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That Awesome Moment When You First Turn On the Screen

Was blown away. Felt like just writing it. Whoa. What a screen. The colours, the clarity! Am disappointed that some app icons look meh, but that's the devs' problem really, hope they put some effort soon, like they did with Facebook Messenger.

I regularly deliver to lg head office and went in yesterday. I saw the g2 and nexus. Well impressed. If only the nexus has a 5.5 inch screen id buy it
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thedadio said:
I regularly deliver to lg head office and went in yesterday. I saw the g2 and nexus. Well impressed. If only the nexus has a 5.5 inch screen id buy it
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Oh I'd still go for it! just a .6.

This is kind of an understated spec on this phone, at least here. Some online reviews point out it's greatness. I for one think it is by far the nicest looking screen I've ever seen on a cell phone. It really makes amoled look bad. Really bad. Imo
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This is kind of an understated spec on this phone, at least here. Some online reviews point out it's greatness. I for one think it is by far the nicest looking screen I've ever seen on a cell phone. It really makes amoled look bad. Really bad. Imo
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Aside from the HTC one I completely agree.
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Screen is great provided you got one without dead pixels!
Also been reading about the yellow tint but I've either not got it on mine or don't notice it.

jackpf said:
Screen is great provided you got one without dead pixels!
Also been reading about the yellow tint but I've either not got it on mine or don't notice it.
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Dead pixels? Ugh, that must suck. Have you tried contacting Google?

The screen actually hurt my eyes initially lol. Trying to get used to it and no i don't wear glasses I got 20/15 vision. I guess I'm way too used to Amoled screens.

You ppl are over exaggerating the screen looks good but it is poorly calibrated. I cant wait for Paranoid Android to drop their rom with their display enhancements like they did with the nexus 4

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You ppl are over exaggerating the screen looks good but it is poorly calibrated. I cant wait for Paranoid Android to drop their rom with their display enhancements like they did with the nexus 4
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Screen is beautiful especially with Franco kernel and Cataclysm rom but like i said my eyes have to adjust because it hurts using the screen. Too many years of AMOLED.

At first I thought you were being ironic.
The screen is not that good, it lacks contrast and has very bad viewing angles.
If viewed from an angle you'll see the white from retroillumination, the more the angle, the more the white and the loss of contrast.
You should put this side by side with a G2. That is a beautiful screen.
By the way, if you look closely under direct sunlight you'll see a pattern of thin lines, I suppose it's the digitizer. Does anyone know why it is visible in this phone while it isn't on others

chk27 said:
By the way, if you look closely under direct sunlight you'll see a pattern of thin lines, I suppose it's the digitizer. Does anyone know why it is visible in this phone while it isn't on others
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I've actually seen that on a number of phones. The Optimus G comes to mind.

owendesira said:
Dead pixels? Ugh, that must suck. Have you tried contacting Google?
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Yeah I've got a replacement on the way. Annoying because I find my device perfect in every other way

chk27 said:
At first I thought you were being ironic.
The screen is not that good, it lacks contrast and has very bad viewing angles.
If viewed from an angle you'll see the white from retroillumination, the more the angle, the more the white and the loss of contrast.
You should put this side by side with a G2. That is a beautiful screen.
By the way, if you look closely under direct sunlight you'll see a pattern of thin lines, I suppose it's the digitizer. Does anyone know why it is visible in this phone while it isn't on others
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But, the G2 and N5 both have the same screen. Just the g2 is bigger.
G2: 5.2" IPS LCD 1920x1080 (424 ppi)
Nexus 5: 4.95" IPS LCD with Corning Gorilla Glass 3
1080×1920 (445 ppi)
I don't understand how there could be any difference in what are (apart from the diagonal size) exactly the same screens. :S
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pardoned said:
But, the G2 and N5 both have the same screen. Just the g2 is bigger.
G2: 5.2" IPS LCD 1920x1080 (424 ppi)
Nexus 5: 4.95" IPS LCD with Corning Gorilla Glass 3
1080×1920 (445 ppi)
I don't understand how there could be any difference in what are (apart from the diagonal size) exactly the same screens. :S
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Just because they have the same resolution and underlying technology (IPS LCD) doesn't mean that they're the same panel.

