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Hello fellow Xda'ers! I have recently Sold my htc hd2 and I have decided to buy an Galaxy S I9000!!
Do you think this is a smart trade since i LOVE ANDROID, is there another device you could recommend?
Even if so,
Does anyone here know how to, or IF I can use Standard STock Android 2.1 OR 2.2
doesnt matter, I just want it to be Android stock...
Thanks and Please
Sincerely yours Aldin!
yes there are beta version of froyo already JF3
Currently can't use stock (but there is no reason why someone couldn't port get a fully stock rom working). A lot of us like this phone, some people don't. Some people prefer the Desire.
Current main problems people are having.
1) GPS is sketchy, but it does appear Samsung is fixing it. It is a good chipset (and the solution may be that they release a new backplate with a better antenna, because there is a jack for an external antenna). Or, it may be improved drivers. As of JM5, I have quickly tested mine and it is great, but haven't tested it properly yet.
2) "Lag". Some people are whinging that applications take too long to load, and some tasks lag. We KNOW the processor is awesome though, and we KNOW that the NAND chip is fast, so it's probably a configuration/software issue. Perhaps they simply need better caching in place. Also be aware, many people here are blowing the lag WAYYY out of proportion. Some people here will tell you their applications are lagging 10 secs, and that the lag killed their cat.
In JM5 and JG5, I tested it, and I could only get 3 secs lag max after running many apps. I later managed to increase that to perhaps 4. But later firmwares now seem to be quite immune to serious lag problems.
When it comes down to it though, your only way of knowing for sure whether it's the right phone for you, is to test them both.
However, you must be honest with yourself too. Anything to do with graphics is probably better on the Galaxy S (and the firmware is much more buggy still). But the HTC has a better experience at the moment. The Galaxy S also has a better screen, and a PROPER multitouch atmel controller, whereas most mobiles (including the nexus one) still use a hacked synaptics/single touch panel which can support multitouch (but doesn't actually do it properly, and it's easy to generate false ).
I wouldn't trade my Samsung Galaxy S though, even if I was offered full asking price. It really comes down to your needs. The Samsung might be the better long term solution (especially since Samsung are REALLY pushing it, which suggests they are serious about turning it mainstream), but the desire might be the better short term one.
It all comes down to your needs though, and patience. If you need fully accurate GPS right now, or are too impatient to wait 1 sec for an app to open, get the HTC desire. But, if you want a proper multitouch controller, MUCH faster GPU and better screen, Samsung Galaxy. At the end of the day, they are just mobile phones, you just need to go for it! I spent months wasting hours looking up reviews every week, and at the end, I just did it on a whim (had never even seen it in real life). The fact is, in actual real world use, the HTC desire is possibly a bit better for some people if they need accurate GPS for fitness and such (but ours will probably improve too with a bit of software improvements, or a new back case with a better antenna). Both have 802.11n, so you'll find that you can set your router to 802.11n mode only.
It's just a phone though. If you need a fashion accessory, the HTC legend might appeal to you. But as mentioned, what you need is everything.
Also, some people may complain about the build quality of the galaxy S (it uses a plastic back which snaps on). I'd say the build quality is fine (materials which are used doesn't mean a damn if your smartphone gets wet). In fact, I actually think its a pro point, because we can swap the back with a rubberdised one and simply get a screen protector/bumper. But yeah, nothing to worry about. The glass seems strong too.
Good luck.
alldino said:
Hello fellow Xda'ers! I have recently Sold my htc hd2 and I have decided to buy an Galaxy S I9000!!
Do you think this is a smart trade since i LOVE ANDROID, is there another device you could recommend?
Even if so,
Does anyone here know how to, or IF I can use Standard STock Android 2.1 OR 2.2
doesnt matter, I just want it to be Android stock...
Thanks and Please
Sincerely yours Aldin!
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Thanks so much for the quick answer!!! I have decided to get the galaxy s i9000!! Thank you so much for spending so much time writing and what a good page of information you gave me!! THANKS!
I confess I don't know so much about this, but what do you get if you compile the Eclair source released by Samsung (I assume it needs to be combined with AOSP)? Would that not give stock 2.1, since none of the TouchWiz apps are open source?
Perhaps a few drivers would be missing as they're only available as binaries, but we do have the binaries.
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2) "Lag". Some people are whinging that applications take too long to load, and some tasks lag. We KNOW the processor is awesome though, and we KNOW that the NAND chip is fast, so it's probably a configuration/software issue. Perhaps they simply need better caching in place. Also be aware, many people here are blowing the lag WAYYY out of proportion. Some people here will tell you their applications are lagging 10 secs, and that the lag killed their cat.
