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[Q] Unknown App Flashing When Toggling Wifi

Last night I was at home and noticed my wifi wasn't on, so I used the quick settings in the shade to toggle it. After a few seconds, wifi connected, and some unknown app took focus and closed repeatedly. After a few moments, it stopped and all was well.
I thought it was strange, so I turned wifi back off and the same thing happened. I rebooted, tried again, and got the same result. I was trying to think of a way to see what was happening, so I tried using the Screen Record function in Gravity Box, which didn't help much, because it happens so fast, and no info is displayed, just a black window that goes away quickly.
I then turned on the CPU usage in Developer Options to see if anything consistently came to the top when toggling. I saw a few apps each time Plume (Twitter), and Maildroid (email) were two of them. Both of these apps behave differently on wifi and 3G/4G (push vs. pull), so thought -maybe- it could be something with that. I uninstalled both of those, rebooted and tried again, getting the same result.
I recorded the screen when this was happening with the CPU usage displayed, and was wondering if anyone has any ideas? I don't really want to uninstall and reinstall EVERY app on my phone, so I was hoping someone may have seen this before or see something I'm missing when watching it happen.
Video: https://copy.com/8L6VTsqcdbUjVTz
Thanks for any input anyone can offer!

Do you check virus from your phone ?

I am also having this, seems to be due to 4.4.2 OTA, which I continue to delay as I am rooted.
Mine doens't only happen with wifi change, but also just randomly when using hangouts, keyboard stays out but hangouts min -> maxes quickly. I have tried freezing the update apps but it apparently didn't do anything as I was still asked to update earlier.

Only hangouts? I have that app disabled.in the app settings.

I can't say for sure that being on 4.4.2 fixed it, but I am on 4.4.2 now and it is not happening anymore.
I unlocked my bootloader and did the 4.4.2 SBF, unlocked and rooted. I installed probably 99% of the same apps (only ditched 1-2 that I never used anymore) and I am not having the flashing issue anymore.
Hard to tell for certain if the pending OTA was the cause, but it may have been.

[Q] Battery dying in 12 hours! - Solved

Hey guys,
For some reason my Gear dies in half a day and I can't work out why. I'm using Skin's modded Tizen ROM but have been doing so for months and this has just started to happen.
- I have no apps installed;
- I don't have auto on when I raise my wrist, although I've tried it with this on and makes no difference;
- I've reset the phone to factory settings. It was actually fine during the day. Put it in my drawer over night, woke up 7 hours later and it had gone from 75% to dead!
- Reset it AGAIN and it's still muffed!;
- Uninstalled the Gear s/w and reinstalled to no avail.
I may be barking up the wrong tree here, but it seemed to coincide with the orange coloured version of the Gear manager. Does anyone have the apk for the previous version where it was all white with a colourful top border please? Or failing that, have any idea what the hell my watch thinks it's up to?
Thanks!
EDIT
Solution
1. Deleted the Gear software (and checked for any remainders in the file manager...although personally I found none);
2. Hard reset the watch, just in case;
3. Installed Gear Manager 2.1.14071502 (courtesy of Brendo);
4. Paired and got it all working well. This alone sorted the battery life which was nice.
5. I let the software update automatically; (obviously bypassing the dodgy version)!
6. Boom! It works fine with the latest app!

Did you try resetting watch? Check link in my sig for older versions of gm

Brendo said:
Did you try resetting watch? Check link in my sig for older versions of gm
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Yep I've also reset the watch on two occasions. Still dying within 9 hours Cheers for the apk's though, I'll see if that makes any difference. Otherwise I may have to ditch Skin's ROM and try the official - see if that helps.

I am getting almost the same thing over the last few days. My Gear Manager updated to a newer version and I have had the issue ever since. Idk what about updating that on my phone would have to do with the Gears battery life but I have changed a few settings on my notifications to see if that is going to help. I also keep getting "saproviders has stopped" CONSTANTLY. Was popping up every 3 seconds and I could not do anything with my phone. Finally got into Titanium and froze that app and I have had no more issues with that on my phone but I don't think that is cause my Gear to have poor battery life would it? I may have to go back to a older version of Gear Manager.

