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Xperia V or Xperia Ion? I actually wanted the Xperia T, but in Singapore, they are not planning to sell the Xperia T. I currently hold the Xperia U. But was forced to change it as the screen was too small. Xperia Ion is oddly more expensive then the V, but I really want the screen estate. I'm also eyeing on the Optimum X4 but for some reason, I don't trust LG. The Optimum is a quad core and is way cheaper then the both, and have a IPS 4.7" screen. Advice please.

lee480 said:
Xperia V or Xperia Ion? I actually wanted the Xperia T, but in Singapore, they are not planning to sell the Xperia T. I currently hold the Xperia U. But was forced to change it as the screen was too small. Xperia Ion is oddly more expensive then the V, but I really want the screen estate. I'm also eyeing on the Optimum X4 but for some reason, I don't trust LG. The Optimum is a quad core and is way cheaper then the both, and have a IPS 4.7" screen. Advice please.
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Definitely go for the V, the CPU power alone can make you never come back to the old Xperia S or Ion. And stay away from LG.

lee480 said:
Xperia V or Xperia Ion? I actually wanted the Xperia T, but in Singapore, they are not planning to sell the Xperia T. I currently hold the Xperia U. But was forced to change it as the screen was too small. Xperia Ion is oddly more expensive then the V, but I really want the screen estate. I'm also eyeing on the Optimum X4 but for some reason, I don't trust LG. The Optimum is a quad core and is way cheaper then the both, and have a IPS 4.7" screen. Advice please.
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I do not have a V yet, but I have played with VL. I was amazed at the screen, it is the best I have ever seen, at some point, I thought it was printed! Anyway, the buttons on the ion is never sensitive enough, I would prefer onscreen buttons any day. 4G is a must in singapore, and think of the speed boast is a plus.
Just a sidenote, T does not fare well, even against the Ion. Ion does, in fact, is slightly better than T, due to the poor colour reproduction of the screen and the akward position of the buttons.
Here are my preferences.
V > TX > SGS3 > Ion > S> T > U

But Ion have a really beautiful screen. And large one too. The reason why im changing from U is because the screen is too small.

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Go for Xperia V although ion screen bigger...It's specs much better than Xperia ion.
Now already available in Singapore...And also it is dust and water proof...

this is from my perspective:
I wouldn't choose either. If you can hold it up till next year then do it.
The V, yes it has better specs and features than the ION, but its not all that great IMHO. The "flaps" is damn annoying, Ive owned Xperia S before and i hated it every single day. On top of that, 4.3 inch screen with virtual buttons? Sorry Im not a huge fan of getting phones with less than 4.5 inch screens. I am currently using Xperia TL, and damn with those virtual buttons it makes my screen look smaller than it should be.
The ION, specs are too outdated and on top of that who knows if it will get the updates after jelly bean. Better to be on the safe side. And yes, it does have a better screen than Xperia T. Both ION and Xperia T feels damn sturdy. Like rock solid, unlike the SG3.
Just saying~
PS: dont get the Optimus G, its horrible and yes the specs are the best in the market right now, but its LG. They have a long history of bad update procedures and stuff (built quality/software)??. In addition, they just ditches their flagship phones after 3 months or something. :/

LitoNi said:
this is from my perspective:
I wouldn't choose either. If you can hold it up till next year then do it.
The V, yes it has better specs and features than the ION, but its not all that great IMHO. The "flaps" is damn annoying, Ive owned Xperia S before and i hated it every single day. On top of that, 4.3 inch screen with virtual buttons? Sorry Im not a huge fan of getting phones with less than 4.5 inch screens. I am currently using Xperia TL, and damn with those virtual buttons it makes my screen look smaller than it should be.
The ION, specs are too outdated and on top of that who knows if it will get the updates after jelly bean. Better to be on the safe side. And yes, it does have a better screen than Xperia T. Both ION and Xperia T feels damn sturdy. Like rock solid, unlike the SG3.
Just saying~
PS: dont get the Optimus G, its horrible and yes the specs are the best in the market right now, but its LG. They have a long history of bad update procedures and stuff (built quality/software)??. In addition, they just ditches their flagship phones after 3 months or something. :/
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Thanks for your advice. I have a telecom voucher that ends very soon, two days from now, in fact. The flaps are to protect the Xperia V from nature though have no idea why the Xperia S have it. I guess I will go for the Xperia V. It's cheaper (S$40) and it's more future prove, plus LTE. And it's the bond phone haha.