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10 seconds of lagg is not exaggerated. I even experienced a longer lagg.
Let''s say the lagg is only 4 seconds. I is annoying as hell if you you experience that 4 second lagg every 15 seconds while using your phone.
Ofcourse this all depends on what and how many applications you installed and are running.
Guys.. this is really the wrong forum.. This is Android development not Questions & Answers!
Please post your threads in the right sections!
When you have lags you can just use same lag fix... I don't know why you all complaining on lags when lag fixes makes this phone really fast. Othervise if you don't want to lose warranty than if you have enouth money take desire
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Hi,
Im new (ish) to this forum and currently looking for an upgrade from my Hero. Tbh if I didnt have to renew my contract I would be quite happy to keep it for another 18 months. So, I've been reading lots on this big ongoing debates about Desire vs SGS vs DHD..
I thought the SGS was going to be a win for me even with the GPS, Wifi, etc etc issues, imo they are considered as minor issues since its only software related (you pro developers will find a way around it one way or other! )
...Until a found this thread:
'AMOLED burn in' http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892498
So I suppose my question is, knowing what you know now before you bought the phone. Would you SGS users still want to buy this instead of the other two mentioned above?
Is the SGS with the rate of led degradation that much better than the Desire or the DHD? Of course if you do change your phone often thats not an issue for you so please bare that in mind not everyone is as lucky as you .
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Hi,
Im new (ish) to this forum and currently looking for an upgrade from my Hero. Tbh if I didnt have to renew my contract I would be quite happy to keep it for another 18 months. So, I've been reading lots on this big ongoing debates about Desire vs SGS vs DHD..
I thought the SGS was going to be a win for me even with the GPS, Wifi, etc etc issues, imo they are considered as minor issues since its only software related (you pro developers will find a way around it one way or other! )
...Until a found this thread:
'AMOLED burn in' http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892498
So I suppose my question is, knowing what you know now before you bought the phone. Would you SGS users still want to buy this instead of the other two mentioned above?
Is the SGS with the rate of led degradation that much better than the Desire or the DHD? Of course if you do change your phone often thats not an issue for you so please bare that in mind not everyone is as lucky as you .
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Depends on the needs of the person buying the phone - if you use your GPS daily I'd recommend waiting for a better device or getting the DHD. Otherwise I'd go with the SGS.
With the plethora of Tegra 2 devices coming in the next few months I'd suggest waiting.
Unless the most important thing is gaming i would suggest the desire HD. Its all round faster, especially if your not into "hacking" your phone.
The screen of the sgs does in fact "burn in". I have some on my screen, If i knew about it before i would have tried using different orientations.
The galaxy s also has very little ram when compared to the desire hd, and it actually does make a big difference when it comes to performance in general.
The the thing galaxy s has going for it is that its sold a lot, and the community is pretty great, but if you want something that simply just works get the desire Hd or even better wait for a few months and get a dual-core.
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So I suppose my question is, knowing what you know now before you bought the phone. Would you SGS users still want to buy this instead of the other two mentioned above?
Is the SGS with the rate of led degradation that much better than the Desire or the DHD? Of course if you do change your phone often thats not an issue for you so please bare that in mind not everyone is as lucky as you .
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To the degradation. It should be same on all amoleds. Its not the phone. Its the display causing that. So what ever you do. You might be better of with an SLCD.
Desire and DHD I think some of them are Amoled too. So it will be there too.
Btw the burn in, I still didnt see a picture of it. And I am afraid of checking my phone. Seriously. Now I am "not" knowing if its burned in. Once I check I would have to bring it in for repairs and I HATE THAT! (And there is the fact I am not running official stock)
What I dont like is the pentile matrix from these Super Amoleds. The resolution is too weak and small fonts are fading. Not readable. Missing pixels. Dunno how to explain more. Its not smooth. This should be fixed by the next gen Super Amoled +
So even if the BURN IN might or might not (its just a matter of time ) the pentile matrix is there always and the display even if nice colors and contrast lacks on sharpness. Good for movies, games, bad for a business man with reader/calendar/news/agenda, things that burn in and need to be good readable
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So even if the BURN IN might or might not (its just a matter of time ) the pentile matrix is there always and the display even if nice colors and contrast lacks on sharpness. Good for movies, games, bad for a business man with reader/calendar/news/agenda, things that burn in and need to be good readable
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Couldn't agree more. The very visible matrix is the main issue I have with this screen.
