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Hi everyone,
For months I am eagerly waiting for the Xperia V to be released in France (it will be this week, with JB on board). But this morning I found a review from a quite serious blog (in French) and it sort of discouraged me :
- They had major 3G connectivity issues, which is a huge turn-off for me
- They say the screen is not that great after all (too yellow-ish, despite BRAVIAEngine 2)
- They found lots of non-uninstallable bloatware (Adobe Reader, McAfee, some games, etc.)
- They found lots of bugs (camera focus, SOD when using GPS and music player), despite the JB ROM !
Now I'm wavering :
- Is this Xperia V a good choice ? From what I can read on XDA forums, owners of this V seem happy with their choice, but for example, has someone experienced any 3G connectivity issues since the JB upgrade ? Are the other bugs really annoying ?
- I was planning to wait a few months before getting rid of Sony software and get CyanogenMod on this Xperia V ; now that I see the bugs I want to get CM as soon as possible, but is it safe to avoid the warranty of a smartphone right after spending €500 for it ?
- In a nutshell : is the Xperia V a good choice ? (I want a phone that runs JB smoothly on a minimum-300dpi screen, with a micro-SD slot, a removable battery, LTE-compliant, and that I can handle with one of my small hands )
Thanks to anyone who can help me decide whether to buy it or not...
David Guillot said:
Hi everyone,
For months I am eagerly waiting for the Xperia V to be released in France (it will be this week, with JB on board). But this morning I found a review from a quite serious blog (in French) and it sort of discouraged me :
- They had major 3G connectivity issues, which is a huge turn-off for me
- They say the screen is not that great after all (too yellow-ish, despite BRAVIAEngine 2)
- They found lots of non-uninstallable bloatware (Adobe Reader, McAfee, some games, etc.)
- They found lots of bugs (camera focus, SOD when using GPS and music player), despite the JB ROM !
Now I'm wavering :
- Is this Xperia V a good choice ? From what I can read on XDA forums, owners of this V seem happy with their choice, but for example, has someone experienced any 3G connectivity issues since the JB upgrade ? Are the other bugs really annoying ?
- I was planning to wait a few months before getting rid of Sony software and get CyanogenMod on this Xperia V ; now that I see the bugs I want to get CM as soon as possible, but is it safe to avoid the warranty of a smartphone right after spending €500 for it ?
- In a nutshell : is the Xperia V a good choice ? (I want a phone that runs JB smoothly on a minimum-300dpi screen, with a micro-SD slot, a removable battery, LTE-compliant, and that I can handle with one of my small hands )
Thanks to anyone who can help me decide whether to buy it or not...
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The points you list at the end overlap quite a bit with my criteria for picking the V, and I don't regret it at all. I was hoping Sony would push this model more than they have and that it would get strong sales so that "smaller" phones might not end up in a low-spec ghetto. Anyway, to address your points:
- The 3G connectivity issues may very well have to do with the network settings being set by default to connect to LTE. I had major issues until I changed the settings (my contract doesn't include LTE). Since then, no problems. If the review unit had this setting on, that's probably what happened.
- The display quality seems ok to me. This isn't honestly that huge a thing for me, so maybe somebody else has a stronger opinion on it than I do.
- There's no such thing as "uninstallable" . There is a (somewhat complicated) method for rooting the V without unlocking the bootloader, so as not to void your warranty. I didn't have any of the bloatware that you listed on mine, so it must be carrier-added bloat. I'm new to Xperia and I unlocked mine after about a week, so I may be wrong about this, but I think you can flash .ftf's with a locked bootloader, and just use a generic version of the firmware and voilà - no more bloat!
- I've never had a SOD. The only bug I've dealt with since upgrading to JB is long pauses between tracks when using the Walkman app. Admittedly a pretty big deal for me, I can only hope that since "Walkman" is pretty much synonymous with "Sony", they'll get this one sorted sooner rather than later.
Satisfied with everything except for the battery consumption while on data. Came from Galaxy Nexus. I leave data on for the whole day with my Nexus and it lasts. With this Xperia V, i turn off the data and switch to GSM when not in use.
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Carriers are well-known to add in lots of bloatwares. Nothing to do with the phone. But currently there's no working version of CM10.1 (JB 4.2.x), though.
The FreeXperiaProject are on it, albeit not high in their priority list.
Those who tested the current testing version of CM10.1 reported that the ROM is too damn smooth. xD
So for us to have a working version of CM10.1, it will take some time...
Disclaimer: I don't personally own a V, but a T instead.
- Among all the phones I have used, I personally haven't ran into any phone with connectivity issue. Most of the times, it's due to either telco bad signals or half-baked ported roms (i.e. CM10.1), which is probably the less of your concern. However, I heard that V was equipped with 4G (whereas T was not), so you might want to explore this more.
- V screen is far superior compared to T (and maybe Z as well), according to comparison videos and videos I have seen so far. I'd love to have the V display screen.
- From what I saw, V and T shared the same bloatwares. Most of the bloatwares on T are Sony media connection utilities, which are not that annoying. EA Games, OfficeSuite and other stuff I don't really use can be deleted. Coming from a Nexus, I'm surprised that bloatwares did not annoy me at all.
- T suffers from a Walkman bug, that's all. I'm not sure about V.
Yes, you should buy it. It's the only phone with 720p resolution and ergonomic screen size, yet maintain a decent performance, and better yet, an SDCard slot.
David Guillot said:
Hi everyone,
For months I am eagerly waiting for the Xperia V to be released in France (it will be this week, with JB on board). But this morning I found a review from a quite serious blog (in French) and it sort of discouraged me :
- They had major 3G connectivity issues, which is a huge turn-off for me
- They say the screen is not that great after all (too yellow-ish, despite BRAVIAEngine 2)
- They found lots of non-uninstallable bloatware (Adobe Reader, McAfee, some games, etc.)
- They found lots of bugs (camera focus, SOD when using GPS and music player), despite the JB ROM !
