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Hello everyone. I know I'm a noob, but am hoping I can get some help anyway. Tried searching and not too many people are having the same problem, so I started a new thread.
Anyway, I used the one click root found in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348557
( I tried to post in that thread, but can't since I don't have 10 posts )
I'm new to hacking and I'll be honest. I only wanted to root my phone so I could use wireless tether, and then use Titanium Backup to freeze a lot of the bloatware on the phone. I have no desire to install a different ROM. I'm happy with the one it has, and happy to take the updates Verizon pushes. Everything was good until the latest update came through. When it downloaded, and rebooted, instead of updating, it booted in clockwork mod recovery. No matter what I tried, I couldn't get the update to go through.
So I settled on never updating again and froze the updater to prevent my phone from trying to update and going to CMR at random times. About 4 days later, my bluetooth quit working. Couldn't figure out why. Thought I was going to have to send it in for warranty work, so I tried to undo all the mods. I unfroze everything, and then hit the one click unroot button. It said it worked. Problem is, superuser is still installed with no way to uninstall.
My first question is this: How do I get superuser gone so my phone can be back to factory so they'll never know it was rooted?
Next I tried to go ahead and get the update since the unrooting process was supposed to have reinstalled stock recovery. Well, it didn't. I still ended up booting up into CMR again. STILL can't update even after unrooting. Double checked, and wireless tether and Titanium backup both say "no root". On a whim, I try the blue tooth and guess what. It worked. May not need to send the phone off for warranty work after all.
So my second question is this: Would freezing the updater cause the blue tooth to stop working? If so, how can I either keep it working or stop the updates without freezing the updater? It's like I have to choose between having blue tooth or having my phone randomly boot into CMR whenever it tries to update.
Third question, pertaining specifically to the one click root I linked to above: How can I get rid of the CMR? Is it possible to root the phone without installing CMR? If I can get it unrooted back to factory ( without superuser or CMR ), how can I root it again so that it doesn't install CMR and keeps the stock one?
I know this is a lot of question and I'm a noob, but I'm a noob willing to learn. If this problem has been encountered before, I apologize in advnace for not finding the appropriate thread. I tried.
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Yes freezing the software update app will cause your Bluetooth to stop working. I used a app called Gemini app manager to go change the permissions of the software update app so it did not have any permissions to do anything. I have not been bothered with update prompts since.
NewDroidXUser said:
My first question is this: How do I get superuser gone so my phone can be back to factory so they'll never know it was rooted?
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There's no need. MTMichaelson has come up with a easy way to keep your phone rooted during the upgrade from ZV7 to ZV8.
NewDroidXUser said:
So my second question is this: Would freezing the updater cause the blue tooth to stop working? If so, how can I either keep it working or stop the updates without freezing the updater? It's like I have to choose between having blue tooth or having my phone randomly boot into CMR whenever it tries to update.
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Yes it will. Several people have reported this in different threads. I'm not sure of a way around this, but I think others might have a way around it. If you follow MT's method to keep root during the upgrade, you want have to worry about it!
NewDroidXUser said:
Third question, pertaining specifically to the one click root I linked to above: How can I get rid of the CMR? Is it possible to root the phone without installing CMR? If I can get it unrooted back to factory ( without superuser or CMR ), how can I root it again so that it doesn't install CMR and keeps the stock one?
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There's no need to do this either since you can keep root and upgrade.
Here's what you need to do.
1) Go here and root your phone again.
2) Go here to upgrade to ZV8 while keeping root. There's also a method for reinstalling CWM as the upgrade will remove it.
This will: keep your root, get you upgraded, fix your bluetooth and keep CWM.
Good luck!
brad6360 said:
There's no need. MTMichaelson has come up with a easy way to keep your phone rooted during the upgrade from ZV7 to ZV8.
Yes it will. Several people have reported this in different threads. I'm not sure of a way around this, but I think others might have a way around it. If you follow MT's method to keep root during the upgrade, you want have to worry about it!
There's no need to do this either since you can keep root and upgrade.
Here's what you need to do.
1) Go here and root your phone again.
2) Go here to upgrade to ZV8 while keeping root. There's also a method for reinstalling CWM as the upgrade will remove it.
This will: keep your root, get you upgraded, fix your bluetooth and keep CWM.
Good luck!
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Ah, thanks. I'll post again to update how that went. Though, I'd like to keep the stock recovery. I'll try to do it without CWM.
latenighter49 said:
Yes freezing the software update app will cause your Bluetooth to stop working. I used a app called Gemini app manager to go change the permissions of the software update app so it did not have any permissions to do anything. I have not been bothered with update prompts since.
