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It seems to me that this phone has reached death. All the forums seemed to have died (here,droidhive,rootzwiki,android-den(which hasn't really taken off) and where ever else) and quite frankly I'm disappointed. There really hasn't been any steps forward in ICS since I don't even know when (hw codecs/bluetooth/whatever else). Unfortunately I'm still 9 months away from upgrading.
I don't mean to sound like I'm complaining because I really do appreciate all of the dev work thus far(Hashcode, sparkyman, and others are the shiz), but its like we've hit a brick wall. ICS isn't complete and won't be and gingerbread doesn't seem good enough. I am grateful of everyones work. I just wish more Could be done.
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This was my first android phone and obviously a mistake. Not that I should have gotten an iprison(I am anti I everything). I hope progress can be made. At this point though I'm sure Motorola Was and Is a mistake and I should have known better previously owning a Q9C.
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This should be in general
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This should be in general
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why? It's about the development - the phone itself isnt dead.
But I agree. I was hoping to use this phone for 2 years (using 0.5 year now). I thought that eventually, we'd get ICS like we deserve. Guess not . I'm not sure how fast/supported this phone will be using gingerbread in 1.5 year
and except Droid 4 and RAZR MAXX..what other options we've got?!
galaxy no way (too big and overrated), and HTCs are all the same: big and no qwerty. nothing to get out of the crowd...like RAZR MAXX.
i used to be a fan of HTC, since S710 days..but now i'm bored by their lack of originality. no qwerty and no good processors for the small ones (<4" display).
not really dead everyone just faced the fact that ics will not happen for the d3 and blame the lack of ram for it..although we have proven that the d3 does and can handle ics and it does improve it no dev will continue to develop it due to the locked bootloader and the work involved to write all new kernals and bypasses fir it..there are 2 great gb roms in development..team haters (my fav) and mavrom{my 2nd fav}..both development crews hang out on droidforums stop by say hi and give their roms a whirl
Because its not development, its venting about our forgotten phone. And while I feel the same as you, its still not development
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I noticed the same thing but dont really mind.
Im on a ATT contract for another year and 4 months or so.
Ive always wanted a droid and got the droid 3 because it works on att. It has to be the best sliding keyboard phone out their, and beats using any virtual keyboard IMO.
Even if development isnt strong, we have got it better then a lot of other phones. We have stable gingerbread roms and we can overclock it.
The Droid 3 is still a good phone and i know il be getting a good year of use out of it. .. hopefully then keyboard phones come back to life...
But i never used to post really on these forums but seeing they are kind of dead, i decided to become as active as i can to help around.
Is the droid three dead? Yes, in a way. The phone's bootloader is locked. This is the ONLY thing that is stopping any major developments on the Droid 3. If Moto, or google at this point, decided to unlock the phone... We would have Ice Cream sandwich 100% working (provided that they released the source code as well), and we would be eagerly looking forward to Jelly Bean. I often go on the Google+ Google account and harass them, I know I won't win but I am always hoping for a miracle.
As it stands now, there is a large chance that I will leave Verizon when my contract is up. Their handling of this phone as well as their pocketbooks has left a bad taste in my mouth. After 6/28/2012 (my birthday of all things), any phone being upgraded via contract will LOOSE their UNLIMITED data. You will have to purchase phones off contract to be able to keep your unlimited plan (It's only like $400 for a good android phone). Not only that, you will be charged a $30 fee just to upgrade.
So in conclusion:
Our phone is on life support. We are getting by with such developers as TeamHaters, Maverick, and Hashcode (who's still realasing AOKP updates for our phones), who are doing an excellent job keeping our phones working the best they can with what they have. Until there is a cure for our Bootloader issue... Our phone is stuck in intensive care, and Patch Adams is their to annoy the hell out of it.
Does anyone think googles new PDK will help our device? its supposed to allow low level api for easier porting of android to hardware. Think this could bring around any fixes? Ofcourse the bootloader will be locked but it mite make the making of kernels not take 6-8 months as hash said and help him out.
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This is the ONLY thing that is stopping any major developments on the Droid 3. If Moto, or google at this point, decided to unlock the phone... We would have Ice Cream sandwich 100% working (provided that they released the source code as well), and we would be eagerly looking forward to Jelly Bean.
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*sigh* I hate to be the one that has to come in and burst everyone's bubble every time someone makes this argument, but the problem is not the locked bootloader. If the bootloader was unlocked, we'd be in the same exact position. Hashcode has stated this several times. We'd still be without hardware codecs, we'd still be having Bluetooth issues, we'd still have all the same issues because they're all a matter of hardware limitations or lack of documentation on certain parts of the proprietary hardware.