If I knew then what I know now(about the phone. don't get me started on the provider...), I would still have bought the phone then. I'm quite happy with the phone, and I'm going to keep it(and use it ofcourse) for a "long" time. However, given that "4G" LTE phones aren't far off, and that dual cores aren't far off, and that Super Amoled+ isn't far off, and that.... If I was thinking of buying a new phone now, I would wait for a few months and get one that's more "future proof".
Regards
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If I was thinking of buying a new phone now, I would wait for a few months and get one that's more "future proof"
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There is no such thing... And never will be. Look there are new phones with Tegra 2 and they are announcing Tegra 3.
Doesn't matter when you buy it. You can either buy an expensive new one. Or an older good one for cheaper.
(or wait a month for the ones you want, then a half year for a good ROM + software and there we go with a new phone and it begins again)
The time from producing a new phone and technology isn't years anymore, its months (sometimes just weeks) . Waiting in this case is for hours/days. To wait more then 2 weeks is nonsense (and that only if you really want the phone)
oh,i dont agree it,i think very visible matrix is not a big problem,if try to change your font,im sure u will find it change a lot
obggbo said:
oh,i dont agree it,i think very visible matrix is not a big problem,if try to change your font,im sure u will find it change a lot
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oh, I dont agree.
I bought 4 fonts (well more but others refunded till I still could in the good old 24h days), tried out 20, downloaded custom 20. Changed DPI. Bold. Etc. Fact is. My hero with 120 DPI (normal 160) is better readable then the SGS on 240.
When I try to read mails I get from partners, even this forum. Etc. I still cant see it clearly. Even if readable its still "ugly" . I saw an LCD (xperia, desire and the hero) and I just can cry for a screen like that
I said its pretty for movies or games, there ofc you wont notice it.
Audio stream when recording a video even at 720p is crap. I tried shooting a few the other day of my floorstanding speakers playing FLAC stuff, obviously im not expecting mirrored performance but after examining the video file generated by the phone on my computer, the bit rate was around 62kbps @ 32KHz sampling rate.
Audio playback is ok, nothing special, no way near the quality of an iphone4 which my sibling enjoys daily.
And yes the crap resolution where the individual pixels are visible is a HUGE turn off! I was expecting it to be much more smooth, almost fluid like, as is the iph4 display. However, colour reproduction on the SGS is phenomenal, rich and vibrant.
Id say check both phones out in person, see for yourself. SGS has a strong community, 10 mill units sold. Then again id say wait until the newer handsets with tegra 2 are out. In saying that though i suppose you'll be forever waiting. Dont rush for a handset thats still in its infancy. Wait till you know what bugs and drawbacks it suffers from first. NO device is perfect, even in the 21st century!
Too much technology packed into one unit without fully understanding how individual processes function not to mention varied performance when coupled with other technologies.
ok,i agree that the super amoled readable is worse than lcd,but i think it not too bad to accept,and when reading pictures or movies,it is wonderful,in a word ,it is much better than lcd,you know after desire change it‘s screen,it become much cheaper than before,
and i think Accor black for apple is a good font
Not gonna deny it, it's a tough choice. I've had my SGS for about 4 months now, and I'm extremely tempted to get it swapped with a HTC Desire Z/G2. I don't trust Samsung when it comes to software anymore (Kies is terrible, updates are postponed and I HIGHLY doubt we'll ever see gingerbread) and the developer support for Samsung devices just isn't there. This, plus my GPS performance is still mediocre at best, it's completely failed about 4 or 5 times including once where the internal SD nearly died.
Granted, some of this could change with the Nexus S, but I doubt it'll change much. We may get better developer support but past that I don't see anything else happening. You also just might want to wait a little bit more and get a 4G LTE phone. Don't expect to be "future-proof" though, that's impossible.
So I am considering buying the Nook Color for use with an Android ROM ideally honeycomb and Instead of having to sort through tons of threads I think a single one would be nice for those also thinking about jumping in.
Most of these will be in reference to android phones and relating the experience since that's all I have to go off.
I have a SGS Captivate
Battery life compared to phone?
Usability? Speed, what is working what isn't? Does it feel like a step back when coming from a high end smart phone?
Video? Sound? etc
I know these questions have been answered somewhere, but having a single thread dedicated to answering questions for users looking to jump in with the Nook Color hacking would be nice, IMHO.
Thanks for all the help.
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Anyone who has done this how is it related to your android phone if you have one. I'm really interested in this but if it will feel like a step back from the phones i don't know if it's worth it?
I have a Droid X and the nook running CM7.
