Hi All,
I've got my Moto X and I really love it. I previously had a Nexus 5 which I liked, but doesn't have much character compared to the X. The only issue I've got is camera quality. It seems insanely poor (and the N5 wasn't exactly great). One thing I've been doing though is using Google's stock camera app rather than Moto's. Is that a mistake? Is there software optimisation in the Moto camera app which gives better results?
Any other tips and getting the best pics? It's not even just low light. I took a pic on a bright day and the picture was totally washed out (my friend took the same pic on his iphone and it was just another league). All pics just seem to have bad light metering and are very noisy. I've never had this in a phone camera before...
Thanks in advance...
tifosi256 said:
Hi All,
I've got my Moto X and I really love it. I previously had a Nexus 5 which I liked, but doesn't have much character compared to the X. The only issue I've got is camera quality. It seems insanely poor (and the N5 wasn't exactly great). One thing I've been doing though is using Google's stock camera app rather than Moto's. Is that a mistake? Is there software optimisation in the Moto camera app which gives better results?
Any other tips and getting the best pics? It's not even just low light. I took a pic on a bright day and the picture was totally washed out (my friend took the same pic on his iphone and it was just another league). All pics just seem to have bad light metering and are very noisy. I've never had this in a phone camera before...
Thanks in advance...
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I don't have any answers but I'm hoping there are some fixes released soon, either by motonovo themselves or some industrious xda mods
I don't think any software mods are going to improve the camera much on our Moto X 2014's. Seems Motorola used an oldish camera sensor in this device. Some people are even saying this camera shouldn't have been used in a 2014 flagship. So we have 2 choices - Put up with it or get a phone with a better camera.
Diesel779 said:
I don't think any software mods are going to improve the camera much on our Moto X 2014's. Seems Motorola used an oldish camera sensor in this device. Some people are even saying this camera shouldn't have been used in a 2014 flagship. So we have 2 choices - Put up with it or get a phone with a better camera.
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Wow, that's really depressing to hear :crying:
I knew before buying that it wasn't the best camera, but it seems to be the worst I've had since the nexus 4. Seems Motorola like to clear inventory of old stock (see the moto 360 hardware)
tifosi256 said:
Wow, that's really depressing to hear :crying:
I knew before buying that it wasn't the best camera, but it seems to be the worst I've had since the nexus 4. Seems Motorola like to clear inventory of old stock (see the moto 360 hardware)
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Yeah, I expected more from a 13mp camera. I'm considering switching to a Nexus 6, but I really like my Moto X apart from the camera.
Diesel779 said:
I don't think any software mods are going to improve the camera much on our Moto X 2014's. Seems Motorola used an oldish camera sensor in this device. Some people are even saying this camera shouldn't have been used in a 2014 flagship. So we have 2 choices - Put up with it or get a phone with a better camera.
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It's the same sensor as the g3..
robstunner said:
It's the same sensor as the g3..
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If that's the case, it must be the lens or software. The G3 has a very nice camera.
robstunner said:
It's the same sensor as the g3..
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The Moto X 2014 is the same sensor as the G3? Are you sure? But, even if that is true, the G3 has OIS and laser auto focus and other improvements. But I'm pretty sure the G3 uses a slightly newer sensor. The pics on my G3 weren't bad, not great but ok. However, they were a LOT better than on my Moto X 2014, this camera is a joke.
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tifosi256 said:
If that's the case, it must be the lens or software. The G3 has a very nice camera.
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I'm almost certain they use different sensors, I could be wrong. The G3 has OIS and laser auto focus. The camera on the G3 is significantly better than the Moto X 2014, I've owned both. There seems to be a lot of people complaining about the camera o the Moto X, but no one doing the same for the G3. If they used the same cameras I wouldn't expect that to be the case.
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It's the same sensor as the g3..
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Have you got any links that state the Moto X 2014 uses the same camera as the G3? The G3 could just be better because of it's extra hardware i.e OIS and laser autofocus, but I'd still be interested in seeing a link stating these devices have the exact same camera.
Right in the middle there.
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Yes this camera blows. I had a S5 then a Note Edge. I love this phone way more than either of those but omg this thing has a crap camera
Both camera's (g3/moto x) have the same Sony IMX135, only the g2/3 (both the same sensor) have OIS and apparently better software. Compared to the lg g2 the moto x sucks donkey balls.
It does help to use other camera apps.
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Right in the middle there.
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Just goes to show how much difference OIS and laser auto focus make, because the camera on the Moto X 2014 performs nowhere near as good as the G3. I'm just going to stick with this phone now until the HTC M9 is released. I loved my M8 but the camera and how tall and skinny it was led me to sell it. I'll definitely be switching to the M9 though if HTC use a better camera.