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How did you change permissions in Gemini? I turned off all the autorun features and was able to get Bluetooth working but I didn't see anything about permissions in the settings. I could have missed it though being at work and all. Will turning off all the autorun features of the Software Update app stop it from trying to download the update in the middle of the night when I'm not looking like it sounds like it should?
In gemeni select block app. It's the same as freezing in titanium backup.
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I decided to go ahead & root my S6 using the PingPong Root found here.
All went correctly, but when I go to open SuperSU I get the error 'There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!'
Any ideas on how to go about installing the binary needed? Thank you!
Muscle Nerd said:
I decided to go ahead & root my S6 using the PingPong Root found here.
All went correctly, but when I go to open SuperSU I get the error 'There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!'
Any ideas on how to go about installing the binary needed? Thank you!
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You are not rooted then. Try again.
12MaNy said:
You are not rooted then. Try again.
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Uninstalled both SuperSU & PingPong Root. Reinstalled and had got the same error as before.
This method is in beta, could the binary not be uploaded yet?
Muscle Nerd said:
Uninstalled both SuperSU & PingPong Root. Reinstalled and had got the same error as before.
This method is in beta, could the binary not be uploaded yet?
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What happens when you run get root on pingpong? Sounds like it's not rooting you. Either 1) you did not open supersu before you ran get root on ping pong. Or 2) it failed to get root (either it tells you failed or it reboots automatically due to kernel panic). If your not getting a pop up saying root was successful, reboot now is recommended, then your not rooted.
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What happens when you run get root on pingpong? Sounds like it's not rooting you. Either 1) you did not open supersu before you ran get root on ping pong. Or 2) it failed to get root (either it tells you failed or it reboots automatically due to kernel panic). If your not getting a pop up saying root was successful, reboot now is recommended, then your not rooted.
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I don't get that pop up. But my device does reboot.
I tried opening SuperSU prior to PingPong, but it only has the original error 'no binary'. After you press okay, it prompts you to installing SuperSU once again? Odd... Once you install the 'new version' and open that, it'll automatically open PingPong. From there I select 'Download data' then 'Get Root!'. Which then tells me to wait with a popup, and that is when my S6 reboots.
Ok. Now leaving supersu and pingpong installed, reopen pingpong, cancel the install of supersu. Place the phone on a flat surface. Try just 'get root' again. Sometimes background processes can flip out when pingpong panics the kernel to elevate it's privlages. It's taken me 4 or 5 tries a few times I've used pingpong (others only 1 time, I've had to Odin my S6 about 30 times so far lol)
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Ok. Now leaving supersu and pingpong installed, reopen pingpong, cancel the install of supersu. Place the phone on a flat surface. Try just 'get root' again. Sometimes background processes can flip out when pingpong panics the kernel to elevate it's privlages. It's taken me 4 or 5 tries a few times I've used pingpong (others only 1 time, I've had to Odin my S6 about 30 times so far lol)
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Thanks for the prompt response Dennis!
I opened PingPong, canceled the install of SuperSU, then selected 'Get Root!'. Says my device is not supported (Though it is in the thread for PingPong). I select download data, (Says Device updated, please try Get Root again.) then I select get root. Unfortunately it reboots my S6 after about 2-4 seconds. I'll keep trying!
Aye, do the same steps I said, but add the download data before get root. Try to do it after everything settles from boot but before starting anything else.
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Aye, do the same steps I said, but add the download data before get root. Try to do it after everything settles from boot but before starting anything else.
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Will do! If this doesn't work after a few dozen tries I may just have to wait for a more stable release, eh?
Muscle Nerd said:
Will do! If this doesn't work after a few dozen tries I may just have to wait for a more stable release, eh?
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That reminds me, what version are you using? Beta 6 or a different one?
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That reminds me, what version are you using? Beta 6 or a different one?
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Beta 6
Edit* Uninstalled both applications, and installed the 5.1 beta. When I select download data, it says to retry the Get Root as usual. Then I select Get Root, and it says 'Your device data is still not supported'.
Here's the quote from Idler in the thread. With option C. he says to possible do a factory reset? I have all of my contacts & photos backed up via my pc. Should I possible try and do a reset? Or do you think it's a waste of time.
Q: It just keeps rebooting, what can I do?
A: The exploit may panic the kernel and reboot your device. If the data is off, same could happen as well. When issue happens, try these:
a. Clean up background process before running root.
b. Turn on airplane mode after clicking "Download Data".
c. Backup your data and run factory reset.
d. Definitely avoid doing anything else when "wait!!!" appears.