Xperia v vs ion
hi bro, hopefully u have not bought the xperia v yet, i went to Singtel yesterday and tested the Xperia V with my ion.
1. The screen on the ion beats the Xperia V so much. Contrast so much better and deeper blacks on the Ion.
2. I have installed the Cybershot V4 and i compared the camera on both phones. Superior Auto on V and HDR auto on Ion, the xperia v's 13mp camera gave me a pic of 2.2mb photo size and the Ion 12Mp camera gave me a 2.95mb photo size . (Same Photo)
3. Yea, the ions lags slightly on CPU speed, but its very Minor.
3a. Yea, the onscreen buttons may seem not so responsive on the ion, but after all the firmware updates, all the touch screen Mods, its almost Perfect.
4. After looking at the outlook of the Xperia V, i found out that i prefer my Ion looks(Aluminium back) , although its slightly thicker. In fact i feel that Xperia Arc looks better then the V.
5. The screen is larger then the V.
6. Internal Storage is more then the V.

finoqq84 said:
hi bro, hopefully u have not bought the xperia v yet, i went to Singtel yesterday and tested the Xperia V with my ion.
1. The screen on the ion beats the Xperia V so much. Contrast so much better and deeper blacks on the Ion.
2. I have installed the Cybershot V4 and i compared the camera on both phones. Superior Auto on V and HDR auto on Ion, the xperia v's 13mp camera gave me a pic of 2.2mb photo size and the Ion 12Mp camera gave me a 2.95mb photo size . (Same Photo)
3. Yea, the ions lags slightly on CPU speed, but its very Minor.
3a. Yea, the onscreen buttons may seem not so responsive on the ion, but after all the firmware updates, all the touch screen Mods, its almost Perfect.
4. After looking at the outlook of the Xperia V, i found out that i prefer my Ion looks(Aluminium back) , although its slightly thicker. In fact i feel that Xperia Arc looks better then the V.
5. The screen is larger then the V.
6. Internal Storage is more then the V.
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It's too late
I choose the V. Thanks for your advice anyways. I agree with you that ion is one of the best HD screen Sony ever made. I went to the Xperia Store in j8 and there's a screen tearing lag in the ion. But the V is cheaper and more future prove.

[Q] Xperia T, TX or V?

I've been using the Xperia Ray for almost a year now, and before that I had a Mini Pro. I upgraded to the Ray because the Mini Pro's screen was too small and too low-res, and now I'm looking to upgrade from the Ray because I find I need more internal storage and more power. I don't play games or anything, but I frequently use apps like Instagram, Flickr, Flipboard, Dolphin Browser etc., and often my Ray breaks down when there's more data incoming that it can handle. Also, the internal memory is a joke. I do however love the high-ppi screen and the form factor.
Originally I didn't want to go larger than 4" with my next handset, but it seems you'll only get a decent screen when going 4.3" or bigger. Also, I'd like to stay with Sony as I just love their design and am so used to their UI (despite using Go Launcher on top of it.)
So, I narrowed it down to the late 2012 models T, TX and V. The Z is definitely too large for me, and the other current Xperia models don't do it specs-wise. Each of the three has something going for it, and for the life of me I can't decide which one to get. So if you can help me by pushing me in one or another direction, I'd greatly appreciate it
So here's my list of pros and cons for each handset. They all have 720 HD displays, which is great. I don't want to go with less resolution (qHD doesn't do it, it's not a significant step up from the Ray's 854x480 display.) They all feature the gorgeous Arc design which I love. However, there are some differences.
Xperia T
Pros:
- Moderate price, especially when bought used. (I live in Germany, btw.) Can be had from ~ € 250.
- By far the largest battery of the bunch, @ 1850 mAh. (I am used to charging once a day, though, and typically my phone will last well beyond the end of the day.)
Cons:
- No exchangeable battery.
- Side flap that covers microSIM and microSD slots could eventually break and get lost.
- 4.55" is a bit large for my taste. I held it and found it tough to operate with one hand.
- Screen reportedly not very good (as compared to other models).
- Awkward button layout.
Xperia TX
Pros:
- Slightly silmmer profile than the T, which makes it look a lot nicer.
- Better button layout.
- Reportedly the best screen of the bunch.
- Placement of the screen makes it look more balanced (T has it more to the top).
- Xperia logo lights up (okay, this is a gimmick, but I love it )
- Exchangeable battery.
- Back cover offers better protection for microSIM and microSD.
Cons:
- Only 1750 mAh battery, but the difference to the T isn't that big.
- Higher price as it cannot be bought used over here. ~ € 350 upwards.
- Slightly wider and larger than the T, plus the 4.55" screen which I find just a tad too large.
Xperia V
Pros:
- Smaller than both the T and TX due to the 4.3" screen, so this could be closer to my preferred size.
- IP55/57 water and dust proof. This phone could last years.
- Offers LTE, should I ever upgrade my carrier or my contract.
Cons:
- Don't like the design of the front as much as that of the TX, especially the lack of Xperia logo at the bottom.
- Pretty steep price at least at the moment. Lowest online price somewhere around € 400. May drop once used units get on the market.
- Only 8 GB of internal memory, although that would probably suffice as I'll be using it with a 32 GB SD card anyway.
So there ya have it. All three have their pros and cons. Currently, my favourite is the TX, but that's mainly because I think it looks the best, and because it is said to have the best screen. The V however is a serious option due to its water- and dustproofing and the fact that it offers LTE. Doesn't look as nice as the TX though. The T ranks last on my list, mainly because the battery cannot be replaced, and because I think it looks bulky and unbalanced. The price however is ideal.
You see my dilemma? If I had money in spades, I'd probably get both the TX and V, try each for a while and then decide which one to keep. But as it is, I have to really justify shelling out that much money (even € 250 I consider a lot to spend for a phone.) While I am absolutely in love with the TX's looks, I'm debating whether the T may not be the more rational choice, or if I shouldn't get the V which has LTE and is water- and dust-proof when I'm spending that much money.
What would you do in my place? Which one should I get? Also, those of you who own any of the three, what are your experiences? Do you love yours, or would you rather have one of the other two models?
Thanks a bunch in advance for your help!
P.S.: Root-ability is also important. Are there any differences between the three devices in that regard?

