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Hi All,
I currently own a Acer Cloudmobile, it has horrific battery life even with a huge mugen power battery.
It's fine in standby, but eats battery when I travel by train.
So I've been looking at Xperias. My work has gone crazy for Zs and Z1s.
I was hoping the Z1s would be out by now, but it isn't.
So would you still buy a ZR today? what else would you consider.
I prefer having microSD (I have a 64GB card right now) and a removable battery just in case. I use my phone for the following things in order of priority. I'd also like an official 4.4 update. I have small hands for a guy, I tried an LG G2 and couldn't use the buttons on the back with one hand!
1. Listening to music
2. Surfing the web, emails social networking on a moving train or bus
3. Texting
4. Watching videos
5. Taking photos
6. Making calls
7. Gaming
Chrispynutt said:
Hi All,
I currently own a Acer Cloudmobile, it has horrific battery life even with a huge mugen power battery.
It's fine in standby, but eats battery when I travel by train.
So I've been looking at Xperias. My work has gone crazy for Zs and Z1s.
I was hoping the Z1s would be out by now, but it isn't.
So would you still buy a ZR today? what else would you consider.
I prefer having microSD (I have a 64GB card right now) and a removable battery just in case. I use my phone for the following things in order of priority. I'd also like an official 4.4 update. I have small hands for a guy, I tried an LG G2 and couldn't use the buttons on the back with one hand!
1. Listening to music
2. Surfing the web, emails social networking on a moving train or bus
3. Texting
4. Watching videos
5. Taking photos
6. Making calls
7. Gaming
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well!
you have two options, either wait for xperia z1 mini (which i guess you don't want since you can't wait for z1)
or buy the zr, either way if the lg g2 was too big for you z1 is even bigger.
imho the zr is a superb device, good camera (for phones) great battery life, reletavly compact for it's hardware, and i really don't feel like the 1.5 quad core snapdragon is outdated, it works flawleslly switching between open apps, heavy 3d games pdf files etc...
i whould reccomend it.
about android 4.4... sony never said it will come to zr yet... but we already have stable 4.4 rom and CM 11 also going steady soon for zr, besides that xperia z and zr have the same hardware, so most z roms work on zr, so i guess once z gets the android 4.4 someone will make a port for zr.
but you can't count on it if it's super importent for you.
The first android device that i can recommend without hesitation. First phone that i don't even need to flash.the stock rom is very good. Just root and you're good to go.
you know.. your question is quite blasphemous in this forum...
Xperia ZR has the perfect size, weight, ruggedness, performance, battery life (although I would want a battery that never needs charging - one could hope), front facing camera (i need low bandwidth data video calling and i dont do selfies)...
but I would wait for the Z1 mini if I can since you already lost about 4-6 months of us enjoying the ZR...
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Had my ZR for about a week now, upgraded from an Xperia Go.
A breath of fresh air after the sluggishness of the Go trying to run Cyanogen ICS, didn't even attempt installing JB.
Biggest improvement is with the camera, it actually takes a photo when I want rather than 10 seconds later.
Well pleased with it, am running the stock 4.2.2 ROM rooted and only had one problem so far - bluetooth handsfree doesn't work with the latest 2.67 update (Several threads in Sony forums about it, so it's not just me).
Not so sure
For me the ZR is definitively a very good device: good size, good power...
May be the batterie could have been better and the internal memory is a bit too small (8g so around 4.5 for user but you can root and transfer app to Sd with FolderMount).
I think you won't be disappointed but my feeling is that the Zr is a already a bit forgotten by Sony.
See the update schedule for KitKat, I m not even sure we ll get it on Zr and when? 2014? It s a joke...
So may be wait for the Z1s if you want to have update in the coming month.
Furthermore, it looks a lot better than the ZR.
This time it is really 'like the big one but smaller'.
You cannot say that when you compare Z and ZR....
z1s no removable battery, right?