Similar thing for me with saproviders although it was happening because I had disabled Unified Daemon (EUR) process. Reenabled it and that went....although sometimes the UD(EUR) drains my phone battery and is really only used for weather updates.
As for the draining issue, I'm having a go with Gear Manager 2.1.14071502 and seeing if it makes any difference. So far it is, but I will report my findings back in 24hrs!

jonboyuk said:
Similar thing for me with saproviders although it was happening because I had disabled Unified Daemon (EUR) process. Reenabled it and that went....although sometimes the UD(EUR) drains my phone battery and is really only used for weather updates.
As for the draining issue, I'm having a go with Gear Manager 2.1.14071502 and seeing if it makes any difference. So far it is, but I will report my findings back in 24hrs!
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That is exactly the version I downloaded also. Gonna have to figure out how to get it to stop wanting to auto update to the newer versions. Just gonna set my settings and not go back to gear manager for awhile. See if it makes a difference for my Gears battery life before I go looking at anything else.

Okay that has fixed it, going back to Gear Manager 2.1.14071502! The watch has been on for 3.5 hours and is still at 100% rather than 55% as it was yesterday!!!
WTF Samsung?!?!
What the hell have they done with their latest Gear app? It must be causing some sort of wakelock on the watch itself.
Guess I'll wait for a month for newer releases.

jonboyuk said:
Okay that has fixed it, going back to Gear Manager 2.1.14071502! The watch has been on for 3.5 hours and is still at 100% rather than 55% as it was yesterday!!!
WTF Samsung?!?!
What the hell have they done with their latest Gear app? It must be causing some sort of wakelock on the watch itself.
Guess I'll wait for a month for newer releases.
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Good to know about the Gear Manager, I was gonna suggest a reset , but doing the reset via "recovery" , instead of selecting "download" like when using Odin, you select "recovery" and it resets also. I've done the reset that way in the past and it fixed my issues. I had looked all over the Tizen OS for battery stats with no luck. Maybe the Gear somehow stash's the stats or something on the phone instead...? Hmm, I'm gonna dig around in gear manager..
Chris

noellenchris said:
Good to know about the Gear Manager, I was gonna suggest a reset , but doing the reset via "recovery" , instead of selecting "download" like when using Odin, you select "recovery" and it resets also. I've done the reset that way in the past and it fixed my issues. I had looked all over the Tizen OS for battery stats with no luck. Maybe the Gear somehow stash's the stats or something on the phone instead...? Hmm, I'm gonna dig around in gear manager..
Chris
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Yea have a look Chris. Actually I did reset via the GM first time, the second time I did it via the hardware...as in hold power, keep tapping it and reset that way. Both ways made little unfortunately.
My watch was still on 97% after 8 hours of none use over night so I'm pretty sure it's GM. However, now it wants to update and I literally cannot stop it If I say no, it exits the app, if I say yes the obvious happens. How can I block it?
Also, just for fun I've let it run the update. I know the first version of the 'orange GM' had issues and Samsung updated that immediately. I'm speculating over whether that first cocked up version brought over an issue into the latest one. Thereby if I go from an even older version to the latest, the issue may disappear... as always, I'll keep posting results.

after downgrading GM to previous version, my battery life also improved, after 9 hours of having it at work, taking some pics, sync to internet i had 70% left. gorgeous!
i will never ever press update again. each update only brings more bugs and no new functionality.