Now I'm wavering :
- Is this Xperia V a good choice ? From what I can read on XDA forums, owners of this V seem happy with their choice, but for example, has someone experienced any 3G connectivity issues since the JB upgrade ? Are the other bugs really annoying ?
- I was planning to wait a few months before getting rid of Sony software and get CyanogenMod on this Xperia V ; now that I see the bugs I want to get CM as soon as possible, but is it safe to avoid the warranty of a smartphone right after spending €500 for it ?
- In a nutshell : is the Xperia V a good choice ? (I want a phone that runs JB smoothly on a minimum-300dpi screen, with a micro-SD slot, a removable battery, LTE-compliant, and that I can handle with one of my small hands )
Thanks to anyone who can help me decide whether to buy it or not...
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Personally I love my Xperia V, there is no phone I would have rather bought. Well maybe Z. It just feels awesome in my hands, looks awesome, is really snappy, the camera is a beast in my opinion and the waterproofig is a plus too.
There are some disadvantages of course, the main one being the lack of developers. I know, I shouldn't "whine" about it, they do it for free and because they want to and I should start deving my self if I'm not satisfied. But I won't. Coming from HTC Desire I was a bit disappointed (shouldn't use that word) to see the lack of roms and mods etc. The battery is a bit too small too, I thought that smartphones would last longer nowadays, but nah, it's a minor upgrade to HTC Desire for example.
Another problem is that my phone seemed a bit bugged right out of the box, orientation sensor would sometimes get stuck and not rotate the screen. I took it to Sony care, let's see what they can do about it. Probably nothing, since the it happens very randomly.
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...Coming from HTC Desire I was a bit disappointed (shouldn't use that word) to see the lack of roms and mods etc. The battery is a bit too small too, I thought that smartphones would last longer nowadays, but nah, it's a minor upgrade to HTC Desire...
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I loved my old HTC Desire. What a great phone it was.
I'm hoping to buy an Xperia V this weekend, too. I'm worried about battery life; has anyone bought an extended one?
I'm using an Xperia V, and I have rooted, added cwm, debloat the wares, still locked bootloader.
I heard that V have two kinds of screen too. And my screen's black color is truly black, not gray like T .
I've tested a film on my phone and my laptop, I just have to say that BE2 is great, it enhances the colors on the film, which is very nice, I've made a comparison with my friend's Xperia T, the BE2 sometimes enhances the colors too much which makes it a little bit unreal, but to tell the truth, most of the time, it makes u feel that the image is greater than the original xD
I'm from Vietnam, we only have 3G. But the connection speed is great, it doesn't take me long to download apps from Play Store . I think it may depends on your signal and the network provider speed . Cuz it depends in my country, if you have full signal, you will got speed around 6-7.2 mbps, but I usually got around 3-5mbps .
About Sony apps, Walkman has some bugs with playing, soon it will be fixed. SoD appears suddenly, I don't know if it just with GPS ). But this is a serious problem, it will be fixed soon either. And about the camera, I myself love the main camera with it's great speed of shoot, but the front camera sucks :|, I love the front camera of Xperia S more
One little thing I want to say that I love the water proof of this phone ). My friends' iPhone can't do that, and that's the way I troll them with my Xperia :laugh:
Thank you all for your feedbacks, just bought my Xperia V this morning for €429 (great deal on Sony France e-shop, due to the loooong wait) !
I'll receive it next week, will root it as soon as possible to get rid of bloatware, change the networking settings since my contract isn't 4G, and wait for CM 10.1
I'm eagerly waiting for Xperia SP, or should I buy this Xperia V?
Plus of Xperia V : water/dust resistant, 13 MP camera
Plus of Xperia SP : bigger screen and battery capacity, higher CPU and GPU
Any suggestions?
mewtwo68d said:
I'm eagerly waiting for Xperia SP, or should I buy this Xperia V?
Plus of Xperia V : water/dust resistant, 13 MP camera
Plus of Xperia SP : bigger screen and battery capacity, higher CPU and GPU
Any suggestions?
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Buy the SP. The V's flaps will soon fall out. Mine is already sticking out. If you want a waterproof one get the Z as they use a different and stronger material for their flaps. However if you're on a budget get the SP. It's high CPU ans GPU makes up for not having waterproof.
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There are two things I hate about the Xperia V: 1) Disappointing battery performance on data connection (WiFi is significantly better), 2) Lack of development.
Came from a Galaxy Nexus.
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blackcat510 said:
And about the camera, I myself love the main camera with it's great speed of shoot, but the front camera sucks :|, I love the front camera of Xperia S more
One little thing I want to say that I love the water proof of this phone ). My friends' iPhone can't do that, and that's the way I troll them with my Xperia :laugh:
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how is the front camera compare to the iphone 4s front camera ? is it worst or kind of the same? and i guess the main camera it's much better than the main camera of the iphone 4S... right?
and i bit off topic does it have usb otg ? and what about the hdmi have you tried it?
PS: im going crazy trying to decide which phone to buy :silly: (i own a 4S right now )
sdam87 said:
how is the front camera compare to the iphone 4s front camera ? is it worst or kind of the same? and i guess the main camera it's much better than the main camera of the iphone 4S... right?
and i bit off topic does it have usb otg ? and what about the hdmi have you tried it?
PS: im going crazy trying to decide which phone to buy :silly: (i own a 4S right now )
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Buy the Xperia SL
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Buy the Xperia SL
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i thought about it but missing sd card, no water resistant and the old s3 snap dragon processor, made me look for another device :\
sdam87 said:
i thought about it but missing sd card, no water resistant and the old s3 snap dragon processor, made me look for another device :\
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The LED strip and GPU is good. I mean it has an old processor but it's 1.7Ghz Dual Core. It's fine for me. It's also faster than the V. I have the V and overtime you'll lose water resistance as the flaps will fall off. Mine is already sticking out.
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The V's flaps will soon fall out. Mine is already sticking out.