Z1s is worth waiting，and ZR is the best choice at this stage.
I'd say, grab it while it's still on market
I just bought a new one. I used to own a HTC EVO 3D
and i would defenitly say it is an extremely good phone
My brother has the s4 mini and defenitly it is inferior to my xperia zr
Hi, I am also planning to buy my first android phone. My usage will me the same as of Chrispynutt except that I am not much into gaming (except for basic games like fruit cutter, temple run etc). Priority for me would be loud clear voice quality and good HD photos and videos
I am confused between Xperia ZR and Xperia ZL. Which of these will be the better performing phones and does Sony plan to countinue it's support/upgrade in 2014 and may be later on?
Also does these phones support 'AutoVoice Integration with Google Now' ( youtube[dot]com/watch?v=wI4bSMiO_xY )
gizmofreakxp said:
Hi, I am also planning to buy my first android phone. My usage will me the same as of Chrispynutt except that I am not much into gaming (except for basic games like fruit cutter, temple run etc). Priority for me would be loud clear voice quality and good HD photos and videos
I am confused between Xperia ZR and Xperia ZL. Which of these will be the better performing phones and does Sony plan to countinue it's support/upgrade in 2014 and may be later on?
Also does these phones support 'AutoVoice Integration with Google Now' ( youtube[dot]com/watch?v=wI4bSMiO_xY )
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Wait for Z1 mini... Sony will launch it in CES
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gizmofreakxp said:
Hi, I am also planning to buy my first android phone. My usage will me the same as of Chrispynutt except that I am not much into gaming (except for basic games like fruit cutter, temple run etc). Priority for me would be loud clear voice quality and good HD photos and videos
I am confused between Xperia ZR and Xperia ZL. Which of these will be the better performing phones and does Sony plan to countinue it's support/upgrade in 2014 and may be later on?
Also does these phones support 'AutoVoice Integration with Google Now' ( youtube[dot]com/watch?v=wI4bSMiO_xY )
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I suggest you wait too as voice quality is correct on Zr but not awesome, even quite bad sometimes.
Also the camera is decent but nothing more. 13MP but the iphone is better with is 8MP...
The vga front camera is awful...
I think sony had a great concept with the ZR (quite as good as the big one but smaller size, closer to the iphone) but the ZR was just a first attempt.
The internal memory is too small, the battery average as the camera...
Im happy with it but the Z1s seems to be a lot better deal.
And for support and update, I m still waiting for 4.3 in my country so don't expect much from Sony...
They said ZR will get 4.4 but when? When Android 5 will be released?
So i have an Xperia Z, and i'm thinking of upgrading to a Z1, but i don't know if it's a worthwhile investment.
I am more or less satisfied with my Z, camera is a miss in some more difficult situations, but other than that it does what i want it do.
Bassically i want to know 3 things;
1) Does the S800 make much of a difference in real usage compared to S4 Pro?
I have very high end games on my Z, like MW4, Riptide 2, Asphalt 8, and in my opinion they are as good as they can get, but maybe i am wrong.
2) How good is the screen?
3) How good is the camera, in your honest opinion? The more in-depth answer, the better!
I know i could read reviews, but they are running older software, so i think image quality might have changed over time.
Thank you for your answers, in advance.
Warmo said:
1) Does the S800 make much of a difference in real usage compared to S4 Pro?
I have very high end games on my Z, like MW4, Riptide 2, Asphalt 8, and in my opinion they are as good as they can get, but maybe i am wrong.
2) How good is the screen?
3) How good is the camera, in your honest opinion? The more in-depth answer, the better!
I know i could read reviews, but they are running older software, so i think image quality might have changed over time.