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Just goes to show how much difference OIS and laser auto focus make, because the camera on the Moto X 2014 performs nowhere near as good as the G3. I'm just going to stick with this phone now until the HTC M9 is released. I loved my M8 but the camera and how tall and skinny it was led me to sell it. I'll definitely be switching to the M9 though if HTC use a better camera.
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more like software and optics, but ya i agree. I think the m8 camera holds it's own against the moto x, especially in low light.
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more like software and optics, but ya i agree. I think the m8 camera holds it's own against the moto x, especially in low light.
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I'm just looking at an M8, I think I'd be stupid to get another M8 now though with the M9 around the corner. OIS has to help with the G3 camera and that laser auto focus is good. My G3 just kept overheating though, and after a google search it seemed to be a pretty common problem so I got rid of it. I was considering the Nexus 6, but like I say - I think I'll just stick with the Moto X 2014 until the M9 is released.
Edit to add: With the huge difference in picture quality from the Moto X 2014 and the G3 its more than just software that's creating the difference.
Taken inside an olive garden.... I feel like my note 2 was twice as good.
Yeah, that's pretty typical of a Moto X shot indoors
Well, someone has suggested the camera app might make a difference so I'll use the moto one for a bit and see. The focussing seems OK, so the lack of laser focussing isn't doing this. It has to be optics or software.
When looking at this phone, I kept hearing how Moto had listened to users and improved since the first X, so I assumed that would mean it would be OK. But they either lied, or the old X had a horrifically bad camera
tifosi256 said:
Hi All,
I've got my Moto X and I really love it. I previously had a Nexus 5 which I liked, but doesn't have much character compared to the X. The only issue I've got is camera quality. It seems insanely poor (and the N5 wasn't exactly great). One thing I've been doing though is using Google's stock camera app rather than Moto's. Is that a mistake? Is there software optimisation in the Moto camera app which gives better results?
Any other tips and getting the best pics? It's not even just low light. I took a pic on a bright day and the picture was totally washed out (my friend took the same pic on his iphone and it was just another league). All pics just seem to have bad light metering and are very noisy. I've never had this in a phone camera before...
Thanks in advance...
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What are you on about? I find the Moto x rear camera quite decent. The front camera is pathetic in low light conditions, can barely refresh the view finder once a second. But the rear camera is quite good to be honest. Here's a couple of samples I took with it.
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What are you on about? I find the Moto x rear camera quite decent. The front camera is pathetic in low light conditions, can barely refresh the view finder once a second. But the rear camera is quite good to be honest. Here's a couple of samples I took with it.
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These two shots were taken within seconds of each other. This is a horrible camera. I love this phone, but this honestly might be a deal breaker for me. Kinda hurts to say that because I fell in love with the device immediately. My only option is a Oneplus and I really don’t want to deal with their dumb ordering process.
TigerDNA said:
These two shots were taken within seconds of each other. This is a horrible camera. I love this phone, but this honestly might be a deal breaker for me. Kinda hurts to say that because I fell in love with the device immediately. My only option is a Oneplus and I really don’t want to deal with their dumb ordering process.
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Maybe installing this will help.. This is a modded version of the stock camera app called Camera+. Loaded with advanced settings. Slide open the settings and click the ladybug icon to access them.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wxa1xu00onp4mwv/MotCamera+_3.3.20.8.apk
Happy tinkering
manrock said:
Maybe installing this will help.. This is a modded version of the stock camera app called Camera+. Loaded with advanced settings. Slide open the settings and click the ladybug icon to access them.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wxa1xu00onp4mwv/MotCamera+_3.3.20.8.apk
Happy tinkering
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Well, you've piqued my interest. Is this the thread you grabbed the link from?
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I do have the camera update installed. I have tried other camera apps including Camera Zoom and Shot Control.
Is anyone else having ridiculous problems with focusing--usually in macro situations? It's very frustrating and, frankly, embarrassing that the camera focuses so poorly. I often have to move the focus reticle around multiple times, reframe my shot, or just give up on trying to capture a focus in most macro situations (such as when I want to grab focus on an object real close and have the background blur out). I had no problems with this on my Gnex.
I just bought my Moto X over the Thanksgiving holiday and didn't know what the camera was like before the camera update, but I couldn't imagine it being worse than what I'm experiencing with it right now.
Here are two example photos of a gnome sitting a respectable 4-6" away from my camera. I found that if I moved the focus reticle onto the blue sleeve, it captured focus very well. However, if I tried to focus on the face or just brought the camera up to the gnome in a "real life situation", it wouldn't focus even after multiple movements of the focus reticle.