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*sigh* I hate to be the one that has to come in and burst everyone's bubble every time someone makes this argument, but the problem is not the locked bootloader. If the bootloader was unlocked, we'd be in the same exact position. Hashcode has stated this several times. We'd still be without hardware codecs, we'd still be having Bluetooth issues, we'd still have all the same issues because they're all a matter of hardware limitations or lack of documentation on certain parts of the proprietary hardware.
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It's the combination between the bootloader and the source code
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It's the combination between the bootloader and the source code
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It's more of a "TI doesn't support hardware codecs for devices >1GB data". TI doesn't release source code for those binaries and isn't obliged to, so that's not really an argument that should be made. It's simply that our phone was cursed from release.
EDIT: And as of now I can no longer say "our phone" as I jumped ship to the Razr... goodbye, Droid 3 community, you will be missed...
When Ics gets released this year for droid it is getting better
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Nope, it's not, because ICS isn't going to be released to D3. This is it, for better or worse.
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Nope, it's not, because ICS isn't going to be released to D3. This is it, for better or worse.
Rocking with my M3 and XDA app
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who cares. I had ICS on a device before and its not that different besides a different interface .. after using ICS i prefer gingerbread's layout..
Juicy555 said:
who cares. I had ICS on a device before and its not that different besides a different interface .. after using ICS i prefer gingerbread's layout..
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ICS is majorly different from previous releases under the hood. It uses a different kernel; things have been made more efficient; the APIs have been updated to allow for more possibilities for app developers; certain parts of how the system overall operates have undergone drastic resigns; etc.. All of this came at the price of needing better hardware to incorporate new features, but I say it was well worth it and is a very large difference even without the interface changes.
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*sigh* I hate to be the one that has to come in and burst everyone's bubble every time someone makes this argument, but the problem is not the locked bootloader. If the bootloader was unlocked, we'd be in the same exact position. Hashcode has stated this several times. We'd still be without hardware codecs, we'd still be having Bluetooth issues, we'd still have all the same issues because they're all a matter of hardware limitations or lack of documentation on certain parts of the proprietary hardware.
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but anyway hashcode would be able to trial and error approach without deeming the device unusable (loading kernels, and modules and stuff)
it would certainly help to have an unlocked bootloader.
but without source of course it would be time consuming and without knowing when it would have success
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This thing is a brick in my pocket compared to galaxy line and most htc phones, check out the quad core HTC One X w/beats audio or the galaxy note etc for "originality" but seems like all manufacturers are using a very similar forum factor. I agree the qwerty is nice to have but it doubles the size of the phone as well(unless maybe desire z) so you kind of have to choose.
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This thing is a brick in my pocket compared to galaxy line and most htc phones, check out the quad core HTC One X w/beats audio or the galaxy note etc for "originality" but seems like all manufacturers are using a very similar forum factor. I agree the qwerty is nice to have but it doubles the size of the phone as well(unless maybe desire z) so you kind of have to choose.
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I came from one of those phones and dont mind the difference. In fact the keyboard is one of the best features ive had on any of my smartphones. And a 4" is perfect for me, coming from a 4.5" screen.
Hi, i have a Motorola defy and i want to buy a razr i, But first i want to know if this device Will have cyanogenmod and active development.
And besides i want to know if it Will be a good purchase.
Thanks in advance and greetings from argentina
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In my view, it will be certainly a good purchase, but the chance of the device receiving a 'non-stock-based' ROM like CyanogenMod, as things are now, is very low. The sources released by Motorola are broken.
Things may well change in a very near future, but that is my hope and nothing more concrete than that (again, considering things as they are now).
BTW, I must say I am having the 'smoothest' and 'closest-to-pure-android' experience in a stock ROM ever. I'm really happy with it.
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Thanks for the quick answer But i have another doubt. What about the performance vs galaxy s3 for example, i was reading that the razr is faster than the s3 when you open an app. Is that True? Also understood that the camera isnt very good, what about that?
Thanks again
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Redhotero said:
Thanks for the quick answer But i have another doubt. What about the performance vs galaxy s3 for example, i was reading that the razr is faster than the s3 when you open an app. Is that True? Also understood that the camera isnt very good, what about that?
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In raw performance, the S3 will surely beat the RAZR i. But it seems legit that the perceptive performance, mainly general usage of apps and system features, is on par with the S3. I haven't had a S3 in my hands to really attest it, though.
