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[Q] Xperia SP vs Galaxy S3 Real Life comparisson

Basically this thread is specifically towards previous owners of Galaxy S3, that are now owners of Xperia SP, or people who have both and can have a "real" comparisson rather than a bunch of review sites that give too much into details, that dont affect you most of the time.
Battery life is completely subject to how you use your device, if it is unlocked with a custom kernel etc etc, so this doesn't really matter since both are around the same battery stats.
Benchmarks etc. This is again useless since one has 4 cores that are older than the 2 cores of the SP. Again these are dependant on how the HW is used and in what way.
Photos. I am not a instagram user, and I dont think i ever had more than 100 pics on any of my phones.
So... The questions that really bug me.
Are the soft keys on the Xperia SP (home, back, menu) an annoyance when playing games, texting, browsing etc.? I found myself pressing all of those on my Xperia Active several times and it pissed me off. I expect this to be less of a hassle on the S3 given the fact that its only got 2 soft keys and they are all beyond the screen.
Is sunlight legibility on both up to par? If not, which one is better? I could go with a matte screen protector but that screws up the colors a bit.
The reason im leaning more to the S3 is the already huge development scene on it, and the immense number of accessories for it, whereas for most Sony devices the Cases etc are very limited. P.S. im very clumsy, even the Active fell lots of times but never actually broke.
So, for the owners or long time users of BOTH devices, which one is better for you? Would you go back to the S3? Or are you more than happy with the SP?

I personally played around with both for quite some time, and they are both good phones.
The s3 has a slightly better sound quality and camera, although the build quality is atrocious. It has a smaller but removable battery, and a larger internal storage.
The xperia sp has a larger battery and much better build quality, although the camera is not great. I really like the light strip.
Both devices have similar performance, although the galaxy s3 has a laggy gallery.
I would say go for whichever is cheaper. The xperia sp is however released later so maybe longer support from Sony?
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Both phones have very reflective screens, which means you can't really see anything on both on a sunny day.
Never had a problem with soft keys, neither typing nor gaming is affected. I play nfs, asphalt and modern combat.
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I am currently using Xperia SP and my Big Bro is using galaxy s3 and we usually compare both the device in everything.
I can say that Xperia SP is a fairly good device but S3 is also a very good device for the price at which it is offered in the country today. S3 scores above Xperia SP in following things:
>Fairly better screen and viewing angles than X SP (super AmOled)
>Marginally Better battery backup
>16gb internal memory for apps and games (X SP has Half)
>much better camera, both front and back (has video call too)
In real life, i consider SGS3 can be a good option if budget can go for that.
Looks of X SP is also not that good but imo better than sgs3

Thanks for both of your inputs.
I went for the SP in the end. Battery Backup is very very very subjective to if you have it rooted, how you use it etc. I couldn't give a flying about the FFC, since I never do video calls
So, depending on some key factors regarding on what is what when you unlock the bootloader, you might be seeing the (SP)artan Rom soon enough...
Mods, you can close the thread. My questions have been answered.

dumraden said:
Thanks for both of your inputs.
I went for the SP in the end. Battery Backup is very very very subjective to if you have it rooted, how you use it etc. I couldn't give a flying about the FFC, since I never do video calls
So, depending on some key factors regarding on what is what when you unlock the bootloader, you might be seeing the (SP)artan Rom soon enough...
Mods, you can close the thread. My questions have been answered.
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SO finally u bought Xperia SP..
For how much did u get?

Got it sorta pricey, but I due to my recent problems with the Xperia Active, I decided to get it from here. It cost 360 Euros. I could find it in the UK for around 300, but then if something went wrong, I would have to pay 30 euros every time it had to go and come back to me from Greece to the UK.
First impressions are nice, I really like the floating touch. But i need to get used to it And yes, the soft keys do not get in the way, because the fingers kind of arch over them when you have it on landscape.

I am going to return back my SP to the dealer ( My Friend ) and going for S3. I dont know y but i love S3. After using SP for three days i decided to buy S3... I am a big gamer.. Can i really go for S3.? And 4.2.2 update for S3 is on d way i think.. Any advice From Any Old S3 user ? Pls ...

I think your question is in the wrong section completely Try looking in the S3 phone section.

rajeevxperia said:
I am going to return back my SP to the dealer ( My Friend ) and going for S3. I dont know y but i love S3. After using SP for three days i decided to buy S3... I am a big gamer.. Can i really go for S3.? And 4.2.2 update for S3 is on d way i think.. Any advice From Any Old S3 user ? Pls ...
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If you care about gaming xperia sp is a better choice becouse the adreno 320 is way better than mali 400. Current gamesrun well on both but think about the future my friend

IE-coRe said:
If you care about gaming xperia sp is a better choice becouse the adreno 320 is way better than mali 400. Current gamesrun well on both but think about the future my friend
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Thanks for the reply my friend. I wil go for S3 ( Some budget problem dude ) ..

rajeevxperia said:
Thanks for the reply my friend. I wil go for S3 ( Some budget problem dude ) ..
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Most games require only 2 cores, and the rumour about Key Lime Pie requiring quad core is just BS, as that will leave out the dual core Galaxy S3, all but 3 Xperias and the Nexus 10.
Nexus 10 owners will then be pissed that the nexus 7 guys who paid less will get KLP. Impossible on Google's part.

jasonwsc said:
Must games require only 2 cores, and the rumour about Key Lime Pie requiring quad core is just BS, as that will leave out the dual core Galaxy S3, all but 3 Xperias and the Nexus 10.
Nexus 10 owners will then be pissed that the nexus 7 guys who paid less will get KLP. Impossible on Google's part.
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U r correct. Me also heared that rumor. But i dont really care about future updates.. I will not keep any mobile more than a Year...