chrisnk204 said:
You ppl are over exaggerating the screen looks good but it is poorly calibrated. I cant wait for Paranoid Android to drop their rom with their display enhancements like they did with the nexus 4
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No over exaggeration here. And you're wrong. It's very accurately color calibrated. So much so that there are a couple reviews on it reiterating this and the fact it is the most accurately color calibrated screens they've ever reviewed . If you are talking about contrast, that's another can of worms.....
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chk27 said:
At first I thought you were being ironic.
The screen is not that good, it lacks contrast and has very bad viewing angles.
If viewed from an angle you'll see the white from retroillumination, the more the angle, the more the white and the loss of contrast.
You should put this side by side with a G2. That is a beautiful screen.
By the way, if you look closely under direct sunlight you'll see a pattern of thin lines, I suppose it's the digitizer. Does anyone know why it is visible in this phone while it isn't on others
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Oh I had those on my N4, The lines can appear on some phones more than on others of the same model. Can be kinda annoying, I agree.

jackpf said:
Yeah I've got a replacement on the way. Annoying because I find my device perfect in every other way
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Mhm, hope you get your replacement soon!

Lines or dots, all screens show it in sunlight and it is the digitizer. The screens are designed to be looked at straight on or to perform best for 99% of the time. If you want a screen that has over 450 cdm brightness, 4000:1 contrast ratio with .1 cdm black level, 180 degree viewing angles and any sort of energy consumption efficiency then you are welcome to pay $500+ just for the panel. Stop complaining!

[Q] Camera Focus

I do have the camera update installed. I have tried other camera apps including Camera Zoom and Shot Control.
Is anyone else having ridiculous problems with focusing--usually in macro situations? It's very frustrating and, frankly, embarrassing that the camera focuses so poorly. I often have to move the focus reticle around multiple times, reframe my shot, or just give up on trying to capture a focus in most macro situations (such as when I want to grab focus on an object real close and have the background blur out). I had no problems with this on my Gnex.
I just bought my Moto X over the Thanksgiving holiday and didn't know what the camera was like before the camera update, but I couldn't imagine it being worse than what I'm experiencing with it right now.
Here are two example photos of a gnome sitting a respectable 4-6" away from my camera. I found that if I moved the focus reticle onto the blue sleeve, it captured focus very well. However, if I tried to focus on the face or just brought the camera up to the gnome in a "real life situation", it wouldn't focus even after multiple movements of the focus reticle.

Then put the focus on the blue arm part. Problem solved.

natezire71 said:
Then put the focus on the blue arm part. Problem solved.
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Lol.
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I tested the camera outside of my room and it's fine. Thanks for the tip. Plus there is the new camera update.

mrsonsai said:
I tested the camera outside of my room and it's fine. Thanks for the tip. Plus there is the new camera update.
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What's the trick to get it to focus on close objects in other apps? I cannot get barcodes to scan in the Amazon app because they are out of focus when they are close enough to be big enough.

poorgrad said:
What's the trick to get it to focus on close objects in other apps? I cannot get barcodes to scan in the Amazon app because they are out of focus when they are close enough to be big enough.
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honestly I'm not sure. It just sort of seemed to work when I used it outside of my bedroom. Maybe try it in a different light?

Camera focus
I also tested the camera outside of my room and it's working fine.:good:

I've had a number of issues with focusing as well, especially in macro. You can try turning on the manual focus control and having it focus on your subject which seems to help in most cases. However I have had a number of times where the camera just won't focus at all unless I move it to another point and then back to the original photo. It hasn't happened a ton but I have had it happen enough to notice it.
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termleech said:
I've had a number of issues with focusing as well, especially in macro. You can try turning on the manual focus control and having it focus on your subject which seems to help in most cases. However I have had a number of times where the camera just won't focus at all unless I move it to another point and then back to the original photo. It hasn't happened a ton but I have had it happen enough to notice it.
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I have this same problem as well. I have a republic wireless one that didnt get the kit kat update yet, and i'm dying for the big camera update in the hopes that it will save me.
the only good thing about an iphone is the flawless camera. otherwise, my moto x just plain rules.

