Hi, i have a Motorola defy and i want to buy a razr i, But first i want to know if this device Will have cyanogenmod and active development.
And besides i want to know if it Will be a good purchase.
Thanks in advance and greetings from argentina
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In my view, it will be certainly a good purchase, but the chance of the device receiving a 'non-stock-based' ROM like CyanogenMod, as things are now, is very low. The sources released by Motorola are broken.
Things may well change in a very near future, but that is my hope and nothing more concrete than that (again, considering things as they are now).
BTW, I must say I am having the 'smoothest' and 'closest-to-pure-android' experience in a stock ROM ever. I'm really happy with it.
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Thanks for the quick answer But i have another doubt. What about the performance vs galaxy s3 for example, i was reading that the razr is faster than the s3 when you open an app. Is that True? Also understood that the camera isnt very good, what about that?
Thanks again
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Redhotero said:
Thanks for the quick answer But i have another doubt. What about the performance vs galaxy s3 for example, i was reading that the razr is faster than the s3 when you open an app. Is that True? Also understood that the camera isnt very good, what about that?
Thanks again
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In raw performance, the S3 will surely beat the RAZR i. But it seems legit that the perceptive performance, mainly general usage of apps and system features, is on par with the S3. I haven't had a S3 in my hands to really attest it, though.
The camera produces lots of noise on dark photos. LOTS of noise. But overall it is fine, if you don't expect your phone to replace a dedicated camera for the most demanding situations.
AW: Razr i development future
Its fast at opening apps fast st browsing loading pages and JScript overall the best with the iPhone.
It doesn't bench bad, at CPU and memory its very fast while the GPU performance is bad, good enough for all games with some reduced details though.
If you want a fast phone with good battery life and compact size its RAZR I or iPhone 5.
If u can live or even want it big go s3, nexus4 they are good phones, the one x plus is good too but its expensive.
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In my view, it will be certainly a good purchase, but the chance of the device receiving a 'non-stock-based' ROM like CyanogenMod, as things are now, is very low. The sources released by Motorola are broken.
Things may well change in a very near future, but that is my hope and nothing more concrete than that (again, considering things as they are now).
BTW, I must say I am having the 'smoothest' and 'closest-to-pure-android' experience in a stock ROM ever. I'm really happy with it.
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The sources were fixed a long time ago by Motorola! Why everybody is saying the same wrong things over and over again????
Stop doing this, then maybe at some point somebody will develop sth
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The sources were fixed a long time ago by Motorola! Why everybody is saying the same wrong things over and over again????
Stop doing this, then maybe at some point somebody will develop sth
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All I know is that they did release new sources, but haven't seen anyone built it successfully yet nor use it to build a device tree for a custom ROM.
If you know something else, please share with us.
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The problem was that at the very beginning the source packages / one of the source packages was corrupted, which means that it was not extractable. This was fixed in November or December according to the razr i sourceforge page. Now you can download and extract all files. The fact that nobody was able to compile it does not mean that they gave us bad sources!!! Its just not completely easy and needs some experience ...
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All I know is that they did release new sources, but haven't seen anyone built it successfully yet nor use it to build a device tree for a custom ROM.
If you know something else, please share with us.
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It seems to me that this phone has reached death. All the forums seemed to have died (here,droidhive,rootzwiki,android-den(which hasn't really taken off) and where ever else) and quite frankly I'm disappointed. There really hasn't been any steps forward in ICS since I don't even know when (hw codecs/bluetooth/whatever else). Unfortunately I'm still 9 months away from upgrading.
I don't mean to sound like I'm complaining because I really do appreciate all of the dev work thus far(Hashcode, sparkyman, and others are the shiz), but its like we've hit a brick wall. ICS isn't complete and won't be and gingerbread doesn't seem good enough. I am grateful of everyones work. I just wish more Could be done.
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This was my first android phone and obviously a mistake. Not that I should have gotten an iprison(I am anti I everything). I hope progress can be made. At this point though I'm sure Motorola Was and Is a mistake and I should have known better previously owning a Q9C.
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This should be in general
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why? It's about the development - the phone itself isnt dead.