Well now I want to potentially throw a curve ball...although we'll see by tomorrow. After downgrading to 2.1.14071502 then upgrading to the latest my gear has been sat idle for 2 hours and sits at 100% battery life.
If this works, it means the previous version of the latest software created some kind of bug and carried itself through to the latest revision. So - this *may* have sorted it. I'll have to keep an eye on it for now but it's looking promising.

i did downgrade but it force app to upgrade or it will stop

Well I've never double posted before in my life! Not sure how that happened - apologies

Right it appears to be fixed (finally).
24 hours - 8% battery use - using the latest Gear software...GREAT!
Theory
The first version of the new batch of gear software had some weird bug causing a wakelock on the watch. Upgrading the app didn't remove it.
What I did
1. Deleted the Gear software (and checked for any remainders in the file manager...although personally I found none);
2. Hard reset the watch, just in case;
3. Installed Gear Manager 2.1.14071502 (courtesy of Brendo);
4. Paired and got it all working well. This alone sorted the battery life which was nice.
5. I let the software update automatically; (obviously bypassing the dodgy version)!
6. Boom! It works fine with the latest app!
All of that said, you may be able to skip steps 3-5 and directly install the latest version....but I tried that and for some reason I still has horrendous battery life.
I'm not sure why the steps above fixed it, but they did. So have a go if this is pi**ing you off as it may just work.
Cheers!

@jonboyuk I've done what you did ,didnt work , even downloaded latest version 2.2.14092299 from @Brendo but still keeps the going to 2.2.14090599 and saprovider FC , i did clean data saprovider and uninstall it worked , but after restarting gear and re-connect it back as it was even uninstalling saprovider wont help anymore.
so now its draining battery so quick. and media control not working.

jonboyuk said:
Yea have a look Chris. Actually I did reset via the GM first time, the second time I did it via the hardware...as in hold power, keep tapping it and reset that way. Both ways made little unfortunately.
My watch was still on 97% after 8 hours of none use over night so I'm pretty sure it's GM. However, now it wants to update and I literally cannot stop it If I say no, it exits the app, if I say yes the obvious happens. How can I block it?
Also, just for fun I've let it run the update. I know the first version of the 'orange GM' had issues and Samsung updated that immediately. I'm speculating over whether that first cocked up version brought over an issue into the latest one. Thereby if I go from an even older version to the latest, the issue may disappear... as always, I'll keep posting results.
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I ran the same previous version of GM you did. I got GREAT battery life with it. Completely fixed my problem. Now I do have that stubborn update that keeps popping. This is what I do. I click GM app. Update popup comes up and says Cancel or Update. I click the update and when the DL starts, I hit the home button on my GS4 to minimize the app and then i hold the Home button to clear all apps which shuts down the GM app and kills the update. Then I go back to GM app and it does not ask me to update any more. It stays away until I reboot the phone normally. Temp fix i guess but Ill look into it more and see if there is a way to completely stop it.
mjrshark said:
@jonboyuk I've done what you did ,didnt work , even downloaded latest version 2.2.14092299 from @Brendo but still keeps the going to 2.2.14090599 and saprovider FC , i did clean data saprovider and uninstall it worked , but after restarting gear and re-connect it back as it was even uninstalling saprovider wont help anymore.
so now its draining battery so quick. and media control not working.
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I had this issue. I went into Titanium Backup and froze the SAProviders app. Stopped the popup because it was constantly popping up and was very annoying and could not use my phone at all. Frezzing the app solved the pop up but the bad battery life still stayed until i reverted back to a older version of the GM app like I said in the comment above this one. Still looking for a way to perm stop the update from popping up.