Decided to do a micro-focus comparison vs my S2, here's a sample of both focusing as close as they can on my computer monitor. The best image from each was selected:
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I'll let you guess which is which.
I know it's not apples-to-apples (this isn't the same type of problem) but the camera definitely has some serious issues.

mrsonsai said:
I do have the camera update installed. I have tried other camera apps including Camera Zoom and Shot Control.
Is anyone else having ridiculous problems with focusing--usually in macro situations? It's very frustrating and, frankly, embarrassing that the camera focuses so poorly. I often have to move the focus reticle around multiple times, reframe my shot, or just give up on trying to capture a focus in most macro situations (such as when I want to grab focus on an object real close and have the background blur out). I had no problems with this on my Gnex.
I just bought my Moto X over the Thanksgiving holiday and didn't know what the camera was like before the camera update, but I couldn't imagine it being worse than what I'm experiencing with it right now.
Here are two example photos of a gnome sitting a respectable 4-6" away from my camera. I found that if I moved the focus reticle onto the blue sleeve, it captured focus very well. However, if I tried to focus on the face or just brought the camera up to the gnome in a "real life situation", it wouldn't focus even after multiple movements of the focus reticle.
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Download the app "Camera JB+" from the Play Store and all your problems are solved. I think it's 1.99.
Speaking of the horrible camera on this phone does anyone get bad flash glares in their photos while using flash?? I swear this phone would be perfect if it at least had a gs3 quality camera.

Auto focus uses contrast measurement between lines of the sample area. If the area you're trying to focus on has little contrast, especially in low light, it will have a difficult time trying to focus.

Eckyx said:
Decided to do a micro-focus comparison vs my S2, here's a sample of both focusing as close as they can on my computer monitor. The best image from each was selected:
I'll let you guess which is which.
I know it's not apples-to-apples (this isn't the same type of problem) but the camera definitely has some serious issues.
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I have an s2...And now a Moto x...not sure about you...But my x's camera blows my s2 away really.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....

kj2112 said:
I have an s2...And now a Moto x...not sure about you...But my x's camera blows my s2 away really.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
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Check out this thread I posted a bit ago, did a comparison between the cameras side-by-side:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550110

Eckyx said:
Check out this thread I posted a bit ago, did a comparison between the cameras side-by-side:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550110
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That's your phones....And your picture taking techniques.....right?
I'm using fv-5, not stock app....And again...my Moto x blows my s2 away. My wife agrees.
Does it compare to my cheap 150 dollar Sony camera's pictures....nope. And no phone will.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
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Check the pictures thread to see what people have taken. Probably people who have spent time working on their technique with this phone....But some great pics in there.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....

kj2112 said:
I have an s2...And now a Moto x...not sure about you...But my x's camera blows my s2 away really.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
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kj2112 said:
That's your phones....And your picture taking techniques.....right?
I'm using fv-5, not stock app....And again...my Moto x blows my s2 away. My wife agrees.
Does it compare to my cheap 150 dollar Sony camera's pictures....nope. And no phone will.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
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Check the pictures thread to see what people have taken. Probably people who have spent time working on their technique with this phone....But some great pics in there.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
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Yes, I'm using the latest update to the stock camera on the Moto X, and the stock camera app on the S2, both using stock settings. I retook pictures several times to prevent blurry shots. The Moto is definitely better indoors but outdoor performance is equal at best to the older module used in the S2. I'd be happy to purchase FV-5 and do a comparison using that if you'd like - what kind of technique am I supposed to have with a cellphone camera that has basically no controls or options? It's not like a DSLR - pretty much as point-and-shoot as you can get.

Eckyx said:
Yes, I'm using the latest update to the stock camera on the Moto X, and the stock camera app on the S2, both using stock settings. I retook pictures several times to prevent blurry shots. The Moto is definitely better indoors but outdoor performance is equal at best to the older module used in the S2. I'd be happy to purchase FV-5 and do a comparison using that if you'd like - what kind of technique am I supposed to have with a cellphone camera that has basically no controls or options? It's not like a DSLR - pretty much as point-and-shoot as you can get.
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Fv-5 let's you control everything...or just point and shoot too. Yes....it takes time to learn what to change and when....But it can do much more than stock. Someone who is into photography on a real camera....not a phone....would probably learn quick how to get the most out of our crappy phone cameras with fv-5.
Or a similar app....that's just the one I read about and bought.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....