Then put the focus on the blue arm part. Problem solved.
natezire71 said:
Then put the focus on the blue arm part. Problem solved.
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Lol.
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I tested the camera outside of my room and it's fine. Thanks for the tip. Plus there is the new camera update.
mrsonsai said:
I tested the camera outside of my room and it's fine. Thanks for the tip. Plus there is the new camera update.
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What's the trick to get it to focus on close objects in other apps? I cannot get barcodes to scan in the Amazon app because they are out of focus when they are close enough to be big enough.
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What's the trick to get it to focus on close objects in other apps? I cannot get barcodes to scan in the Amazon app because they are out of focus when they are close enough to be big enough.
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honestly I'm not sure. It just sort of seemed to work when I used it outside of my bedroom. Maybe try it in a different light?
Camera focus
I also tested the camera outside of my room and it's working fine.:good:
I've had a number of issues with focusing as well, especially in macro. You can try turning on the manual focus control and having it focus on your subject which seems to help in most cases. However I have had a number of times where the camera just won't focus at all unless I move it to another point and then back to the original photo. It hasn't happened a ton but I have had it happen enough to notice it.
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termleech said:
I've had a number of issues with focusing as well, especially in macro. You can try turning on the manual focus control and having it focus on your subject which seems to help in most cases. However I have had a number of times where the camera just won't focus at all unless I move it to another point and then back to the original photo. It hasn't happened a ton but I have had it happen enough to notice it.
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I have this same problem as well. I have a republic wireless one that didnt get the kit kat update yet, and i'm dying for the big camera update in the hopes that it will save me.
the only good thing about an iphone is the flawless camera. otherwise, my moto x just plain rules.
Decided to do a micro-focus comparison vs my S2, here's a sample of both focusing as close as they can on my computer monitor. The best image from each was selected:
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I know it's not apples-to-apples (this isn't the same type of problem) but the camera definitely has some serious issues.
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I do have the camera update installed. I have tried other camera apps including Camera Zoom and Shot Control.
Is anyone else having ridiculous problems with focusing--usually in macro situations? It's very frustrating and, frankly, embarrassing that the camera focuses so poorly. I often have to move the focus reticle around multiple times, reframe my shot, or just give up on trying to capture a focus in most macro situations (such as when I want to grab focus on an object real close and have the background blur out). I had no problems with this on my Gnex.
I just bought my Moto X over the Thanksgiving holiday and didn't know what the camera was like before the camera update, but I couldn't imagine it being worse than what I'm experiencing with it right now.
Here are two example photos of a gnome sitting a respectable 4-6" away from my camera. I found that if I moved the focus reticle onto the blue sleeve, it captured focus very well. However, if I tried to focus on the face or just brought the camera up to the gnome in a "real life situation", it wouldn't focus even after multiple movements of the focus reticle.
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Download the app "Camera JB+" from the Play Store and all your problems are solved. I think it's 1.99.
Speaking of the horrible camera on this phone does anyone get bad flash glares in their photos while using flash?? I swear this phone would be perfect if it at least had a gs3 quality camera.
Auto focus uses contrast measurement between lines of the sample area. If the area you're trying to focus on has little contrast, especially in low light, it will have a difficult time trying to focus.
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Decided to do a micro-focus comparison vs my S2, here's a sample of both focusing as close as they can on my computer monitor. The best image from each was selected:
I'll let you guess which is which.
I know it's not apples-to-apples (this isn't the same type of problem) but the camera definitely has some serious issues.
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I have an s2...And now a Moto x...not sure about you...But my x's camera blows my s2 away really.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
kj2112 said:
I have an s2...And now a Moto x...not sure about you...But my x's camera blows my s2 away really.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
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Check out this thread I posted a bit ago, did a comparison between the cameras side-by-side:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550110
Eckyx said:
Check out this thread I posted a bit ago, did a comparison between the cameras side-by-side:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550110
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That's your phones....And your picture taking techniques.....right?
I'm using fv-5, not stock app....And again...my Moto x blows my s2 away. My wife agrees.
Does it compare to my cheap 150 dollar Sony camera's pictures....nope. And no phone will.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
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Check the pictures thread to see what people have taken. Probably people who have spent time working on their technique with this phone....But some great pics in there.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
kj2112 said:
I have an s2...And now a Moto x...not sure about you...But my x's camera blows my s2 away really.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
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kj2112 said:
That's your phones....And your picture taking techniques.....right?
I'm using fv-5, not stock app....And again...my Moto x blows my s2 away. My wife agrees.