Which I want to choose: GS3 or XSP??
Guys, I love gaming and also watching movies.. I like to run apps.. But I confused in these 2 smartphones..
I have budget for these 2 phones..
But I hear that Xperia SP have a display defect..nd also in battry backup..
So i turnd to GS3. But I also here a news that the glass of GS3 will broken when it falls down..
Guys, here I'm a ltl bit confused..
Can u plz suggst me a gud phone frm these 2 smartfones???

jasonwsc said:
I personally played around with both for quite some time, and they are both good phones.
The s3 has a slightly better sound quality and camera, although the build quality is atrocious. It has a smaller but removable battery, and a larger internal storage.
The xperia sp has a larger battery and much better build quality, although the camera is not great. I really like the light strip.
Both devices have similar performance, although the galaxy s3 has a laggy gallery.
I would say go for whichever is cheaper. The xperia sp is however released later so maybe longer support from Sony?
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Both phones have very reflective screens, which means you can't really see anything on both on a sunny day.
Never had a problem with soft keys, neither typing nor gaming is affected. I play nfs, asphalt and modern combat.
Sent from my Xperia SP using xda premium
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According to Quadrant, 3D-mark and Antutu, and general percieved performance, the Adreno 320 is Faster than the Mali400 in the S3 and the Adreno 225 in the US S3,
Linpack shows approximately the Dual core Krait CPU with Double the CPU MFLOPs, compared to the slower Quad core Cortex A9 Exynos CPU in the S3.
but don't get me wrong, the S3 is still fast enpough to run any game out there at the moment.
Gone of Samsung, due to their Super Amoled screens and build quality.
as fo Not being able to see anything on the SP, dunno what your talking about, the screen is clearly much brighter than the Super Amoled screens and easily visible during Sunny days.
regards
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asman.kr said:
Guys, I love gaming and also watching movies.. I like to run apps.. But I confused in these 2 smartphones..
I have budget for these 2 phones..
But I hear that Xperia SP have a display defect..nd also in battry backup..
So i turnd to GS3. But I also here a news that the glass of GS3 will broken when it falls down..
Guys, here I'm a ltl bit confused..
Can u plz suggst me a gud phone frm these 2 smartfones???
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Both are good performing phones,
as for the defects you mention, never experienced any of them.
the SP lasts longer on standby, due to stamina mode and a bigger battery,
can't comment on the S3, but judging by the Superamoled screen it probably has a longer screen on time,
the Glass screen on any phone CAN break if it falls down from a height or onto a sharp or hard surface etc,
Manufacturers are yet to give us a Indestructable screen, :silly:
regards

I could either get the Xperia Sp for 0$ or get the S3 for 140$ through my carrier. I game a lot and the Adreno 320 is better than the Mali but, the support behind the S3 is much larger than the Sp. Which one should I get?

Leafs99 said:
I could either get the Xperia Sp for 0$ or get the S3 for 140$ through my carrier. I game a lot and the Adreno 320 is better than the Mali but, the support behind the S3 is much larger than the Sp. Which one should I get?
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Depends on what you want! i had to choose between these two phones as well i chose the xperia sp because of the build quality: metal vs plastic and performance wich is better then S3 I think the support behind this phone is reasonable with a soon upcoming 4.3 build

S3 without a second thought
S3 is a very high end phone which was released with an introductory price of above $600.
Samsung packed the best of its features into it.
It has won numerous awards and it was once the most bought android phone in the world.
The body of xperia sp is very tempting, but trust me, it is the internals that matter wayy more.
The back camera on the Xperia SP is very bad. The photos have noise, red-blue-greenish dots all around when zoomed. I clicked many photos myself on the mobile store. The 0.3 mp front camera is so horrible, that I'd rather not comment on it.
On the other hand, the back camera on the S3 is spectacular with no weak points to it. Superb clarity and there's no noise. The 1.9 MP front camera clicked some really beautiful shots.
The music quality on Xperia SP is good but not if you use walkman. The walkman's clearbass option increases the bass, however the volume of the sound is weirdly lowered at different points of the songs. This happens on all sony phones only. It's weird sony hasn't fixed it.
Use poweramp however, and you'll love all your songs.
The S3's sound quality is superb and it is an ideal phone for audiophiles. You can check the audio lab test results in this genuine GSMarena review -
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p8.php
The battery on my S3 is amazing. I dont know about xperia sp, but after hearing from my friends, it is equally good.
Gaming on the S3 is superb as well. I have never seen any of my games lag on the s3. Xperia SP's snapdragon cpu is also very much ideal for gaming.
So the decision is yours

Ram wise the S3 is better but then If Were you guys just sell your SP save up some cash and buy the Nexus 5 because it is clearly the better one here
but nonetheless SP is better than that older S3...don't get so tempted by that bigger SUPER LCD2 screen it runs on older ARM hardware compared to the newer krait architecture our devices have
GPU wise the SP is still better and besides sound could easily be improved by installing Viper4Android so its no big deal

[Q] Xperia SP Users, please I need your suggestion on buying SP

Hello everybody,
Actually I was planning to purchase new xperia device... according to my budget, I thought of going for Xperia SP.
The reason for this thread is .. Can I go for SP as I am getting it in 19000 INR from ebay.in.. It is worth to buy or should i go for ZR which is 8000 INR more than SP price..
Will SP be future proof for atleast a year and will it Honami style 4.3 update. or just a common 4.3 update.
What do you think guys please.. suggest me!!!
and about considering the problems SP users are facing.