[Q] Moto X camera question

Hi All,
I've got my Moto X and I really love it. I previously had a Nexus 5 which I liked, but doesn't have much character compared to the X. The only issue I've got is camera quality. It seems insanely poor (and the N5 wasn't exactly great). One thing I've been doing though is using Google's stock camera app rather than Moto's. Is that a mistake? Is there software optimisation in the Moto camera app which gives better results?
Any other tips and getting the best pics? It's not even just low light. I took a pic on a bright day and the picture was totally washed out (my friend took the same pic on his iphone and it was just another league). All pics just seem to have bad light metering and are very noisy. I've never had this in a phone camera before...
Thanks in advance...

tifosi256 said:
Hi All,
I've got my Moto X and I really love it. I previously had a Nexus 5 which I liked, but doesn't have much character compared to the X. The only issue I've got is camera quality. It seems insanely poor (and the N5 wasn't exactly great). One thing I've been doing though is using Google's stock camera app rather than Moto's. Is that a mistake? Is there software optimisation in the Moto camera app which gives better results?
Any other tips and getting the best pics? It's not even just low light. I took a pic on a bright day and the picture was totally washed out (my friend took the same pic on his iphone and it was just another league). All pics just seem to have bad light metering and are very noisy. I've never had this in a phone camera before...
Thanks in advance...
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I don't have any answers but I'm hoping there are some fixes released soon, either by motonovo themselves or some industrious xda mods

I don't think any software mods are going to improve the camera much on our Moto X 2014's. Seems Motorola used an oldish camera sensor in this device. Some people are even saying this camera shouldn't have been used in a 2014 flagship. So we have 2 choices - Put up with it or get a phone with a better camera.

Diesel779 said:
I don't think any software mods are going to improve the camera much on our Moto X 2014's. Seems Motorola used an oldish camera sensor in this device. Some people are even saying this camera shouldn't have been used in a 2014 flagship. So we have 2 choices - Put up with it or get a phone with a better camera.
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Wow, that's really depressing to hear :crying:
I knew before buying that it wasn't the best camera, but it seems to be the worst I've had since the nexus 4. Seems Motorola like to clear inventory of old stock (see the moto 360 hardware)

tifosi256 said:
Wow, that's really depressing to hear :crying:
I knew before buying that it wasn't the best camera, but it seems to be the worst I've had since the nexus 4. Seems Motorola like to clear inventory of old stock (see the moto 360 hardware)
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Yeah, I expected more from a 13mp camera. I'm considering switching to a Nexus 6, but I really like my Moto X apart from the camera.

Diesel779 said:
I don't think any software mods are going to improve the camera much on our Moto X 2014's. Seems Motorola used an oldish camera sensor in this device. Some people are even saying this camera shouldn't have been used in a 2014 flagship. So we have 2 choices - Put up with it or get a phone with a better camera.
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It's the same sensor as the g3..

robstunner said:
It's the same sensor as the g3..
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If that's the case, it must be the lens or software. The G3 has a very nice camera.

robstunner said:
It's the same sensor as the g3..
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The Moto X 2014 is the same sensor as the G3? Are you sure? But, even if that is true, the G3 has OIS and laser auto focus and other improvements. But I'm pretty sure the G3 uses a slightly newer sensor. The pics on my G3 weren't bad, not great but ok. However, they were a LOT better than on my Moto X 2014, this camera is a joke.
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If that's the case, it must be the lens or software. The G3 has a very nice camera.
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I'm almost certain they use different sensors, I could be wrong. The G3 has OIS and laser auto focus. The camera on the G3 is significantly better than the Moto X 2014, I've owned both. There seems to be a lot of people complaining about the camera o the Moto X, but no one doing the same for the G3. If they used the same cameras I wouldn't expect that to be the case.
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It's the same sensor as the g3..
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Have you got any links that state the Moto X 2014 uses the same camera as the G3? The G3 could just be better because of it's extra hardware i.e OIS and laser autofocus, but I'd still be interested in seeing a link stating these devices have the exact same camera.

Right in the middle there.
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Yes this camera blows. I had a S5 then a Note Edge. I love this phone way more than either of those but omg this thing has a crap camera

Both camera's (g3/moto x) have the same Sony IMX135, only the g2/3 (both the same sensor) have OIS and apparently better software. Compared to the lg g2 the moto x sucks donkey balls.
It does help to use other camera apps.

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Right in the middle there.
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Just goes to show how much difference OIS and laser auto focus make, because the camera on the Moto X 2014 performs nowhere near as good as the G3. I'm just going to stick with this phone now until the HTC M9 is released. I loved my M8 but the camera and how tall and skinny it was led me to sell it. I'll definitely be switching to the M9 though if HTC use a better camera.