Downgrde to previous GM
jonboyuk said:
Hey guys,
For some reason my Gear dies in half a day and I can't work out why. I'm using Skin's modded Tizen ROM but have been doing so for months and this has just started to happen.
- I have no apps installed;
- I don't have auto on when I raise my wrist, although I've tried it with this on and makes no difference;
- I've reset the phone to factory settings. It was actually fine during the day. Put it in my drawer over night, woke up 7 hours later and it had gone from 75% to dead!
- Reset it AGAIN and it's still muffed!;
- Uninstalled the Gear s/w and reinstalled to no avail.
I may be barking up the wrong tree here, but it seemed to coincide with the orange coloured version of the Gear manager. Does anyone have the apk for the previous version where it was all white with a colourful top border please? Or failing that, have any idea what the hell my watch thinks it's up to?
Thanks!
EDIT
Solution
1. Deleted the Gear software (and checked for any remainders in the file manager...although personally I found none);
2. Hard reset the watch, just in case;
3. Installed Gear Manager 2.1.14071502 (courtesy of Brendo);
4. Paired and got it all working well. This alone sorted the battery life which was nice.
5. I let the software update automatically; (obviously bypassing the dodgy version)!
6. Boom! It works fine with the latest app!
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Every time I try to go back it re-installs 599. Even if I stop it by holding down the home button and close all apps. I re-open GM and it goes right back to downloading additional software. Has anyone figured a way around this? My watch is dead in 6 hours the way it is now so it's basically useless...

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Every time I try to go back it re-installs 599. Even if I stop it by holding down the home button and close all apps. I re-open GM and it goes right back to downloading additional software. Has anyone figured a way around this? My watch is dead in 6 hours the way it is now so it's basically useless...
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first you need to uninstall new Gear Manager, then disable Samsung Apps (Settings->Apps), and then install older GM, you choose. That helped me to disable auto GM update from Samsung, what was very nervous...

Guys, I removed with Titanium all the Gear stuff and installed the 14071502 version without a problem. Freezing SAProviders stopped the update notification from showing up. But my Gear still uses around 10%/hour of battery Anything else I can try?
Sent from my SM-N9005

Daved+ said:
Guys, I removed with Titanium all the Gear stuff and installed the 14071502 version without a problem. Freezing SAProviders stopped the update notification from showing up. But my Gear still uses around 10%/hour of battery Anything else I can try?
Sent from my SM-N9005
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I have also installed the 2.1.14071502 version. To prevent forcing to upgrade to 2.2, I just disabled Wifi and 3G.. so, it only installs the software of this version. When I got paired, I go to Gear Manager Setup and uncheck the Automatic Update .. so, I only have that version. For goprovider FC, I installed the version from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2758364 (goprovider-signed-20140529.apk )
And that's all! I have a working goprovider, with 2.1 Manager.... BUT, this version doesn't allow the notification from any app! So, I don't get notifications from WhatsApp, FB, skype.. none! So, do you have another later version (not 2.2)? or any other way to get Whatsapp,etc notifications?

[Q] Google Now Launcher text is blurred

I'm not sure if this is happening on other devices. My Moto X (2013) running 4.4.2 (I am on Republic Wireless) started doing something funny about a week ago. Randomly, I'll unlock my screen to see that any and all text within Google Now Launcher is blurred out. The only way I've been able to fix it is by resetting the device. Clearing cache doesn't work for me. I suppose I could try uninstalling and reinstalling, but I'm not sure if that would really fix an underlying problem if there is one. Does anyone have any ideas?

I had this happen to me one day in an app.. I think it was Reddit Is Fun or Fenix (Twitter). I don't think it happened when I was unlocking the screen, I was already in the app and using it. The screen may have timed out and I unlocked back to it with that app already open, but I distinctly remember the blocky letters on the entire screen, and I could still scroll and stuff. I think I might have pressed Home and my home screen icons had the labels like that too, so I just rebooted and it went away.
I do not use GEL, so I don't think it's related to that. It happened once, I rebooted my phone and it never came back.
I am on stock 4.4.4 XT1060.

G4 Home Screens Changed Overnight

I woke up this morning to something weird! Overnight, my phone seems to have taken the pesky Sprint Default Update on it's own! My home screens reverted to 3 pages (I had 5 set up) plus it moved some of my app icons around. Even folders that I had set up were back to the app drawer! Did anyone ever have this happen? Is there a setting I need to change to NOT apply updates automatically? This is not a big issue but I really don't want it to happen again! This is on my new warranty replacement phone...my old LGG4 kept asking to install the Sprint Default Update but I was able to decline it. This phone seems to have updated it on it's own!
I'm pretty sure it was the Sprint Default OTA Update as it also re-added some of the bloat apps that I had previously deleted.

