing the latest android update to all their older phones, but by selling new ones.
It's a bit wierd that they couldn't release the Xperia T/TX/V with 4.1 to begin with. 4.1 isn't that new any longer.
My old Xperia Arc was absolutely awesome with CM10, like a new phone. I could just imagine how great my Xperia V would run with 4.1/4.2!

I agree
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Thats why you all should help the aosp teams as much as possible so you dont have to wait for a company to roll out updates when they feel like it.. ie a year late.
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I've asked, given ideas, and shared my thoughts but it seems a lot of people here think the bootloader is almost impossible to unlock that we've settled for suped up stock roms. (I'm a TL user)

Even Sony is known for slow OS updates, I still prefer their very nice-looking phone over a higher-spec ugly phone LOL(looking at you Samsung). And on-screen buttons FTW.
But of course, all boils down to personal preference.
And btw, my TX screen display is gorgeous especially when compared side by side to my Nexus 4, when looking at the same image files I put on both. Only positive to N4 is fast update(therefore more fancy goodies), other than that, TX beats it.
Tapatalked from my TX

olipheus said:
It's a bit wierd that they couldn't release the Xperia T/TX/V with 4.1 to begin with. 4.1 isn't that new any longer.
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The development life cycle for something as complicated as our phone is quite long. Generally the hardware gets a first run design and then the firmware guys get going on the initial prototypes. They'll use the latest base-OS version they can (normally) but don't underestimate the amount of work it is to move from one Android version to another. They won't have infinite resources!

Agree, of course. Yet I feel compelled to mention, that the korean gigant has 4.1 out since a while for devices released not that long before ours. Well, the T at least.
So while your statement still applies, relatively, Sony is describeable as slow.

Isn't the Xperia V supposed to be launched in the US with jelly bean in January?
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Wouldn't it be nice if Sony actually announced a date of release instead of this vague "quarter" garbage. Every other industry has deadlines. Set it, meet it and customers would rejoice.
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augie7107 said:
Wouldn't it be nice if Sony actually announced a date of release instead of this vague "quarter" garbage. Every other industry has deadlines. Set it, meet it and customers would rejoice.
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They can't because of the regions. They could do that for the US, for example, but aside that Sony has got a LOT of different customizations to prepare, and it's completely impossible to do all of them at the same time.

augie7107 said:
Wouldn't it be nice if Sony actually announced a date of release instead of this vague "quarter" garbage. Every other industry has deadlines. Set it, meet it and customers would rejoice.
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A lot of mobile companies use generic deadlines for the same type of upgrades... It's very, very common.

papped said:
A lot of mobile companies use generic deadlines for the same type of upgrades... It's very, very common.
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I understand the facts posted here and by the above post but I have been using Sony (Ericsson) devices for ten years and their rollout of an upgrade is always late and drama filled. Poor communication, staggered releases and no change logs just complicate the process and alienate customers.

augie7107 said:
I understand the facts posted here and by the above post but I have been using Sony (Ericsson) devices for ten years and their rollout of an upgrade is always late and drama filled. Poor communication, staggered releases and no change logs just complicate the process and alienate customers.
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Which SE no longer applies....
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Which SE no longer applies....
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So your assumption is that Sony's takeover will eradicate the existing update rollout issues? I'm afraid that is quite naive. I owned the Xperia S prior to this device, which was a "Sony" device, and watched the upgrade take six months to complete and some regions still don't have 4.0.4.
In any event, best wishes for a happy holiday season to all.

Xperia j also upgradable to 4 .1
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Xperia TL 4.1.2, when?

Am in India and getting an AT&T Xperia TL,
I heard the T has officially received 4.1.2 update, what about TL?
Also can I update mine as am in India and not on AT&T?
Phone is unlocked.

None of the 2012 Xperia devices received 4.1.x yet.

Once its officially released, then someone will create an FTF file and post it on this forum. Then you will be able to flash it using flashtool even if you are not rooted and have a locked bootloader.
PS.
Rule number 1, never ask for an ETA, esacially from a phone company, even if they give you one they normally are late anyway.