Diesel779 said:
Just goes to show how much difference OIS and laser auto focus make, because the camera on the Moto X 2014 performs nowhere near as good as the G3. I'm just going to stick with this phone now until the HTC M9 is released. I loved my M8 but the camera and how tall and skinny it was led me to sell it. I'll definitely be switching to the M9 though if HTC use a better camera.
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more like software and optics, but ya i agree. I think the m8 camera holds it's own against the moto x, especially in low light.

robstunner said:
more like software and optics, but ya i agree. I think the m8 camera holds it's own against the moto x, especially in low light.
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I'm just looking at an M8, I think I'd be stupid to get another M8 now though with the M9 around the corner. OIS has to help with the G3 camera and that laser auto focus is good. My G3 just kept overheating though, and after a google search it seemed to be a pretty common problem so I got rid of it. I was considering the Nexus 6, but like I say - I think I'll just stick with the Moto X 2014 until the M9 is released.
Edit to add: With the huge difference in picture quality from the Moto X 2014 and the G3 its more than just software that's creating the difference.

Taken inside an olive garden.... I feel like my note 2 was twice as good.

Yeah, that's pretty typical of a Moto X shot indoors
Well, someone has suggested the camera app might make a difference so I'll use the moto one for a bit and see. The focussing seems OK, so the lack of laser focussing isn't doing this. It has to be optics or software.
When looking at this phone, I kept hearing how Moto had listened to users and improved since the first X, so I assumed that would mean it would be OK. But they either lied, or the old X had a horrifically bad camera

tifosi256 said:
Hi All,
I've got my Moto X and I really love it. I previously had a Nexus 5 which I liked, but doesn't have much character compared to the X. The only issue I've got is camera quality. It seems insanely poor (and the N5 wasn't exactly great). One thing I've been doing though is using Google's stock camera app rather than Moto's. Is that a mistake? Is there software optimisation in the Moto camera app which gives better results?
Any other tips and getting the best pics? It's not even just low light. I took a pic on a bright day and the picture was totally washed out (my friend took the same pic on his iphone and it was just another league). All pics just seem to have bad light metering and are very noisy. I've never had this in a phone camera before...
Thanks in advance...
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What are you on about? I find the Moto x rear camera quite decent. The front camera is pathetic in low light conditions, can barely refresh the view finder once a second. But the rear camera is quite good to be honest. Here's a couple of samples I took with it.

manrock said:
What are you on about? I find the Moto x rear camera quite decent. The front camera is pathetic in low light conditions, can barely refresh the view finder once a second. But the rear camera is quite good to be honest. Here's a couple of samples I took with it.
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These two shots were taken within seconds of each other. This is a horrible camera. I love this phone, but this honestly might be a deal breaker for me. Kinda hurts to say that because I fell in love with the device immediately. My only option is a Oneplus and I really don’t want to deal with their dumb ordering process.

TigerDNA said:
These two shots were taken within seconds of each other. This is a horrible camera. I love this phone, but this honestly might be a deal breaker for me. Kinda hurts to say that because I fell in love with the device immediately. My only option is a Oneplus and I really don’t want to deal with their dumb ordering process.
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Maybe installing this will help.. This is a modded version of the stock camera app called Camera+. Loaded with advanced settings. Slide open the settings and click the ladybug icon to access them.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wxa1xu00onp4mwv/MotCamera+_3.3.20.8.apk
Happy tinkering

manrock said:
Maybe installing this will help.. This is a modded version of the stock camera app called Camera+. Loaded with advanced settings. Slide open the settings and click the ladybug icon to access them.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wxa1xu00onp4mwv/MotCamera+_3.3.20.8.apk
Happy tinkering
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Well, you've piqued my interest. Is this the thread you grabbed the link from?

very poor photos quality after a year?