RocketFoot said:
I woke up this morning to something weird! Overnight, my phone seems to have taken the pesky Sprint Default Update on it's own! My home screens reverted to 3 pages (I had 5 set up) plus it moved some of my app icons around. Even folders that I had set up were back to the app drawer! Did anyone ever have this happen? Is there a setting I need to change to NOT apply updates automatically? This is not a big issue but I really don't want it to happen again! This is on my new warranty replacement phone...my old LGG4 kept asking to install the Sprint Default Update but I was able to decline it. This phone seems to have updated it on it's own!
I'm pretty sure it was the Sprint Default OTA Update as it also re-added some of the bloat apps that I had previously deleted.
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I doubt Sprint would touch that. You might want to shutoff Automatic updates in Google Play.
You running stock launcher?

mswlogo said:
I doubt Sprint would touch that. You might want to shutoff Automatic updates in Google Play.
You running stock launcher?
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Stock launcher...Google Play auto update is always off and I did double check.

I'm not really sure what changed, i couldn't find any software revision as far as the phone software, but i can tell you after taking the ZV6 update and rebooting/setting up the phone, later that day a prompt showed up telling me the phone had to reboot for some kind of update... So there was something forced at some point that wasn't part of the ZV6 update.

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I'm not really sure what changed, i couldn't find any software revision as far as the phone software, but i can tell you after taking the ZV6 update and rebooting/setting up the phone, later that day a prompt showed up telling me the phone had to reboot for some kind of update... So there was something forced at some point that wasn't part of the ZV6 update.
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Yes, I am pretty sure this is what down with mine too...but I was asleep and didn't see it happen. All I know is that I haven't had the Sprint Default Update notification show up since. I don't believe it was related to ZV6 at all...just a coincidence.

Home screen weather app disappearing?

For the past two days the temperature display on the stock home screen has disappeared. Additionally, I can't figured out how to access the Google Weather app at all. Restarting the phone brings back the temperature/app to the home screen for a few hours but then it disappears again.
Any suggestions?
Thank you

EvanVanVan said:
For the past two days the temperature display on the stock home screen has disappeared. Additionally, I can't figured out how to access the Google Weather app at all. Restarting the phone brings back the temperature/app to the home screen for a few hours but then it disappears again.
Any suggestions?
Thank you
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Go to the Google app and tap the weather in the upper left of the screen. Then the options ellipsis "add to homescreen" and you'll always have access. Mine disappears at least 2 or 3 times / day then all of a sudden it's back. But I don't sweat it now with the home screen weather option.

Thank you, not a bad workaround..it still sucks to not be able to see the temperature at a glance on the lock screen though.

After googling it a little further I seem to have found a fix, clearing the Google App storage. As soon as I did the temperature return to the home screen, hopefully permanently. And hopefully I don't regret clearing over a GB of data from the app lol. I'm not sure what it had saved.

EvanVanVan said:
After googling it a little further I seem to have found a fix, clearing the Google App storage. As soon as I did the temperature return to the home screen, hopefully permanently. And hopefully I don't regret clearing over a GB of data from the app lol. I'm not sure what it had saved.
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So what's the verdict? Did it remain or disappear again?

bobby janow said:
So what's the verdict? Did it remain or disappear again?
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Lol it did disappear for a while yesterday afternoon but was back again this morning on it's own so...
Fortunately, I haven't noticed any other differences with the Google app. It did take a while to load and get back up to speed after I cleared the storage so I think most of the important stuff was restored automatically

Power management, destroyer of worlds.
Any power management apps are suspect, avoid using 3rd party ones.
Check to make sure this isn't what's picking it off.
No clue where or how many places it's found on this variant.
Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is active.
Individual app settings may also be misconfigured for battery savings and background data.
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Clear system cache.