Does it compare to my cheap 150 dollar Sony camera's pictures....nope. And no phone will.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
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Check the pictures thread to see what people have taken. Probably people who have spent time working on their technique with this phone....But some great pics in there.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
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Yes, I'm using the latest update to the stock camera on the Moto X, and the stock camera app on the S2, both using stock settings. I retook pictures several times to prevent blurry shots. The Moto is definitely better indoors but outdoor performance is equal at best to the older module used in the S2. I'd be happy to purchase FV-5 and do a comparison using that if you'd like - what kind of technique am I supposed to have with a cellphone camera that has basically no controls or options? It's not like a DSLR - pretty much as point-and-shoot as you can get.
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Yes, I'm using the latest update to the stock camera on the Moto X, and the stock camera app on the S2, both using stock settings. I retook pictures several times to prevent blurry shots. The Moto is definitely better indoors but outdoor performance is equal at best to the older module used in the S2. I'd be happy to purchase FV-5 and do a comparison using that if you'd like - what kind of technique am I supposed to have with a cellphone camera that has basically no controls or options? It's not like a DSLR - pretty much as point-and-shoot as you can get.
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Fv-5 let's you control everything...or just point and shoot too. Yes....it takes time to learn what to change and when....But it can do much more than stock. Someone who is into photography on a real camera....not a phone....would probably learn quick how to get the most out of our crappy phone cameras with fv-5.
Or a similar app....that's just the one I read about and bought.
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Loving my new moto g. The camera has improved in many ways when compared to gen1. However, whenever I click pictures with the front camera especially when not in sunlight the picture comes shaky and blur. I attached a screenshot of how the pic is supposed(screenshot in the camera app) to come n how it ends up coming.
P.s.- I don't have shaky hands
Probably the front camera aperture is not wide enough to take pictures with faster shutter in low light situations. If it sets the shutter speed too low a minimal shake will make your pic blur.
Edit :Can you see what ISO, aperture and shutter speed is being used (check picture details)?
Front camera is one of the worst components on android phones...
Even the rear camera is not that great on the majority of android phones, so nothing to expect that on the new moto g that the front camera would be anything better...
Kunal5894 said:
Loving my new moto g. The camera has improved in many ways when compared to gen1. However, whenever I click pictures with the front camera especially when not in sunlight the picture comes shaky and blur. I attached a screenshot of how the pic is supposed(screenshot in the camera app) to come n how it ends up coming.
P.s.- I don't have shaky hands
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Download Google Camera From playstore. Image quality is better than the stock camera app .
Shubham84 said:
Download Google Camera From playstore. Image quality is better than the stock camera app .
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Does it improve even the front facing camera ? Could someone please upload a picture taken with the Google Camera and one with the Stock Camera app so we can check the differences ;D ?
Marakatu said:
Does it improve even the front facing camera ? Could someone please upload a picture taken with the Google Camera and one with the Stock Camera app so we can check the differences ;D ?
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that would be very nice, to make a comparison...
Marakatu said:
Could someone please upload a picture taken with the Google Camera and one with the Stock Camera app so we can check the differences ;D ?
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It would take you a second to do the same thing. Don't be lazy m8.
Sadly mine isn't here yet (on pre-order in UK, releases on the 15th. My original Moto G broke a couple of days ago too so it was just as well this is releasing.)
I have a problem with the front camera. In low light condition, my camera suffers a delay in comparison of reality, as if it was lag. Anyone else with this same problem?
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I have a problem with the front camera. In low light condition, my camera suffers a delay in comparison of reality, as if it was lag. Anyone else with this same problem?
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Yes , I got the moto g 2 like 5 days back
And I do face the lag on the front camera
Syhota said:
It would take you a second to do the same thing. Don't be lazy m8.
Sadly mine isn't here yet (on pre-order in UK, releases on the 15th. My original Moto G broke a couple of days ago too so it was just as well this is releasing.)
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I would do it if mine was with me. Still didn't receive it.
Once I get my hands on it I'll do it and post it here ;D
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I would do it if mine was with me. Still didn't receive it.
Once I get my hands on it I'll do it and post it here ;D
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Finally dispatched at like 5:15pm today.
Says it'll be here between Thursday and Friday. Don't want to wait so long
Was just at a store and saw iphone 6 camera and i was amazed on how amazing it was so my question is how is iphone 6 8mp camera better than 16mp S5? None of android phones have come close to iPhone 6 camera. Why is that? Not that i like apple products.
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Was just at a store and saw iphone 6 camera and i was amazed on how amazing it was so my question is how is iphone 6 8mp camera better than 16mp S5? None of android phones have come close to iPhone 6 camera. Why is that? Not that i like apple products.