I wasn't using camera much so I'm not even sure when did it start but now, after a year of use, the photos quality is very poor.
That's what I get on a clear sunny day -
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The phone never was unlocked and always had a latest standard software.
Does anyone else get that and what can be done?
Thanks

Is the camera lens visibly blurry ?

madd0g said:
Is the camera lens visibly blurry ?
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No, it looks clean.

regcoll said:
No, it looks clean.
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did you zoom out in the 2nd photo? try also not to take pictures in front of the sun or a bright light, it can affect the picture quality as the light will fed up the sensor too much, which will result the 1st photo. you can adjust in by soft press the camera button. you'll notice that it will focus first and enhancing the view, then hard press it so it will take the picture. Try to post also some other samples from different views and angles. it's odd since Z3c has a good camera quality, you just have to utilized it

this is how the pictures always looked try to use manual mode you won't see big different bet u can make it a little bit better

Samples
Hi Guys!
I just want to share with you my photos captured using stock and a slim ROM

yoorie016 said:
try also not to take pictures in front of the sun or a bright light, it can affect the picture quality as the light will fed up the sensor too much, which will result the 1st photo. you can adjust in by soft press the camera button.
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Are you suggesting it's normal? I don't think so... I expect better from this phone.
The problem is it's hard to measure the quality but it just doesn't look right.
Attached 2 photos I took just now, one with main camera and another with front camera.
The main camera result looks all fogy...

regcoll said:
Are you suggesting it's normal? I don't think so... I expect better from this phone.
The problem is it's hard to measure the quality but it just doesn't look right.
Attached 2 photos I took just now, one with main camera and another with front camera.
The main camera result looks all fogy...
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Hi Bro,
What normal is when you point your camera directly on a bright light, which the sensor will fed up too much light and it will not handle too much light. That was happen on your 1st photo from the post.
But after seeing these pictures, i think you have a problem with your lens which is not so normal. Does this happens also when recording a video using the main camera? Here's mine that i shot just earlier using the main and back respectively.

yoorie016 said:
But after seeing these pictures, i think you have a problem with your lens which is not so normal.
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Yes, looks like that's the problem.
yoorie016 said:
What normal is when you point your camera directly on a bright light, which the sensor will fed up too much light and it will not handle too much light. That was happen on your 1st photo from the post.
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Yes, but in my case it's happens all the time, maybe the dust on the lens interferes with the light.
Anyway, I'll try to get Sony to fix it

regcoll said:
Yes, looks like that's the problem.
Yes, but in my case it's happens all the time, maybe the dust on the lens interferes with the light.
Anyway, I'll try to get Sony to fix it
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Do you have any phone case or plastic installed on your phone?

yoorie016 said:
Do you have any phone case or plastic installed on your phone?
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no
I have a feeling it's just dust...
looking at my photos for a year, it seems to be happening slowly
so much for dust resistance
but still - it's hard to measure so hard to say when and how it happened

That looks more like moisture then dust to me.
Have you ever had the phone opened? (replaced screen or back glass)
I wonder if opening the side ports, putting the phone in a sealed container with some silica gel packs, in a warm place might help?

My camera is so horrible too, only Google Camera make half-decent photos.
Let's hope official Marshmallow will do miracles, likely not.

I have the exact same problem. After some time the photos just look foggy. I hope this isn't a case of continuous dust piling up under the back glass and affecting the lense...

Hi, today I made some pictures under low light conditions with 4 cameras:
Money taken from the top of a glass, light and distance conditions equal, camera fully auto.
Iphone 5, Iphone 6, Z3C locked (lollipop), Z3C unlocked (marshmallow).
My own unlocked Z3C is the loser.

you have to relock the bl and restore your backup TA to get good images again in low light. or if you want to stay with unlocked BL, you have to use the drm fix

Hi @regcoll !!
At the end i was able to found out someone else with my exact same problem... have a Z3 Compact since May last year and it made outstanding pics a the begining... however it got blurrier and blurrier. Now even old Nexus4 is closer to it.
regcoll said:
Anyway, I'll try to get Sony to fix it
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Did you got some feedback from them? Here in Spain the costs sending, repairing and returning the phone to a Sony dealer might costs as much as new Z3C

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I've contacted Sony about it and they agreed to repair it under warranty (even that the phone is 15 months old).
They've replaced the camera part.
The new camera feels a bit different so they either changed the camera for Z3 at some point or installed the camera from a newer phone.
It's working well now, the only downside I was left 3 weeks without a phone which was annoying as my spare one is too old.