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How long did it take for the flaps to fall out ? I have mine for 3 weeks now and despite the fact that they feel a bit fragile, I think if I take care of them they will hold on...
I am really fond of my V, it feels great in the hand, it is quite smooth, the battery life is acceptable, the camera is pretty good, and I dropped a pint of beer on it without any damage !
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The LED strip and GPU is good. I mean it has an old processor but it's 1.7Ghz Dual Core. It's fine for me. It's also faster than the V. I have the V and overtime you'll lose water resistance as the flaps will fall off. Mine is already sticking out.
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Ummm no. The SL is NOT faster than the V either CPU or GPU wise.
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Basically this thread is specifically towards previous owners of Galaxy S3, that are now owners of Xperia SP, or people who have both and can have a "real" comparisson rather than a bunch of review sites that give too much into details, that dont affect you most of the time.
Battery life is completely subject to how you use your device, if it is unlocked with a custom kernel etc etc, so this doesn't really matter since both are around the same battery stats.
Benchmarks etc. This is again useless since one has 4 cores that are older than the 2 cores of the SP. Again these are dependant on how the HW is used and in what way.
Photos. I am not a instagram user, and I dont think i ever had more than 100 pics on any of my phones.
So... The questions that really bug me.
Are the soft keys on the Xperia SP (home, back, menu) an annoyance when playing games, texting, browsing etc.? I found myself pressing all of those on my Xperia Active several times and it pissed me off. I expect this to be less of a hassle on the S3 given the fact that its only got 2 soft keys and they are all beyond the screen.
Is sunlight legibility on both up to par? If not, which one is better? I could go with a matte screen protector but that screws up the colors a bit.
The reason im leaning more to the S3 is the already huge development scene on it, and the immense number of accessories for it, whereas for most Sony devices the Cases etc are very limited. P.S. im very clumsy, even the Active fell lots of times but never actually broke.
So, for the owners or long time users of BOTH devices, which one is better for you? Would you go back to the S3? Or are you more than happy with the SP?
I personally played around with both for quite some time, and they are both good phones.
The s3 has a slightly better sound quality and camera, although the build quality is atrocious. It has a smaller but removable battery, and a larger internal storage.
The xperia sp has a larger battery and much better build quality, although the camera is not great. I really like the light strip.
Both devices have similar performance, although the galaxy s3 has a laggy gallery.
I would say go for whichever is cheaper. The xperia sp is however released later so maybe longer support from Sony?
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Both phones have very reflective screens, which means you can't really see anything on both on a sunny day.
Never had a problem with soft keys, neither typing nor gaming is affected. I play nfs, asphalt and modern combat.
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I am currently using Xperia SP and my Big Bro is using galaxy s3 and we usually compare both the device in everything.
I can say that Xperia SP is a fairly good device but S3 is also a very good device for the price at which it is offered in the country today. S3 scores above Xperia SP in following things:
>Fairly better screen and viewing angles than X SP (super AmOled)
>Marginally Better battery backup
>16gb internal memory for apps and games (X SP has Half)
>much better camera, both front and back (has video call too)
In real life, i consider SGS3 can be a good option if budget can go for that.
Looks of X SP is also not that good but imo better than sgs3
Thanks for both of your inputs.
I went for the SP in the end. Battery Backup is very very very subjective to if you have it rooted, how you use it etc. I couldn't give a flying about the FFC, since I never do video calls
So, depending on some key factors regarding on what is what when you unlock the bootloader, you might be seeing the (SP)artan Rom soon enough...
Mods, you can close the thread. My questions have been answered.
dumraden said:
Thanks for both of your inputs.
I went for the SP in the end. Battery Backup is very very very subjective to if you have it rooted, how you use it etc. I couldn't give a flying about the FFC, since I never do video calls
So, depending on some key factors regarding on what is what when you unlock the bootloader, you might be seeing the (SP)artan Rom soon enough...
Mods, you can close the thread. My questions have been answered.
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SO finally u bought Xperia SP..
For how much did u get?
Got it sorta pricey, but I due to my recent problems with the Xperia Active, I decided to get it from here. It cost 360 Euros. I could find it in the UK for around 300, but then if something went wrong, I would have to pay 30 euros every time it had to go and come back to me from Greece to the UK.
First impressions are nice, I really like the floating touch. But i need to get used to it And yes, the soft keys do not get in the way, because the fingers kind of arch over them when you have it on landscape.
I am going to return back my SP to the dealer ( My Friend ) and going for S3. I dont know y but i love S3. After using SP for three days i decided to buy S3... I am a big gamer.. Can i really go for S3.? And 4.2.2 update for S3 is on d way i think.. Any advice From Any Old S3 user ? Pls ...
I think your question is in the wrong section completely Try looking in the S3 phone section.
rajeevxperia said:
I am going to return back my SP to the dealer ( My Friend ) and going for S3. I dont know y but i love S3. After using SP for three days i decided to buy S3... I am a big gamer.. Can i really go for S3.? And 4.2.2 update for S3 is on d way i think.. Any advice From Any Old S3 user ? Pls ...
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If you care about gaming xperia sp is a better choice becouse the adreno 320 is way better than mali 400. Current gamesrun well on both but think about the future my friend
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If you care about gaming xperia sp is a better choice becouse the adreno 320 is way better than mali 400. Current gamesrun well on both but think about the future my friend
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Thanks for the reply my friend. I wil go for S3 ( Some budget problem dude ) ..
rajeevxperia said:
Thanks for the reply my friend. I wil go for S3 ( Some budget problem dude ) ..
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Most games require only 2 cores, and the rumour about Key Lime Pie requiring quad core is just BS, as that will leave out the dual core Galaxy S3, all but 3 Xperias and the Nexus 10.
Nexus 10 owners will then be pissed that the nexus 7 guys who paid less will get KLP. Impossible on Google's part.