EvanVanVan said:
Lol it did disappear for a while yesterday afternoon but was back again this morning on it's own so...
Fortunately, I haven't noticed any other differences with the Google app. It did take a while to load and get back up to speed after I cleared the storage so I think most of the important stuff was restored automatically
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Yeah I was afraid of that. It has a mind of its own and does what it pleases. I've actually seen it disappear and reappear in the time it takes to get in and out of the shower. I also use a VPN but it doesn't matter, I've tried it both with it on and off. Same result.

bobby janow said:
Yeah I was afraid of that. It has a mind of its own and does what it pleases. I've actually seen it disappear and reappear in the time it takes to get in and out of the shower. I also use a VPN but it doesn't matter, I've tried it both with it on and off. Same result.
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Hmm, yeah, for troubleshooting purposes I should also mention I use an always-on VPN too (wireguard to my home network where I have Pi-Hole setup). Initially, I thought that it could be Pi-Hole blocking related but after restarting my phone with it the VPN off a few days ago, like you said it still disappeared eventually.
lol fwiw, I sent a feedback message through the Google app describing the issue, maybe at some point they find the issue.
blackhawk said:
Power management, destroyer of worlds.
Any power management apps are suspect, avoid using 3rd party ones.
Check to make sure this isn't what's picking it off.
No clue where or how many places it's found on this variant.
Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is active.
Individual app settings may also be misconfigured for battery savings and background data.
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Clear system cache.
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Thanks for the suggestion, Google App is listed as Active but some of others aren't...I'm trying to narrow it down more before I start messing with power management stuff. My phone is pretty much as stock as it can be

bobby janow said:
Yeah I was afraid of that. It has a mind of its own and does what it pleases. I've actually seen it disappear and reappear in the time it takes to get in and out of the shower. I also use a VPN but it doesn't matter, I've tried it both with it on and off. Same result.
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Try a network reset... and clear the system cache (this cures many strange glitches).

I just had to do a full Factory reset, and still this get removed randomly. Pretty annoying since Google wont let us remove it, and I don't know of any good solutions to remove it like we can the Google search bar, thanks to eg.
I really like the work-around outlined above.

andybones said:
I just had to do a full Factory reset, and still this get removed randomly. Pretty annoying since Google wont let us remove it, and I don't know of any good solutions to remove it like we can the Google search bar, thanks to eg.
I really like the work-around outlined above.
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And just a little added info, my wife has the P5 also and doesn't know what a VPN is no less uses one. Same thing happens to her phone at different times than mine. Both of us 100% stock.

andybones said:
I just had to do a full Factory reset, and still this get removed randomly. Pretty annoying since Google wont let us remove it, and I don't know of any good solutions to remove it like we can the Google search bar, thanks to eg.
I really like the work-around outlined above.
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With a factory reset even if does work the issue is likely to reoccur. Best to find the root cause.
Factory resets are useful for viruses, rootkits, major firmware updates and boot loops.
The modern Android OS can be surprisingly secure, robust and long lived.
Those who update/upgrade will not see this longevity and will be forced to do factory resets for optimum functionality (assuming the upgrade doesn't ruin the user experience, frequently it does). Google can't help itself*... you can.
*constant change is the rule and frequently Google will maim and degrade their product usability even cancel it. It's their nature...

blackhawk said:
With a factory reset even if does work the issue is likely to reoccur. Best to find the root cause.
Factory resets are useful for viruses, rootkits, major firmware updates and boot loops.
The modern Android OS can be surprisingly secure, robust and long lived.
Those who update/upgrade will not see this longevity and will be forced to do factory resets for optimum functionality (assuming the upgrade doesn't ruin the user experience, frequently it does). Google can't help itself*... you can.
*constant change is the rule and frequently Google will maim and degrade their product usability even cancel it. It's their nature...
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I have never had this problem, but I have wiped a couple of times now after updating to the next version of 12, and I've been on it since DP1.
Maybe a wipe couldn't hurt to try. Save any apps' .apks that you didn't get from the Play Store to G Drive or Dropbox or something like that. Force a backup for everything with adb shell to backup to G Drive (Google's backup system is surprisingly good now) and after restoring it, all you'll have to do is sign into apps again. Also, save anything you want to keep in /downloads.
Wiping is really only a minor inconvenience if you do preparation and/or prepare for the possibility of it being something you have to do beforehand.
That being said, I really miss the days of TWRP backups and an extSD