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I love my Z1 but in my honest opinion, I would probably not upgrade yet unless you are a diehard Sony fan or definitely can't wait for next September or so. But I'll try to answer your questions best I can:
1) It makes enough of a difference to show in games but doesn't really show huge improvements in normal usage. If your Z can play the games you have without hickups, then those games aren't a reason to upgrade to S800. This of course may or may not be different for future and upcoming games but for now both chips can play those games just fine. If you are thinking of upgrading, I would probably not list this as #1 reason unless you want a more future-proof device (and more are coming out during and after Q1).
2) The screen is a bit of hit and miss. It seems Sony is using at least two if not more types of panels and some of them are better than others. If you get a good one, the screen is excellent and very enjoyable. However the lower-graded panels seem to have a variety of issues from yellow hue and bad viewing angles to even problems with the actual touchscreen. The only way to avoid these issues is to read about them and then try to examine the unit you are going to purchase at a shop. I would personally not recommend getting the Z1 online for this reason. I also had to get my touchscreen fixed because of touch issues but after repairing it under warranty it works perfectly and I am not suffering from the yellow hue issue.
3) The camera is good but the software is lacking. To be more precise the automatic setting that the camera starts with (called Superior Auto or SA) is extremely hit or miss and in many cases produces sub-par pictures. This will be an issue if you want to quickly take the device out and snap pictures without touching settings. The pros on the other hand are that the manual settings are versatile and by using manual you can take as good or better pictures than any other cameraphone on the market right now not counting the new high end Lumia's with their pureview technology. There is hope that the camera software can be improved with future updates but this is what the current situation is like. As for my own experience, I'm still getting used to the manual settings and am not yet entirely satisfied with my pictures. I'm getting the hang of it though and they are showing some small improvement - my biggest challenge is low light (100% of the time in winter for me) and noise/grain.
As of now if I was you I would wait. There are new models coming out from Samsung and later from HTC and possibly other manufacturers and the rumors are quite promising. There is some inconsistency with the Z1s that are sold and you really need to be able to examine your unit prior to purchase unless you rely on getting lucky. Also it's likely that later on in Q3 or Q4 Sony will announce the successor to the Z1 which will probably be a bigger leap from the Xperia Z that you have right now. This is just my opinion and I hope it helps.
OFFTOPIC: Also don't be surprised if your thread goes PUFF as the mods don't allow comparison threads and I'm not sure will they count this as one.
1) It's definitely faster. But with 4.3, Z is already fast enough IMO.
2) I actually prefer Z's screen. Z1's has got slightly better viewing angle but Z's colours are better IMO. And Z has got white balance settings, Z1 doesn't.
3) I don't see that much difference between the two, to be honest. But Z1 can create much better bokeh. And when it's set to 20 MP, a slightly blurry photos may still look good when uploaded on web at lower resolution (e.g. Facebook's 2048x1536 pixels). Apart from that, they seem to produce similar looking photos, esp in terms of colour tones, contrast, noise levels, etc.
All in all, I don't think you should upgrade now. It's already a bit late for you to do that. Better wait for the 2014 flagship (Z1's successor).
I've owned the Z and I had a love/hate relationship with it for the following reasons:
-Battery : It sucked. No really, I've tried and tried to make it last at least a day and never succeeded. Yes, I'm a heavy user, but when I switched to the G2 I never ran out of juice with the same use.
-Screen: The screen on the Z1, no matter what these people are saying, is MUCH better than the Z. Not just in terms of viewing angles and washed out colors (which obviously have improved remarkably), also in terms of brightness and color reproduction.
-Lag: The S800 is a beast, after using the G2 I knew for a fact that any phone I buy next would absolutely have to have it. In real world use, its snappy as hell and even under the most intense 3D gaming and heavy multitasking it never skips a beat.
-Camera: the camera on the Z1 has improved after the latest update, and for me, the rule of thumb is quite simple. Use Superior Auto for night shots and Manual 20 MP the rest of the time and you won't need much tweaking to create some absolutely brilliant photos. The Z no matter what I tried It wouldn't hold a candle to the Z1.
This is my opinion having used both phones and a G2 - the upgrade is welllll worth it.