Right now the nook is very comparable to the X. With the beta rom it is still a little chopy but web browsing is so much better on the bigger and higher resolution screen. I don't boot up my computer as much for casual web browsing as much as I use to. It is nice being able to browse anywhere in my house(I'm writing this while cooking dinner) , or while watching TV.
Apps are still hit or miss on CM7 right now (Pandora doesn't work) and I'm not much of a gamer so I'll leave that to others.
Thanks so much I'm pretty excited to try this out. Hopefully it is as good as I think it can be. I know it won't be a xoom. But it should be sweet.
I have an HTC Incredible which should be similarly performing to the Captivate.
The DINC has the worst battery life of any Android phone I've seen so that's not maybe the best comparison, but I use my nook several hours a day and manage several days between charges. I think battery life is impressive.
Out of the box, the speed is noticeably slower, but not that bad. Running an OC'd 1100mhz kernel I get a much higher quadrant score (around 1150) than my stock DINC. The NC's improvement is significant.
I haven't installed a different ROM since I'm waiting for a daily driver stable honeycomb. That beings said, I have absolutely zeros problems using my NC daily as a tablet. I find it much easier than the smaller screen on my phone. Nor have I encountered anything I wanted to do that didn't work almost perfectly.
Video is a bit more pixelated than I'd like but I haven't spent a lot of time looking into it. Sound is pretty good, and the built in speaker is better than expected. I have heard of issues with the headphone jack.
All in all it's a great investment of $250. You could get a more fully featured tablet for the price of three NC's. I don't think the additional features are worth the cost difference, especially when you add in the amazing work done by the xda Devs.
jlt220 said:
So I am considering buying the Nook Color for use with an Android ROM ideally honeycomb...
Most of these will be in reference to android phones and relating the experience since that's all I have to go off.
I have a SGS Captivate.
Battery life compared to phone? Usability? Speed, what is working what isn't? Does it feel like a step back when coming from a high end smart phone? Video? Sound? etc
Thanks for all the help.
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I don't boot up my computer as much for casual web browsing as much as I use to.
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+1
Sent from a NookColor using the xda app
I used to spend a couple of hours every evening sitting at my desktop PC browsing the net and reading forums. In the couple of weeks since getting and rooting the NC, I think I've fired up my PC four times. Now I do my nightly surfing from the couch next to my wife while she watches TV and she feels much less neglected. ;-)
Ars Technica wrote a nice feature article today that should answer all your questions.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/guides/2011/02/howto-root-a-nook-color-to-transform-it-into-an-android-tablet.ars
Thanks for the responses this is helpful
I'm planing on using this as an ebook reader some just because the screen size would be nicer than my phone, but also like you said web, stuff like that. Keep the personal experiences coming they are very helpful for us who are hesitant to join in.
The nook is not perfect but its impossible to beat for the price. As other have said I fire up my computer far less than before. I have an evo and I would say that the NC feels as snappy and maybe even snappier. The thing I can tell you is that I was a for sure for the Xoom but the NC and all of its hacks help me to make the decision that I can wait. 100% happy with the Nook and I think most anyone else would be also.
jlt220 said:
So I am considering buying the Nook Color for use with an Android ROM ideally honeycomb and Instead of having to sort through tons of threads I think a single one would be nice for those also thinking about jumping in.
Most of these will be in reference to android phones and relating the experience since that's all I have to go off.
I have a SGS Captivate
Battery life compared to phone?
Usability? Speed, what is working what isn't? Does it feel like a step back when coming from a high end smart phone?
Video? Sound? etc
I know these questions have been answered somewhere, but having a single thread dedicated to answering questions for users looking to jump in with the Nook Color hacking would be nice, IMHO.
Thanks for all the help.
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I also have a captivate since release day (and got the pleasure of gettint a new one in December due to random shutdowns) and I can say the battery life on the nook is way better than any sgs rom even the stock eclair. I also don't browse on my phone anywhere near as much as I used to. The nook color doesn't have the most features, the fastest cpu, or even the best screen but for the price it blows everything else away hands down. Honestly its one of the few "toys" I've gotten in a while that I haven't had an ounce of buyers remorse with
Sent from my Nook Color.
I love my honeycomb. Its really fast and it has only minor issues. Mine is 100% reliable and i use it everyday and i only use my laptop for downloading roms and/or flashing sd cards. I have a rooted rom'd and oc'd droid 1 at 1300mhz and while i love my droid, i hardly use it anymore.
I really recommend it and emmc honeycomb is awesome. The lack of gps is the biggest thing for me, but o well... my rooted droid has one so its fine for me.