xunholyx said:
I have never had this problem, but I have wiped a couple of times now after updating to the next version of 12, and I've been on it since DP1.
Maybe a wipe couldn't hurt to try. Save any apps' .apks to G Drive or something like that. Force a backup for everything with adb shell to backup to G Drive (Google's backup system is surprisingly good now), and after restoring it all you'll have to do is sign into apps again. Also, save anything you want to keep in /downloads.
Wiping is really only a minor inconvenience if you do preparation and/or prepare for the possibility of it being something you have to do beforehand.
That being said, I really miss the days of TWRP backups and an extSD
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I don't use any Google backup, except Gmail which stores it automatically, on my 10+, all critical data goes on the data drive ie SD card.
That in turn is redundantly backed up on a flashstick and hdds.
Texts, AT&T backup.
Google play Services runs only as needed. Google Backup Transport, Framework and Firebase never run... I killed Google as much as was practical.
So the no cloud apps running draining bandwidth and battery. I took some time, used trial/error and thought it through. I've had it with big sister Gookill Hard experience has taught me not to trust Google over the last 15+ years. Got tried of getting burned. Gmail was so much better 12 years ago, it's zenith... a prime example of the incompetence of Google. Or Picasso
I backup all my apps and updates with ApkExport so no Playstore is needed on a reload. Homescreen and themes are backup by Samsung StartSwitch. All critical apps like Poweramp, ColorNote, etc have their settings saved the the SD card, etc.
Basically I can do a full restore with no internet connection save text messages. Apps that don't permit saved backups may be lost but in the case of malware or an unknown issue that may be a good thing. After 2 back to back boot loops and factory resets over a year ago... I streamlined the time wasting reload process.
I expect to reload at 6 months or so when the OS started to show signs of age. Not so. All I do is minimum maintenance with SD Maid and the old Samsung Device Care cleaner. Of all my XP, XPx64, W7, Kitkat loads over the years this stock Pie load has proven to have aged exceptionally well. There were a couple times I had to do some serious witch hunting because of a rogue app or a hidden setting issue but was able to resolve it without damage to the OS.
So I just leave it be...
In my experience the Android Pie has proven to be robust and very versatile.
Because I'm running a stock AT&T 10+, TWRP backups are not possible

And just like that my weather is gone. Two beers at the local brewery and adios. I'll ask the Mrs. what the weather holds for tomorrow. Can I say, Ok Google you win, give me back my weather?