I don't Know how much is this in €. But SP is a really good choice! Buy the SP!
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Test the Camera before by XSP. Picture size and quality is no more up to date. Not poor, but other devices (XS or HTC one) make better pictures. All other works great.

Value for money phone
Since I own a Xperia SP for more than 2 months now, following are my impressions. Since I am being critical I'll list negatives first.
Negatives:
Xperia SP's biggest weakness is its camera. Pictures in low light are very bad for its price... pictures in day light are ok, but nothing too good. Pictures taken by SP have more noise in them. So over all SP's camera is very much worse as compared to, say, Galaxy S3's.
The screen is not as good as Super Amoled screens of Samsung's Galaxy series or HTC's & LG's IPS LCD. However, while indoors you will not have any issue. While outdoors, the screen is a bit reflective but is still manageable. I haven't faced any other display issue till now.
Wi-fi reception is truly a bit weaker than other phones, but the internet speed is not affected. Only range is lesser.
Some people have encountered the touch issue when the phone is kept on a table & not in your palm. Some people have also faced a bit of trouble while the phone is plugged in for charging via AC adapter. However, I haven't faced any of these issues.
Positives:
The best part about SP is its performance. Snapdragon S4 Pro is simply a beast and Adreno 320 GPU blows the competition out of water. Current flagships of various brands like Xperia Z, ZL, ZR, HTC One and LG Optimus G Pro all have the same GPU.
SP has 1 GB RAM, which although is not equivalent to these flagships, is enough even for the heaviest of games/apps available in market. However, real racing 3 has some issues. Other games run very well.
Another plus point of SP is its build quality & design. It doesn't look cheap like Samsung GS3 or GS4. The illumination bar at the bottom is a very nice aspect of the design.
The battery performance of SP is one of the better ones.
When used with Bravia Engine 2, the display is awesome while indoors. It is sufficiently bright.
PRICE!!! A total value for money.
So, keeping all these in mind I would suggest:
If you are too much in cell phone photography, explore other mobiles. Galaxy S3 could be good choice in that case. Glaxy S4 mini and Nexus 4 are also there. However, all these cost slightly more than SP.
If 20K is your budget, then go for SP. You won't find a better phone at that price.
If you don't want even slightest of performance issue, surety of many more updates & have the extra budget then you can also give Xperia ZR a serious thought. It has a faster processor, more RAM & better camera in addition to being dust & waterproof. Battery life of ZR is even better than SP's.

Pretty much agree with the post from the_helix.
I think Sony have been clever with this device, they have taken away the things that average/practical users don't really care about.
Do you really need 400+ PPI, 1080p screen, a big internal memory if there's space for a memory card, more RAM etc? They have instead made sure that the processor is top notch, given it 4G and NFC - so you get almost flagship performance at half the price.
Yes some things could be better (there is always something to complain about - the S4 and HTC One are not immune from this either), but with a bigger screen and more robust build than the competition in this price range (the mini S4 and mini HTC One) I think this is the best mid-range phone on the market.
I think it's future proof - but within reason, some games developers always push the boundaries and make software that will only run really well on top devices. I think/hope it will see the next iteration of Android - is it really going to be called kit-kat?

hi,
purchased today my xperia sp in ebay.in. waiting for delivery. so now i being here for have a glance. iam biggest fan of sony till now i used four mobiles from sony, ( J230i, w810, x8, mini pro). and this is my fifth from sony. hope this mobile will meet my expectations. will join u later guys after getting my sp in hands. cheers!

Well guys, I finally ordered Xperia ZL. Thank you everybody for replies.....

session20 said:
Well guys, I finally ordered Xperia ZL. Thank you everybody for replies.....
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why bro? not satisfied with sp?

rajkumar85 said:
why bro? not satisfied with sp?
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nope....Actually, I got some extra money, so thought to go for ZL... for 27000 INR

rajkumar85 said:
why bro? not satisfied with sp?
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Good choice, the sp is just ****ed up!

XSP or HTC One X?

Hi guys,
Can you help me with this i can't decide if I should buy the htc one x or the xperia sp!
I heard from many people that the sp is blazing fast but still i can't choose the right phone it's a tough decision for me
any users that had an xperia sp and went to a htc one x or from one x to xperia sp?
The htc one x is 349 euros and the xperia sp is 325 euros
(btw htc one x only 16gb model available)
thanks,
noahvt

noahvt said:
Hi guys,
Can you help me with this i can't decide if I should buy the htc one x or the xperia sp!
I heard from many people that the sp is blazing fast but still i can't choose the right phone it's a tough decision for me
any users that had an xperia sp and went to a htc one x or from one x to xperia sp?
The htc one x is 349 euros and the xperia sp is 325 euros
(btw htc one x only 16gb model available)
thanks,
noahvt
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You can find Xperia Sp very cheap for about 250 euros.If you want to give more money buy one x and i think its better!
I bought my xperia sp for 230!New! with warranty 2 yrs!