Same dilemma that I had for about 2 weeks. Previous phones included arc s and Xperia s. I was stuck between V and Tx, t was definitely out of the picture, weird design and button layout. Look is very important to me.
Knocked down to v or tx, went with tx because it supported bands for us, if v had supported bands in the US, would have gotten that instead. Love the size of the v, just perfect.
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Lusterboi said:
Same dilemma that I had for about 2 weeks. Previous phones included arc s and Xperia s. I was stuck between V and Tx, t was definitely out of the picture, weird design and button layout. Look is very important to me.
Knocked down to v or tx, went with tx because it supported bands for us, if v had supported bands in the US, would have gotten that instead. Love the size of the v, just perfect.
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Thanks for your reply!
I just handled the T once more, and 4.6" is definitely too large for me to operate comfortably with one hand.
So, since TX and V are the same price for me, and V is 4.3" plus better specs, it's probably going to be that one.

ive been agonizing over the same dilemma for 2 days. i live in USA, so none are available for me (besides for TL - yech!!)
V looks the best but is impossible to get hold of for good price. i ended up buying the T (import from ireland!) then read about the crappy screen and bought the TX also. waiting for both to arrive so i can make my own decision. will update with my opinion when i test them both out.

i stock between v & tx....i want better camera & better display?which one is good for me?

TX has better front camera and bigger screen display..

I bought a Xperia V a couple days ago- really like it. Mugen Power makes a 3600 mah battery for the V, shipping at the end of march- I plan to pick one up!

Eason85 said:
I bought a Xperia V a couple days ago- really like it. Mugen Power makes a 3600 mah battery for the V, shipping at the end of march- I plan to pick one up!
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That's terrific! Thanks for the info!
I handled a V yesterday, albeit only a dummy. But the size is perfect for me, and I really like its look and feel.
I'd still like to handle a working unit first, but I'm pretty much sold already.

Uh-oh. Now the new Xperia SP got me thinking ... Same price, no sealing but better hardware and considerably larger battery. What do you guys think about V vs. SP?

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vonotny said:
Uh-oh. Now the new Xperia SP got me thinking ... Same price, no sealing but better hardware and considerably larger battery. What do you guys think about V vs. SP?
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for me i`d keep insisting on getting TX! =D this phone in terms of design and screen i dunno its for me the best phone in 1 or 2 years totaly in love with it <3

Tinup93 said:
for me i`d keep insisting on getting TX! =D this phone in terms of design and screen i dunno its for me the best phone in 1 or 2 years totaly in love with it <3
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I agree, the TX is definitely the best looking of the bunch.

vonotny said:
I agree, the TX is definitely the best looking of the bunch.
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Maybe.. but there is a small price you have to pay: delayed firmware updates.
I think the SP would be a better choice. Its a much newer device with many more features. (although lacking a few things)