Sent from one of those missing Droids
I'm in the market for a new phone and I was on the brink of getting an Incredible S but I then stumbled across a lot of pages of people reporting reception problems which make the phone unusable. However, I'm always wary of pages dedicated to reporting problems as you get only problems reported and very few people reporting the good aspects.
So what I'd like to know is whether any Incredible S users out there have reception problems such as dropped calls, lost SMS, messages arriving days late etc? These are the things that I'm seeing people reporting but I don't know quite how prolific these issues really are.
Thanks in advance.
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I'm in the market for a new phone and I was on the brink of getting an Incredible S but I then stumbled across a lot of pages of people reporting reception problems which make the phone unusable. However, I'm always wary of pages dedicated to reporting problems as you get only problems reported and very few people reporting the good aspects.
So what I'd like to know is whether any Incredible S users out there have reception problems such as dropped calls, lost SMS, messages arriving days late etc? These are the things that I'm seeing people reporting but I don't know quite how prolific these issues really are.
Thanks in advance.
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this phone, for me, has been absolute perfection (no issues). not that the phone is perfect (almost is), but it really is a perfect match for my expectations/needs/wants AT THIS TIME (i'm sure my needs/wants will change in a few months). and you are going to hear a lot of different opinions because everybody has different needs/wants. also, everyone is on different carriers and setups. there are just too many variables.
again, imo, this phone suits me perfect at the moment and there are no issues for me.
I appreciate that there will be differing opinions about peoples expectations but hopefuly everyones expectations about how a phone should work as far as basic phone functionality shouldn't be too far apart - I imagine most people will want it to have reception when in known good reception areas without having to resort to bizarre hand contortions.
Things like camera and media playback are far more down to individual perception and as such I'm not overly interested in the majority of online reviews as they tend to deal mainly with the bells and whistles whereas I'm interested in the basic bread and butter functions which seem to be increasingly overlooked by phone reviewers.
i absolutely agree. a far as basic functions go, i haven't had any issues that i can think of. it just works. but again, that could be specific to my setup and carrier.
Best phone I've ever had by far..
mr nick said:
I'm in the market for a new phone and I was on the brink of getting an Incredible S but I then stumbled across a lot of pages of people reporting reception problems which make the phone unusable. However, I'm always wary of pages dedicated to reporting problems as you get only problems reported and very few people reporting the good aspects.
So what I'd like to know is whether any Incredible S users out there have reception problems such as dropped calls, lost SMS, messages arriving days late etc? These are the things that I'm seeing people reporting but I don't know quite how prolific these issues really are.
Thanks in advance.
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The IncS has exceeded my expectations. I bought an unlocked Canadian Bell Mobile model on eBay and I am using in on AT&T network here in US. I have not had any reception issues, dropped calls or experienced delays in SMS messages.
no issues, and so far the best fit phone for my needs. 4.0" display is just right for some1 to hold the phone and get the best of both worlds feel. and no reception issues or whatsoever. just the sms delay and call delay problem but that is rom problem. just make sure u get the froyo one then you're pretty much good to go
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no issues, and so far the best fit phone for my needs. 4.0" display is just right for some1 to hold the phone and get the best of both worlds feel.
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completely agree. had a 4.3" phone but felt just a bit too big/clumsy.
This phone is awesome, dont have any problems with missing calls or sms. Only negative aspect for me is 4.0 display, it`s a bit big for me, next phone would be 3.7 or 3.5.
madbw said:
This phone is awesome, dont have any problems with missing calls or sms. Only negative aspect for me is 4.0 display, it`s a bit big for me, next phone would be 3.7 or 3.5.
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Really? The display is my favorite part I think!
It's absolutely perfect
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Really? The display is my favorite part I think!
It's absolutely perfect
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i absolutely agree. the screen is the best part of the phone. it's beautiful and the size is perfect for me.
a great phone, also he dive into a bucket with water and survive it
Phones amazing. Never experienced an issue and never needed to run a process that my phone couldn't handle. However using the stock ROM I did experience lag and slowdown yet after installing a custom ROM I've never experienced lag.
Just as others have said (although another voice could only convince you more ), I have had no problems with this phone. Does everything I need it to do, and does it very well!
Officially recommended by System92
With cm7 I feel like the phone is waiting for me, and I'm the one lagging lol
Best Android phone I've had so far, with excellent battery life on moderate usage (more than 2 days), screen is absolutely amazing, no lag so far, the stock Rom 2.3 is a bit dinky but that's ok as well. Bluetooth is absolutely great, I can actually connect and make phone calls with my car kit, with the phone in my pocket. Audio quality is great as well, the camera video recording is not what I was expecting, but I believe it's software thing...