Gasai Yuno said:
None of the 2012 Xperia devices received 4.1.x yet.
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I hope you don't live under the rocks or in an isolated island :laugh:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/12/sony-xperia-t-receives-android-4-1-2-jelly-bean-update/

montsa007 said:
I hope you don't live under the rocks or in an isolated island :laugh:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/12/sony-xperia-t-receives-android-4-1-2-jelly-bean-update/
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That website is wrong. They fell for the same story that other websites fell for and posted that before they did any due dilligence checks to see if it was true.
There is NO official update for the xperia T, yet, But it is close. Its due Q1 2013 so is imminent.
The closest we have is the leaked ROM that DooMLoRD is working on, but that is for brown devces and wont work on our production models. That ROM is the one that was released on a Vietnam forum that all these other websites have fallen for.

^
Real thread title pal, its TL and not T that am asking of.
Thanks anyways.

montsa007 said:
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Real thread title pal, its TL and not T that am asking of.
Thanks anyways.
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yes, the info i gave you is correct, withthe implication that the TL will roll out at the same time (Or not long after) the T.

montsa007 said:
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Real thread title pal, its TL and not T that am asking of.
Thanks anyways.
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No Sony device from the 2012 line up has received an update from Sony as of yet. They are working on it but nothing has been released.
Sent from mALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!

egzthunder1 said:
No Sony device from the 2012 line up has received an update from Sony as of yet. They are working on it but nothing has been released.
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What's with Sony then?
Sunlight bothering them
Xda ftw.

montsa007 said:
What's with Sony then?
Sunlight bothering them
Xda ftw.
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No, They have not missed there own deadline yet.
They said it would be release Q1 2013
thats sometime between Jan and the END OF MARCH 2013....so keep waiting...like the rest of us. Once the END OF MARCH has come and gone, then you can complain, but manufacturers are reknonwed for missing their deadlines, so dont hold your breath

gregbradley said:
No, They have not missed there own deadline yet.
They said it would be release Q1 2013
thats sometime between Jan and the END OF MARCH 2013....so keep waiting...like the rest of us. Once the END OF MARCH has come and gone, then you can complain, but manufacturers are reknonwed for missing their deadlines, so dont hold your breath
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^^^^ this
If you ever want to complain about a carrier not releasing updates in a timely manner, switch over to sprint
As for mfg missing their dates, Asus has been the worse IMHO. I still remember how far back they ended up pushing the ICS update for the tf101...
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egzthunder1 said:
^^^^ this
If you ever want to complain about a carrier not releasing updates in a timely manner, switch over to sprint
As for mfg missing their dates, Asus has been the worse IMHO. I still remember how far back they ended up pushing the ICS update for the tf101...
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In all fairness, I think Sony have been quite good to the Dev community, Their updates for the X10 sometimes were late, but not much. All in all I am happy with them and since we are at the end of Jan now its only about 70 days to wait....I would think they will be on time for this deadline.

gregbradley, well my experience shows the opposite, my Sony Z5 never even got Froyo ;_;
j/k
And if you want some really slow updates you should really go for Motorola.

Gasai Yuno said:
gregbradley, well my experience shows the opposite, my Sony Z5 never even got Froyo ;_;
j/k
And if you want some really slow updates you should really go for Motorola.
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Z5, well that goes back a bit. Since then they improved.
the X10 was (eventually) upgraded to 2.3 even though they initially said that the 2.1 update was the final one.
Sony have been good to the devs in recent times. Allowing bootloader to be unlocked and even donating devices to devs and working alongside them to make the Sony experience even better.... which other manufacturer is so dev friendly

Yes, “a bit” is an understatement though, Z5 was released in 2000.
As for development, even with a locked bootloader you don't need to jump through even half as many hoops as it is needed on a Motorola device. There's Flashtool, too.
Though this is pretty off-topic, I guess.