I am also considering Xperia V or Xperia SP, but also Acro S is still in the pipe, for a much better price. Currently specs are best on V for me (size matters a lot), as it has a good screen, dimensions, fast processor, replacable battery...just missing camera button and bigger internal memory...besides a lot of SoD with V are making me nervous...
Unfortunately there is no device that has all those nice Sony features all together:
size of V (width of 65mm is also not very small!)
IP57 - water/dust proof
glove mode
wet finger tracking
sensor-on-lens & Bravia Engine
nice LED stripe (like in SP!)
>2300mAh replacable battery
Dual Core Krait (like V/SP, better SP)
8MP Exmor RS image sensor
dedicated camera button and current power button
I am just wondering when the first real outdoor device will come (real powerfull battery, transflective display, barometer etc)

tobsnyder said:
I am also considering Xperia V or Xperia SP, but also Acro S is still in the pipe, for a much better price. Currently specs are best on V for me (size matters a lot), as it has a good screen, dimensions, fast processor, replacable battery...just missing camera button and bigger internal memory...besides a lot of SoD with V are making me nervous...
Unfortunately there is no device that has all those nice Sony features all together:
size of V (width of 65mm is also not very small!)
IP57 - water/dust proof
glove mode
wet finger tracking
sensor-on-lens & Bravia Engine
nice LED stripe (like in SP!)
>2300mAh replacable battery
Dual Core Krait (like V/SP, better SP)
8MP Exmor RS image sensor
dedicated camera button and current power button
I am just wondering when the first real outdoor device will come (real powerfull battery, transflective display, barometer etc)
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Don't go for the Acro S. It's an old device. Never go for an old device no matter how worth the money it is because you will be frustrated with updates. I am pretty sure the Acro S received its last/one-before-the-last update. (because Sony support period is a little short). Go for the V then.
As for a real outdoor device, I doubt Sony would come up with something like that because the general public would not really care for such features.

I guess my decision will depend on which device will be cheaper once the SP is available.
I prefer the V for styling, screen size and sealing, but the SP for hardware and battery.
Oh, and that LED strip ... so damn sexy ...

Just got my T. for all the complaints about TX being nicer...... the T is a gorgeous phone, i actually like its slighter thicker build, gives it a better feel in the hand. the screen sucks though. very washed out. I guess you cant have everything.......

Ha! Good thing I waited a little longer and didn't pull the trigger on the V so quickly! Found a practically unused one with almost full 24 months German warranty on the bay, for the same price as the lowest online price for a new one with 12 months UK warranty. So happy! Can't wait for it to arrive. Also, since it was bought in Germany, chances are it will have the good display. Will report back once I received it.

tobsnyder said:
I am also considering Xperia V or Xperia SP, but also Acro S is still in the pipe, for a much better price. Currently specs are best on V for me (size matters a lot), as it has a good screen, dimensions, fast processor, replacable battery...just missing camera button and bigger internal memory...besides a lot of SoD with V are making me nervous...
Unfortunately there is no device that has all those nice Sony features all together:
size of V (width of 65mm is also not very small!)
IP57 - water/dust proof
glove mode
wet finger tracking
sensor-on-lens & Bravia Engine
nice LED stripe (like in SP!)
>2300mAh replacable battery
Dual Core Krait (like V/SP, better SP)
8MP Exmor RS image sensor
dedicated camera button and current power button
I am just wondering when the first real outdoor device will come (real powerfull battery, transflective display, barometer etc)
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Here's what my suggestion is. Go for the Z to get waterproof. The flaps on the V don't last long. Go for the Xperia V for waterproof and size. However keep in mind that the V flaps aren't as strong as Z. Xperia SP is definitely the best to go if you're looking for good performance + better portability. Overall, all these devices are great. It depends on what you are using it for. Also don't get the Acro S. Never buy a phone that is old. You'll miss out many updates.

The XperiaT is a good choice to buy? If you wouldnt have that phone now would you buy it again? Are you happy with it?

Just go for Xperia T and that's it.

Sony Xperia Z Ultra! What Do You Think?

CPU Quad-core 2.2 GHz Krait 400 :laugh::good::good: Holy ****
GPU Adreno 330 (Gaming As Never Experienced Before )
1080 x 1920 pixels, 6.4 inches (~344 ppi pixel density)
microSD, up to 64 GB
Internal- 16 GB, 2 GB RAM
8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus
Android OS, v4.2 (Jelly Bean)
Chipset- Qualcomm MSM8274 or MSM8974 Snapdragon 800
Someone Tell me should i buy it or should i buy some car? :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Good CPU
Same GPU than Xperia Z
Worst Camera resolution than than Xperia Z
Screen too large
Globally same specs than the than Xperia Z
Only a big screen with a a new CPU and a worst Camera...kinda useless.