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Must games require only 2 cores, and the rumour about Key Lime Pie requiring quad core is just BS, as that will leave out the dual core Galaxy S3, all but 3 Xperias and the Nexus 10.
Nexus 10 owners will then be pissed that the nexus 7 guys who paid less will get KLP. Impossible on Google's part.
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U r correct. Me also heared that rumor. But i dont really care about future updates.. I will not keep any mobile more than a Year...
Which I want to choose: GS3 or XSP??
Guys, I love gaming and also watching movies.. I like to run apps.. But I confused in these 2 smartphones..
I have budget for these 2 phones..
But I hear that Xperia SP have a display defect..nd also in battry backup..
So i turnd to GS3. But I also here a news that the glass of GS3 will broken when it falls down..
Guys, here I'm a ltl bit confused..
Can u plz suggst me a gud phone frm these 2 smartfones???
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I personally played around with both for quite some time, and they are both good phones.
The s3 has a slightly better sound quality and camera, although the build quality is atrocious. It has a smaller but removable battery, and a larger internal storage.
The xperia sp has a larger battery and much better build quality, although the camera is not great. I really like the light strip.
Both devices have similar performance, although the galaxy s3 has a laggy gallery.
I would say go for whichever is cheaper. The xperia sp is however released later so maybe longer support from Sony?
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Both phones have very reflective screens, which means you can't really see anything on both on a sunny day.
Never had a problem with soft keys, neither typing nor gaming is affected. I play nfs, asphalt and modern combat.
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According to Quadrant, 3D-mark and Antutu, and general percieved performance, the Adreno 320 is Faster than the Mali400 in the S3 and the Adreno 225 in the US S3,
Linpack shows approximately the Dual core Krait CPU with Double the CPU MFLOPs, compared to the slower Quad core Cortex A9 Exynos CPU in the S3.
but don't get me wrong, the S3 is still fast enpough to run any game out there at the moment.
Gone of Samsung, due to their Super Amoled screens and build quality.
as fo Not being able to see anything on the SP, dunno what your talking about, the screen is clearly much brighter than the Super Amoled screens and easily visible during Sunny days.
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asman.kr said:
Guys, I love gaming and also watching movies.. I like to run apps.. But I confused in these 2 smartphones..
I have budget for these 2 phones..
But I hear that Xperia SP have a display defect..nd also in battry backup..
So i turnd to GS3. But I also here a news that the glass of GS3 will broken when it falls down..
Guys, here I'm a ltl bit confused..
Can u plz suggst me a gud phone frm these 2 smartfones???
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Both are good performing phones,
as for the defects you mention, never experienced any of them.
the SP lasts longer on standby, due to stamina mode and a bigger battery,
can't comment on the S3, but judging by the Superamoled screen it probably has a longer screen on time,
the Glass screen on any phone CAN break if it falls down from a height or onto a sharp or hard surface etc,
Manufacturers are yet to give us a Indestructable screen, :silly:
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I could either get the Xperia Sp for 0$ or get the S3 for 140$ through my carrier. I game a lot and the Adreno 320 is better than the Mali but, the support behind the S3 is much larger than the Sp. Which one should I get?
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I could either get the Xperia Sp for 0$ or get the S3 for 140$ through my carrier. I game a lot and the Adreno 320 is better than the Mali but, the support behind the S3 is much larger than the Sp. Which one should I get?
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Depends on what you want! i had to choose between these two phones as well i chose the xperia sp because of the build quality: metal vs plastic and performance wich is better then S3 I think the support behind this phone is reasonable with a soon upcoming 4.3 build
S3 without a second thought
S3 is a very high end phone which was released with an introductory price of above $600.
Samsung packed the best of its features into it.
It has won numerous awards and it was once the most bought android phone in the world.
The body of xperia sp is very tempting, but trust me, it is the internals that matter wayy more.
The back camera on the Xperia SP is very bad. The photos have noise, red-blue-greenish dots all around when zoomed. I clicked many photos myself on the mobile store. The 0.3 mp front camera is so horrible, that I'd rather not comment on it.
On the other hand, the back camera on the S3 is spectacular with no weak points to it. Superb clarity and there's no noise. The 1.9 MP front camera clicked some really beautiful shots.
The music quality on Xperia SP is good but not if you use walkman. The walkman's clearbass option increases the bass, however the volume of the sound is weirdly lowered at different points of the songs. This happens on all sony phones only. It's weird sony hasn't fixed it.
Use poweramp however, and you'll love all your songs.
The S3's sound quality is superb and it is an ideal phone for audiophiles. You can check the audio lab test results in this genuine GSMarena review -
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p8.php
The battery on my S3 is amazing. I dont know about xperia sp, but after hearing from my friends, it is equally good.
Gaming on the S3 is superb as well. I have never seen any of my games lag on the s3. Xperia SP's snapdragon cpu is also very much ideal for gaming.
So the decision is yours
Ram wise the S3 is better but then If Were you guys just sell your SP save up some cash and buy the Nexus 5 because it is clearly the better one here
but nonetheless SP is better than that older S3...don't get so tempted by that bigger SUPER LCD2 screen it runs on older ARM hardware compared to the newer krait architecture our devices have
GPU wise the SP is still better and besides sound could easily be improved by installing Viper4Android so its no big deal
Hello everybody,
Actually I was planning to purchase new xperia device... according to my budget, I thought of going for Xperia SP.
The reason for this thread is .. Can I go for SP as I am getting it in 19000 INR from ebay.in.. It is worth to buy or should i go for ZR which is 8000 INR more than SP price..
Will SP be future proof for atleast a year and will it Honami style 4.3 update. or just a common 4.3 update.
What do you think guys please.. suggest me!!!
and about considering the problems SP users are facing.
I don't Know how much is this in €. But SP is a really good choice! Buy the SP!
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Test the Camera before by XSP. Picture size and quality is no more up to date. Not poor, but other devices (XS or HTC one) make better pictures. All other works great.
Value for money phone
Since I own a Xperia SP for more than 2 months now, following are my impressions. Since I am being critical I'll list negatives first.