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Yellowness camera can not be better
There is sony sensor, sony sensor is yellownes/redness photos
Watch this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/white-balance-t2870875
Color reproducion like in 5s
Also
Nokia Lumia 1520
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Samsung tried, yellowness although decreased
http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/Apple_iPhone_6_Plus_vs_Samsung_GALAXY_Note_4.html
but it still there
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-note4.shtml#s9
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But s5 camera also have bug. Rosines in non HDR mode.
Best cameras now is Lenovo Vibe Z2 Pro, Galaxy Alpha, Nokia Lumia 1020 and Nokia Lumia 1520
sofia-captivate said:
Was just at a store and saw iphone 6 camera and i was amazed on how amazing it was so my question is how is iphone 6 8mp camera better than 16mp S5? None of android phones have come close to iPhone 6 camera. Why is that? Not that i like apple products.
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http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-6-ios8-camera-problems,news-19585.html
All phone cameras have their strengths and weaknesses, and most compact standalone cameras are way better.
sofia-captivate said:
Was just at a store and saw iphone 6 camera and i was amazed on how amazing it was so my question is how is iphone 6 8mp camera better than 16mp S5? None of android phones have come close to iPhone 6 camera. Why is that? Not that i like apple products.
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Did you compare both?
Or where did you see that?
From what I've seen, the iPhone 6 camera is very good for a 8mp camera but not even close to the S5's camera.
Lots of reviewed site said that 6+ camera better color reproduction than s5 but can't compete the detail value because of 8mp
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Galaxy's camera seem to be slightly better.
The S5 is better from a detail perspective in outdoor shots but in low light and Indoor shots, the iPhone 6 wins due to the larger pixels Apple implemented. The S5 is still able to compete due too the image stabilization mode but that's only really beneficial with stationary scenes and subjects.
I have read that colour reproduction is typically better on the iPhone since the S5 usually produces very vibrant and contrast rich photos. It really depends on your personal preferences in the end.
Both phones will take great photos but I would consider the iPhone to be more "idiot" proof. It's relatively hard to mess up your shot when shooting with an iPhone. The S5 on the other hand can produce a vast range of images depending on the settings you change.
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Idiots still using megapixels to judge camera quality. 8 vs. 16 doesn't mean **** on these small screens. Even in an 8x10 print you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
bloodrain954 said:
Idiots still using megapixels to judge camera quality. 8 vs. 16 doesn't mean **** on these small screens. Even in an 8x10 print you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
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do you just view your pic and don't stretch it to zoom? [emoji15]
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Idiots ) ... SRSLY? all of you are srsly? Can u be OK with a 8mpx phone which cost almost 1000$? Fu* THIS sh**t
U DON'T even have ir blaster, Bluetooth, WATERPROOF, etc etc etc
1mpx front camera? )))))) OMG
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As an hardcore Android advocate, it's a bit hard to edmitt: but the IPhone 6 camera rocks!!! I just played with it for an hour and I'm really impressed! Man, can that camera take nice pictures - lighting fast! The auto focus is the fasted I have ever tested. I compared it to my S5 side by side, and the S5 has no chance in this case! Jesus!
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As an hardcore Android advocate, it's a bit hard to edmitt : but the IPhone 6 camera rocks!!! Just playrd with it for an hour and I'm really impressed! Man can that camera take nice pictures lighting fast! The auto focus is the fasted I have even tested. Compared it with my S5 side by side, and the S5 has no chance in this case! Jesus!
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Agreed. Not to mention how much better it feels compared to the s5. Don't get me wrong I still wouldn't trade. I'm having too much fun with all the new roms.
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Agreed. Not to mention how much better it feels compared to the s5. Don't get me wrong I still wouldn't trade. I'm having too much fun with all the new roms.
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Agreed! ? felt soooo premium!
I also would never leave Android and the ability to customize everything the way I want it. Just hope "we" can catch up with the premium feel and function.
S5 camera beats iphone 6 details wise. Must be blind not to see it.
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S5 camera beats iphone 6 details wise. Must be blind not to see it.
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It's true but that's only really applicable in daylight situations. The S5's extra detail turns into a noise filled mess in low light situations where as the iPhone 6 with its lower resolution camera retains more usable detail albeit with some noise but that's too be expected with such a small sensor.
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More yellownes. This is best camera?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSxUQQr33Qk
sonyfan12 said:
More yellownes. This is best camera?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSxUQQr33Qk
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Yes I think the IPhone is closer to correct color reproduction. The G3 is way to cold is this video sample. Sure, the IPhone is probably a bit to warm. Bit over all it looks great.