But I agree. I was hoping to use this phone for 2 years (using 0.5 year now). I thought that eventually, we'd get ICS like we deserve. Guess not . I'm not sure how fast/supported this phone will be using gingerbread in 1.5 year
and except Droid 4 and RAZR MAXX..what other options we've got?!
galaxy no way (too big and overrated), and HTCs are all the same: big and no qwerty. nothing to get out of the crowd...like RAZR MAXX.
i used to be a fan of HTC, since S710 days..but now i'm bored by their lack of originality. no qwerty and no good processors for the small ones (<4" display).
not really dead everyone just faced the fact that ics will not happen for the d3 and blame the lack of ram for it..although we have proven that the d3 does and can handle ics and it does improve it no dev will continue to develop it due to the locked bootloader and the work involved to write all new kernals and bypasses fir it..there are 2 great gb roms in development..team haters (my fav) and mavrom{my 2nd fav}..both development crews hang out on droidforums stop by say hi and give their roms a whirl
Because its not development, its venting about our forgotten phone. And while I feel the same as you, its still not development
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I noticed the same thing but dont really mind.
Im on a ATT contract for another year and 4 months or so.
Ive always wanted a droid and got the droid 3 because it works on att. It has to be the best sliding keyboard phone out their, and beats using any virtual keyboard IMO.
Even if development isnt strong, we have got it better then a lot of other phones. We have stable gingerbread roms and we can overclock it.
The Droid 3 is still a good phone and i know il be getting a good year of use out of it. .. hopefully then keyboard phones come back to life...
But i never used to post really on these forums but seeing they are kind of dead, i decided to become as active as i can to help around.
Is the droid three dead? Yes, in a way. The phone's bootloader is locked. This is the ONLY thing that is stopping any major developments on the Droid 3. If Moto, or google at this point, decided to unlock the phone... We would have Ice Cream sandwich 100% working (provided that they released the source code as well), and we would be eagerly looking forward to Jelly Bean. I often go on the Google+ Google account and harass them, I know I won't win but I am always hoping for a miracle.
As it stands now, there is a large chance that I will leave Verizon when my contract is up. Their handling of this phone as well as their pocketbooks has left a bad taste in my mouth. After 6/28/2012 (my birthday of all things), any phone being upgraded via contract will LOOSE their UNLIMITED data. You will have to purchase phones off contract to be able to keep your unlimited plan (It's only like $400 for a good android phone). Not only that, you will be charged a $30 fee just to upgrade.
So in conclusion:
Our phone is on life support. We are getting by with such developers as TeamHaters, Maverick, and Hashcode (who's still realasing AOKP updates for our phones), who are doing an excellent job keeping our phones working the best they can with what they have. Until there is a cure for our Bootloader issue... Our phone is stuck in intensive care, and Patch Adams is their to annoy the hell out of it.
Does anyone think googles new PDK will help our device? its supposed to allow low level api for easier porting of android to hardware. Think this could bring around any fixes? Ofcourse the bootloader will be locked but it mite make the making of kernels not take 6-8 months as hash said and help him out.
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This is the ONLY thing that is stopping any major developments on the Droid 3. If Moto, or google at this point, decided to unlock the phone... We would have Ice Cream sandwich 100% working (provided that they released the source code as well), and we would be eagerly looking forward to Jelly Bean.
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*sigh* I hate to be the one that has to come in and burst everyone's bubble every time someone makes this argument, but the problem is not the locked bootloader. If the bootloader was unlocked, we'd be in the same exact position. Hashcode has stated this several times. We'd still be without hardware codecs, we'd still be having Bluetooth issues, we'd still have all the same issues because they're all a matter of hardware limitations or lack of documentation on certain parts of the proprietary hardware.
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*sigh* I hate to be the one that has to come in and burst everyone's bubble every time someone makes this argument, but the problem is not the locked bootloader. If the bootloader was unlocked, we'd be in the same exact position. Hashcode has stated this several times. We'd still be without hardware codecs, we'd still be having Bluetooth issues, we'd still have all the same issues because they're all a matter of hardware limitations or lack of documentation on certain parts of the proprietary hardware.