bobby janow said:
And just a little added info, my wife has the P5 also and doesn't know what a VPN is no less uses one. Same thing happens to her phone at different times than mine. Both of us 100% stock.
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This is my first Pixel, and I am loving it. Using a VPN for me just messes with the location, the bug is still random. Wish Google would fix this, or just let us remove the darn thing.
blackhawk said:
With a factory reset even if does work the issue is likely to reoccur. Best to find the root cause.
Factory resets are useful for viruses, rootkits, major firmware updates and boot loops.
The modern Android OS can be surprisingly secure, robust and long lived.
Those who update/upgrade will not see this longevity and will be forced to do factory resets for optimum functionality (assuming the upgrade doesn't ruin the user experience, frequently it does). Google can't help itself*... you can.
*constant change is the rule and frequently Google will maim and degrade their product usability even cancel it. It's their nature...
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Ok, I think some confusion by my post. I most certainly did NOT perform the factory reset in hopes to fix this Weather bug.. I was just stating that even on a fresh install this is still happening.. Google needs to address/fix it.
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I don't use any Google backup, except Gmail which stores it automatically, on my 10+, all critical data goes on the data drive ie SD card.
That in turn is redundantly backed up on a flashstick and hdds.
Texts, AT&T backup.
Google play Services runs only as needed. Google Backup Transport, Framework and Firebase never run... I killed Google as much as was practical.
So the no cloud apps running draining bandwidth and battery. I took some time, used trial/error and thought it through. I've had it with big sister Gookill Hard experience has taught me not to trust Google over the last 15+ years. Got tried of getting burned. Gmail was so much better 12 years ago, it's zenith... a prime example of the incompetence of Google. Or Picasso
I backup all my apps and updates with ApkExport so no Playstore is needed on a reload. Homescreen and themes are backup by Samsung StartSwitch. All critical apps like Poweramp, ColorNote, etc have their settings saved the the SD card, etc.
Basically I can do a full restore with no internet connection save text messages. Apps that don't permit saved backups may be lost but in the case of malware or an unknown issue that may be a good thing. After 2 back to back boot loops and factory resets over a year ago... I streamlined the time wasting reload process.
I expect to reload at 6 months or so when the OS started to show signs of age. Not so. All I do is minimum maintenance with SD Maid and the old Samsung Device Care cleaner. Of all my XP, XPx64, W7, Kitkat loads over the years this stock Pie load has proven to have aged exceptionally well. There were a couple times I had to do some serious witch hunting because of a rogue app or a hidden setting issue but was able to resolve it without damage to the OS.
So I just leave it be...
In my experience the Android Pie has proven to be robust and very versatile.
Because I'm running a stock AT&T 10+, TWRP backups are not possible
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I'm very confused by your posts. They are completely OT.
Are you even using the Pixel 5.
Heck, are you even on Android 11?
Please start a new thread, or find one that suits what you'd like to speak about, as this isn't the place to talk about de-Googleing, as much as I agree with it.

andybones said:
This is my first Pixel, and I am loving it. Using a VPN for me just messes with the location, the bug is still random. Wish Google would fix this, or just let us remove the darn thing.
Ok, I think some confusion by my post. I most certainly did NOT perform the factory reset in hopes to fix this Weather bug.. I was just stating that even on a fresh install this is still happening.. Google needs to address/fix it.
I'm very confused by your posts. They are completely OT.
Are you even using the Pixel 5.
Heck, are you even on Android 11?
Please start a new thread, or find one that suits what you'd like to speak about, as this isn't the place to talk about de-Googleing, as much as I agree with it.
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All Androids share common problems and solutions. I cross platform searches between manufacturers/devices/Android versions frequently to find solutions... otherwise my 10+/Pie still be a mess!
If the issue still remains after a factory reset it just proves the original settings may be misconfigured from the get go. Putting it in Safe mode would have been enough.
You need to play with it and start looking hard.
Cross platform as I described when doing Google searches and use multiple search engines.
You don't see me posting threads about issues I have until they're fixed. I try to post solutions only. Occasionally I acknowledge a known issue as glitches are common... as are work arounds.
As for Android 11, you have my sympathy. A lot of 3rd party diagnostic tools were lost starting with Q making your task harder.

bobby janow said:
So what's the verdict? Did it remain or disappear again?
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Just found this solution:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pixel_phones/comments/n6vxp4
That works for now The other tip I saw was rather than removing the new widget like in the video, keep it on another screen. For now I removed it but if it disappears again (which it probably will), I'm going to try that.

EvanVanVan said:
Just found this solution:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pixel_phones/comments/n6vxp4
That works for now The other tip I saw was rather than removing the new widget like in the video, keep it on another screen. For now I removed it but if it disappears again (which it probably will), I'm going to try that.
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I wonder if this will even be a thing when Android 12 comes out. As of beta 5 there is no weather on the lockscreen but it's not certain it will stay that way for release.