Sony (well, the Ericsson crew rather) is of a different mind set altogether. They have been closely working with us to try and get things working. It is a mutually beneficial symbiosis and they understand that. Most other manufacturers are on the other side of the spectrum. However, the main issue is the fact that carriers have many of them on a stranglehold with contractual obligations.
We will see an update. The leak is living proof of this, and keep in mind... the fact that this is for brown devices means that this is likely quite old, which in turn, it means that there may be something far more "ready" for prime time . Also, remember that (from what Entropy and others have said already), the things broken in this leak are broken because the signatures for the drivers are meant to match a brown device. Meaning, if you had a brown device in your possession, most things would likely work well (including Wifi, which seems to be the only major broken thing left).
Just have a little patience

Sony is a bit of perfectionist that's why it's so late. I prefer this rather than s3's poor implementation of vsync or whatever they call it on jelly bean. Funny thing is, ics is faster than Samsung's touchwiz
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wednesday13 said:
Sony is a bit of perfectionist that's why it's so late. I prefer this rather than s3's poor implementation of vsync or whatever they call it on jelly bean. Funny thing is, icsFroyo is faster than Samsung's touchwiz
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FTFY
Well, they are not late. They did say they would release it Q1, so they are well within their "promised" delivery window. Also, how many other manufacturers have pushed JB updates to their 2012 line up? Sammy is just pushing out JB for the SGS3, and lets not even bring HTC, Moto, Asus, LG, et al into the mix... They are still doing better than most imho.

I know this isn't of relevance to this device, but the Xperia Tablet S has been confirmed to receive JellyBean second week of February. Sony were good with keeping on time with their ICS update for the old tablet, so here's hoping its the same here.

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I know this isn't of relevance to this device, but the Xperia Tablet S has been confirmed to receive JellyBean second week of February. Sony were good with keeping on time with their ICS update for the old tablet, so here's hoping its the same here.
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Which country and which carrier confirmed that? When an update is released it is over about a week to a fortnight for generic devices depending on regions. Anone with a branded device could wait upto another month as their carriers put their bloatware on it....

Sony Xperia T And Xperia TX Gets New Firmware This April

There is nothing quite like having decent hardware run on the latest version of software, where the latter would be useful in squeezing out every possible ounce of performance from the former. Well, having said that, we bring you word that there is new firmware (9.1.A.1.138) which has been certified for the Sony Xperia T (also known as the LT30p) and the Xperia TX (aka LT29i). Sony Mobile claims that this update for both devices is set to arrive from April onwards, although I am quite sure that the pegged April 1st date is not an attempt to pull a fast one on consumers.
This new firmware will also see the introduction of Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean to the Sony Xperia TX, as owners of this particular smartphone model were said to have been waiting for far too long for some Jelly Bean goodness. Apart from that, it is said that the update will bring along with it a fix for the problem that users have suffered from when running the Walkman app on Jelly Bean firmware. All’s well that ends well, no?

I don't agree. With Android 5 just three months away, we still have no date and no news about JB 4.2...
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All’s well that ends well, no?
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I don't agree. With Android 5 just three months away, we still have no date and no news about JB 4.2...
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skip jb 4.2 since its not really a huuuge update and then let them just work on andorid 5.0 thats what i think will probs happen hopfully we get 5.0 anways

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I don't agree. With Android 5 just three months away, we still have no date and no news about JB 4.2...
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Google hasn't even released details of Android 5.0, how do you expect the manufacturers to comment on something that hasn't completed development.

There's going to be so much hate from the other TX users, especially some "I TOLD YOU SO!" replies.
Sigh***...I just hope this will fix the OTHER Walkman bug, where music stops playing completely while browsing on the internet

1337rice said:
There's going to be so much hate from the other TX users, especially some "I TOLD YOU SO!" replies.
Sigh***...I just hope this will fix the OTHER Walkman bug, where music stops playing completely while browsing on the internet
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ah! I've had that issue happen to me on ICS! (not tested as such in JB..)
While browsing, the music player quits and it seems like a reset since it looses which track it was playing. Posted this on the Sony forum...typical reply..try reset/repair and it behaved same afterwards. no other reply.. (they seem not to be able to replicate the issue..which happens most of the time anywayz)

i really regret buying the tx though i like it too much.the update is very frustrating.i should have opted for the xperia z instead.:fingers-crossed:

Xperia Z huh?
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i really regret buying the tx though i like it too much.the update is very frustrating.i should have opted for the xperia z instead.:fingers-crossed:
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actually owners of the xperia Tx are just Few lucky people who got this Ultra Sexy design + Free from Hardware problems + best screen ever+Letting you know Xperia Z also suffering from SOD and am sure you dont wanna losse your phone after you get it by first charges xD
and here is the source =) http://www.gsmarena.com/some_sony_xperia_z_handsets_reportedly_suffering_sudden_death-news-5738.php
just be Proud of your tx its a Longterm mobile for me =)

mcsqwizzys98 said:
skip jb 4.2 since its not really a huuuge update and then let them just work on andorid 5.0 thats what i think will probs happen hopfully we get 5.0 anways
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We would never officially get 5.0. Period. And 4.2.2 IS a big update as there are many things that aren't available in 4.1 and considering Sony, they need to fix the Walkman bug and sound quality and sound level. 5.0 is too far away. There won't be a 5.0 device around until the end of the year (I presume).

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We would never officially get 5.0. Period. And 4.2.2 IS a big update as there are many things that aren't available in 4.1 and considering Sony, they need to fix the Walkman bug and sound quality and sound level. 5.0 is too far away. There won't be a 5.0 device around until the end of the year (I presume).
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Why wouldn't be get Android 5.0? I assume that it will be released at the end of the year, as ICS was with the Gnex.

fcb13 said:
Why wouldn't be get Android 5.0? I assume that it will be released at the end of the year, as ICS was with the Gnex.
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Let me direct your attention to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39398406
Also Nexus would always be the first to get a new firmware. Doesn't mean we would. Unless.. Sony decides to release their own Nexus!

ruwsoft said:
ah! I've had that issue happen to me on ICS! (not tested as such in JB..)
While browsing, the music player quits and it seems like a reset since it looses which track it was playing. Posted this on the Sony forum...typical reply..try reset/repair and it behaved same afterwards. no other reply.. (they seem not to be able to replicate the issue..which happens most of the time anywayz)
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I read about a fix for this if your 'phone is rooted, using an app like root app delete, remove/disable smart connect and apparently the pause bug is removed in walkman.

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I read about a fix for this if your 'phone is rooted, using an app like root app delete, remove/disable smart connect and apparently the pause bug is removed in walkman.
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thanks, though the bug i mentioned is, it quiting while browsing...not the pause bug while screen is off..

ruwsoft said:
thanks, though the bug i mentioned is, it quiting while browsing...not the pause bug while screen is off..
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I read about a fix for this if your 'phone is rooted, using an app like root app delete, remove/disable smart connect and apparently the pause bug is removed in walkman.
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Actually, they should still be the same problems that my TX is having. Maybe I'll give that a shot, load some songs, and run it. If it still doesn't work, I'll just continue using my Walkman Z :good:

Well after I thoughts about the awesomeness of the Sony company I something to say:
Jelly Bean was released almost TWO MONTHS AGO. For two months we, The Users, have to deal with many issues connected with crappy (yes, it's crappy) Jelly Bean released for T. Many problems experienced by many users are piling up on Q&A. This is pathetic. Walkman bug is not even fixed for now and will be fixed on week 14. Two months of waiting for the bug to be fixed. Xperia Z got its "Sudden Death" problem fixed in a couple of days and besides it already got a couple of updates since the release. Our phones - Xperia T, TX, TL and V are not even 6 months old and it looks like Sony downed the support to a minimum. I feel like I was kicked in the butt by them and their support is like "Look, people... we will release a couple of fixes but then just shut the hell up and buy our new phones! Yay!"
Take a look at Samsung. They claimed that many of their phones will receive 4.2 and then the support for better Android versions will stop. SGSII - two-years-old phone will be updated to 4.2.2! This is something amazing.
Eh. I've never thought Sony would piss me off so much. I thought it will never happen. But I see that the more Xperias come, the less they're supported. We don't even know if our T's and V's will be ever updated to 4.2. I guess Sony will just say "These phones don't have enough RAM" just like they said about 2011 phones and theirs 4.1. Hey, Sony! Xperia J has also 512 RAM and it's enough for the Jelly Bean to be released but for another 512MB's is not?! (Remember that all of 2011's have even more powerful CPUs than the J's)
Pa-the-tic.
Anyways I'm still happy of my T but the support is really screwed up...