If you are a gamer then it is the xperia sp for sure.
The SP uses the adreno 320 (same as the one used in the S4 and the HTC One) which is miles ahead of the ulp geforce used in the one x.
And the one x uses the tegra 3 chipset, which is nothing compared to the krait chip set of the SP
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Even in all the benchmarks the XSP scores a lot better. If you go for performance and more updates i advice XSP.
Also compare these features:
- No SD (HOX) VS SD (XSP)

mrjraider said:
Even in all the benchmarks the XSP scores a lot better. If you go for performance and more updates i advice XSP.
Also compare these features:
- No SD (HOX) VS SD (XSP)
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Thanks everyone i'm gonna get a XSP then

noahvt said:
Thanks everyone i'm gonna get a XSP then
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yeah
its way better than the HTC one X

I had written this on another website from where I purchased my SP. This may help.
-------- Xperia SP vs Galaxy S3 vs HTC One X/X+ ---------
1. Design: I just can't accept the design of S3. Few may like it, but most of you will agree with me. X is the best in looks with SP a close 2nd.
2. Ergonomics & Build: SP is the thickest & heaviest of the lot, but it is shortest in length & width making it easier to handle. The difference in size is significant between S3 & SP. In fact S3 is bigger than S4. Build quality for all three is very good.
3. Hardware: SP has the best processor & GPU & beats the other 2 hands down in benchmarks, gaming & web browsing etc. RAM is same for all. SP’s inbuilt memory is only 8 GB (5.3 GB user accessible).
4. Screen: All 3 have same resolution & great indoor performance. S3's super amoled & X's LCD2 easily beat SP in outdoors.
5. Camera: All 3 have 8 MP and decent "good light" performance. S3 is a clear winner due to better low light performance. SP is the worse in low lights which probably is due to bad software. Future updates might correct it. SP's front camera is VGA.
6. Software: SP comes with Jelly Bean whereas the other two were launched 1 year ago with Ice-cream Sandwich & are about to receive Jelly Bean. Nobody knows if X & S3 will get Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie. SP will surely get it as Sony is better in providing upgrades.
7. Battery: The most neglected aspect of a smartphone. SP outperforms both. Once you turn stamina mode on, it does even better. S3's battery is removable - a slight advantage. Check out the battery tests for all 3 on GSMarena.
8. Price: SP can be bought for about 23K outside whereas S3 will be around 27K, X+ about 29K. I am only listing X+ here as the Flipkart price for X (32 GB) is much higher than X+ (64 GB) which is stupidity. X (16 GB, no expandable storage) is not worth considering.
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I chose Xperia SP coz:
1. Design: The transparent LED makes the Xperia SP a real looker. Silver power button also adds to beauty. There are little gaps between the phone & back cover on few places, reducing a point.
9/10
2. Ergonomics & Build: The aluminium frame enhances the build & the rubburized plastic back cover improves the handling. On the front, the edges are a bit sharp for a phone reducing points.
8/10
3. Hardware: Xperia SP has the latest S4 processor & Adreno 320 GPU. The GPU is same as Xperia Z/ZL & HTC One & is the best in current mobiles. Resource hog games like Asphalt 7, Dead Trigger, Real Racing, GTA Vice City etc. work like a charm on SP. You can look up videos on youtube for it. Also, if you own a PS3 you can use its controller to play games on Xperia SP too. If you want to have too many big games on your phone at once, internal memory might be short.
9/10
4. Screen: Sp has really sharp 1280 * 720 p (HD) screen. Bright enough for indoors. However, in outdoors, the reflections from the screen are annoying. Viewing angles, though not as good as the other 2, still are good enough for a mobile which one mainly uses face on & not while keeping it tilted.
8/10.
5. Camera: Xperia SP gets the least points here due to all I wrote above. However SP takes nice pics in good lights & for low light condition like parties, better to use a digicam. Even Lumia 920's camera won’t excel in dark. The front VGA camera might be a helpful in reducing your 3G data charges due to low resolution.
7/10
6. Software: Jelly Bean is very sweet. Sony also has gone for the minimalist approach, which benefits SP's performance. For other apps the great Google Play is not far away.
10/10
7. Battery: The standby time of SP is not as good as its talktime, web browsing or video playback times, which are simply great. Also as the phone is 10 mm thick & the battery is non removable, a larger battery like 2600-2800 mAh would have been nice.
8.5/10
8. Price: 10/10
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Sony has delivered a masterpiece with Xperia SP. I am giving it 4/5 overall only due to 8 GB internal memory, bad main camera & VGA front camera. If any 2 out of these 3 aspects were better, I would have given 5/5. If you are more into gaming, web browsing, watching movies on your phone then go for it.
If you want a large collection of heavy HD games, give S3 or One X+ another thought. This is because Android 4.0 onward u can’t move the apps to SD card. Here Xperia SP's limited inbuilt storage might be a problem. Though you can always keep the songs, movies & default storage of camera on your SD card.
If camera is your ultimate goal then forget it, buy a cheap phone & get a nice digicam.
If you can stretch your budget, get Xperia ZR. It is water & dust poof, has 13MP, better processor & 2 GB RAM.

I got myself one
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I got myself one
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Good choice, I had the One X als replacement phone while my XSP was at the repair centre and the does the job way better.
Now go check out eagleeyetoms CM10.1 (29.10.2013) and flash that great rom on your phone and you will love it even more!!