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It's the combination between the bootloader and the source code
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It's the combination between the bootloader and the source code
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It's more of a "TI doesn't support hardware codecs for devices >1GB data". TI doesn't release source code for those binaries and isn't obliged to, so that's not really an argument that should be made. It's simply that our phone was cursed from release.
EDIT: And as of now I can no longer say "our phone" as I jumped ship to the Razr... goodbye, Droid 3 community, you will be missed...
When Ics gets released this year for droid it is getting better
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Nope, it's not, because ICS isn't going to be released to D3. This is it, for better or worse.
Rocking with my M3 and XDA app
AragornPE said:
Nope, it's not, because ICS isn't going to be released to D3. This is it, for better or worse.
Rocking with my M3 and XDA app
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who cares. I had ICS on a device before and its not that different besides a different interface .. after using ICS i prefer gingerbread's layout..
Juicy555 said:
who cares. I had ICS on a device before and its not that different besides a different interface .. after using ICS i prefer gingerbread's layout..
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ICS is majorly different from previous releases under the hood. It uses a different kernel; things have been made more efficient; the APIs have been updated to allow for more possibilities for app developers; certain parts of how the system overall operates have undergone drastic resigns; etc.. All of this came at the price of needing better hardware to incorporate new features, but I say it was well worth it and is a very large difference even without the interface changes.
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*sigh* I hate to be the one that has to come in and burst everyone's bubble every time someone makes this argument, but the problem is not the locked bootloader. If the bootloader was unlocked, we'd be in the same exact position. Hashcode has stated this several times. We'd still be without hardware codecs, we'd still be having Bluetooth issues, we'd still have all the same issues because they're all a matter of hardware limitations or lack of documentation on certain parts of the proprietary hardware.
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but anyway hashcode would be able to trial and error approach without deeming the device unusable (loading kernels, and modules and stuff)
it would certainly help to have an unlocked bootloader.
but without source of course it would be time consuming and without knowing when it would have success
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galaxy no way (too big and overrated), and HTCs are all the same: big ...
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This thing is a brick in my pocket compared to galaxy line and most htc phones, check out the quad core HTC One X w/beats audio or the galaxy note etc for "originality" but seems like all manufacturers are using a very similar forum factor. I agree the qwerty is nice to have but it doubles the size of the phone as well(unless maybe desire z) so you kind of have to choose.
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This thing is a brick in my pocket compared to galaxy line and most htc phones, check out the quad core HTC One X w/beats audio or the galaxy note etc for "originality" but seems like all manufacturers are using a very similar forum factor. I agree the qwerty is nice to have but it doubles the size of the phone as well(unless maybe desire z) so you kind of have to choose.
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I came from one of those phones and dont mind the difference. In fact the keyboard is one of the best features ive had on any of my smartphones. And a 4" is perfect for me, coming from a 4.5" screen.
I am about to order a new phone in next couple days and still thinking between Xperia and GS3. I know there is new generation of both coming soon, but I would upgrade anyway at the end of the year.
1. How is performance?
2. Signal quality?
3. Build quality?
4. Rom development?
Thanks for all your input!
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I am about to order a new phone in next couple days and still thinking between Xperia and GS3. I know there is new generation of both coming soon, but I would upgrade anyway at the end of the year.
1. How is performance?
2. Signal quality?
3. Build quality?
4. Rom development?
Thanks for all your input!
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There are several threads about this in the general section and the Q&A section.
However,
1) Very good, IMHO excellent
2) Brilliant
3) Brilliant
4) Getting better all the time
gregbradley said:
There are several threads about this in the general section and the Q&A section.
However,
1) Very good, IMHO excellent
2) Brilliant
3) Brilliant
4) Getting better all the time
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All of the above are true but if you want to get custom roms make sure that the bootloader can be unlocked!
My only complaint about my phone is that I can't
Click the thanks button if I helped!
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1) Great.
2) Very good for phone, average for wifi.
3) Great.
4) Good, hope it gets even better.
Galcactus said:
All of the above are true but if you want to get custom roms make sure that the bootloader can be unlocked!