I'd definitely wait for 2014 flagships
few reason why I didnt get the Z and got the Z1
1. Z covered headphone jacks... really annoying to take out the flaps everytime you want to listen
2. battery life sucks
3. mediocre camera... (I expect sony to revolutionize smartphone camera at every flagship, same with that they did on Xperia S, first 12 mp camera)
which all the above was resolved at Z1...
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2 things:
1. if you are a person who has the cash power to upgrade your handset every year? then do it.
2. if you are a person who upgrades rarely and have to buy the absolute value for money handset every time (every only 2-3 years)... then don't do it, wait for the successor by end of the year.
Ask yourself, do you really need a new phone? Does your Xperia Z not perform as you like?
I would strongly recommend that you wait for few days until the CES (tech conference) ends. for the past few years sony has revealed new flagship during this conference (they might or might not do this year because the Z1 was released not to long ago). But you should wait and see if they release anything interesting for you.
regarding your question, The Z1 is an upgraded Z in almost every aspect including screen, battery, camera, chipset... etc and is more future proof because it has newer chipset and because it was released later so it will be supported for longer. However, if you are satisfied with your Z, I suggest that you wait for 2014 H2 flagships (not even the one that might be released in H1) which will be using chipset based on ARMv8 architecture because this will be a big step forward in the mobile industry. Chipset is the most important part of the phone because better chipset means better performance, gaming experience, camera, overall experience ...etc
thank you for opinions. I decided not to do the upgrade from the Z to the Z1, and i will wait to see what 2014 will bring.
i admit that the camera was really the singular compelling reason for me to switch, my Z does good pictures, except ones w/ bad light. but i can live with that.
hopefully the new flagships won't be as big as the reports are predicting. the Z is right at the edge of my comfort zone in terms of size, and i have big hands mind you.
Hi
I've an opportunity to trade my Xperia Z for a Nexus 5. What do you guys think?
The only reason I'm even considering this is due to the fast updates of android from google. My carrier here in canada is way too slow.. We were on 4.1 all these days ..just released 4.3 today..
What are the pros and cons?
I really like the look of my Xperia Z though..
vhl71 said:
Hi
I've an opportunity to trade my Xperia Z for a Nexus 5. What do you guys think?
The only reason I'm even considering this is due to the fast updates of android from google. My carrier here in canada is way too slow.. We were on 4.1 all these days ..just released 4.3 today..
What are the pros and cons?
I really like the look of my Xperia Z though..
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yes you should do this !
the n5 is great. However i personally will get the moto x as a seco dary device as i don't need that much power but rather a compact solid phone.
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The Nexus 5 has a faster CPU/GPU indeed, but the Xperia Z has better cameras, an SD card slot, an FM radio and better build quality / premium materials. It also depends on how much you like the Sony experience, with exclusive Sony features (Mobile BRAVIA Engine 2, WALKMAN, PlayStation Mobile, DUALSHOCK 3 support, Clear Phase and xLOUD audio, Smart Social Camera, My Xperia, etc.) and a more polished user interface.
I believe the Nexus has is and has always been a developer oriented device. While the Xperia Z is more consumer-media oriented.
Each has its pros and cons, but generally, they both are great devices and its just a matter of what ecosystem(Google - Sony) you prefer.
Xperia z1 or z2.
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Personally, I'd say go for Nexus 5. As mentioned earlier by other people nexus 5 is faster, the only thing nexus lost is on camera and build quality. X.Z is more towards premium side. Sony UI and so on is really my cup of tea. :good:
However, the reason why I propose you to go for nexus 5 is because of DEVELOPMENT. Not only it is faster there, there are tons of elite developer there. I'm not saying that XZ does not have elite developer, (we have alnikki, doomlord, niaboc and many many more). But, if you have noticed, development in XZ has noticeably gone slower and I believe at some time it will just die. In fact, the number of developer keep reducing over time. Just compare and you'll notice. Unless you are not into development, then go for Xperia Z. Otherwise Nexus 5 would be a better choice.
p/s: I own a nexus 4 (and assumed the development in N5 is the same), so I know the development progress in comparison to xperia Z very well.