Too big

Good,but if it has LED Flash & Camera button & 5.44" instead of 6.44" would be better...
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Not water resistant?
Im very happy with z even though I'm locked into a 24month contract I pretty sure it will fulfill my needs
Always new models coming out so you kinda expect it so soon
Look at the S4 active for example I bet a few S4 owner's are annoyed lol
The ultra does look nice like all.Sony product's I wonder how tough it is?
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gius321 said:
CPU Quad-core 2.2 GHz Krait 400 :laugh::good::good: Holy ****
GPU Adreno 330 (Gaming As Never Experienced Before )
1080 x 1920 pixels, 6.4 inches (~344 ppi pixel density)
microSD, up to 64 GB
Internal- 16 GB, 2 GB RAM
8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus
Android OS, v4.2 (Jelly Bean)
Chipset- Qualcomm MSM8274 or MSM8974 Snapdragon 800
Someone Tell me should i buy it or should i buy some car? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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it s not too big
it s just t.oO tall
cpu and gpu and display tech improved But another thing not improved and even get worse so technically it s not better than Z and ZL except 6.4" display

A large size of screen makes it's ppi less than xperia z .....

too big like a beast. doesnt worth to buy it.. 7inch tablet would be better

sahinz said:
too big like a beast. doesnt worth to buy it.. 7inch tablet would be better
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It's half and inch smaller than a 7" tablet , so the device is the same size approximatly the same size as the Nexus 7 screen. Your logic is a little flawed.
This device is a 7" Tablet competitor.

defsix said:
It's half and inch smaller than a 7" tablet , so the device is the same size approximatly the same size as the Nexus 7 screen. Your logic is a little flawed.
This device is a 7" Tablet competitor.
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It is. The only problem with that is most phone functions still require the device to be held in Portrait. LIke the dialer for instance. With a device this big, however, it becomes impossible to hold Portrait with one hand (Unless you are Lebron James).
I had a Huawei Ascend Mate, and it just would not fit in my hand in Portait. More than 1/2 of the body was above my fingertips making it dangerous to hold. It kept leaning forward, about to fall out of my hand.
Now, if you accept it as a Tablet, and just know that you will pretty much NEVER be able to use it with one hand, I guess you would enjoy it. Just give up all those things you are accustomed to doing with your phone with one hand. You know, like calling people!

stiffi2011 said:
It is. The only problem with that is most phone functions still require the device to be held in Portrait. LIke the dialer for instance. With a device this big, however, it becomes impossible to hold Portrait with one hand (Unless you are Lebron James).
I had a Huawei Ascend Mate, and it just would not fit in my hand in Portait. More than 1/2 of the body was above my fingertips making it dangerous to hold. It kept leaning forward, about to fall out of my hand.
Now, if you accept it as a Tablet, and just know that you will pretty much NEVER be able to use it with one hand, I guess you would enjoy it. Just give up all those things you are accustomed to doing with your phone with one hand. You know, like calling people!
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I stand under you completely, (My Z dialer works in landscape BTW) , I think even Sony see this issue with the Z Ultra too, that is why it is been advertised with the SBH52 Headset/Mini Phone . Sometimes even the Z is a little too big for my liking, it doesn't fit on some of my pockets when i sit down etc., there is no chance an Ultra Z is going to fit
But it still looks an incredible device, i'm sure there is a market for it if they made it !

stiffi2011 said:
It is. The only problem with that is most phone functions still require the device to be held in Portrait. LIke the dialer for instance. With a device this big, however, it becomes impossible to hold Portrait with one hand (Unless you are Lebron James).
I had a Huawei Ascend Mate, and it just would not fit in my hand in Portait. More than 1/2 of the body was above my fingertips making it dangerous to hold. It kept leaning forward, about to fall out of my hand.
Now, if you accept it as a Tablet, and just know that you will pretty much NEVER be able to use it with one hand, I guess you would enjoy it. Just give up all those things you are accustomed to doing with your phone with one hand. You know, like calling people!
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Sheesh... calm down. Not everyone have small hands. It's completely possible to hold it in portrait by using one hand. I got Galaxy Note 2 and I could easily hold it in one hand and when I rest it in my palm, it fit with big room to spare, enough room for me to fit my WT19i device. It's all about user preferences. Some people like small phone, but some like me like big phones. Just stop bashing this phone because of its size, okay?