Hi,
Was looking around for any answers on the same issue. So is mine, very hard to focus now and images are very "HAZY". I checked my back camera lens and noticed odd scratch marks. Apparently, its the lens not being of gorilla glass, or a film that's getting scratched off - I'm not sure. Still in the process of figuring it out.
regcoll said:
I've contacted Sony about it and they agreed to repair it under warranty (even that the phone is 15 months old).
They've replaced the camera part.
The new camera feels a bit different so they either changed the camera for Z3 at some point or installed the camera from a newer phone.
It's working well now, the only downside I was left 3 weeks without a phone which was annoying as my spare one is too old.
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Hello to all. I have the same problem with z3 compact.Photos are not focused well, foggy when maximize photo is more blurred.If take a pic of a book from 1 meter away, in the zooming can not read small letters. This problem started since Jan 17, as i take backup of all my photos in google. I gave the phone to a Sony certified center for the problem.They replaced everything familiar with the lens, also the display.The problem still occurs!!!!!

FiLMiC Pro

Has anyone tried using FiLMiC Pro with the Huawei P30 Pro to adjust for the oversaturation and lack of color accuracy on the main camera during video? Mine is still on order but I'm hoping the issue of red tint can be resolved with a 3rd party app.
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Good question, I need to know that. And I want to know did Filmic Pro enable "raw videos" recording? Because in Mate 20 Pro is not possible.
I really need to know this. Thx a lot

Ran the compatibility test on mine:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/k8uss1hBRbJRDy1s7

You can just use the Leica 'smooth' color mode option on P30 Pro to get cinematic effects video & less saturation.
Less hassle & save time to edit later. At least for me, as i dont have the time to edit it lol.

Coincidentally, confirms my thoughts that the sony sensor in the P30 Pro isn't capturing at a full 960FPS for super slow, only at 240 and then interpolated to 960

NJ72 said:
Ran the compatibility test on mine:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/k8uss1hBRbJRDy1s7
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So this means P30 Pro can record in RAW?
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NJ72 said:
Coincidentally, confirms my thoughts that the sony sensor in the P30 Pro isn't capturing at a full 960FPS for super slow, only at 240 and then interpolated to 960
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Im very sad because they can make very good slow motion. Even 1080p with 960fps.

isko01 said:
So this means P30 Pro can record in RAW? .
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I have no idea, I've not got the Filmic Pro app, just installed the compatibility checker for people's info if they didn't already have the phone.

I have filmic Pro. Where do I specifically check if it's raw. It allows Hevc and log v2.
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compunerd3 said:
I have filmic Pro. Where do I specifically check if it's raw. It allows Hevc and log v2.
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I don't know either because I'm new to the app. Still waiting for my P30. How is the issue of oversaturation on your device? Can you try FiLMiC and see how the video looks if you take the saturation down about 25%?
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compunerd3 said:
I have filmic Pro. Where do I specifically check if it's raw. It allows Hevc and log v2.
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Did you check if it allows for log v2? Can you select the log curve and the image really changes in its appearance? I cannot do that on my device and I was reading rumors that the Kirin 980 somehow blocks the Log recording. Seems there is a similar problem in the Mate 20 Pro.
Maybe you could attach a screenshot from flat vs log v2 in your app?
Thanks already for the reply!