Xperia Z without doubt.
Even the Nexus having a little bit better SoC, the building materials and quality of the Xperia Z are more important in my opinion.
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You're in luck... I own both a Xperia Z and a Nexus 5.
Performance
Firstly, the N5 is significantly faster. That thing is flipping quick.
The XZ isn't slow, but it isn't near the N5 in speed.
Sound
The sound quality on my XZ is bad. I'm not sure if mine is faulty, or it's just because of the waterproofing on the speaker.
The N5 speaker isn't brilliant, but it is better.
For headphone performance, the XZ is noticeably better, even without ClearAudio+ activated
The music playing application is the main issue with music on the N5. I hate Google music (Sure, I could simply use a different app, but still), it is frustrating to use and just plain annoying. Walkman, to me is the best music player by far, perhaps just my opinion, but you may value it anyway.
Screen
This is where it gets tricky.
I'm sure you've heard complaints about Sony's TFT displays, saying their viewing angles are bad, I however, very much like the XZ display.
To me, the display of the XZ is very realistic. The colours look real, the text looks sharp.
But the display of the N5 is also very nice. Better viewing angles (if you're into looking at your phone at weird angles.)
The colours don't look as real, but nowhere near as fake as that of Samsung. The screen is colourful, and definitely very good.
The ROMs of these two phones suit the screens very well. Sony's rom is largely black & white, with greyish gradients. The wallpapers are landscapes that really go well with the screen.
The N5 has an interface that is made up of 'synthetic' backgrounds - abstract, computer-made images that are colourful. The screen suits it very well.
I've tried swapping the wallpapers, and they don't work as well on each others screens.
Interface
Much like the screen, this is personal preference. I like the small app feature of the XZ, very useful.
I love the XZ interface in general, whenever I try to use AOSP, I just come back to the XZ.
The AOSP interface is good, but to me it just isn't as good.
Camera
I don't use the camera much, so I don't have much of an opinion. I just know that they are both good.
Build Quality
Don't assume that the N5 build quality is bad. I was actually very surprised by its build quality.
It feels solid, of an appropriate weight. Very impressive.
The N5 is shaped in a way that fits your hand better than the XZ - it feels smaller than what it actually is, which I like.
The build quality of the XZ is brilliant. Certainly something to boast about. Hell, the thing is water resistant. How many phones have that?
if I were you i would go for the n5. it has good build quality and better battery life than the z, it has a ridiculously accurate screen and is better in low light photography.
go and read anandtech's review on it and see if it is really for you
well i just went back from nexus 5 to Xperia Z, lack of micro sd slot killed it for me... i need the space...
n5 has its +'s but realised soon without microSD space runs out fast .... well at least for me.
I would choose Z just because I prefer Sony concept.
Stock Android is less interesting and less pretty.
I also prefer Sony's cameras
Plus the design, Nexus always looks like a tasteless brick.
Lol i own both now n5 and XZ
N5 is flying and has good speakers but i miss some features so the Z will be used too
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i have Samsung S3 4G Lte and i want to convert to Xperia Z !! my S3 is very nice, fast and battery friendly.
i like the Z because of its water proof and 13 mp camera.
so can any one please tell me is it worth to change my phone or the z isn't that good ??
i mean is the z deserve to have or it is not that cool as the specs says??
thanks for advice every one
yahyanael said:
i have Samsung S3 4G Lte and i want to convert to Xperia Z !! my S3 is very nice, fast and battery friendly.
i like the Z because of its water proof and 13 mp camera.
so can any one please tell me is it worth to change my phone or the z isn't that good ??
i mean is the z deserve to have or it is not that cool as the specs says??
thanks for advice every one
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How much do you want to spent? The XZ is a good phone, but if you're happy with your S3 there's no need to upgrade...