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Yes I think the IPhone is closer to correct color reproduction. The G3 is way to cold is this video sample. Sure, the IPhone is probably a bit to warm. Bit over all it looks great.
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lol
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lol
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Well, it is! I've tested both cameras at the same time , so I know! That's more than you two Internet warriors can say.......
i will get right to it after seeeing the full review on mobile-review i was really disappointed with the low light ability of the cam even with OIS
heres the comparison
S5 Vs N4
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/low/note4-25.jpg
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/sgs5/low/sgs5-26.jpg
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/low/note4-27.jpg
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/sgs5/low/sgs5-27.jpg
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/low/note4-20.jpg
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/sgs5/low/sgs5-20.jpg
N4 vs Z3 , Lumia 930 , S5
lumia 930
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wow lumia really kick it ass
Who cares about nokia phones you can only take good pictures with it. There's no ecosystem, they are worthless.
Samsungs always had a terrible time with lowlight shots.
Note 3 is abysmal as Samsung always has that over processed cartoon like gel appearance.
Was hoping for much better but the Z3 woops it.
xManMythLegend said:
Samsungs always had a terrible time with lowlight shots.
Note 3 is abysmal as Samsung always has that over processed cartoon like gel appearance.
Was hoping for much better but the Z3 woops it.
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I really don't get why samsung don't work on improving the low-light performance; it's been their cameras' achilles heel for like forever.
There is another website that compares the low light performance of N4 against Z3, iphone 6 plus and butterfly 2 (from htc).
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/102/4914690/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/
It is actually a blind comparison of the 4 phones (named A, B, C and D), but the general consensus is that A =butterfly 2, B=iphone6p, C=N4, D=Z3.
In my opinion, N4 outperforms iphone6p in many cases, and is at least as good as Z3, while Z3 absolutely tanks in the last competition.
That's why I have much more faith in the low light performance of N4 and looking forward to it
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There is another website that compares the low light performance of N4 against Z3, iphone 6 plus and butterfly 2 (from htc).
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/102/4914690/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/
It is actually a blind comparison of the 4 phones (named A, B, C and D), but the general consensus is that A =butterfly 2, B=iphone6p, C=N4, D=Z3.
In my opinion, N4 outperforms iphone6p in many cases, and is at least as good as Z3, while Z3 absolutely tanks in the last competition.
That's why I have much more faith in the low light performance of N4 and looking forward to it
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sorry but imo N4 look the worst after Butterfly 2 , IP6 plus looks it has good color reproduction under low light with good details , N4 has horrible over processing with denoise filter and ****ty contrast ( like all samsung phones = ****ty low light performance ) , Z3 looks ok better than N4 and even it doesn't have OIS
Nokia still the king of low light photography
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I really don't get why samsung don't work on improving the low-light performance; it's been their cameras' achilles heel for like forever.
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yep its sucks , cams on Samsung phones works great with good light but as soon u go inside with medium lighting the images will become really bad and with low light the images turns horrible specially with night mode on u will get unusable bad image with no details at all
White balance is off on all but the lumia. Wonder if WB settings were different between them.
Those images are hardly conclusive. The mobile-review is a rushed review of a pre-production unit with preliminary software. Most importantly, the Note 4 camera isn't less capable. It has OIS and a Sony IMX240 sensor. It is just the software that needs tweaking. This is their first OIS camera so we shouldn't be judging it until the final retail product is out. They may be too conservative with the OIS and instead are using too high ISO and too quick shutter, the opposite of what LG did on its LG G2. And you shouldn't be directly linking to images on another site. It is bad manners. Link the whole review instead.
The E-price shootout is quite encouraging if the C phone is in fact the Note 4. Definitely beats B (supposedly iPhone 6+) in most of the shots and D in the flash shot.
All the images in eprice. Com is inconsistent, each one looks different and not taken from same spot
Another low-light camera comparison, between N4 and ip5s
http://www.ppomppu.co.kr/zboard/view.php?id=phone&no=2803207
got to say, I got even more confidence with N4 now
Based on those reviews it still seems to be an improvement over my note 3. Hopefully it get better from here. But Note still is the better device out of all 4 IMO. So I'm content with the result.
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Another low-light camera comparison, between N4 and ip5s
http://www.ppomppu.co.kr/zboard/view.php?id=phone&no=2803207
got to say, I got even more confidence with N4 now
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Man, I sure hope those are legit. I've seen many differing photo comparisons and some just make the N4 look horrendous. There was an youtube comparison between a Z3 and an N4 that made the N4 look worse than my N2. Not sure what to believe ATM.