My only complaint about my phone is that I can't
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Why is that? Are there some models where it can't be?
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Why is that? Are there some models where it can't be?
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Yes!
Sorry, I am new to this device, any way to recognize them, like serial or model ID?
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encho said:
Sorry, I am new to this device, any way to recognize them, like serial or model ID?
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Carrier-branded phones usually cannot be unlocked officially thru Sony's dev site. Get it from retail store and it's unlockable easily.
Tapatalked from my TX
1. How is performance?
Using wifi connection at home I do not find using the phone slow compared to a i5 desktop, so I would say great.
2. Signal quality?
Similar to my work BB Bold
3. Build quality?
Good, but I have not pressed the (power) button(s) lots as the phone is new, so usage is still low
4. Rom development?
I have nothing to compare it to, but the chaps here are all knowledgagable and Greg maintains a useful thread with links to many ROMs
I could get the s3 £100 over 2 years and maybe I would go for that (got this phone last week, and the s3 offer came on the w/e). But now I am happy putting that money towards the next upgrade.
Also this phone is a bit smaller, which is good.
Thanks to all, seems owners are quite happy with it which matters the most. I have seen some unfavorable reviews on the net, so that was a biggest issue for me. The only thing about this phone might be that the development seems a bit slow. I am used to switching between stock/cm/miui roms and first and last are not updated that often (we are still waiting for Sony's JB and MIUI is outdated at this stage), and generally the development thread seems not to be very active.
I switched from s3 to TX a few days ago. Sony's interface is fantastic and is 100x better than Samsung's touchwiz.
A minimal amount of bloatware and is very close to vanilla android IMO, anyone agree with me?
Development of cm in s3 with exynos are suffering many issues due to Samsung not providing sources to developers.
I don't like the jump from ics to jelly bean in s3, it seems like Samsung can't implement buttery smooth ui and just kept adding bloatware. Even galaxy nexus ui is faster than s3. Although multi window is nice.
Build quality is definitely better on Sony and TX feels like a premium while s3 got too much plastic.
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I switched from s3 to TX a few days ago. Sony's interface is fantastic and is 100x better than Samsung's touchwiz.
A minimal amount of bloatware and is very close to vanilla android IMO, anyone agree with me?
Development of cm in s3 with exynos are suffering many issues due to Samsung not providing sources to developers.
I don't like the jump from ics to jelly bean in s3, it seems like Samsung can't implement buttery smooth ui and just kept adding bloatware. Even galaxy nexus ui is faster than s3. Although multi window is nice.
Build quality is definitely better on Sony and TX feels like a premium while s3 got too much plastic.
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Thanks, that's useful info. Also I found about that bug that bricks some S3 devices, which is really ridiculous.
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Thanks, that's useful info. Also I found about that bug that bricks some S3 devices, which is really ridiculous.
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Yeah, also the exynos exploit which a simple apk can root which was discovered by xda poster. Basically, there's no support for exynos devices but US s3 is fine since it uses Qualcomm chip.
Slow update by Sony is worth it I'm sure. Not some fast update by Samsung and HTC but crippled os and can't implement jelly bean properly IMO. Ics is fine also in Xperia and satisfied with it much faster than touchwiz lol
You should properly get a T if you want more development but for sure TX will get cm10 also.
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Been looking into this phone and it seems like it has some pretty impressive specs for the price. Also comes with ICS with a possible Jelly Bean update on the way. Have any of you looked into buying one? It doesn't have the most impressive development right now but with ICS and a dual core processor you might not need a custom rom if you just use stock apps such as Nova launcher. I have heard it is also really fast. Thoughts?
BrandonCormier said:
Been looking into this phone and it seems like it has some pretty impressive specs for the price. Also comes with ICS with a possible Jelly Bean update on the way. Have any of you looked into buying one? It doesn't have the most impressive development right now but with ICS and a dual core processor you might not need a custom rom if you just use stock apps such as Nova launcher. I have heard it is also really fast. Thoughts?