Also the XZ has become old.... if you're able to spend more, take the XZ2
The benchmarks say that Z is definetely faster and it is.
I had both
And personally i would say i like the XperiaZ a lot better than the SGS3.
The overall-look and feel is just amazing, the SGS3 in comparence felt cheap, and i really really hated the blue-ish screen of the SGS3,
although overall it had better viewing angles than the XperiaZ.
Camera: In dark conditions be it in video or picture-mode, the SGS3 surpasses the XperiaZ, in daylight the Camera of the Xperia-Z is better, except for Macro-Shots, those are better on the SGS3 too.
Sound: The sound that the microphone of the XperiaZ records (videos, telephone) is really crystal-clear compared to the SGS3 one.
The Headset/In-Ears are better on the Sony as usual, but even with other/better (Sennheiser/Audiotechnica/AKG)-Headphones the sound out of the Headphone-Jack of the XperiaZ is better than that of the SGS3
The Buildin-Speakers therefore are better/louder on the SGS3.
If you should purchase the XperiaZ is really up to you, in my location they are actually really cheap to get, so probably yea.
Although the Xperia Z1 Compact might be a better upgrade.
The Z1-Compact has a lot better Battery-Life a better processor and would be overall (in my opinion) the best upgrade, its not as expensive as the Z1/Z2 but on the other hand has superior hardware and battery-life compared to the XperiaZ.
But its really your decision, i can't make a decision for you
Hope it helped.
as a almost two month user of xperia z I can say one think: Buy it if you gonna use it as a nice looking phone(call, sms, social). For anything else forget about z, why? because of battery. so what if its fast? so what if it can run any game or app, battery on z is just most hilarious joke i've seen for past few years of my phones.
I love my xperia z, its look amazing, its durable, screen is very good and its fast but when you unplug it from charger at 7:00 you gonna need it after... 5h of typical use(LTE internet, NFC, camera). Better buy z1 compact or z2... sad but true, and looking at android 4.4 and how it thread batteries on others phones(not only sony) I think that 4.4 update for z gonna be major flop for battery...
Try Xperia z and other varians. Its best smartphone in the world (of course for me)
sorry for bad english. i hope you understand what i mean..
I have been a big fan of Xperia Z series since the first Z. I changed my phone every time the new Z came out (except Z1 since I just started my career life without much savings).
Every time the new Z came out, I could find its awesomeness, imo, for example the first Z was stylish, waterproof, and powerful but it suffers a lot from heat,washed out display, and loosen waterproof charging caps. Then Z1 came out with more charming metal body, magnetic charging port, and 20 Mpixels camera, highest for a smartphone at the time.
Z2 came out as what the first Z should be at the first place with bigger and vivid screen, stereo speakers, and battery life is awesome to the point that I never found any others with this battery longevity at the time . For Z3, is almost identical to Z2 in term of spec sheet but I found it's very nice to hold in my hand plus the speaker is a lot better, far better than even Z5.
Z4 was very good on the spec sheet, especially with no more microusb cap but the battery life is a very big disappointment with almost half what Z3 lasts. It also suffers a lot of heat from normal uses. Z5 premium is, imo, the most refined Xperia with decent battery life, big screen, stylish material and colors selection.
Also, I don't know if it's me alone but every time I got the new Xperia on my hand, I felt really good and every single one of them was attractive.
Strangely, I can't explain but when I hold X/XP on on my hand, I didn't feel a thing, not even a glimpse of attractiveness although my country is offered 64GB/dual sims variant at the same price as Galaxy S7 (32GB/dual sims variant) with contract. I was never really into Samsung before (not because I hate it but I just neither found it attractive) but this time, I event think of waiting for Note7.
What are you guys' opinions? What are your before and after buying feelings toward X Performance?