Robin>Hood said:
Good choice, I had the One X als replacement phone while my XSP was at the repair centre and the does the job way better.
Now go check out eagleeyetoms CM10.1 (29.10.2013) and flash that great rom on your phone and you will love it even more!!
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I need help i want to root my device but for the latest firmware you need to flash a kernel so i installed flashtool and drivers and i rebooted my device into fastboot mode > the blue led goes on > windows 8 (64bit) says the device is not recognized > XSP reboots into charging mode
I can't get it to work please help me!

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I need help i want to root my device but for the latest firmware you need to flash a kernel so i installed flashtool and drivers and i rebooted my device into fastboot mode > the blue led goes on > windows 8 (64bit) says the device is not recognized > XSP reboots into charging mode
I can't get it to work please help me!
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Search for it on the forum here, it is a problem with USB (3.0) drivers and Windows 8... Or even better, use windows 7 to root and flash your phone. I run windows 8 on my MBA but I dont use my MBA when flashing my phone, win7 is the best option
This thread is about windows 8 usb problems (still I recommend win7 ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583801

Robin>Hood said:
Search for it on the forum here, it is a problem with USB (3.0) drivers and Windows 8... Or even better, use windows 7 to root and flash your phone. I run windows 8 on my MBA but I dont use my MBA when flashing my phone, win7 is the best option
This thread is about windows 8 usb problems (still I recommend win7 ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583801
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I have acces to a win7 laptop i'll try again

noahvt said:
I have acces to a win7 laptop i'll try again
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No thanks. Good luck.

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No thanks. Good luck.
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OK on windows 7 it stays in fastboot but still it reboots in flashmode i enable flashmode plug the device in the green light comes on and after 3sec it turns back of :'(

noahvt said:
OK on windows 7 it stays in fastboot but still it reboots in flashmode i enable flashmode plug the device in the green light comes on and after 3sec it turns back of :'(
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DUDE, search the forum!!! All the answers are on this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240614
Or at least be polite and say thanks lol

Xperia V or Xperia M2?

Hello ! First,im sorry if im not in right section.I coming from Galaxy S Advance subforum.Soon i will sell my Galaxy S Advance for like 100-120 euro,then i must collect more 100-150 euro to buy a sexy Sony Xperia M2 which will be released in April in shops with price like 200-289 euro.Im still wonder which to choose:
1)Xperia M2 :
-sexy and premium design
-4.8" screen
-snapdragon 400 quad core 1.2 Cortex A7
-adreno 305
-8 MP camera
-but not water and dust resistant (i wanted just water resistant)
2) Xperia V :
-sexy design too,but i like more design of M2
-4.3" screen ( its little small for me because that navigation bar in touch)
-13 MP camera
-MSM8960 Snapdragon Dual Core 1.5 GHz Krait
-Adreno 225
-water and dust resistant
-cool video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sabceviTlEE (0:11 look awesome)
I saw on internet that a Adreno 305 + a good processor its same with a dual processor + Adreno 225.I dont know if its right,but what i know its that both can run all games
Xperia that i want :
-screen size like M2
-design like M2
-gpu and processor like M2 or Xperia
- 8MP / 13MP camera
-i dont really want water and dust ressistant,but if it provide more health of phone i want it.
Its hard to choose between these two phones.I want suggestions.

I would go for the newer one.

maybe take a look on the hardware size also. not only screensize. so if you are fine with a 140mm height^^... then guess nothing speaks against the m2?
xperia m2: 139,6 x 71,1 x 8,6 mm / 4,8"
xperia V: 129 x 65 x 10.7 mm / 4,3"
xperia T: 129,4 x 67,3 x 9,35 mm / 4,55"
by the way, the XT has 4,55" screen with under 130mm height. no idea why the M2 is so big. i wouldnt buy a 4,8" phone with such dimensions
but that just my personal taste^^
T,V probably end with 4.3jb. who knows. not sure about the M2.
Also you should compare the camera reports in the net.
besides that, i guess the XM2 is a good phone, if you prefer the omnibalance design over arc design.
you should feel them in a shop.

Screen resolution on M2 is mediocre comparing to V or T or TX.

Force said:
Hello ! First,im sorry if im not in right section.I coming from Galaxy S Advance subforum.Soon i will sell my Galaxy S Advance for like 100-120 euro,then i must collect more 100-150 euro to buy a sexy Sony Xperia M2 which will be released in April in shops with price like 200-289 euro.Im still wonder which to choose:
1)Xperia M2 :
-sexy and premium design
-4.8" screen
-snapdragon 400 quad core 1.2 Cortex A7
-adreno 305
-8 MP camera
-but not water and dust resistant (i wanted just water resistant)
2) Xperia V :
-sexy design too,but i like more design of M2
-4.3" screen ( its little small for me because that navigation bar in touch)
-13 MP camera
-MSM8960 Snapdragon Dual Core 1.5 GHz Krait
-Adreno 225
-water and dust resistant
-cool video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sabceviTlEE (0:11 look awesome)
I saw on internet that a Adreno 305 + a good processor its same with a dual processor + Adreno 225.I dont know if its right,but what i know its that both can run all games
Xperia that i want :
-screen size like M2
-design like M2
-gpu and processor like M2 or Xperia
- 8MP / 13MP camera
-i dont really want water and dust ressistant,but if it provide more health of phone i want it.
Its hard to choose between these two phones.I want suggestions.
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Wait until Z2 is released and buy Z. It's water and dust resistant and a good phone. I'm sure you can buy it for less than 300 euros in April