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I would say no, you can get root but boot loader is locked and it looks like that it will never be unlocked, plus few/any kernel sources. Never trust they will bring jb. So wait for moto x phone I hear that's gonna be 200 and that much better of a deal. If you choose to get the l9 go in expecting to run the same software for the next 2 years. Not appetizing IMO
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I would say no, you can get root but boot loader is locked and it looks like that it will never be unlocked, plus few/any kernel sources. Never trust they will bring jb. So wait for moto x phone I hear that's gonna be 200 and that much better of a deal. If you choose to get the l9 go in expecting to run the same software for the next 2 years. Not appetizing IMO
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Yeah, I agree. X phone is supposed to similar to the Nexus 4 in terms of bang for buck and is also supposedly able to be customized to your liking similar to computers.
No development support on XDA means I won't buy the phone, period. I did some checking a month ago and there are no custom ROMs here or anything else. Guess I've been spoiled by the devs we have for this phone.
Yeah think I decided to wait until the X phone or until I find a cheap GS2 I can pick up or something.
I considered this one, but decided against it. The lack of custom development and having to cut down or activate a new SIM were the main reasons. I think my next one will be a Nexus phone of some type.
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ArtfulDodger said:
No development support on XDA means I won't buy the phone, period. I did some checking a month ago and there are no custom ROMs here or anything else. Guess I've been spoiled by the devs we have for this phone.
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If you look in the original android development forum they have a almost fully working cm10.1 and cm9 for the U.S. T-Mobile version. Only bug is that 1080p video recording doesn't work.
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If you look in the original android development forum they have a almost fully working cm10.1 and cm9 for the U.S. T-Mobile version. Only bug is that 1080p video recording doesn't work.
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Only CM10.1 (and it is a mostly functional, with active development) ROM. That CM9 post is a fake. Anyway, the point is, there is some development with that phone.
Also I brought an L9 a couple months back, before TMO goes contract-less as a PREPAID, which is cheaper than it is now. :highfive:
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I would say no, you can get root but boot loader is locked and it looks like that it will never be unlocked, plus few/any kernel sources. Never trust they will bring jb. So wait for moto x phone I hear that's gonna be 200 and that much better of a deal. If you choose to get the l9 go in expecting to run the same software for the next 2 years. Not appetizing IMO
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The boot load can already be unlocked：
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198114
Please do some basic research before posting anything here. If you don't like this phone, it's good to express your idea. But please base your argument on facts, not things you assume is true.
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Only CM10.1 (and it is a mostly functional, with active development) ROM. That CM9 post is a fake. Anyway, the point is, there is some development with that phone.
Also I brought an L9 a couple months back, before TMO goes contract-less as a PREPAID, which is cheaper than it is now. :highfive:
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The boot load can already be unlocked：
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198114
Please do some basic research before posting anything here. If you don't like this phone, it's good to express your idea. But please base your argument on facts, not things you assume is true.
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No need to be rude man. I did research because I too was planning to buy the phone. That information was apparently old. I will go waste my time just to find the thread for you. I am ecstatic it got unlocked but please relax. Have a good day
Edit: not the link but same message here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35532010
EDIT: this thread is partially why I said what I did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36034743
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No need to be rude man. I did research because I too was planning to buy the phone. That information was apparently old. I will go waste my time just to find the thread for you. I am ecstatic it got unlocked but please relax. Have a good day
Edit: not the link but same message here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35532010
EDIT: this thread is partially why I said what I did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36034743
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No problem. It is still difficult to unlock the bootloader for L9, as it is a lengthy process. But it is possible, and people have been (after unlock the bootloader) make CM10.1 working on that phone. So in conclusion, I think we can say L9 is not XDA friendly, but still can be made to use custom ROMs. And things looks good as more people are coming to this phone and find new ways to customize it.
I remember when this phone came out a year ago, there really wasnt much development for the phone. Mostly just modded stock roms thanks to jocala. When I bought this phone as a backup/mp3 player I was utterly surprised at how much it has grown. The exhibit has almost just as much roms as the gs3/N2 minus the 4.1 touchwiz roms the exhibit has it all...