How I've tired from this speech. Shut up and go to gnusmas, apple, htc, moto/lenovo, xiaomi, zte, huawei and where u want! DON'T BUY SONY! Moaner!
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How I've tired from this speech. Shut up and go to gnusmas, apple, htc, moto/lenovo, xiaomi, zte, huawei and where u want! DON'T BUY SONY! Moaner!
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Thanks a lot for your opinion. Actually I was about to buy XP. The price without contract is very high but the price with contract is acceptable. The plan that I will have to pay for is quite similar to what I currently use but I have to stay with it for a whole year. That's why I ask foy you guys' opinion at the first place. Because I love Xperia but this time I'm not really sure if it worth changing (not in term of spec sheet but your real experience of using it.
It seems you are extremely not appreciate the question but you made a good answer anyway. If a current user doesn't have such a good thing about it to say but purely throwing back a bad temper. It absolutely clarifies my answer.
If you are a dual sim user, you should note that the S7 forces the 2nd sim to be in 2G mode when the 1st sim is in 4G/3G, and vice versa.
On the other hand, the XP allows the 2nd sim to be in 3G-voice standby when the 1st sim is in 4G/3G. This functionality is important for countries like Korea or Japan which no longer have 2G, or countries like Singapore, Australia or USA which are going to shutdown their 2G networks soon. The other phones such as Mi5, Moto G4, Zuk Z2/Pro, etc which support this feature are from Chinese OEMs.
Another advantage the XP has over the S7 is Sony's willingness to allowing unlocking of the bootloader.
Im also considering getting a XP but with its cost here in the Philippines, i might get a S7 or a Z5.
I always look at the batt first, then the speakers, then the cam, then lastly the specs.
Get the sony xperia x performance. Hope getting a blazingly fast phone with a processor that snap dragon actually really refined and improved with a bigger jump than previous iterations.
Your being the best camera in a smart phone and one of the best android UIs on the market. And a nice phone that isn't riddled by logos. It's Sonys best. Everything you need nothing you don't. And the best waterproofing.
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^ I've been backreading the XP thread for quite some time now. How's the batt life and the speakers?
i bought mine for good stereo speakers screen size ,can change os if needed, underwater just in case , didn't but HTC cause is was to big and clumsy for me and mini specs wasn't the same at all
but sony dont have same and good speakers anymore
my last phone was twice louder and more bass (wt19i walkman)
but i would've wait for XP is about 50% different from Z5's( i have z5c) 80K and antutu against 120K (XP) and more 200$ bit didn't know how much it would take and my phone was really slow and old 6-5year old
btw Regular Xperia X is less fast than Z5's
anyway it was BIG different from my old sony (LWW wt19i) 10K score 700% LOL.... 1100% could be nicer.. but
to the point if you have Z5 dont buy the XP phone up to 40-60% overall performance does not worth spend another 750US$
The XP is waterproof, you have to get the S7 active of you want that feature, which is locked to AT&T in the US and is priced about 25% more than the XP. That made my choice pretty simple.
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I had XPERIA Z5 and bought XPERIA X Performance. This is the best Sony phone to date with no good battery life (battery life is better then one on XPERIA Z5 at the moment). Only reason to buy XPERIA X Performance if you already have XPERIA Z5 is because of heat. XPERIA X Performance only heats when using camera longer or if you play games too long and now in Croatia outside temperature is about 35 C. So if the heat is your reason buy it. Otherwise don't buy it. But if you have some older phone you should buy it.
About swiching to Samsung instead I don't know. I am not Samsung fun because of their UI.
Coming from z1c, z3c, z5c to now owning the XP for less then a week.
Before the XP the z5c was a let down compared to its predecessor the z3c. Particularly in general performance but moreover the lacklustre camera performance (the plagued 810 chip didn't help the Z5 line.)
Now, the XP.
Hands down is a far more refined device. As refined as the z3c. The performance is lightning - thanks to the 820 chip and the extra GB ram (3gb.)