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Well after I thoughts about the awesomeness of the Sony company I something to say:
Jelly Bean was released almost TWO MONTHS AGO. For two months we, The Users, have to deal with many issues connected with crappy (yes, it's crappy) Jelly Bean released for T. Many problems experienced by many users are piling up on Q&A. This is pathetic. Walkman bug is not even fixed for now and will be fixed on week 14. Two months of waiting for the bug to be fixed. Xperia Z got its "Sudden Death" problem fixed in a couple of days and besides it already got a couple of updates since the release. Our phones - Xperia T, TX, TL and V are not even 6 months old and it looks like Sony downed the support to a minimum. I feel like I was kicked in the butt by them and their support is like "Look, people... we will release a couple of fixes but then just shut the hell up and buy our new phones! Yay!"
Take a look at Samsung. They claimed that many of their phones will receive 4.2 and then the support for better Android versions will stop. SGSII - two-years-old phone will be updated to 4.2.2! This is something amazing.
Eh. I've never thought Sony would piss me off so much. I thought it will never happen. But I see that the more Xperias come, the less they're supported. We don't even know if our T's and V's will be ever updated to 4.2. I guess Sony will just say "These phones don't have enough RAM" just like they said about 2011 phones and theirs 4.1. Hey, Sony! Xperia J has also 512 RAM and it's enough for the Jelly Bean to be released but for another 512MB's is not?! (Remember that all of 2011's have even more powerful CPUs than the J's)
Pa-the-tic.
Anyways I'm still happy of my T but the support is really screwed up...
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Agree with you entirely! This why I kept saying Official KeyLimePie is a dream. They just keep releasing new devices until they overwhelm the market and the current owners feel like their devices are old. Flagship or not, this is what happens. Some people got really pissed off with me too in the other thread
Samsung doesn't support developers like Sony does, but at least they are generous enough to upgrade the firmware.

Damn im so sad now hopefully sony can change its ways! One of us xda people have to get hired as like lead software dudes and change them lol

mcsqwizzys98 said:
Damn im so sad now hopefully sony can change its ways! One of us xda people have to get hired as like lead software dudes and change them lol
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Haha if they are willing to hire lazy ass bums I'm up for it!

AW: Sony Xperia T And Xperia TX Gets New Firmware This April
romcio47 said:
Well after I thoughts about the awesomeness of the Sony company I something to say:
Jelly Bean was released almost TWO MONTHS AGO. For two months we, The Users, have to deal with many issues connected with crappy (yes, it's crappy) Jelly Bean released for T. Many problems experienced by many users are piling up on Q&A. This is pathetic. Walkman bug is not even fixed for now and will be fixed on week 14. Two months of waiting for the bug to be fixed. Xperia Z got its "Sudden Death" problem fixed in a couple of days and besides it already got a couple of updates since the release. Our phones - Xperia T, TX, TL and V are not even 6 months old and it looks like Sony downed the support to a minimum. I feel like I was kicked in the butt by them and their support is like "Look, people... we will release a couple of fixes but then just shut the hell up and buy our new phones! Yay!"
Take a look at Samsung. They claimed that many of their phones will receive 4.2 and then the support for better Android versions will stop. SGSII - two-years-old phone will be updated to 4.2.2! This is something amazing.
Eh. I've never thought Sony would piss me off so much. I thought it will never happen. But I see that the more Xperias come, the less they're supported. We don't even know if our T's and V's will be ever updated to 4.2. I guess Sony will just say "These phones don't have enough RAM" just like they said about 2011 phones and theirs 4.1. Hey, Sony! Xperia J has also 512 RAM and it's enough for the Jelly Bean to be released but for another 512MB's is not?! (Remember that all of 2011's have even more powerful CPUs than the J's)
Pa-the-tic.
Anyways I'm still happy of my T but the support is really screwed up...
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mhh okay we have the walkman bug (I don't but others have), I can't find many other issues (nothing), I had a s3 and they released many updates for jb in a row but not because they are more userfriendly, it was because each new version had to fix some new bugs and they were much more annoying.
also jb on the s3 is more laggy than on xperia t, believe me. you can always say "why do contacts not instantly open on my t" but with an s3 you can be happy when they are open under 5 seconds and this on a Quadcore phone ...
who knows if we get 4.2 officially, even if not the port will be faster and more bug free than the official 4.2 from Samsung, I'm sure. but you are right, we have to get official 4.2 because we have bought an expensive flagship device.
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cmajetic said:
mhh okay we have the walkman bug (I don't but others have), I can't find many other issues (nothing), I had a s3 and they released many updates for jb in a row but not because they are more userfriendly, it was because each new version had to fix some new bugs and they were much more annoying.
also jb on the s3 is more laggy than on xperia t, believe me. you can always say "why do contacts not instantly open on my t" but with an s3 you can be happy when they are open under 5 seconds and this on a Quadcore phone ...
who knows if we get 4.2 officially, even if not the port will be faster and more bug free than the official 4.2 from Samsung, I'm sure. but you are right, we have to get official 4.2 because we have bought an expensive flagship device.
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Unless you got the Korean variant, you must be having the 1GB Ram variant of the GS3. JB is laggy on GS3 because of TouchWiz. Use a custom ROM and its all good. Touchwiz is such a Ram hogger.
And we definitely would get 4.2! Otherwise it's just ridiculous.. I'll burn Sony down! Its the next increment im afraid of. Also remember GS3 has many more inbuilt features than our T (software wise) such as multiwindow, so it tends to be slower. I'm not saying its better though. We got smallapps