Point is that who knows the fact that this phone is cheap it may pick up
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How does everyone say it may get an official jelly bean Rom? It started rolling out in some European countries few weeks ago.
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Look for $50 i'd go with the nexus 4... or wait until the nexus 5
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Look for $50 i'd go with the nexus 4... or wait until the nexus 5
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The nexus 4 is around $360 shipped with tax. The L9 is $189.99 shipped from Amazon. That's $170 difference.
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The nexus 4 is around $360 shipped with tax. The L9 is $189.99 shipped from Amazon. That's $170 difference.
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I just wish I could spend $360 on a phone and not miss it! Anyway as hard as it is to believe the Exhibit is running so good right now thanks to Exit_Only and Team Insomnia that a new phone won't be necessary for a while. Least for me. Ironic that it survived this long as I nearly got ready to smash it so many times in frustration over the last year. We've come a LONG way from the days of the Xquizit and CM9 ROMs.
Yeah i got my GSII an ain't looked bakc :thumbup::thumbup:
©HATAZ GON HATE BUT IM STILL A G THO™
http://www.phonedog.com/2013/04/22/t-mobile-s-lg-optimus-l9-set-to-receive-jelly-bean-update-today/
It just got the Jelly Bean update. Might have to consider it even more.
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http://www.phonedog.com/2013/04/22/t-mobile-s-lg-optimus-l9-set-to-receive-jelly-bean-update-today/
It just got the Jelly Bean update. Might have to consider it even more.
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I saw this earlier today and it looks inviting, but I don't want to spend the money..lol. I'll just wait it out until next summer and see what they have then. Until then, this phone is more than enough with these awesome devs.
i have one
i actually upgraded to the lg l9. I'm on here tonight working on my hunny's exhibit.
i like it. developement is coming along. a bit slow, but it's a new device. it's really quite fast after some tweaks. any questions, just PM me. i'll be happy to answer.
redheadplantguy said:
i actually upgraded to the lg l9. I'm on here tonight working on my hunny's exhibit.
i like it. developement is coming along. a bit slow, but it's a new device. it's really quite fast after some tweaks. any questions, just PM me. i'll be happy to answer.
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How's the camera and screen dpi? I like taking photos with my phone but have heard the camera isn't the best on the L9. I am considering either purchasing an L9, picking up a used Blaze 4G, or waiting till they clear inventory of the 8gb N4. The blaze is nice but I like the screen size of the L9.
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Hi guys
I'm currently a owner if an S3 and slightly peed off with the lack of sources, battery life on AOSP and etc.... So is it worth swapping my non dev friendly S3 for the dev friendly Xperia Z?
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Hi guys
I'm currently a owner if an S3 and slightly peed off with the lack of sources, battery life on AOSP and etc.... So is it worth swapping my non dev friendly S3 for the dev friendly Xperia Z?
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Just went from S3 LTE to an Xperia Z and couldn't be happier!
WHAT....... are you crazy. S3 has some of the best development. I don't know what ur talking bout. And if u like the xperia try jovy23's xtremeperia ROM. Its flawless and is as close to xperia as u can get on an S3. Also good on battery.
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Its the i9300 just to be clear... To be fair there is a lot if development but I've tried all the ROMs on the s3 stock and AOSP and stock is well terrible and AOSP isn't great for battery life and still has other issues due to Samsung being tight with their sources
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Cant speak for international S3 but from US S3 to XZ is not a big upgrade if any...
See this is the thing the US S3 is better (development wise) than the international.
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elspanish88 said:
See this is the thing the US S3 is better (development wise) than the international.
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if you looking for developement the XZ is not the place to go...there is like 5 stock rom, 1 kernel, and 5-6 AOSP, AOKP CM10.1 rom...
Get the Xperia Z!
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Upgraded from an S3 to the XZ, only because I managed to drop the S3 and cracked its front glass.
Otherwise, I'd still be happy to stay with the S3.
User experience wise, it's not much different with the XZ, the S3 was fast and quick as well. The increased ppi, you can tell if you look for it..but in reality, it doesn't affect your overall experience very much at all.