You Are Right Guys... No Worth Of Buying It...
It's Just Sony's & Samsung's Game... I Can Tell That Xperia Z/ZL Is The Best Phone And No Need Any Other Phone Because You Can Do Everything With Z/ZL ... Maybe In 2020 There Will Be 3.6 GHZ 4Core , Bravia Engine 20 Phones With 1TB Drive But There is No Need... GS4 Is Better (Benchmark Results) But What Can Be Done With It , Also Can Be Done With XZL... Xperia Z is Just perfect and I HATE SAMSUNG... !!!

should i get the Z or Z1?

im upgrading from the S3 to a Z1 this holiday season, mainly because of the water proofing. Before my S3 i had a SE Xperia Arc S and i miss the quality of Sony. My wife on the other hand has an Xperia U and she wants a bigger phone, her favourite colour is purple and the only phones Sony has in purple are the Z and Z1.
the Xperia Z is at a reasonable price right now and has just about all the great features as the Z1, but is there anything that im missing that are different with the two phones? I really dont want her to be disappointed with the Z when she see's my Z1 is better, she's not a very tech person, will she notice any differences compared to my soon to be Z1?

The Z1 is about 20% faster then the Z.
There is no flap to cover the headphone jack on the Z1, so if you like to listen a lot of music with headphones I would suggest you go for the Z1.
The water proofiness is also a tad better on the Z1

midego said:
The Z1 is about 20% faster then the Z.
There is no flap to cover the headphone jack on the Z1, so if you like to listen a lot of music with headphones I would suggest you go for the Z1.
The water proofiness is also a tad better on the Z1
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how annoying is the flap on the Z to remove every time to plug in a headphones?

Avantiel said:
how annoying is the flap on the Z to remove every time to plug in a headphones?
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I found it pretty annoying, that is why I bought the Z1 when it came out and did my Z away.
And I love the magnetic charger, I never have to open any flap anymore

I had the Z, had to get it repaired twice and finally returned it because the back glass kept coming unglued. I may have been unfortunate and gotten a bad device (and then bad repairs I guess) but it is a widespread issue with that device (see here) so keep that in mind if you decide to get that one.
The Xperia Z1 feels much more sturdy than the Z and it features longer battery life even though it's faster.
The purple on the Xperia Z looks nicer than the purple on the Xperia Z1 though

well , the Z1 has much faster CPU , better Camera , louder speaker , better display , and the most important thing that u'll really miss it even if u compare with the S3 is the 3000mAh battery !
the Z has got a bad battery , however , its thinner and lighter .

Libyan Man said:
well , the Z1 has much faster CPU , better Camera , louder speaker , better display , and the most point that u'll really miss it even if u compare with the S3 is the 3000mAh battery !
the Z has got a bad battery , however , its thinner and lighter .
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I wouldn't necessarily say the Xperia Z has a bad battery, but the Xperia Z1 has certainly got a better one. The Xperia Z is fast enough for 90% of people, and while I notice the difference, it's not like I perceive it as some ridiculous speed boost. Same with the display, the Xperia Z is pretty much on par with the Xperia Z1 I think, perhaps the colours are a little clearer in the Z1, but the Xperia Z is by no means a bad device.
Loudspeaker and camera are much better on the Z1.
Both are good choices, providing you don't get any trouble with the back glass on the Xperia Z that is.

Rekoil said:
I wouldn't necessarily say the Xperia Z has a bad battery, but the Xperia Z1 has certainly got a better one. The Xperia Z is fast enough for 90% of people, and while I notice the difference, it's not like I perceive it as some ridiculous speed boost. Same with the display, the Xperia Z is pretty much on par with the Xperia Z1 I think, perhaps the colours are a little clearer in the Z1, but the Xperia Z is by no means a bad device.
Loudspeaker and camera are much better on the Z1.
Both are good choices, providing you don't get any trouble with the back glass on the Xperia Z that is.
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everyone has got his own opinion , i've had the 2 devices and i really recognize these things , i think you are an Xperia Z owner or u still love it actually
u said 90% of people how or where did got that percentage bro ? are comparing SD S4 with SD 800!! are you serious ? for that i'll say just full up ur Z with apps , games and other media files , lose RAM , then watch it !