Negatives:
Xperia SP's biggest weakness is its camera. Pictures in low light are very bad for its price... pictures in day light are ok, but nothing too good. Pictures taken by SP have more noise in them. So over all SP's camera is very much worse as compared to, say, Galaxy S3's.
The screen is not as good as Super Amoled screens of Samsung's Galaxy series or HTC's & LG's IPS LCD. However, while indoors you will not have any issue. While outdoors, the screen is a bit reflective but is still manageable. I haven't faced any other display issue till now.
Wi-fi reception is truly a bit weaker than other phones, but the internet speed is not affected. Only range is lesser.
Some people have encountered the touch issue when the phone is kept on a table & not in your palm. Some people have also faced a bit of trouble while the phone is plugged in for charging via AC adapter. However, I haven't faced any of these issues.
Positives:
The best part about SP is its performance. Snapdragon S4 Pro is simply a beast and Adreno 320 GPU blows the competition out of water. Current flagships of various brands like Xperia Z, ZL, ZR, HTC One and LG Optimus G Pro all have the same GPU.
SP has 1 GB RAM, which although is not equivalent to these flagships, is enough even for the heaviest of games/apps available in market. However, real racing 3 has some issues. Other games run very well.
Another plus point of SP is its build quality & design. It doesn't look cheap like Samsung GS3 or GS4. The illumination bar at the bottom is a very nice aspect of the design.
The battery performance of SP is one of the better ones.
When used with Bravia Engine 2, the display is awesome while indoors. It is sufficiently bright.
PRICE!!! A total value for money.
So, keeping all these in mind I would suggest:
If you are too much in cell phone photography, explore other mobiles. Galaxy S3 could be good choice in that case. Glaxy S4 mini and Nexus 4 are also there. However, all these cost slightly more than SP.
If 20K is your budget, then go for SP. You won't find a better phone at that price.
If you don't want even slightest of performance issue, surety of many more updates & have the extra budget then you can also give Xperia ZR a serious thought. It has a faster processor, more RAM & better camera in addition to being dust & waterproof. Battery life of ZR is even better than SP's.
Pretty much agree with the post from the_helix.
I think Sony have been clever with this device, they have taken away the things that average/practical users don't really care about.
Do you really need 400+ PPI, 1080p screen, a big internal memory if there's space for a memory card, more RAM etc? They have instead made sure that the processor is top notch, given it 4G and NFC - so you get almost flagship performance at half the price.
Yes some things could be better (there is always something to complain about - the S4 and HTC One are not immune from this either), but with a bigger screen and more robust build than the competition in this price range (the mini S4 and mini HTC One) I think this is the best mid-range phone on the market.
I think it's future proof - but within reason, some games developers always push the boundaries and make software that will only run really well on top devices. I think/hope it will see the next iteration of Android - is it really going to be called kit-kat?
hi,
purchased today my xperia sp in ebay.in. waiting for delivery. so now i being here for have a glance. iam biggest fan of sony till now i used four mobiles from sony, ( J230i, w810, x8, mini pro). and this is my fifth from sony. hope this mobile will meet my expectations. will join u later guys after getting my sp in hands. cheers!
Well guys, I finally ordered Xperia ZL. Thank you everybody for replies.....
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Well guys, I finally ordered Xperia ZL. Thank you everybody for replies.....
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why bro? not satisfied with sp?
rajkumar85 said:
why bro? not satisfied with sp?
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nope....Actually, I got some extra money, so thought to go for ZL... for 27000 INR
rajkumar85 said:
why bro? not satisfied with sp?
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Good choice, the sp is just ****ed up!
Which one will be best? I want to buy one, but i'm in confuse about which one will be best. I saw that s4mini battery capacity is not so good, but configurations are awesome, SP also awesome. But still in confuse. Anyone there to suggest me please?
Screen size should dictate. If you want a bigger screen go for the sp if not the s4m is a tidy phone.
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if you like touchwiz ui go for the s4 mini otherwise having it is like hell becuz of the confusing software otherwise go for the sp if you want the cool led on the bottom otherwise their both about the same
If you want:
- 768MB of usable RAM
- 5GB of USB/APP Install space (and want to use mods made for other phones to see if they match yours) a.k.a. no one cares about Xperia SP
- Mediocre MHL @ 720p
- Non physical navigation bar keys, but virtual ones that take up space and make every application look squished or weird.
- Non removable battery (if it dies, your phone dies with it)
- Washed out screen colors.
- Non official support of 64GB MicroSD cards.
Then the Xperia Sp is for you. I'm more than annoyed with it. Shoudl've waited for another phone, and the locked bootloader is horrible too.
This is my personal experience, and I've had used previously
- UMI X1 (Mediatek Dual-core with 1GB of RAM)
- Galaxy S2 (best so far, but Samsung's warranty policy in my country sucks)
- Motorola Atrix "4G" (no updates)
- LG Optimus 3D
Good luck.
i would actually recommend the moto g or x
What about Xperia ZR?
+Quad Core CPU
+2GB of RAM
+Better Display than SP one (More contrast and better viewing angles,- not good as an IPS panel-, but still Its fine)*
+Removable Battery
+Waterproof
-VGA Front facing camera
-8GB of Internal Storage
-Some Bugs
*Note: You should check and compare the screen with another ZR, due the screen lottery
- 768MB of usable RAM
4.3 has 860mb
- 5GB of USB/APP Install space (and want to use mods made for other phones to see if they match yours) a.k.a. no one cares about Xperia SP
Samsung has much more bloat in their firmwares. It's the most bloated android firmware. I don't know how the second part of that is related to the first point, but there are tons of mods made for the sp exclusively or 2013 xperia models
- Mediocre MHL @ 720p
S4 mini isn't even 720p. Its 540x960
- Non physical navigation bar keys, but virtual ones that take up space and make every application look squished or weird.