The Xperia Z is supposed to be getting stock Android and will be sold in the Google Play Store. That I presume will lead to better development of this phone. :good:
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-edition-sony-xperia-z-coming-soon
zac68 said:
The Xperia Z is supposed to be getting stock Android and will be sold in the Google Play Store. That I presume will lead to better development of this phone. :good:
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-edition-sony-xperia-z-coming-soon
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anyone pay for that will be a fool, i'm sure sony will charge ridiculous price for it...the Dev can copy the system and post it on here.
That's pretty much what I meant. Our phone will benefit from this...if it happens.
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if you looking for developement the XZ is not the place to go...there is like 5 stock rom, 1 kernel, and 5-6 AOSP, AOKP CM10.1 rom...
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As long as there is stable AOSP I am a happy chappy, and this is something that just isn't available for the Galaxy S3, neither I9300 nor I9305, and it literally never will be either. Mark my words. S4? Sure. S3? No. Don't buy an S3 if you are interested in ROM development... unless you are talking about ROM cooking I guess, but that isn't really "development".
Also there are like 2 usable custom kernels for I9300/I9305, neither of which run on AOSP.
While we're on the subject, you'll notice -if you look- that the actual developers that own an Exynos-based S3 all seriously hate it and have vowed not to buy any more pure-Samsung devices because of it. Speak to codeworkx on IRC about it if you're interested in hearing more about why the S3 sucks. Suffice to say that I am certainly not purchasing any more Samsung products without first seeing some sources for the device.
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As long as there is stable AOSP I am a happy chappy, and this is something that just isn't available for the Galaxy S3, neither I9300 nor I9305, and it literally never will be either. Mark my words. S4? Sure. S3? No. Don't buy an S3 if you are interested in ROM development... unless you are talking about ROM cooking I guess, but that isn't really "development".
Also there are like 2 usable custom kernels for I9300/I9305, neither of which run on AOSP.
While we're on the subject, you'll notice -if you look- that the actual developers that own an Exynos-based S3 all seriously hate it and have vowed not to buy any more pure-Samsung devices because of it. Speak to codeworkx on IRC about it if you're interested in hearing more about why the S3 sucks. Suffice to say that I am certainly not purchasing any more Samsung products without first seeing some sources for the device.
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Agree with you. Owner of a exynos s3 and the major problem is they lie to costumers telling that s3 will be upgraded and are delaying this not to damage s4 sales. S3 is a unfinished phone. Samsung never get this beast to fully working. Lags overall do bad memory management. Even s2 sometimes works better. And if you have the chanxe buy instead a n4.
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I'd love the N4 and I completely understand why the S3 sucks due to sources not being released properly, I've already spoke to codeworx and his answer was "every Sony runs AOSP better"
So I'm going for it!! Good bye S3 and hello XZ
Thanks for your input guys!
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elspanish88 said:
I'd love the N4 and I completely understand why the S3 sucks due to sources not being released properly, I've already spoke to codeworx and his answer was "every Sony runs AOSP better"
So I'm going for it!! Good bye S3 and hello XZ
Thanks for your input guys!
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No worries mate, and welcome to the family! :good:
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As long as there is stable AOSP I am a happy chappy, and this is something that just isn't available for the Galaxy S3, neither I9300 nor I9305, and it literally never will be either. Mark my words. S4? Sure. S3? No. Don't buy an S3 if you are interested in ROM development... unless you are talking about ROM cooking I guess, but that isn't really "development".
Also there are like 2 usable custom kernels for I9300/I9305, neither of which run on AOSP.
While we're on the subject, you'll notice -if you look- that the actual developers that own an Exynos-based S3 all seriously hate it and have vowed not to buy any more pure-Samsung devices because of it. Speak to codeworkx on IRC about it if you're interested in hearing more about why the S3 sucks. Suffice to say that I am certainly not purchasing any more Samsung products without first seeing some sources for the device.
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S3 international version may suck but U.S version is hard to beat...its what reviewer classify as an Iphone De-throner... and I was using AOKP on my S3...I still missed my S3. My main developer that I like are Faux and Task 650, any other Developer I am grateful for their work but I wont choose them over the two i have. Simply put they are the best at what they do and they are currently rocking Samsung and Nexus device.