The camera produces lots of noise on dark photos. LOTS of noise. But overall it is fine, if you don't expect your phone to replace a dedicated camera for the most demanding situations.
AW: Razr i development future
Its fast at opening apps fast st browsing loading pages and JScript overall the best with the iPhone.
It doesn't bench bad, at CPU and memory its very fast while the GPU performance is bad, good enough for all games with some reduced details though.
If you want a fast phone with good battery life and compact size its RAZR I or iPhone 5.
If u can live or even want it big go s3, nexus4 they are good phones, the one x plus is good too but its expensive.
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In my view, it will be certainly a good purchase, but the chance of the device receiving a 'non-stock-based' ROM like CyanogenMod, as things are now, is very low. The sources released by Motorola are broken.
Things may well change in a very near future, but that is my hope and nothing more concrete than that (again, considering things as they are now).
BTW, I must say I am having the 'smoothest' and 'closest-to-pure-android' experience in a stock ROM ever. I'm really happy with it.
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The sources were fixed a long time ago by Motorola! Why everybody is saying the same wrong things over and over again????
Stop doing this, then maybe at some point somebody will develop sth
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The sources were fixed a long time ago by Motorola! Why everybody is saying the same wrong things over and over again????
Stop doing this, then maybe at some point somebody will develop sth
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All I know is that they did release new sources, but haven't seen anyone built it successfully yet nor use it to build a device tree for a custom ROM.
If you know something else, please share with us.
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The problem was that at the very beginning the source packages / one of the source packages was corrupted, which means that it was not extractable. This was fixed in November or December according to the razr i sourceforge page. Now you can download and extract all files. The fact that nobody was able to compile it does not mean that they gave us bad sources!!! Its just not completely easy and needs some experience ...
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All I know is that they did release new sources, but haven't seen anyone built it successfully yet nor use it to build a device tree for a custom ROM.
If you know something else, please share with us.
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Is it my imagination, or has the Nexus 7 gone the way of most Android devices? The development cycle is so tight that anything over a few months old gets cut loose and never sees another update. This seems like a rampant issue. My Galaxy Tab 10.1 will probably never see another update either, and definitely will never see JB. Tablets seem worse than phones too. Someone correct me if I'm way off base here. I completely understand how this has happened, but I don't have to like it. And I wonder how consumers can influence this situation. What is worse, the Nexus 7 has not been superseded by another product yet, and still the updates seem to have completely stopped. I must say that Apple is somewhat better about supporting it's hardware longer too.
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Past history with non-nexus devices!! LOL
What are you going on about? Nexus devices get updates faster than any other devices....and longer support than other devices.
What color are the clouds in your world?
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
In addition, just because bugs are identified and there may be a rumored fix with it, many good devs will continue to monitor their fix, test it, and see how it does; ensuring that the fix does not create a more bugs (in quantity and severity) than there were in a previous build.
Patience is a virtue. There's a reason why this saying is an aphorism.
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What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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kj2112 said:
What color are the clouds in your world?
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Apparently pretty dark :crying:
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Apparently pretty dark :crying:
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Just....wow! Lol
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The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
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I think the Nexus "8" will be out by then and the 7 will be deemed too anemic to run the newer software. As I said, it was just an observation of a phenomenon with the hardware development cycle we have with Android. And yes, the situation is way worse with non-Nexus devices. My Sprint HTC One is pretty buggy and the phones generally seem to all have bugs that may eventually get fixed. But more often than not they just move on to the next big thing and you just have to live with the bugs until you replace the phone and get a whole new list of bugs. You can ROM the phone and sacrifice features along with different bugs of course. Consumer demand has shaped things such that there are never resources to really get existing devices locked down and bug free. There is no incentive for developers to work on existing devices, but always to develop for the next thing going out the door. Apparently there is a known bug in my HTC One that has to do with an incorrectly located file directory causing horrible battery issues. Weeks or months go by with no OTA to fix it.
Google wants every OEM to support devices for at least 18 months, so you can bet that nexus devices will get at least that and probably longer. I'm about 99% sure that the Nexus 7 will get key lime pie at least.
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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
I definitely think you should sell your n7 and get one of those awesome no name tabs everyone loves!! I'm sure they will be updated frequently and quickly!! I think some already have key lime pie!!
Just my advice.
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On top of there being nothing new in the world of android for the N7 to be updated to, I'm also curious on what "bugs" the op thinks need fixed?
I'm running latest rasbean on my phone and stock 4.2.2 on the 7 and have literally no bugs on either. Completely functional and stable (neither device has even been rebooted in almost 3 weeks).