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With cm7 I feel like the phone is waiting for me, and I'm the one lagging lol
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I hopped in my roflcopter
OK, thanks for all the reassuring replies. I've just placed my order for the phone so it should be with me in a day or so. I'm guessing it will be newer stock though and that it won't be rootable at this point but as long as it is able to send and receive calls/SMS then I'm happy to wait and see if an unlock solution crops up.
The new stock isn't root-able?
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The new stock isn't root-able?
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I may have mis-read (I've read that many pages while deciding which phone to buy) but I was led to believe that the newer phones have a different version of hboot that isn't yet rootable.
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
darthbii said:
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
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1GB is more than enough in most phones, I've never had RAM management problems with this one.
However, my answer is a big NO.
Let me elaborate;
>Battery life
With proper greenifying, wakelock detecting, and no more than 2% per 12h of battery discharge, it has a decent battery life, but it seems the screen and the tegra 3 chip draw a lot of power from it. An extended battery does fix that though, but don't expect more than 3h of screentime on a normal usage day and 60-70% brightness, on a normal battery.
>Stock ROM
Looks great, feels great, kernel is easily updated (if you got the bootloader unlocked, flash another one), and then works great too. This phone, in my opinion is meant to be the LG Optimus G's younger brother. I've tried a lot of custom roms, but stock is the one that takes it away from me, after properly kdz flashed (without the bloat apps and stuff).
>Heating issues
10 mins of playing, well, pretty much anything that's 3D makes the phone really hot, no thermal throttling though, but don't expect this phone to last if you play an hour of gaming or more. Even Subway Surf kills the battery.
>Tegra 3 incompatibility/unoptimized apps
Most games are made with Adreno in mind, needless to say, Adreno is not better than the T3, just has more optimizations done for it. Also some apps aren't available via the Play Store on this phone, but that can vary depending on your region.
In my opinion, I'd always go with an SGS3, even with stock touch wiz and bloat, because
a) it gets proper software updates, unlike LG and all of their devices, not just the 4X HD.
b) better modding support/community
c) apparently heats up a lot less and lasts a lot more, that also means given its support there's bound to be more extended batteries, cases, stands, cradles, docks, and equipment for it.
The only thing the 4X HD has going for it is the price, I've paid 180e for it, and it was a huge step up from an even worse phone than yours (Samsung Galaxy Mini, s5570), but so far, I'm not a happy camper.
And the screen has a dead pixel on it, which irks me a lot.
Oh and apparently someone took the KDZ repository on that one site down. Dunno what the deal with that is too.
darthbii said:
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
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i would buy it, since it has good specs, and with custom roms you will have support for quite some time in future, i hope
1 GB of ram for me is enough, i don't play games on it, and after greenify hibernates apps, i got around 400 - 450 mb free, rom is latest vanir rom 4.3.1. dated 26.10.2013., and i am also using killjoy script
phone works really good, only little problem is with baseband_xmm_power wakelock, but devs are working on that and slow but surely this problem is getting reduced
camera is good for taking pictures, at least for me
i would only like that lock key is on the right side, current position is little awkward, but you get used to it
that's it from me
Thanks for the replies guys.
Hmm.... really now debating which to get 4X HD or S3 really a tough decision. I would want the 4X HD as I'm just a little bored of Samsung, but the S3 looks like will get better dev support. Its hard.
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Its showing its age, esp since its an lg device. Wait for nexus 5?
Flying_Bear said:
Its showing its age, esp since its an lg device. Wait for nexus 5?
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Would love to have one, but they're pretty expensive for me.
After some 'extensive' research, I have finally found the Xperia ZR. Maybe I might get it once the price drops (next year perhaps). Had earlier found the Optimus G to my liking, but I just dislike the glass back and front . Well, both have CM support which is a good thing for me
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Do not buy this phone. I repeat DO NOT!
Battery life sucks, and it gets hot. It is a fricking smart frying pan. Seriously you can cook an egg on it. And it lags oh boy it lags like hell.
A good phone shouldn't need this much optimization to work better. I tried every CM, kernel etc but either you get good battery life and ****ty gaming performance or you get good performance and horrible battery life (like 2-3 hours max).
Get Optimus G or S3 but don't get this.
darthbii said:
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
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If you can get it for a good price and are willing to root and customize it, it's probably the best bang for a buck you can get at the moment.