Maybe we are not getting 4.2.2, maybe we are getting 4.3

Android Police has uncovered evidence of android 4.3 in the works, most likely to be announced at I/O next month.
Could it be possible that 4.2.2 has been delayed because the awesome people at Sony are working instead on 4.3?
Probably not but it would be cool if Sony could be ahead of the development curve for once
http://www.theupload.geek.nz/2013/04/tech-google-to-release-android-43-at-io.html

exekias said:
Android Police has uncovered evidence of android 4.3 in the works, most likely to be announced at I/O next month.
Could it be possible that 4.2.2 has been delayed because the awesome people at Sony are working instead on 4.3?
Probably not but it would be cool if Sony could be ahead of the development curve for once
http://www.theupload.geek.nz/2013/04/tech-google-to-release-android-43-at-io.html
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xperia z is not even mention in that article how do you even make that assumption.

G1_enthusiast said:
xperia z is not even mention in that article how do you even make that assumption.
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Not an assumption but a hopeful guess, where we not told 4.2.2 would arrive in March?? Its April so if 4.3 is near maybe the Sony team are making that for us instead THUS the delay

exekias said:
Not an assumption but a hopeful guess, where we not told 4.2.2 would arrive in March?? Its April so if 4.3 is near maybe the Sony team are making that for us instead THUS the delay
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I dont know how Sony is with their update but it takes Samsung FOREVER to update their phone. I been using CM10 so when they announce 4.1.2 I'm not even amazed or care.

I don't think Google would release source code (or whatever) early. And you can't assume from this rumour that Sony is waiting.
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Even IF there will be a 4.3, we will get 4.2 first. IF there will be a 4.3:
1: It's not out yet (4.2 is)
2: Source codes aren't given out yet (4.2 source codes are)
IF 4.3 comes out then I guess we will get it before 5.0.
Way too many if's in this topic.
I vote for this bs to be closed.

DdcCabuslay said:
I don't think Google would release source code (or whatever) early. And you can't assume from this rumour that Sony is waiting.
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A good part is given to companies before the release to they can start working on it before it is actually released.

Felimenta97 said:
A good part is given to companies before the release to they can start working on it before it is actually released.
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Oh.
Well the more you know.
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DdcCabuslay said:
Oh.
Well the more you know.
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I think I wrote my post wrong.
AFAIK, only a part (not a good one) is sent to SOME companies (the biggest ones). The smaller ones don't get it so soon.

Seeming Sony is an AOSP partner I have no doubts their are People at Sony right now who know about 4.3, I highly doubt Google keeps their manufacturers in the dark until the launch day causing all OEMS to play catch up

It's been confirmed before that Sony is one of the key partners already working on the 'next' platform. They contribute a huge amount to Android compared to all the other manufacturers and it's going to give them the competitive edge some day.