immerblind said:
by the way, the XT has 4,55" screen with under 130mm height. no idea why the M2 is so big. i wouldnt buy a 4,8" phone with such dimensions
but that just my personal taste^^
besides that, i guess the XM2 is a good phone, if you prefer the omnibalance design over arc design.
you should feel them in a shop.
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I want big screen (not big than 5") because navigation bar will use my screen.I like very much design of M2.You are right: i better will feel them in a shop,but after i get enough money too
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Screen resolution on M2 is mediocre comparing to V or T or TX.
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This can change my opinion,it also have less ppi.
St.Jimmy90 said:
Wait until Z2 is released and buy Z. It's water and dust resistant and a good phone. I'm sure you can buy it for less than 300 euros in April
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Price depends on every country,and in Romania right now its 400-520 euros if im not wrong...And what worrie me at xperia Z its unremovable battery.
Now im wonder other things too: .
1.Whats difference between much and less ppi?
2.I searched on google but not so many results. A screen with 4.3",high resolution and high ppi its better than a screen 4.8" with low resolution and low ppi?
3.I saw somewhere on xda that xperia v (and others too or all if im not wrong) its sold with 3 variants of display: Sony,Sharp (something like this) and Toshiba (which is more bad than Sharp). How can i know if display its made by Sony when i go in a shop?
4.Noob question: Lets take M2 as e.g.If i change dpi resolution after i root it,will not be ok?Resolution from specs its not same with this one?
Xperia Z its perfect for me,but battery its unremovable and it worrie me. Also,its expansive in my country.Its still hard what to choose between M2 and V.

ppi - pixels per inch, aiming at ~300 is great, less becomes more grainy, more is overkill in sharpness. A 720p resolution screen at 4.3 inches (Xperia V) is 342ppi and a bit of an overkill in sharpness. Same resolution at 4.8 inches is 306ppi (Galaxy S3) and it's still sharp enough not to be grainy. Basically you're stretching pixels (making them bigger) with each added inch unless you increase resolution (and you cannot increase above max screen resolution).
1080p resolution at 5" inches is pretty pointless (consumes more power probably also, more pixels to display etc). At 7 inches it's pretty great, sitting at 323ppi (nexus 7 2013).
dpi is something else entirely.
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Personally, I'd probably pick Xperia V from those 2, mainly for the ppi. Xperia ZR would be ideal. Xperia Z would be the next choice.

If you can get a ZR for the same price as M2 then i would go for that instead. ZR is like the V. It's waterproof, slightly bigger screen, way better battery life and quad core snapdragon S4 with Adreno 300.
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sunlight10f said:
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Personally, I'd probably pick Xperia V from those 2, mainly for the ppi. Xperia ZR would be ideal. Xperia Z would be the next choice.
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Starlith said:
If you can get a ZR for the same price as M2 then i would go for that instead. ZR is like the V. It's waterproof, slightly bigger screen, way better battery life and quad core snapdragon S4 with Adreno 300.
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I dont want Xperia Z just because battery its unremovable.Xperia ZR its seem nice,as its have removable battery too and it is 400 euros here.Another question: how much inch will take navigation bar from 4.55"? How much left?

Force said:
I dont want Xperia Z just because battery its unremovable.Xperia ZR its seem nice,as its have removable battery too and it is 400 euros here.Another question: how much inch will take navigation bar from 4.55"? How much left?
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Navbar takes about 1cm of vertical screen size. Don't know the inch tho.
However, there are several apps and mods around that allow a smaller navbar. So don't worry too much about that
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WhiteNeo said:
Navbar takes about 1cm of vertical screen size. Don't know the inch tho.
However, there are several apps and mods around that allow a smaller navbar. So don't worry too much about that
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My last questions and i will decide
1.TFT screen its good?
2.Design of xperia v its like e.g. M2? I mean,its curved at frames or in top /bottom of phone?I cant make difference in picture.
3.I saw on some websites that waterproof its voided in warranty?Its true?
4.I saw somewhere on xda that xperia v (and others too or all if im not wrong) its sold with 3 variants of display: Sony,Sharp (something like this) and Toshiba (which is more bad than Sharp). How can i know if display its made by Sony when i go in a shop?
5.It have ambient light sensor?What about OTG?

Force said:
My last questions and i will decide
1.TFT screen its good?
2.Design of xperia v its like e.g. M2? I mean,its curved at frames or in top /bottom of phone?I cant make difference in picture.
3.I saw on some websites that waterproof its voided in warranty?Its true?
4.I saw somewhere on xda that xperia v (and others too or all if im not wrong) its sold with 3 variants of display: Sony,Sharp (something like this) and Toshiba (which is more bad than Sharp). How can i know if display its made by Sony when i go in a shop?
5.It have ambient light sensor?What about OTG?
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1.
TFT:
+ much higher max brightness
+ more efficient on low brightness than led displays (with exceptions)
LED:
+ more contrast and color intensity (might even look unrealistic)
+ black themes save lots of energy, as the screen is practically off when showing black pixels.
3.
This waterproof thing is quite risky with all phones. The reason is that the charger cover looses its waterproofness with time. And how might you prove to Sony that the charger cover was actually closed when you put your phone into the water, while the indicator within the cover had turned red of water?
4. You can check by dialing *#*#SERVICE#*#* at the XV you want to buy. Then a menu will pop up and you just need to check the touch firmware version. If it's type b, you have the Sony display.
5. XV does have an ambient light sensor, however this one is only capable of registring values up to ~ 180 lux.
You will however not notice this issue when using the phone
Also, OTG should be possible, as I noticed the system app related to this.
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WhiteNeo said:
1.
TFT:
+ much higher max brightness
+ more efficient on low brightness than led displays (with exceptions)
LED:
+ more contrast and color intensity (might even look unrealistic)
+ black themes save lots of energy, as the screen is practically off when showing black pixels.
3.
This waterproof thing is quite risky with all phones. The reason is that the charger cover looses its waterproofness with time. And how might you prove to Sony that the charger cover was actually closed when you put your phone into the water, while the indicator within the cover had turned red of water?
4. You can check by dialing *#*#SERVICE#*#* at the XV you want to buy. Then a menu will pop up and you just need to check the touch firmware version. If it's type b, you have the Sony display.
5. XV does have an ambient light sensor, however this one is only capable of registring values up to ~ 180 lux.
You will however not notice this issue when using the phone
Also, OTG should be possible, as I noticed the system app related to this.
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Can you answer at 2. question from #11 post ?