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There are bugs, fixes and new features in almost every release: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
Look at the release dates to determine if releases are frequent enough.
Sometimes preventing an OTA update to a Nexus 7 device can be the challenge. Lol!
(still running 4.1.2 on my N7)
I got a Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 RT Surface so I can experience obsolescence instead of updates. LOL
My two Nexus 7, one Grouper and one Tilapia, will be merrily updated to every new version of Android. I can't wait for more *fragmentation* with the next Android release.
Sorry gotta go run with the low information crowd, there is a protest nearby. ...
Thread is silly. Sorry OP.
Nexus One - Released with 2.1, EOL with 2.3.6 (2010 - 2011)
Nexus S - Released with 2.3, EOL with 4.1 (2010 - 2012)
Galaxy Nexus - Released with 4.0, still supported
Nexus 4 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Nexus 7 - Released with 4.1, still supported
Nexus 10 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Every device has made it through a year's worth at the very least, and that's starting with the Nexus One. At the time when the Nexus One was released, phone hardware was changing almost faster than it is now, and it still got quite a run of updates.
Please do some research before whining. The Nexus 7 hasn't seen an update as of now because there's no update to see.
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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Bad idea if current information is anything to go by. Google doesn't really seem to be doing altogether much more to support these two devices than it does for most-- it'll send the builds of Android as appropriate to the OEMs but it'll be up to them to actually tune everything.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
No. The Google edition phones are not nexus devices.. At all.
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
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Well, now I have done a complete 180. I have a Sprint HTC One from Ting.com. My bill is a fourth what it was with Verizon or AT&T and I rely mostly on WiFi/VOIP service. Too bad the HTC One is so terrible at holding onto a WiFi signal. I may have to switch back to a Samsung device if Sprint can't resolve this. Ting does support the Galaxy Nexus, among other Samsung phones.
Around here Verizon does have the best coverage BY FAR though.
Hi!
Someone know if this Drivers give us some possibility to adapt a ROM with Android KitKat 4.4 for our Droid3 phones?
I have a Milestone 3 (XT860), and I think they have the same micro.
I´m sorry for mi english, I write you from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...possibly-aid-galaxy-nexus-kitkat-development/
Thank you very much!!!
I'm hoping, but we just don't have a dev strong enough to build some ROMs for us. I've been following and dhacker29 has been hard at work on this which really surprises me. It's actually coming together quite well. I will be curious to see how it progresses.
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I'm hoping, but we just don't have a dev strong enough to build some ROMs for us. I've been following and dhacker29 has been hard at work on this which really surprises me. It's actually coming together quite well. I will be curious to see how it progresses.
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I'm just a newbie when it comes to developing for android and such, but knowing the specs of the D3 and what KitKat is supposed to run on, there honestly should be no real excuse. I understand it's a two year phone, but I wish Motorola would stop and think about old high end phones that people end up buying for cheap a year or two after release.
I think that's the point of the G. The problem isn't that Motorola or Google couldn't make a Kit Kat rom as much as TI got out of the mobile chipset business but didn't give out the source for everything. If we had the source getting a developer to help would be much much easier. I am like you in that I am not a developer but just good at fixing things and have a job helping others fix computers on the high end.
We could sure try but the other problem is that 4.4 made drivers basically need to be recompiled for a newer kernel and we can't just reuse the drivers from older builds.
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I stand corrected:
https://twitter.com/Hashcode0f/status/412085997740888064
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@Xbacko The current Moto OMAP CM11 build needs some minor fixes and then it will be compatible for Droid 3. Still no camera tho.
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Waiting anxiously for kitkat on solana! (and maybe full camera working?)
Hey guys, I dis a little research in the web but found nothing concrete about the KitKat update for the Xperia T. I would like to know what has been decided for this good device.
No news yet...
...and official firmware support has ended on April (18 months from the release of the device).
From my point of view, we can only hope in a last version for JB 4.3
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No news yet...
...and official firmware support has ended on April (18 months from the release of the device).
From my point of view, we can only hope in a last version for JB 4.3
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Yap, that's what read, final jb 4.3 bug fix
have to settle for 4.3, sony puts kitkat under investigation, but I do not give us that update, no longer interested in us...
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have to settle for 4.3, sony puts kitkat under investigation, but I do not give us that update, no longer interested in us...
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.... and we are no longer interested in Sony
Seriously with that cycle, release with old version then delay, then finally a release ... a buggy release... Thanks
I don't know why you talk like that to Sony, the Xperia T has the same updates the Galaxy Nexus,that it's the market not only Sony.