Android doesn't squish applications. Android AOSP is made for the virtual buttons too and Google keeps pushing the virtual buttons through android updates and their nexus devices
- Non removable battery (if it dies, your phone dies with it)
Anyone with a minimum of knowledge in fixing electrical devices can replace the batteries. There's a SP mechanical guide that explains how to replace the battery with pictures and you can buy the battery itself from stellatech
- Washed out screen colors
True
- Non official support of 64GB MicroSD cards.
Probably not true as I've seen 64gb cards on the sp. But I don't know. Well it has support anyway, just "not official"
- Then the Xperia Sp is for you. I'm more than annoyed with it. Shoudl've waited for another phone, and the locked bootloader is horrible too.
I'm pretty happy with it, coming from a mid range Samsung device its 50x better
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Thanks everyone.
Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I think SP will be better for me , so I decided to buy SP
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Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I think SP will be better for me , so I decided to buy SP
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Think again... Had both S4 mini and now SP, but would go for S4 mini (9195 as it has LTE). The S4 mini is more fluid and smoother with no laggs or screen issues. But can't blame SP, when it works does the job...
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Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I think SP will be better for me , so I decided to buy SP
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Perfect decision dude....ul njoy it....
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Think again... Had both S4 mini and now SP, but would go for S4 mini (9195 as it has LTE). The S4 mini is more fluid and smoother with no laggs or screen issues. But can't blame SP, when it works does the job...
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xp has lte and doesnt have laggy touchwiz, i too have had both
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If you want:
- Non official support of 64GB MicroSD cards.
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What!? Xperia SP support 64GB SD cards? How?
I would say dont get the SP because of the horrible development
this phone doesnt have a single stable rom
SP. because you're in sp thread. ahah
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I would say dont get the SP because of the horrible development
this phone doesnt have a single stable rom
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Lol you do a better rom then! Besides there's plenty of Roms ok for daily use if installed correctly, I use eXistenZ.
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Xperia SP
Sony Xperia SP VS Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini
Display: 720 x 1280 pixels, 4.6 inches (~319 ppi pixel density) VS 540 x 960 pixels, 4.3 inches (~256 ppi pixel density)
Internal Memory: 8 GB (5.8 GB user available) + Micro SD VS 8 GB (5 GB user available) + Micro SD
RAM: 1 GB RAM VS 1.5 GB RAM
Processor: Qualcomm MSM8960T Snapdragon Dual-core 1.7 GHz Krait VS Qualcomm MSM8930 Snapdragon 400 Dual-core 1.7 GHz Krait
GPU: Adreno 320 VS Adreno 305
Battery: Li-Ion 2370 mAh battery VS Li-Ion 1900 mAh battery
Camera1: 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash VS 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Camera2: VGA VS 1.9 MP
Video: [email protected], video stabilization VS [email protected]
SP have better GPU, better battery, better display resolution, better general quality.
S4 Mini have better RAM and better secondary camera
And, FOR ME, Xperia SP is most beautiful, less expensive, best build quality, aluminum frame (non-plastic) and… he is different than most common phones ... it has status, personality, presence, elegance ... is a Sony ....
But, S4 Mini, is a great phone too…
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xp has lte and doesnt have laggy touchwiz, i too have had both
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S4 mini has also LTE (9195 version) and TW can be replaced with Google Now or other launcher.
My SP must be faulty...
Experiencing these issues :
screen unresponsive very often
many apps crashes or FC
very laggy UI - apps or keyboard take 10 seconds to work...
Like the SP but if these issues will continue just going back to Samsung or Motorola...
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S4 mini has also LTE (9195 version) and TW can be replaced with Google Now or other launcher.
My SP must be faulty...
Experiencing these issues :
screen unresponsive very often
many apps crashes or FC
very laggy UI - apps or keyboard take 10 seconds to work...
Like the SP but if these issues will continue just going back to Samsung or Motorola...
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I have none of the above, my phone is the best I've had
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Which one will be best? I want to buy one, but i'm in confuse about which one will be best. I saw that s4mini battery capacity is not so good, but configurations are awesome, SP also awesome. But still in confuse. Anyone there to suggest me please?
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Sp is competing with the Z series phones.. so discussing r thinking abt s4 mini is a waste of time
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Sp is competing with the Z series phones.. so discussing r thinking abt s4 mini is a waste of time
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Completely true....
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Hello ! First,im sorry if im not in right section.I coming from Galaxy S Advance subforum.Soon i will sell my Galaxy S Advance for like 100-120 euro,then i must collect more 100-150 euro to buy a sexy Sony Xperia M2 which will be released in April in shops with price like 200-289 euro.Im still wonder which to choose:
1)Xperia M2 :
-sexy and premium design
-4.8" screen
-snapdragon 400 quad core 1.2 Cortex A7
-adreno 305
-8 MP camera
-but not water and dust resistant (i wanted just water resistant)
2) Xperia V :
-sexy design too,but i like more design of M2
-4.3" screen ( its little small for me because that navigation bar in touch)
-13 MP camera
-MSM8960 Snapdragon Dual Core 1.5 GHz Krait
-Adreno 225
-water and dust resistant
-cool video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sabceviTlEE (0:11 look awesome)
I saw on internet that a Adreno 305 + a good processor its same with a dual processor + Adreno 225.I dont know if its right,but what i know its that both can run all games
Xperia that i want :
-screen size like M2
-design like M2
-gpu and processor like M2 or Xperia
- 8MP / 13MP camera
-i dont really want water and dust ressistant,but if it provide more health of phone i want it.
Its hard to choose between these two phones.I want suggestions.
I would go for the newer one.
maybe take a look on the hardware size also. not only screensize. so if you are fine with a 140mm height^^... then guess nothing speaks against the m2?
xperia m2: 139,6 x 71,1 x 8,6 mm / 4,8"
xperia V: 129 x 65 x 10.7 mm / 4,3"
xperia T: 129,4 x 67,3 x 9,35 mm / 4,55"
by the way, the XT has 4,55" screen with under 130mm height. no idea why the M2 is so big. i wouldnt buy a 4,8" phone with such dimensions
but that just my personal taste^^
T,V probably end with 4.3jb. who knows. not sure about the M2.