Libyan Man said:
everyone has got his own opinion , i've had the 2 devices and i really recognize these things , i think you are an Xperia Z owner
u said 90% of people how or where did got that percentage bro ? are comparing SD S4 with SD 800!! are you serious ? for that i'll say just full up ur Z with apps , games and other media files , lose RAM , then watch it !
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I was an Xperia Z owner yes, now I have the Xperia Z1, and I'm telling you that for the price difference currently between the two devices (presuming you get a good Z where the back glass doesn't fall off) it is a tough call if you're not a mobile phone enthusiast.
The Snapdragon S4 (APQ8064: Krait 200) is still a very good processor which is why they based the Snapdragon 800 (MSM8974: Krait 400) on the same platform. They actually are very similar, the 800 is just clocked faster, has better power management, better WLAN, better graphics, USB3 and better image processing. Honestly both provide fluid UIs and a very good user experience.

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I was an Xperia Z owner yes, now I have the Xperia Z1, and I'm telling you that for the price difference currently between the two devices (presuming you get a good Z where the back glass doesn't fall off) it is a tough call if you're not a mobile phone enthusiast.
The Snapdragon S4 (APQ8064: Krait 200) is still a very good processor which is why they based the Snapdragon 800 (MSM8974: Krait 400) on the same platform. They actually are very similar, the 800 is just clocked faster, has better power management, better WLAN, better graphics, USB3 and better image processing. Honestly both provide fluid UIs and a very good user experience.
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hmm the only thing that i can agree with you is the price , the SD S4 CPU is an end of generation , the architecture are different bro ! you comparison is not fair because the S4 Pro cant even rich the Snapdragon 600 ! it only beat the Snapdragon 200 .

Libyan Man said:
hmm the only thing that i can agree with you is the price , the SD S4 CPU is an end of generation , the architecture are different bro ! you comparison is not fair because the S4 Pro cant even rich the Snapdragon 600 ! it only beat the Snapdragon 200 .
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The S4 Pro (Cortex-A9 with Adreno 320) is better than 200 and 400 (as those are Cortex-A7 based and feature at best Adreno 305 graphics), not 600 or 800.
But that isn't my point. My point is that S4 Pro is good enough. We don't need anything faster.
Also the Snapdragon 600 and 800 do not feature true Cortex-A15 processors if that is what you were referring to when you said they are different architectures. They borrow some power saving innovations (by increasing efficiency) from A15 sure, but they are mostly A9's, not true A15.
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[Q] Xperia SP Or Galaxy s4 mini?

Which one will be best? I want to buy one, but i'm in confuse about which one will be best. I saw that s4mini battery capacity is not so good, but configurations are awesome, SP also awesome. But still in confuse. Anyone there to suggest me please?

Screen size should dictate. If you want a bigger screen go for the sp if not the s4m is a tidy phone.
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if you like touchwiz ui go for the s4 mini otherwise having it is like hell becuz of the confusing software otherwise go for the sp if you want the cool led on the bottom otherwise their both about the same

If you want:
- 768MB of usable RAM
- 5GB of USB/APP Install space (and want to use mods made for other phones to see if they match yours) a.k.a. no one cares about Xperia SP
- Mediocre MHL @ 720p
- Non physical navigation bar keys, but virtual ones that take up space and make every application look squished or weird.
- Non removable battery (if it dies, your phone dies with it)
- Washed out screen colors.
- Non official support of 64GB MicroSD cards.
Then the Xperia Sp is for you. I'm more than annoyed with it. Shoudl've waited for another phone, and the locked bootloader is horrible too.
This is my personal experience, and I've had used previously
- UMI X1 (Mediatek Dual-core with 1GB of RAM)
- Galaxy S2 (best so far, but Samsung's warranty policy in my country sucks)
- Motorola Atrix "4G" (no updates)
- LG Optimus 3D
Good luck.

i would actually recommend the moto g or x

What about Xperia ZR?
+Quad Core CPU
+2GB of RAM
+Better Display than SP one (More contrast and better viewing angles,- not good as an IPS panel-, but still Its fine)*
+Removable Battery
+Waterproof
-VGA Front facing camera
-8GB of Internal Storage
-Some Bugs
*Note: You should check and compare the screen with another ZR, due the screen lottery