If these doesn't help after 5 retries, there could be some issue, please collect the information in /proc/last_kmsg and send it to me.
Note: User reporting installing My Knox or enable other Knox feature (like enterprise provision or KNOX active protection) may cause reboot loop. Be cautious!
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Ok beta 5.1 does not have hot data then. What is your device? Check settings>about device>baseband
Also from the Q&A in pingpong root thread:
Q: It just keeps rebooting, what can I do?
A: The exploit may panic the kernel and reboot your device. If the data is off, same could happen as well. When issue happens, try these:
a. Clean up background process before running root.
b. Turn on airplane mode after clicking "Download Data".
c. Backup your data and run factory reset.
d. Definitely avoid doing anything else when "wait!!!" appears​
Make sure to try that.
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Ok beta 5.1 does not have hot data then. What is your device? Check settings>about device>baseband
Also from the Q&A in pingpong root thread:
Q: It just keeps rebooting, what can I do?
A: The exploit may panic the kernel and reboot your device. If the data is off, same could happen as well. When issue happens, try these:
a. Clean up background process before running root.
b. Turn on airplane mode after clicking "Download Data".
c. Backup your data and run factory reset.
d. Definitely avoid doing anything else when "wait!!!" appears​
Make sure to try that.
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I have the G925AUCU1AOE2. I've tried all of those aside from the reset
Muscle Nerd said:
I have the G925AUCU1AOE2. I've tried all of those aside from the reset
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Alright. Best bet. Is reboot. Let settle. Set screen timeout to 10 mins. Turn off all apps you have running in the background. Open pingpong. Download data. Turn on airplane mode. Place on desk. Run root. Don't touch until hopefully it says your rooted. Of course you'll need to I stall beta 6 again before you do the above.
If trying that 5 times doesn't work you'll have to head over to the pingpong thread cause I'm fresh out of ideas lol.
_Dennis_ said:
Alright. Best bet. Is reboot. Let settle. Set screen timeout to 10 mins. Turn off all apps you have running in the background. Open pingpong. Download data. Turn on airplane mode. Place on desk. Run root. Don't touch until hopefully it says your rooted. Of course you'll need to I stall beta 6 again before you do the above.
If trying that 5 times doesn't work you'll have to head over to the pingpong thread cause I'm fresh out of ideas lol.
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Haha, no worries! I will give that a go.
Yay or nay towards a reset? I have a feeling I'll go through the hassle of resetting my phone & I'll have the same error.
Back up with smart switch. Reset but do not download any app but pongpong. That should help with the error, as it's cause by apps in the background running usually. After root restore via smart switch. All your apps come back, just not the app data unfortunately
_Dennis_ said:
Back up with smart switch. Reset but do not download any app but pongpong. That should help with the error, as it's cause by apps in the background running usually. After root restore via smart switch. All your apps come back, just not the app data unfortunately
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Dennis, you are a legend! Finally got my S6 rooted after 2 long days.
Decided to go ahead and backup everything on my phone and do a complete factory reset. I did like you had said and only installed PingPong. Booted up the application, got a shut down like I did previously. Tried again, but closed all my running apps and when I was prompted to install SuperSU (even though it was installed when I ran it the first time) I went ahead and installed it once again. And voila, the root went successfully!
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Muscle Nerd said:
Dennis, you are a legend! Finally got my S6 rooted after 2 long days.
Decided to go ahead and backup everything on my phone and do a complete factory reset. I did like you had said and only installed PingPong. Booted up the application, got a shut down like I did previously. Tried again, but closed all my running apps and when I was prompted to install SuperSU (even though it was installed when I ran it the first time) I went ahead and installed it once again. And voila, the root went successfully!
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Glad to hear, now you just have to restore all your apps and stuff. I'd suggest titanium backup, back everything up and transfer to your computer. That way if you ever have to Odin you have all your apps set up and such for when you reroot after. Store them off the phone as Odin will wipe your phone completely usually.
_Dennis_ said:
Glad to hear, now you just have to restore all your apps and stuff. I'd suggest titanium backup, back everything up and transfer to your computer. That way if you ever have to Odin you have all your apps set up and such for when you reroot after. Store them off the phone as Odin will wipe your phone completely usually.
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Will do, thank you!
Tom Dsgn said:
Dennis, you are a legend! Finally got my S6 rooted after 2 long days.