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_v-review-877p2.php

Force said:
Can you answer at 2. question from #11 post ?
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Didn't really understand your question, sorry
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WhiteNeo said:
Didn't really understand your question, sorry
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1.Xperia V look like e.g. Xperia L ?
2.M2 screen its so bad?
3.I saw somewhere that a dual cpu ( e.g. dual 1.5 ghz from Xperia V) and andreno 225 (e.g. from xperia v) have same performance with a dual cpu (e.g. 1ghz) or quad core(e.g. M2 processor) and adreno 305.Its true?
4. How i can write service at dialer? ( *#*#SERVICE#*#* ). And 3 manufacturer display are available for all xperia (e.g. M2 too) ??
5.You are sure that type b of display its sony manufacturer?Because i want sony
These are my last questions.

Force said:
1.Xperia V look like e.g. Xperia L ?
2.M2 screen its so bad?
3.I saw somewhere that a dual cpu ( e.g. dual 1.5 ghz from Xperia V) and andreno 225 (e.g. from xperia v) have same performance with a dual cpu (e.g. 1ghz) or quad core(e.g. M2 processor) and adreno 305.Its true?
4. How i can write service at dialer? ( *#*#SERVICE#*#* ). And 3 manufacturer display are available for all xperia (e.g. M2 too) ??
5.You are sure that type b of display its sony manufacturer?Because i want sony
These are my last questions.
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1. Xperia V has a curved back, being 0.7cm high at the slimmest point. Also, there is some kind of dark silver colored frame on the side of the phone. I think the design is quite similar to Xperia L, however the pet button is a little different (small and in the same color as the silver frame, as opposed to the bigger on/off button of the 2013 Xperia devices)
If this doesn't answer your question, just check images on Google.
2. Don't know anything about M2 screen, but as XV screen is said to be extremely good, it's not so likely that M2 screen is better. But I don't know. ^^
3. This one is partially true.. When I started tweaking my phone some months ago, I managed to beat the S4 in 3D benchmark. So, compared to the device's resolution, the gpu is pretty good.
However, nothing really can replace a quad core. It's just faster.. The cpu is actually the only thing of my phone that I'm not happy with. ^^
The ui is still extremely smooth, however (thanks to the wonderful 4.3 update ^^)
4. Just write the numbers that are on the dialer keys, like you were typing on a t9 keyboard.
You'll have to check the M2 forums for this display stuff.
I only know the XV displays.
5. Well, I am sure I read the character b in a thread some time ago, but I can't confirm if the information given the is correct. (However, it is likely )
My advice: Get the Z1 compact, or a similar device.. M2 screen resolution is too small (imo), and XV cpu not too awesome
Also, consider that the battery and ram size of the devices are important when buying.
768mb as the XV has sound much, but 4.3 ram management is quite bad, and even with 4 apps in background, I have only 150mb left.. So check of M2 has more ram, it is pretty useful, also for playing games
And the XV's battery is quite small, it only lasts one day of normal usage for me. Or 2 hours of 3d gaming.
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WhiteNeo said:
768mb as the XV has sound much, but 4.3 ram management is quite bad, and even with 4 apps in background, I have only 150mb left.. So check of M2 has more ram, it is pretty useful, also for playing games
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Both phones have 1GB RAM.

@WhiteNeo : Z1 compact have unremovable battery.Phones with this typw of battery worrie me... Still prety hard what to choose between V and M2...Im waiting for a review of display and then i will choose...
Thank you for answers guys !

I've been using Xperia V for more than a year now. I would recommend you to pick the V than M2. I compared my V with my friend's M2, V seems to have better sceen, a lil bit faster processor. But I have to warn you those water resistant cover are very easy to fail, mine failed after 10 months of using and I'm a very careful user though.
Hope this can help