I believe history. Samsungs sensors and features are not the problem. Its the insanely terrible processing that turns medium to lowlight pics into smeared noisy nonsense. For many lowlight is a majority of where they take pics (most social events are dimly lit) Nothing Ive read or seen leads me to believe they even care to fix it.
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Man, I sure hope those are legit. I've seen many differing photo comparisons and some just make the N4 look horrendous. There was an youtube comparison between a Z3 and an N4 that made the N4 look worse than my N2. Not sure what to believe ATM.
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dont go by that video,i do watched that................that seems to be from some other device rather than note 4 or there might be issues bcos most of the n4 pics he compared seems to be blurred.......................have seen much better n4 pics from mobilereview's russian review and i even checked 100% crops of full res images in comp with ip6+ as provided by them and note 4 has better details and its the clear winner.
k1ng617 said:
Man, I sure hope those are legit. I've seen many differing photo comparisons and some just make the N4 look horrendous. There was an youtube comparison between a Z3 and an N4 that made the N4 look worse than my N2. Not sure what to believe ATM.
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Almost N4 low light shots haven't got ISO info. This mean they are software processing, different to iPhone 5S. When taking low light shot, you have to wait some seconds for intergrated photo software tweak it, like Note 3.
iPhone and Z2/Z3 normally push higher ISO to get better low light shot. You will spend less time for each shot.
k1ng617 said:
Man, I sure hope those are legit. I've seen many differing photo comparisons and some just make the N4 look horrendous. There was an youtube comparison between a Z3 and an N4 that made the N4 look worse than my N2. Not sure what to believe ATM.
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That "comparison" is obviously fake! Note 4 pics on that video look worst than S4 or S5.
And who the hell is releasing camera (photo) comparison on YT? Without the jpg files? I call that comparison BS.
This one looks real and how Note 4 pics SHOULD look, i just hope to se Note 4 vs. iPhone 6 or 6+ soon.
alexcarterkarsus said:
Another low-light camera comparison, between N4 and ip5s
http://www.ppomppu.co.kr/zboard/view.php?id=phone&no=2803207
got to say, I got even more confidence with N4 now
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Note 4 looks really good. Hope it's true.
Hello. So, there has been a confusion on how to capture better photos and videos on Nexus 5. With the introduction of Android Lollipop we have the option to shoot RAW photos (which is basically the same as before, with the difference being that the image is not compressed or processed), and also we got a great app which is called L Camera..
L Camera was a great alternative for those who wanted to squeeze out as much as Nexus 5's camera has to offer. We even got to shoot at 1080p/60fps(although it was never fixed to work properly) and a resolution very close to 4K.
I hoped that since Google unlocked all this power for us with Lollipop, Marshmallow was going to bring even better stuff on the table. This does not seem to be the case though.
So, right now we are basically stuck in terms of camera options. The L Camera has been outdated, problematic and unsupported for quite some while now and Google's stock camera is still really bad.
How do you feel about all this guys? Have you found any better camera app than L Camera that works on Marshmallow? Are you building something yourselves? (maybe and improved version of L Camera)
Let's discuss this!
There is this "Manual Camera", "Camera FV-5", and "Open Camera"
This may sound strange, but the Marshmallow stock camera app (which has been updated via the play store after M was released) is far better than that of Lollipop. I have found that it is far faster to respond (both focusing and the shutter), and handles low light much better (including with HDR). The auto white balance is much improved, too. The controls are more convenient than they were on Lollipop. This was a big surprise. One day, after routine updates, the camera just became much better!
True, it is no SLR, but whereas the photos I got from the Nexus 5 on Lollipop were mostly unusable except for viewing on another phone, now I get decent shots that I am not embarrassed to post online.
I use Proshot, really great camera app.
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jshames said:
This may sound strange, but the Marshmallow stock camera app (which has been updated via the play store after M was released) is far better than that of Lollipop. I have found that it is far faster to respond (both focusing and the shutter), and handles low light much better (including with HDR). The auto white balance is much improved, too. The controls are more convenient than they were on Lollipop. This was a big surprise. One day, after routine updates, the camera just became much better!
True, it is no SLR, but whereas the photos I got from the Nexus 5 on Lollipop were mostly unusable except for viewing on another phone, now I get decent shots that I am not embarrassed to post online.
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Got to agree. I notice especially low light performance has improved greatly on the stock camera app on marshmallow. Not sure what Google has done but good job on them for doing it. It still responses like crap and lags some times but if the pictures are better I am all for it.