IliasK88S said:
Did you check if it allows for log v2? Can you select the log curve and the image really changes in its appearance? I cannot do that on my device and I was reading rumors that the Kirin 980 somehow blocks the Log recording. Seems there is a similar problem in the Mate 20 Pro.
Maybe you could attach a screenshot from flat vs log v2 in your app?
Thanks already for the reply!
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I can choose the Log V2 option but I can't see any difference in any of those curves no matter what I'm aiming at outside or inside. Seems it isn't working
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EricMartinSoCal said:
I don't know either because I'm new to the app. Still waiting for my P30. How is the issue of oversaturation on your device? Can you try FiLMiC and see how the video looks if you take the saturation down about 25%?
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1: Huawei video with no change to settings (not pro mode)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/V3S8CzXRbgYHuu4k9
2: Filmic pro with 25% less saturation.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KNN5KJpQhQy8ViDj9
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compunerd3 said:
1: Huawei video with no change to settings (not pro mode)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/V3S8CzXRbgYHuu4k9
2: Filmic pro with 25% less saturation.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KNN5KJpQhQy8ViDj9
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Okay. I think this is going to be the solution! Thank you. The main problem is red so the best way to see is people's skin tones, or something that is red. However it also affects all shades of red, which includes brown, and I can see a significant change in the bush in the video to a more natural shade. I have been dying to find someone using FiLMiC. This looks like an important improvement.
Once I have the phone next Wednesday, I will do some extensive testing and try to post the most color accurate settings. Thanks!
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EricMartinSoCal said:
Okay. I think this is going to be the solution! Thank you. The main problem is red so the best way to see is people's skin tones, or something that is red. However it also affects all shades of red, which includes brown, and I can see a significant change in the bush in the video to a more natural shade. I have been dying to find someone using FiLMiC. This looks like an important improvement.
Once I have the phone next Wednesday, I will do some extensive testing and try to post the most color accurate settings. Thanks!
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My pleasure, I don't know a lot about filmic so if there's more you want me to take I can.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nYZTBoGDeDi8Sug26
This is also filmic but not with any saturation reduced
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compunerd3 said:
My pleasure, I don't know a lot about filmic so if there's more you want me to take I can.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nYZTBoGDeDi8Sug26
This is also filmic but not with any saturation reduced
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You'll see in the screen shots in my link (taken from a review video) that the stock color palate is completely out of whack. Look at the biker's face for example or the color of the sky or the red on the building in the second pic.
http://imgur.com/a/DJ5YfFD
My information is that the latest updates addressed some of this. I think FiLMiC will actually solve it once I have a test pattern and can dial it all in to a color accurate setting. It's mostly people, brick buildings and anything that has red, like a stop sign, tail lights on a car, stop lights etc. I will get a few test patterns and spend a day getting everything accurate . I'll send you the settings and you can put them in as a pre-set so you'll never need to adjust. While most people don't want to spend the money to have the full featured app, for those of us that do it might completely save an otherwise great device!
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EricMartinSoCal said:
You'll see in the screen shots in my link (taken from a review video) that the stock color palate is completely out of whack. Look at the biker's face for example or the color of the sky or the red on the building in the second pic.
http://imgur.com/a/DJ5YfFD
My information is that the latest updates addressed some of this. I think FiLMiC will actually solve it once I have a test pattern and can dial it all in to a color accurate setting. It's mostly people, brick buildings and anything that has red, like a stop sign, tail lights on a car, stop lights etc. I will get a few test patterns and spend a day getting everything accurate . I'll send you the settings and you can put them in as a pre-set so you'll never need to adjust. While most people don't want to spend the money to have the full featured app, for those of us that do it might completely save an otherwise great device!
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Hellboy spotted in the first picture Anyway, which firmware are you on? Never seen the red tint being this bad on mine though. Lastly, does the video stutter when horizontal panning whilst using Filmic Pro ?

I didn't notice too much red on my stock camera either
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compunerd3 said:
I didn't notice too much red on my stock camera either
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It's possible that the latest updates fixed a lot of the saturation issue. That's great info. I see you have the VOG-L09 which is what I have coming as well. I don't have my phone yet, but the red issue may be a result of early software. It's mostly found in the review videos which were all shot in Paris at the launch. I do however think the FilMiC Pro video you posted seems a more realistic color palate than the stock one you posted so everything points to positive results. I've got a whole thread on the red tint and stutter on video going here in the "guides" section.
To answer the question asked before this, I don't think FiLMiC will help with the horizontal stutter? Unless @compunerd3 sees something improved in this area?
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EricMartinSoCal said:
It's possible that the latest updates fixed a lot of the saturation issue. That's great info. I see you have the VOG-L09 which is what I have coming as well. I don't have my phone yet, but the red issue may be a result of early software. It's mostly found in the review videos which were all shot in Paris at the launch. I do however think the FilMiC Pro video you posted seems a more realistic color palate than the stock one you posted so everything points to positive results. I've got a whole thread on the red tint and stutter on video going here in the "guides" section.
To answer the question asked before this, I don't think FiLMiC will help with the horizontal stutter? Unless @compunerd3 sees something improved in this area?
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I don't notice a stutter in horizontal panning in either stock camera or Filmic pro. I'll try some proper footage later on or tomorrow to compare and upload but first hand I don't notice it.
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compunerd3 said:
I don't notice a stutter in horizontal panning in either stock camera or Filmic pro. I'll try some proper footage later on or tomorrow to compare and upload but first hand I don't notice it.
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I can live with it... but here is an example. Again, it's on pre-release software.
https://youtu.be/GjUKdPabp0U
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