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moliverac8 said:
I don't know why you talk like that to Sony, the Xperia T has the same updates the Galaxy Nexus,that it's the market not only Sony.
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Becuase I am a little frustrated. Maybe its because I expected more and you are correct I was a bit sarcastic for which I apologize.
Still I have Sony camera and I appreciate all they do and its good that they are strong now, they diversify the market.
Lets hope that they will keep with our highest expectations and provide at least one more build - stable 4.3 or 4.4.
I'd be surprised if there are any further updates to 4.3. I doubt 4.4 will make it to the T in official form.
As for buggy? I haven't had a single problem with mine since upgrading to 4.3
All this bull**** about I want 4.4 NOW nad Sony suck because they're not supporting the phone for ever, just shows some people to be acting like spoilt children.
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I'd be surprised if there are any further updates to 4.3. I doubt 4.4 will make it to the T in official form.
As for buggy? I haven't had a single problem with mine since upgrading to 4.3
All this bull**** about I want 4.4 NOW nad Sony suck because they're not supporting the phone for ever, just shows some people to be acting like spoilt children.
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Bugs? I tell you one: I can't use my Bluetooth and Wifi at the same moment, I have to switch between, that is very inconvenient... Childish? I need my phone for everyday life
Skyguar said:
Bugs? I tell you one: I can't use my Bluetooth and Wifi at the same moment, I have to switch between, that is very inconvenient...
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What I think he meant is that it's not a bug if it only happens to you. That fact that your phone isn't working for you isn't necessarily the case for everyone. The only problem I've had with my phone is all the bloatware it comes with, and the white settings; both of which can be fixed easily.
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What I think he meant is that it's not a bug if it only happens to you. That fact that your phone isn't working for you isn't necessarily the case for everyone.
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According to your logic and, for example, if you just using the phone for calling and messaging, the firmware for you is good . But I believe the phone should be fully functioning because everybody has different needs
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According to your logic and, for example, if you just using the phone for calling and messaging, the firmware for you is good . But I believe the phone should be fully functioning because everybody has different needs
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And that was exactly my point. If the phone is fully functional for others and not for you, doesn't make it a bug, it just means that whatever you are using under your specific circumstances is not working for you. It's not about people's needs, it's about the phone working as the developers expected it to.
For instance, I've heard people complain about the microphone picking up the sound of the camera focusing while recording. If that is how the developers intended it to work, then it's not a bug, regardless of whether it interferes with the black and white silent movies they are trying to produce.
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And that was exactly my point. If the phone is fully functional for others and not for you, doesn't make it a bug, it just means that whatever you are using under your specific circumstances is not working for you. It's not about people's needs, it's about the phone working as the developers expected it to.
For instance, I've heard people complain about the microphone picking up the sound of the camera focusing while recording. If that is how the developers intended it to work, then it's not a bug, regardless of whether it interferes with the black and white silent movies they are trying to produce.
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With that logic we can come to the conclusion if something is not working, it is just "specific circumstances" .Bytheway, this bug somewhere I read was fixed for other phones . And also I am not alone complaining about the bugs, ok, according to you "specific circumstances". But I will not get into the further discussions
Skyguar said:
With that logic we can come to the conclusion if something is not working, it is just "specific circumstances"
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No, because if nobody can make a phone call, then it's not "specific circumstances"; if you're the only one that can't make a call, there must be some circumstance preventing you from doing so. You really don't know much about logic.
I don't think it comes for xperia t any other series which came with xperia t.
I recently stumbled upon this news
http://motoringcrunch.com/news/sony-xperia-getting-exclusive-kitkat-4-4-3-features/10018672/
Sony website still says 'under investigation' but there still might be hope for us T, TX and V users yet.
I doubt that they are actually still investigating if our devices are compatible with KitKat. More likely, they are already working on the new firmware and dont want anyone to know because then they would get thousands of messages about ETA and that stuff.
Sony cant just leave us alone with a more or less working 4.3 as the last update.
In Japan they have this law that they can only keep a appliance, gadgets or cars for a certain period of time and if they want it to keep it for a longer time they have to pay a higher tax. Maybe Sony apply that principle of this law to our devices
"gadgets need love too"
I really don't care anymore. In a few months it's time for a new phone. LG G3 here i come
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r-l said:
I really don't care anymore. In a few months it's time for a new phone. LG G3 here i come
Sent from my Xperia T using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Just curious.. Why not OnePlus One?