Also you should compare the camera reports in the net.
besides that, i guess the XM2 is a good phone, if you prefer the omnibalance design over arc design.
you should feel them in a shop.
Screen resolution on M2 is mediocre comparing to V or T or TX.
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Hello ! First,im sorry if im not in right section.I coming from Galaxy S Advance subforum.Soon i will sell my Galaxy S Advance for like 100-120 euro,then i must collect more 100-150 euro to buy a sexy Sony Xperia M2 which will be released in April in shops with price like 200-289 euro.Im still wonder which to choose:
1)Xperia M2 :
-sexy and premium design
-4.8" screen
-snapdragon 400 quad core 1.2 Cortex A7
-adreno 305
-8 MP camera
-but not water and dust resistant (i wanted just water resistant)
2) Xperia V :
-sexy design too,but i like more design of M2
-4.3" screen ( its little small for me because that navigation bar in touch)
-13 MP camera
-MSM8960 Snapdragon Dual Core 1.5 GHz Krait
-Adreno 225
-water and dust resistant
-cool video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sabceviTlEE (0:11 look awesome)
I saw on internet that a Adreno 305 + a good processor its same with a dual processor + Adreno 225.I dont know if its right,but what i know its that both can run all games
Xperia that i want :
-screen size like M2
-design like M2
-gpu and processor like M2 or Xperia
- 8MP / 13MP camera
-i dont really want water and dust ressistant,but if it provide more health of phone i want it.
Its hard to choose between these two phones.I want suggestions.
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Wait until Z2 is released and buy Z. It's water and dust resistant and a good phone. I'm sure you can buy it for less than 300 euros in April
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by the way, the XT has 4,55" screen with under 130mm height. no idea why the M2 is so big. i wouldnt buy a 4,8" phone with such dimensions
but that just my personal taste^^
besides that, i guess the XM2 is a good phone, if you prefer the omnibalance design over arc design.
you should feel them in a shop.
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I want big screen (not big than 5") because navigation bar will use my screen.I like very much design of M2.You are right: i better will feel them in a shop,but after i get enough money too
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Screen resolution on M2 is mediocre comparing to V or T or TX.
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This can change my opinion,it also have less ppi.
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Wait until Z2 is released and buy Z. It's water and dust resistant and a good phone. I'm sure you can buy it for less than 300 euros in April
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Price depends on every country,and in Romania right now its 400-520 euros if im not wrong...And what worrie me at xperia Z its unremovable battery.
Now im wonder other things too: .
1.Whats difference between much and less ppi?
2.I searched on google but not so many results. A screen with 4.3",high resolution and high ppi its better than a screen 4.8" with low resolution and low ppi?
3.I saw somewhere on xda that xperia v (and others too or all if im not wrong) its sold with 3 variants of display: Sony,Sharp (something like this) and Toshiba (which is more bad than Sharp). How can i know if display its made by Sony when i go in a shop?
4.Noob question: Lets take M2 as e.g.If i change dpi resolution after i root it,will not be ok?Resolution from specs its not same with this one?
Xperia Z its perfect for me,but battery its unremovable and it worrie me. Also,its expansive in my country.Its still hard what to choose between M2 and V.
ppi - pixels per inch, aiming at ~300 is great, less becomes more grainy, more is overkill in sharpness. A 720p resolution screen at 4.3 inches (Xperia V) is 342ppi and a bit of an overkill in sharpness. Same resolution at 4.8 inches is 306ppi (Galaxy S3) and it's still sharp enough not to be grainy. Basically you're stretching pixels (making them bigger) with each added inch unless you increase resolution (and you cannot increase above max screen resolution).
1080p resolution at 5" inches is pretty pointless (consumes more power probably also, more pixels to display etc). At 7 inches it's pretty great, sitting at 323ppi (nexus 7 2013).
dpi is something else entirely.
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Personally, I'd probably pick Xperia V from those 2, mainly for the ppi. Xperia ZR would be ideal. Xperia Z would be the next choice.
If you can get a ZR for the same price as M2 then i would go for that instead. ZR is like the V. It's waterproof, slightly bigger screen, way better battery life and quad core snapdragon S4 with Adreno 300.
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Personally, I'd probably pick Xperia V from those 2, mainly for the ppi. Xperia ZR would be ideal. Xperia Z would be the next choice.
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If you can get a ZR for the same price as M2 then i would go for that instead. ZR is like the V. It's waterproof, slightly bigger screen, way better battery life and quad core snapdragon S4 with Adreno 300.
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I dont want Xperia Z just because battery its unremovable.Xperia ZR its seem nice,as its have removable battery too and it is 400 euros here.Another question: how much inch will take navigation bar from 4.55"? How much left?
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I dont want Xperia Z just because battery its unremovable.Xperia ZR its seem nice,as its have removable battery too and it is 400 euros here.Another question: how much inch will take navigation bar from 4.55"? How much left?
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Navbar takes about 1cm of vertical screen size. Don't know the inch tho.
However, there are several apps and mods around that allow a smaller navbar. So don't worry too much about that
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Navbar takes about 1cm of vertical screen size. Don't know the inch tho.
However, there are several apps and mods around that allow a smaller navbar. So don't worry too much about that
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My last questions and i will decide
1.TFT screen its good?
2.Design of xperia v its like e.g. M2? I mean,its curved at frames or in top /bottom of phone?I cant make difference in picture.
3.I saw on some websites that waterproof its voided in warranty?Its true?
4.I saw somewhere on xda that xperia v (and others too or all if im not wrong) its sold with 3 variants of display: Sony,Sharp (something like this) and Toshiba (which is more bad than Sharp). How can i know if display its made by Sony when i go in a shop?
5.It have ambient light sensor?What about OTG?