- 768MB of usable RAM
4.3 has 860mb
- 5GB of USB/APP Install space (and want to use mods made for other phones to see if they match yours) a.k.a. no one cares about Xperia SP
Samsung has much more bloat in their firmwares. It's the most bloated android firmware. I don't know how the second part of that is related to the first point, but there are tons of mods made for the sp exclusively or 2013 xperia models
- Mediocre MHL @ 720p
S4 mini isn't even 720p. Its 540x960
- Non physical navigation bar keys, but virtual ones that take up space and make every application look squished or weird.
Android doesn't squish applications. Android AOSP is made for the virtual buttons too and Google keeps pushing the virtual buttons through android updates and their nexus devices
- Non removable battery (if it dies, your phone dies with it)
Anyone with a minimum of knowledge in fixing electrical devices can replace the batteries. There's a SP mechanical guide that explains how to replace the battery with pictures and you can buy the battery itself from stellatech
- Washed out screen colors
True
- Non official support of 64GB MicroSD cards.
Probably not true as I've seen 64gb cards on the sp. But I don't know. Well it has support anyway, just "not official"
- Then the Xperia Sp is for you. I'm more than annoyed with it. Shoudl've waited for another phone, and the locked bootloader is horrible too.
I'm pretty happy with it, coming from a mid range Samsung device its 50x better
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Thanks everyone.
Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I think SP will be better for me , so I decided to buy SP

ishon said:
Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I think SP will be better for me , so I decided to buy SP
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Think again... Had both S4 mini and now SP, but would go for S4 mini (9195 as it has LTE). The S4 mini is more fluid and smoother with no laggs or screen issues. But can't blame SP, when it works does the job...

ishon said:
Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I think SP will be better for me , so I decided to buy SP
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Perfect decision dude....ul njoy it....
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aspot72 said:
Think again... Had both S4 mini and now SP, but would go for S4 mini (9195 as it has LTE). The S4 mini is more fluid and smoother with no laggs or screen issues. But can't blame SP, when it works does the job...
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xp has lte and doesnt have laggy touchwiz, i too have had both

josuemf said:
If you want:
- Non official support of 64GB MicroSD cards.
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What!? Xperia SP support 64GB SD cards? How?

I would say dont get the SP because of the horrible development
this phone doesnt have a single stable rom

SP. because you're in sp thread. ahah

aliiahmed.20 said:
I would say dont get the SP because of the horrible development
this phone doesnt have a single stable rom
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Lol you do a better rom then! Besides there's plenty of Roms ok for daily use if installed correctly, I use eXistenZ.
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Xperia SP
Sony Xperia SP VS Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini
Display: 720 x 1280 pixels, 4.6 inches (~319 ppi pixel density) VS 540 x 960 pixels, 4.3 inches (~256 ppi pixel density)
Internal Memory: 8 GB (5.8 GB user available) + Micro SD VS 8 GB (5 GB user available) + Micro SD
RAM: 1 GB RAM VS 1.5 GB RAM
Processor: Qualcomm MSM8960T Snapdragon Dual-core 1.7 GHz Krait VS Qualcomm MSM8930 Snapdragon 400 Dual-core 1.7 GHz Krait
GPU: Adreno 320 VS Adreno 305
Battery: Li-Ion 2370 mAh battery VS Li-Ion 1900 mAh battery
Camera1: 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash VS 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Camera2: VGA VS 1.9 MP
Video: [email protected], video stabilization VS [email protected]
SP have better GPU, better battery, better display resolution, better general quality.
S4 Mini have better RAM and better secondary camera
And, FOR ME, Xperia SP is most beautiful, less expensive, best build quality, aluminum frame (non-plastic) and… he is different than most common phones ... it has status, personality, presence, elegance ... is a Sony ....
But, S4 Mini, is a great phone too…

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xp has lte and doesnt have laggy touchwiz, i too have had both
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S4 mini has also LTE (9195 version) and TW can be replaced with Google Now or other launcher.
My SP must be faulty...
Experiencing these issues :
screen unresponsive very often
many apps crashes or FC
very laggy UI - apps or keyboard take 10 seconds to work...
Like the SP but if these issues will continue just going back to Samsung or Motorola...

aspot72 said:
S4 mini has also LTE (9195 version) and TW can be replaced with Google Now or other launcher.
My SP must be faulty...
Experiencing these issues :
screen unresponsive very often
many apps crashes or FC
very laggy UI - apps or keyboard take 10 seconds to work...
Like the SP but if these issues will continue just going back to Samsung or Motorola...
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I have none of the above, my phone is the best I've had
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ishon said:
Which one will be best? I want to buy one, but i'm in confuse about which one will be best. I saw that s4mini battery capacity is not so good, but configurations are awesome, SP also awesome. But still in confuse. Anyone there to suggest me please?
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Sp is competing with the Z series phones.. so discussing r thinking abt s4 mini is a waste of time

arhun said:
Sp is competing with the Z series phones.. so discussing r thinking abt s4 mini is a waste of time
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Completely true....
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