The IPS screen is simply gorgeous. It's even more pleasing to the eye than my HTC One LCD screen if you ask me my honest opinion. Yes, it tends to drain the battery heavily, but with the right configuration you can get over 3 and even 4 hours of screen time easily. Oh, and I can't seem to get any scratches on it. Impressive since I don't use a case or any kind of screen protection and carry it around in my pocket all day. Only downside: fingerprints!
I like it's design and build quality. Even though it's all plastic, it neither feels nor looks (too) cheap. More important: all the buttons are in the right place for me. The ridged back provides some extra grip and looks quite OK (from a distance ) and so does the fake metal finish on the sides. It has to be the best fake metal in the business because it's still intact after dropping on my bathroom floor twice.
My biggest issue with this phone (besides being ignored by LG) has to be the sound quality. The silly speaker on the back is nearly useless when the phone is laying down. Picking it up doesn't improve anything.
I can't really comment on this phone's gaming capabilities. I don't really use my phone for that, sorry.
The only alternative I would consider in your position would be the Nexus 4. You should be able to pick it up for a fair price once Google releases the Nexus 5.
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Tough call
darthbii said:
Thanks for the replies guys.
Hmm.... really now debating which to get 4X HD or S3 really a tough decision. I would want the 4X HD as I'm just a little bored of Samsung, but the S3 looks like will get better dev support. Its hard.
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The main reason I went for this device was due to price. If price wouldn't matter, then the Galaxy S3 is a better device IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my device, but since I am using custom ROM's to have JB 4.2.2 there are some things you need to accept if you use custom ROM's (LG has not had the decency to release a JB 4.2.2 ROM
1- Camera: 3rd party cameras using flash and auto focus have issues on custom ROM's not based on stock.
2- BT can be temperamental if you are on custom ROM's
3- The f****** wakelocks that just came out of nowhere on my device are driving me nuts and killing my battery
4- Gaming is a mixed bag depending on the game.
5- External storage can be problematic if for example you are on a custom ROM and try to sync 2000+ songs (17GB's) with Media Monkey.
6- Audio: This really pisses me off... I listen A LOT to music on my devices, and I use different types of good headphones like AKG 450's or some Senheissers PX-200's and the audio chipset on this thing is pathetic, read the review about it on PhonesArena. Even more frustrating is the fact that with the AKG 450's, every time I connect the headphones, the line gets a permanent noise that was not there before. I tested the headphones extensively to make sure they were no broken, and they are fine on all other type of devices except my P880.
On a positive side, it is smooth on most of the ROM's I tried, I like how it looks, it's quite sturdy, GPS works like a charm (after a few tweaks of course); the speaker is ok, the camera when it works is ok; the community is good; the specs are good; All the good ROM's and stuff is relatively recent since it took a while for the bootloader to unlocked and not that many devs were on board. It looks way better than the SGS3 which BTW also have a TON of issues, which is why I went for the P880. Overall, the issues I listed will be sorted by the great devs that have this device, but LG is not doing itself any favours by not releasing updates more often.
So, yes, I do love it, but I will definitely update in less than 2 years to another device. No more LG for me, thank you very much until they learn to support their devices or I would just get a Nexus device.
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frankie_p said:
The main reason I went for this device was due to price. If price wouldn't matter, then the Galaxy S3 is a better device IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my device, but since I am using custom ROM's to have JB 4.2.2 there are some things you need to accept if you use custom ROM's (LG has not had the decency to release a JB 4.2.2 ROM
1- Camera: 3rd party cameras using flash and auto focus have issues on custom ROM's not based on stock.
2- BT can be temperamental if you are on custom ROM's
3- The f****** wakelocks that just came out of nowhere on my device are driving me nuts and killing my battery
4- Gaming is a mixed bag depending on the game.
5- External storage can be problematic if for example you are on a custom ROM and try to sync 2000+ songs (17GB's) with Media Monkey.
6- Audio: This really pisses me off... I listen A LOT to music on my devices, and I use different types of good headphones like AKG 450's or some Senheissers PX-200's and the audio chipset on this thing is pathetic, read the review about it on PhonesArena. Even more frustrating is the fact that with the AKG 450's, every time I connect the headphones, the line gets a permanent noise that was not there before. I tested the headphones extensively to make sure they were no broken, and they are fine on all other type of devices except my P880.
On a positive side, it is smooth on most of the ROM's I tried, I like how it looks, it's quite sturdy, GPS works like a charm (after a few tweaks of course); the speaker is ok, the camera when it works is ok; the community is good; the specs are good; All the good ROM's and stuff is relatively recent since it took a while for the bootloader to unlocked and not that many devs were on board. It looks way better than the SGS3 which BTW also have a TON of issues, which is why I went for the P880. Overall, the issues I listed will be sorted by the great devs that have this device, but LG is not doing itself any favours by not releasing updates more often.