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My last questions and i will decide
1.TFT screen its good?
2.Design of xperia v its like e.g. M2? I mean,its curved at frames or in top /bottom of phone?I cant make difference in picture.
3.I saw on some websites that waterproof its voided in warranty?Its true?
4.I saw somewhere on xda that xperia v (and others too or all if im not wrong) its sold with 3 variants of display: Sony,Sharp (something like this) and Toshiba (which is more bad than Sharp). How can i know if display its made by Sony when i go in a shop?
5.It have ambient light sensor?What about OTG?
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1.
TFT:
+ much higher max brightness
+ more efficient on low brightness than led displays (with exceptions)
LED:
+ more contrast and color intensity (might even look unrealistic)
+ black themes save lots of energy, as the screen is practically off when showing black pixels.
3.
This waterproof thing is quite risky with all phones. The reason is that the charger cover looses its waterproofness with time. And how might you prove to Sony that the charger cover was actually closed when you put your phone into the water, while the indicator within the cover had turned red of water?
4. You can check by dialing *#*#SERVICE#*#* at the XV you want to buy. Then a menu will pop up and you just need to check the touch firmware version. If it's type b, you have the Sony display.
5. XV does have an ambient light sensor, however this one is only capable of registring values up to ~ 180 lux.
You will however not notice this issue when using the phone
Also, OTG should be possible, as I noticed the system app related to this.
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1.
TFT:
+ much higher max brightness
+ more efficient on low brightness than led displays (with exceptions)
LED:
+ more contrast and color intensity (might even look unrealistic)
+ black themes save lots of energy, as the screen is practically off when showing black pixels.
3.
This waterproof thing is quite risky with all phones. The reason is that the charger cover looses its waterproofness with time. And how might you prove to Sony that the charger cover was actually closed when you put your phone into the water, while the indicator within the cover had turned red of water?
4. You can check by dialing *#*#SERVICE#*#* at the XV you want to buy. Then a menu will pop up and you just need to check the touch firmware version. If it's type b, you have the Sony display.
5. XV does have an ambient light sensor, however this one is only capable of registring values up to ~ 180 lux.
You will however not notice this issue when using the phone
Also, OTG should be possible, as I noticed the system app related to this.
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Can you answer at 2. question from #11 post ?
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_v-review-877p2.php
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Can you answer at 2. question from #11 post ?
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Didn't really understand your question, sorry
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Didn't really understand your question, sorry
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1.Xperia V look like e.g. Xperia L ?
2.M2 screen its so bad?
3.I saw somewhere that a dual cpu ( e.g. dual 1.5 ghz from Xperia V) and andreno 225 (e.g. from xperia v) have same performance with a dual cpu (e.g. 1ghz) or quad core(e.g. M2 processor) and adreno 305.Its true?
4. How i can write service at dialer? ( *#*#SERVICE#*#* ). And 3 manufacturer display are available for all xperia (e.g. M2 too) ??
5.You are sure that type b of display its sony manufacturer?Because i want sony
These are my last questions.
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1.Xperia V look like e.g. Xperia L ?
2.M2 screen its so bad?
3.I saw somewhere that a dual cpu ( e.g. dual 1.5 ghz from Xperia V) and andreno 225 (e.g. from xperia v) have same performance with a dual cpu (e.g. 1ghz) or quad core(e.g. M2 processor) and adreno 305.Its true?
4. How i can write service at dialer? ( *#*#SERVICE#*#* ). And 3 manufacturer display are available for all xperia (e.g. M2 too) ??
5.You are sure that type b of display its sony manufacturer?Because i want sony
These are my last questions.
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1. Xperia V has a curved back, being 0.7cm high at the slimmest point. Also, there is some kind of dark silver colored frame on the side of the phone. I think the design is quite similar to Xperia L, however the pet button is a little different (small and in the same color as the silver frame, as opposed to the bigger on/off button of the 2013 Xperia devices)
If this doesn't answer your question, just check images on Google.
2. Don't know anything about M2 screen, but as XV screen is said to be extremely good, it's not so likely that M2 screen is better. But I don't know. ^^
3. This one is partially true.. When I started tweaking my phone some months ago, I managed to beat the S4 in 3D benchmark. So, compared to the device's resolution, the gpu is pretty good.
However, nothing really can replace a quad core. It's just faster.. The cpu is actually the only thing of my phone that I'm not happy with. ^^
The ui is still extremely smooth, however (thanks to the wonderful 4.3 update ^^)
4. Just write the numbers that are on the dialer keys, like you were typing on a t9 keyboard.
You'll have to check the M2 forums for this display stuff.
I only know the XV displays.
5. Well, I am sure I read the character b in a thread some time ago, but I can't confirm if the information given the is correct. (However, it is likely )
My advice: Get the Z1 compact, or a similar device.. M2 screen resolution is too small (imo), and XV cpu not too awesome
Also, consider that the battery and ram size of the devices are important when buying.
768mb as the XV has sound much, but 4.3 ram management is quite bad, and even with 4 apps in background, I have only 150mb left.. So check of M2 has more ram, it is pretty useful, also for playing games
And the XV's battery is quite small, it only lasts one day of normal usage for me. Or 2 hours of 3d gaming.
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768mb as the XV has sound much, but 4.3 ram management is quite bad, and even with 4 apps in background, I have only 150mb left.. So check of M2 has more ram, it is pretty useful, also for playing games
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Both phones have 1GB RAM.
@WhiteNeo : Z1 compact have unremovable battery.Phones with this typw of battery worrie me... Still prety hard what to choose between V and M2...Im waiting for a review of display and then i will choose...
Thank you for answers guys !
I've been using Xperia V for more than a year now. I would recommend you to pick the V than M2. I compared my V with my friend's M2, V seems to have better sceen, a lil bit faster processor. But I have to warn you those water resistant cover are very easy to fail, mine failed after 10 months of using and I'm a very careful user though.
Hope this can help