Stock app is much better its what I call serviceable now. I always knew the Nexus 5s camera was capable but poor software always held it back. Sad to see it took almost 3 years after it launched to become capable.
Open camera is also a great app and 100% free and open source
The best choice is to shoot DNG and then use lightroom for android
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The lens is prone to gather grease from you fingers causing a hazy streaky look. I always bring a microfiber cloth to clean it off before shooting.
There isnt a proper RAW color profile available so it takes work to get images to pop like the JPEGs do. One of these days I'l generate one, it requires shooting a colorchecker chart outside in clear mid-day.
I haven't taken much pictures with it but this one.
I have a 6S and iPhone 5, I had lost my iPhone 5 out of stupidity. I wanted a cheap replacement and heard good things about the nexus, I had already tried the Galaxy s5 and htc one m8 so might as well kill 2 birds with one stone a good cheap phone and a chance to try out the nexus 5. Very impressed so far, very smooth. Runs much smoother then the galaxies I had. Ran me $160 CAD and it's unlocked
I decided to take a picture last night with the nexus. Came out amazing, took some other low lighting shots in my room and compared it to my 6s and it isn't that bad to be completely honest much better then my s5, Note edge and htc in low lighting.
The N5 is terrible for general photography esp low-light. Only my iPhone 5S is worse in low-light situations lol.
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The N5 is terrible for general photography esp low-light. Only my iPhone 5S is worse in low-light situations lol.
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It's even worse than a dedicated camera. But you can improve things by processing RAWs:
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Here's a daylight example of a processed RAW:
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It's even worse than a dedicated camera. But you can improve things by processing RAWs:
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Here's a daylight example of a processed RAW:
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RAW and post-editing kind of defeats the entire purpose of point-and-shoot. The first pic is really amazing with the amount of detail and clarity. The second one has too much grain for my liking. Takes me back to those Nokia cameraphones from yesteryears lol
But MM has really improved cam quality if the user knows how to use the manual settings. I've got better results with Camera FV-5 than with any other app.
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RAW and post-editing kind of defeats the entire purpose of point-and-shoot. The first pic is really amazing with the amount of detail and clarity. The second one has too much grain for my liking. Takes me back to those Nokia cameraphones from yesteryears lol
But MM has really improved cam quality if the user knows how to use the manual settings. I've got better results with Camera FV-5 than with any other app.
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Yes, RAW isn't user friendly, but this is thread about camera quality The second pic is really pushing it. It was a very dimly lit venue, a challenge for any camera. But offline processing allows much more sophisticated algorithms. Normally that shot would either be underexposed or at best a smoothed out, waxy-looking mess.
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Yes, RAW isn't user friendly, but this is thread about camera quality The second pic is really pushing it. It was a very dimly lit venue, a challenge for any camera. But offline processing allows much more sophisticated algorithms. Normally that shot would either be underexposed or at best a smoothed out, waxy-looking mess.
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True, but that means instant sharing is out of the question. And many people would be uncomfortable processing pics just so some distant grandma "Likes" it on Fb.
Everytime i take low-light shots, I remember my trusty N73 with its huge LED flash and N82 with xenon.
How would you say we can make the best use of HDR on our N5 with 3rd party apps? And does it really work?
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True, but that means instant sharing is out of the question. And many people would be uncomfortable processing pics just so some distant grandma "Likes" it on Fb.
Everytime i take low-light shots, I remember my trusty N73 with its huge LED flash and N82 with xenon.
How would you say we can make the best use of HDR on our N5 with 3rd party apps? And does it really work?
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I have a simple checklist I go through when processing raw photos: exposure, white balance and NR if needed. I rarely need anything else so for a single shot I'm normally done in less than a minute. Raw converters offer many options which can seem overwhelming for the novice, but there's nothing to it if you stick to the most important ones. OTOH if you are working on an uncalibrated monitor there's a small chance are you might be making things worse color-wise. I don't do HDR, sorry.
Snap camera? I threw it under system/apps, changed the name to camera2.apk and even the power button hot key works.
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"A better camera" super mode do the job very well in any light conditions.
But going manual pays it in certain situations.
https://flic.kr/p/v3nAd3
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prog19 said:
"A better camera" super mode do the job very well in any light conditions.
But going manual pays it in certain situations.
https://flic.kr/p/v3nAd3
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I'm enjoying "A Better Camera" too. It's really simple to use and produces nice photos. But I still prefer Camera FV-5 over it when I need manual setings.
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The best choice is to shoot DNG and then use lightroom for android
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lightroom can now take raw pictures with our N5
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lightroom can now take raw pictures with our N5
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And output any dng to full resolution.
The sad thing about LR is the import picture method
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