THe only reason I am not using AOKP or CM10.1 on this device because A2DP sounds sucks (little bass or detail in sound, it sound like there is too much mid or treble)...I had to switch back to stock rom, not everything on CM10.1 here is fixed, but I imagine it would be soon, hopefully. again I would not advise anyone to buy this phone again, I gave it a try and I dint like it, never again. I remember using the Sony K850i and that was awesome quality stuff from Sony, I missed that phone too.
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S3 international version may suck but U.S version is hard to beat...its what reviewer classify as an Iphone De-throner... and I was using AOKP on my S3...I still missed my S3. My main developer that I like are Faux and Task 650, any other Developer I am grateful for their work but I wont choose them over the two i have. Simply put they are the best at what they do and they are currently rocking Samsung and Nexus device.
THe only reason I am not using AOKP or CM10.1 on this device because A2DP sounds sucks (little bass or detail in sound, it sound like there is too much mid or treble)...I had to switch back to stock rom, not everything on CM10.1 here is fixed, but I imagine it would be soon, hopefully. again I would not advise anyone to buy this phone again, I gave it a try and I dint like it, never again. I remember using the Sony K850i and that was awesome quality stuff from Sony, I missed that phone too.
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Well, we were specifically discussing the international version so I don't really see how a comparison to the US version (which is a completely different device) is useful.
Also K850i was a SonyEricsson device! (very important because Ericsson <3)
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S3 international version may suck but U.S version is hard to beat...its what reviewer classify as an Iphone De-throner... and I was using AOKP on my S3...I still missed my S3. My main developer that I like are Faux and Task 650, any other Developer I am grateful for their work but I wont choose them over the two i have. Simply put they are the best at what they do and they are currently rocking Samsung and Nexus device.
THe only reason I am not using AOKP or CM10.1 on this device because A2DP sounds sucks (little bass or detail in sound, it sound like there is too much mid or treble)...I had to switch back to stock rom, not everything on CM10.1 here is fixed, but I imagine it would be soon, hopefully. again I would not advise anyone to buy this phone again, I gave it a try and I dint like it, never again. I remember using the Sony K850i and that was awesome quality stuff from Sony, I missed that phone too.
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US galaxy s3 is dual core. It never get further oficial 4.2.2. And its slower then exynos.
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testadeferro said:
US galaxy s3 is dual core. It never get further oficial 4.2.2. And its slower then exynos.
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Krait dual-core, big difference. And yes, it is roughly on par with Exynos S3.
Are any restrictions for 5L in Razr-I ?
No restrictions on the hardware side. Go forward and do it.
A more serious problem is the missing manpower, to solve some problems because the source is not complete (cf. here).
I am always wondering why people think that it is self evident that someone will make perfect custom rom if the hardware allows it (kudos to them who do).
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pirast said:
No restrictions on the hardware side. Go forward and do it.
A more serious problem is the missing manpower, to solve some problems because the source is not complete (cf. here).
I am always wondering why people think that it is self evident that someone will make perfect custom rom if the hardware allows it (kudos to them who do).
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Thanks a lot for your answer! Until we are wondering we are living. The number of RAZR-I owner who are interesting in L5 is more then who are interesting in proper work of 4.4. beta (acc to threads list ) It is a magic our hardware allowance, isn't it?
If they are really keen on doing it, i'm sure they can. But at this point I just don't think it's worth it. Considering it is a 2 years old device. The more popular S3 didn't even get 4.4 and is stuck at 4.3, and that is around the same age as the RAZR i. They announced the 4.4.2 for RAZR i a long time back, and till now it is not out yet, which shows how little resources are being dedicated to bringing more updates to the RAZR i. I'm pretty sure 4.4.2 update when it does roll out will be the last update for the device.
I would be happy with a 4.4.2 with as little bugs as possible.
there's no hope, i remember in somehow that i read, this is the last upgrade to Ri, there's no more future plans to update this device...
but don't worry, maybe we can port 5L to Ri...
..."maybe"
The phone simply does not Cut it Performance wise. All those Animations...