I don't think so. Sony said that 4.2 update should be released soon after the phone's release, that means they must have been working on it for quite a while now. They won't just scrap their work and wait few months before 4.3/5.0 sources are released to start working again.
I think we'll get both of them, 4.2 in may/june and 4.3/5.0 probably 3-6 months after release - and let's hope it won't be wishful thinking.

I'd rather get 4.2 in a month or so than getting an hypothetical 4.3 in a 6 months...

babylonbwoy said:
I'd rather get 4.2 in a month or so than getting an hypothetical 4.3 in a 6 months...
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hypothetical situations don't help but what does 4.2 really bring???? For the GNex is drastically reduced SOD but the Z doesn't have that issue.
If Sony turned around and asked and promised 4.2 next week OR 4.3 in 6 months I would take 4.3.
That said without a change log Who knows what 4.3 brings it may just be as useless at 4.2

exekias said:
hypothetical situations don't help but what does 4.2 really bring???? For the GNex is drastically reduced SOD but the Z doesn't have that issue.
If Sony turned around and asked and promised 4.2 next week OR 4.3 in 6 months I would take 4.3.
That said without a change log Who knows what 4.3 brings it may just be as useless at 4.2
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But a hypothetical situation is what this thread is based on. Realistically it's a case of sit back and enjoy the handset as it is until Mr Sony pushes us an update. Some people are getting stressed out about updates. Frankly if it's not in my hands. I'm not worried about it. Just my opinion.
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exekias said:
hypothetical situations don't help but what does 4.2 really bring????
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To be honest, XZ has "no use" for 4.2 - by this I mean there are no features worth the hype in it, and honestly I only hope for it to include core OS bugfixes and some XZ-specific fixes like WiFi performance etc.

We always looking for Somin which isn't Even out.... How much of 4.2 have you used?
::Neebz::

There seems to be quite a few articles online saying that the Xperia Z is going to be one of the first devices to get KLP.. They even write it in a 'shocked' manner which I guess based on Sony's update history is rather appropriate.

kalo88 said:
There seems to be quite a few articles online saying that the Xperia Z is going to be one of the first devices to get KLP.. They even write it in a 'shocked' manner which I guess based on Sony's update history is rather appropriate.
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Just read the articles. Might this as well indicate that Sony might be the next Nexus manufacturer?
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This brings back "2.1 to 2.2" update we faced with our beloved X10
Sony Ericsson back then did skip Frozen Yoghurt and jumped right onto Gingerbread..
I'm not sure if this is the case though because they have been working on 4.2 and it's not easy to scrap all the hard work and start all over again

[Q] 5L for RAZR-I. Why not?

Are any restrictions for 5L in Razr-I ?

No restrictions on the hardware side. Go forward and do it.
A more serious problem is the missing manpower, to solve some problems because the source is not complete (cf. here).
I am always wondering why people think that it is self evident that someone will make perfect custom rom if the hardware allows it (kudos to them who do).
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pirast said:
No restrictions on the hardware side. Go forward and do it.
A more serious problem is the missing manpower, to solve some problems because the source is not complete (cf. here).
I am always wondering why people think that it is self evident that someone will make perfect custom rom if the hardware allows it (kudos to them who do).
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Thanks a lot for your answer! Until we are wondering we are living. The number of RAZR-I owner who are interesting in L5 is more then who are interesting in proper work of 4.4. beta (acc to threads list ) It is a magic our hardware allowance, isn't it?

If they are really keen on doing it, i'm sure they can. But at this point I just don't think it's worth it. Considering it is a 2 years old device. The more popular S3 didn't even get 4.4 and is stuck at 4.3, and that is around the same age as the RAZR i. They announced the 4.4.2 for RAZR i a long time back, and till now it is not out yet, which shows how little resources are being dedicated to bringing more updates to the RAZR i. I'm pretty sure 4.4.2 update when it does roll out will be the last update for the device.
I would be happy with a 4.4.2 with as little bugs as possible.

there's no hope, i remember in somehow that i read, this is the last upgrade to Ri, there's no more future plans to update this device...
but don't worry, maybe we can port 5L to Ri...
..."maybe"

The phone simply does not Cut it Performance wise. All those Animations...