Coupled with the lightning performance on the camera FUNCTIONALITY (I'm not stating the QUALITY of the Shots are the best - however the quality is drastically better then the z5c predecessor.)
But what I am stating is that the camera responds and opens and takes pictures faster then on any Sony I've played with (those of you coming from the z5 line know exactly what I'm on about.)
For instance, from standby/sleep mode. As long as the camera settings are preset to 'Launch & Capture.' Then when taking a picture from standby you will notice the picture that has been captured is of that instance of when you clicked the camera button... Although the UI hasn't even rendered. Try this with a moving object and you will notice how frkin fast the capture time is.
Again not professing the QUALITY of the Shots are superior, but simply that the function of the camera is now quite sublime.
The XP works VERY VERY WELL, overall outstanding performance. Yes it will have its niggles. But generally it's the best of what Sony have been trying to achieve.
I don't care for 4k video capture. Nor a 4k or QHD screen. This 1080p is more then ample for a phone. For me coming from the zCompact series (720p screens), this XP screen is amazing and more then enough.
I am very pleased with this device.
The only drawback is the lacklustre Sony Stamina mode. But this is almost not there fault. For OEMs to provide Android phones officially they must adopt key features from Google's updates, hence Sony HAD to employ Google Doze feautre, in this forced effort they clearly couldn't employ Sony's native Stamina Mode (succesfully at least) in the way we'd been accustomed to especially on the z3 line (you can imagine Doze and Sony Stamina not working happily hand in hand, as they both in essence are trying to achieve the same thing, albeit Sony Stamina Mode was far superior.)
Just my 2cents on anyone fighting with Sony Stamina Mode.
Fantastic device.
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I agree with every word you wrote.
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I agree with every word you wrote.
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Having read through the XP forum here, and then this thread, I felt some '1st Hand Heritage Sony User' experience and comprehension was required.
I also can attest that the fingerprint sensor on the XP is insanely faster then the z5c. Wasn't expecting it to be quite this responsive. Impresses on that front too.
Sony UI is second to the Nexus Line. That's a fact.
As good as Samsung's hardware is, there software is like a step backwards from Androids look/feel. Whereas Sony manage to keep the look/feel impressively Stock (replace Sony Launcher with Nova all day everyday, and I don't think you would notice much difference between a Nexus user experience and the Sony User' experience - again this is from my 1st hand experience.)
1 niggle I've noticed, actually since the z3 line, is that the WiFi signal has typically got poorer over longer distance from the WiFi router.
I can achieve a better WiFi signal on my z3c then I can on my z5c and XP.
This thread should be changed to 'Why wouldn't you buy the XP?' ?
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I've been a Sony Fanboy since the Release of the Xperia S, I owned the SP, the ZR bought the Z1 Compact as well and finally the Z3 Compact and I must say they did really well on those devices, especially the Z3 Compact. But looking at the X Performance, I think they're just trying too hard, the price tag to begin with doesn't even look welcoming at 700 Dollars for a phone without any fingerprint scanner, and the battery life isn't any good as well reading from numerous reviews which compares it to the previous flagship the Z5. For now I have my eyes set either on the S6 or the One M9, especially the M9. Those boomsound speakers sound better than Sony's speakers any time.
This is just my opinion tho, If coming from the Z3 Device line, stick with your Z3 and wait for newer models. The Z3 is by far one of the best Sony Z Line phones, stable, doesn't overheat and an active community to keep it going.
So true RE Z3 as the standout of all Sony's.
When it comes to a price war, then yes, the XP price is very overzealous. Can't argue there.
But i find when it comes to a User requiring the 3 points below (such as myself, typically coming from Sony's compact range):
1. Comfortable 1 handed ergonomics.
2. Up to date hardware
3. a Nexus like - look & feel (an unadulterated Android experience.)
Then I conclude the XP is at the forefront in this regard.
Personnel preferences as always ?
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