[Q] Xperia SP performance phone

Guys i am new here and i need help in choosing a phone
i previously owned Sony Xperia SP (C5303)
Everything stock
i got the latest firmware version and i lost the damn phone
i was happy with the specs and all with the latest firmware, without lags
it was not rooted
i only played subway surfer, temple run 2, asphalt 8, stickman basketball
games kind a lame or might be a bit gay for you guys but i just only enjoy simple games
now i am planning to buy a new phone that would have atleast same performace
if would have better performance much appreciated
i have two phones in mind.
one would be Asus phone Zenfone 5
with specs
ASUS ZenFone 5 specs:
5-inch IPS display, 1280 x 720 @294ppi
Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Intel Atom Z2560 1.6GHz dual-core processor with HyperThreading Technology
PowerVR SGX 544 MP2
2GB RAM
8GB/16GB internal storage
64GB via microSD
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
3G/HSPA+
Bluetooth
8MP BSI rear camera w/ LED flash
1080p video recording @30fps
2MP front-facing camera
Non-removable 2110mAh battery
Dual-SIM
Android 4.3
148.2 x 72.8 x 10.3mm
144g
the other phone i cannot name since it might not be available on other countries
Specs
5-inch IPS Full HD (1080 × 1920) display, 441ppi
Corning Gorilla Glass 2
1.7GHz MediaTek MT6592 octa-core CPU
Mali-450MP GPU
2GB RAM
16GB internal storage
No microSD card support
16 megapixel rear camera, w/ LED flash
5 megapixel front camera
dual-SIM (micro), dual-standby
HSPA+, 3G
WiFi b/g/n
Bluetooth
GPS
USB OTG
Android 4.2.2 Jellybean
2,350mAh non-removable battery
7.3mm thin
Both phones almost has the same clock speed with my SP
advantage is the RAM
but i am not sure which GPU or Chipset is better
factors
*display
*speed
*multi-tasking
i can consume 3gb of space for music so storage will not be a factor
i dont take pictures so much and when i do i erase them immediately after i upload them
5gb total amount of games to be used in the storage
please share your thoughts

Aerodisaster said:
Guys i am new here and i need help in choosing a phone
i previously owned Sony Xperia SP (C5303)
Everything stock
i got the latest firmware version and i lost the damn phone
i was happy with the specs and all with the latest firmware, without lags
it was not rooted
i only played subway surfer, temple run 2, asphalt 8, stickman basketball
games kind a lame or might be a bit gay for you guys but i just only enjoy simple games
now i am planning to buy a new phone that would have atleast same performace
if would have better performance much appreciated
i have two phones in mind.
one would be Asus phone Zenfone 5
with specs
ASUS ZenFone 5 specs:
5-inch IPS display, 1280 x 720 @294ppi
Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Intel Atom Z2560 1.6GHz dual-core processor with HyperThreading Technology
PowerVR SGX 544 MP2
2GB RAM
8GB/16GB internal storage
64GB via microSD
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
3G/HSPA+
Bluetooth
8MP BSI rear camera w/ LED flash
1080p video recording @30fps
2MP front-facing camera
Non-removable 2110mAh battery
Dual-SIM
Android 4.3
148.2 x 72.8 x 10.3mm
144g
the other phone i cannot name since it might not be available on other countries
Specs
5-inch IPS Full HD (1080 × 1920) display, 441ppi
Corning Gorilla Glass 2
1.7GHz MediaTek MT6592 octa-core CPU
Mali-450MP GPU
2GB RAM
16GB internal storage
No microSD card support
16 megapixel rear camera, w/ LED flash
5 megapixel front camera
dual-SIM (micro), dual-standby
HSPA+, 3G
WiFi b/g/n
Bluetooth
GPS
USB OTG
Android 4.2.2 Jellybean
2,350mAh non-removable battery
7.3mm thin
Both phones almost has the same clock speed with my SP
advantage is the RAM
but i am not sure which GPU or Chipset is better
factors
*display
*speed
*multi-tasking
i can consume 3gb of space for music so storage will not be a factor
i dont take pictures so much and when i do i erase them immediately after i upload them
5gb total amount of games to be used in the storage
please share your thoughts
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How about you create this thread on your phones of choice forum and not here.

hey
Nanostray said:
How about you create this thread on your phones of choice forum and not here.
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i am new here
how can i do that?
some moderator even moved my post to SP troubleshooting something posts

hey
Nanostray said:
How about you create this thread on your phones of choice forum and not here.
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since you've read this, can you give out some ideas? which phone would probably catch up with the performance of SP? since you are an XSP user as well. other phones you can suggest? plsss? i am desperate

Nanostray said:
How about you create this thread on your phones of choice forum and not here.
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I don't think there is a section on xda for these phones (MTK/Intel= no source code= no development= no xda forum)
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noahvt said:
I don't think there is a section on xda for these phones (MTK/Intel= no source code= no development= no xda forum)
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Motorola Razr I->Intel Atom->XDA Forum

thanks
antkalaitzakis96 said:
Motorola Razr I->Intel Atom->XDA Forum
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if only it would be available in our country i would buy that phone since it was debated before against XSP
almost same specs but no memory expansion
btw do you have any thoughts about MALI 450 mp vs SGX544?

How do you expect XSP users to know what phones have same performance..?

Nanostray said:
How do you expect XSP users to know what phones have same performance..?
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i havent thought of that but i believe that some people here are knowledgeable about GPUs and chipsets.

Aerodisaster said:
i havent thought of that but i believe that some people here are knowledgeable about GPUs and chipsets.
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My previous phone was Motorola Razr I..it had an intel CPU..since It was running stock-pure android it didn't lag..but not all apps are compartible with intel SoCs because it's architecture is x86... 98% percent of apps would work with intel and others will have bugs
Now, I read that MediaTek CPUs aren't good but I have never tested a phone with that cpu
If I were you and I was about to choose one of those 2 phones, I would pick the Asus just because it will get android 4.4