So, yes, I do love it, but I will definitely update in less than 2 years to another device. No more LG for me, thank you very much until they learn to support their devices or I would just get a Nexus device.
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If you don't mind me asking what GPS tweaks have you done?
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Sorry about the double post the xda app isn't playing well with my phone
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just hit the thanks button
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325033
I got this link from this discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886999
I suggest you read all of the posts, make a nandroid backup and test. The one I ended installing was the agps.patch.google.build.nossl.v3.1 as suggested in the tread, and it did improve the GPS performance of my device.
frankie_p said:
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325033
I got this link from this discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886999
I suggest you read all of the posts, make a nandroid backup and test. The one I ended installing was the agps.patch.google.build.nossl.v3.1 as suggested in the tread, and it did improve the GPS performance of my device.
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Oh I already did this a while back and now use topNTP from the play store to install it lol. I asked because even with thid I can only get about 4-6 satellites in about 15 mins
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frankie_p said:
The main reason I went for this device was due to price. If price wouldn't matter, then the Galaxy S3 is a better device IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my device, but since I am using custom ROM's to have JB 4.2.2 there are some things you need to accept if you use custom ROM's (LG has not had the decency to release a JB 4.2.2 ROM
1- Camera: 3rd party cameras using flash and auto focus have issues on custom ROM's not based on stock.
2- BT can be temperamental if you are on custom ROM's
3- The f****** wakelocks that just came out of nowhere on my device are driving me nuts and killing my battery
4- Gaming is a mixed bag depending on the game.
5- External storage can be problematic if for example you are on a custom ROM and try to sync 2000+ songs (17GB's) with Media Monkey.
6- Audio: This really pisses me off... I listen A LOT to music on my devices, and I use different types of good headphones like AKG 450's or some Senheissers PX-200's and the audio chipset on this thing is pathetic, read the review about it on PhonesArena. Even more frustrating is the fact that with the AKG 450's, every time I connect the headphones, the line gets a permanent noise that was not there before. I tested the headphones extensively to make sure they were no broken, and they are fine on all other type of devices except my P880.
On a positive side, it is smooth on most of the ROM's I tried, I like how it looks, it's quite sturdy, GPS works like a charm (after a few tweaks of course); the speaker is ok, the camera when it works is ok; the community is good; the specs are good; All the good ROM's and stuff is relatively recent since it took a while for the bootloader to unlocked and not that many devs were on board. It looks way better than the SGS3 which BTW also have a TON of issues, which is why I went for the P880. Overall, the issues I listed will be sorted by the great devs that have this device, but LG is not doing itself any favours by not releasing updates more often.
So, yes, I do love it, but I will definitely update in less than 2 years to another device. No more LG for me, thank you very much until they learn to support their devices or I would just get a Nexus device.
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lol this is disaster mine is just fine. the real disadvantage of this phone is only the low bitrate and framerate of the camera , but thats just how the lg made it. we cant change the hardware. besides that my phone works fine
So you are saying that:
- 3rd party cameras with autofocus and flash are working fine using a custom ROM as in CM based ROM? Which one please? so I can try it.
- No wakelocks at all? What kernel are you using and how do you use your phone? Gaming?, Internet (WIFI/3G) on all the time? FB/Tweeter/G+ on with auto updates all the time?
- Connecting to a car's BT to stream music works ALL the time?
- You can syncronize more than 10GB's in one go to the external microSD with no issues ALL the time?
You must be using either a stock ROM or one based on a stock ROM.
I also am thinking about buying this phone...
I own a Desire HD and i think that it would be a huge upgrade anyways.
The battery is not a problem i think:
1)U can root and install custom roms and it would be better as almost every phone
2)It's removable so you can always get a extended one
What i would like to ask you and have your opinion guys is it would be a bit wiser to get the L9 II instead of this one
N4R4Y4N said:
I also am thinking about buying this phone...
I own a Desire HD and i think that it would be a huge upgrade anyways.
The battery is not a problem i think:
1)U can root and install custom roms and it would be better as almost every phone
2)It's removable so you can always get a extended one
What i would like to ask you and have your opinion guys is it would be a bit wiser to get the L9 II instead of this one
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this forum is for optimux 4x so i can only say about that one. the camera is bad. the bitrate and fps are low. so have in mind that and choose. about other phones u can check them in their forum. the reason is... because we dont own them all xD