Decided to go ahead and backup everything on my phone and do a complete factory reset. I did like you had said and only installed PingPong. Booted up the application, got a shut down like I did previously. Tried again, but closed all my running apps and when I was prompted to install SuperSU (even though it was installed when I ran it the first time) I went ahead and installed it once again. And voila, the root went successfully!
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How do i root my s6 been trying for weeks
immediately after boot splash, it says
Installing..
for a few seconds, then says
Failed
then
0%
then
1%
then it says update failed and reboots.
i had some apps disabled first try, enabled them, but it still failed.
any tips?
If you are rooted, or have changed any CSC settings, OTA updates will failed. If you are completely set on updating to 5.1.1, I would Odin back to stock of whatever version you are running now and OTA to 5.1.1. But be warned that if you are rooted now, you probably will lose root forever.
sirdizzle415 said:
If you are rooted, or have changed any CSC settings, OTA updates will failed. If you are completely set on updating to 5.1.1, I would Odin back to stock of whatever version you are running now and OTA to 5.1.1. But be warned that if you are rooted now, you probably will lose root forever.
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no, actually havent rooted. 100% stock
tykazowsky said:
no, actually havent rooted. 100% stock
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Interesting. The only other suggestion I have if you're unrooted and all of your apps and services are enabled is to make sure you have at least 3.00 gigs of space available before you try to update. I've seen that be a problem before.
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I have over 4GB free... I checked that. Could that still be too little?
I had the same problem. Then I tried updating the previously disabled applications in the play store. After they updated, I attempted the download again, and this time the installation worked as expected.
I'm having this issue as well. I did a factory reset knowing I was rooted. Tried 3 times (very annoying that it re-downloads every time, by the way).
Of course, I can't Odin without a rom to flash and ATT is so anal about giving up their factory roms.
I've also tried Smart Switch to apply the update after the 3 failed attempts. No dice, smart switch doesn't think an update is available.
EgoGelder said:
I had the same problem. Then I tried updating the previously disabled applications in the play store. After they updated, I attempted the download again, and this time the installation worked as expected.
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i did this, and it still failed :/
tykazowsky said:
i did this, and it still failed :/
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Hmm.. Yeah, it failed for me 2-3 times in a row... I kept kicking the date out 24 hours to allow me to download it again... I think when I finally got it to work I was on Friday the 2nd of Oct. Other things that I did before that was clear system cache, cleaned up about 2 more gig of space (was at 5 gb free initially, got it to around 7 gb) and then enabled all my disabled apps and updated them. Could have just been dumb luck, or combination of multiple things....
EgoGelder said:
Hmm.. Yeah, it failed for me 2-3 times in a row... I kept kicking the date out 24 hours to allow me to download it again... I think when I finally got it to work I was on Friday the 2nd of Oct. Other things that I did before that was clear system cache, cleaned up about 2 more gig of space (was at 5 gb free initially, got it to around 7 gb) and then enabled all my disabled apps and updated them. Could have just been dumb luck, or combination of multiple things....
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YES I FINALLY GOT IT TO WORK!
it had nothing to do with apps, I tried with 3gb free, fail, 4gb free fail, but i went in and cleared all apps cache which was 7gb (somehow) i tried again and it worked!!!
so if you get this error, make sure you have at least 7 or 8gb free! it should go smoothly
tykazowsky said:
YES I FINALLY GOT IT TO WORK!
it had nothing to do with apps, I tried with 3gb free, fail, 4gb free fail, but i went in and cleared all apps cache which was 7gb (somehow) i tried again and it worked!!!
so if you get this error, make sure you have at least 7 or 8gb free! it should go smoothly
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Sweet! Glad to hear it worked.
tykazowsky said:
YES I FINALLY GOT IT TO WORK!
it had nothing to do with apps, I tried with 3gb free, fail, 4gb free fail, but i went in and cleared all apps cache which was 7gb (somehow) i tried again and it worked!!!
so if you get this error, make sure you have at least 7 or 8gb free! it should go smoothly
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I have 14gb free and it still isnt working for me...tried 4x and it keeps failing. Downloads perfectly fine but when i go to install it does the same thing it's been doing for everyone else. Don't know whats going on this has never happened before - i am on stock.
Update checklist:
1) Enable and update all apps. Clear app cache.
2) Safe mode (hold vol- during boot sequence)
3) Samsung Smart Switch
4) Flash with Odin (either at Best Buy or yourself) to OF4 (5.0.2 then update, or directly to 5.1.1)
If you were rooted, either use Samsung Smart Switch to upgrade, flash with Odin to OF4 or do a factory reset (make sure you don't re-install SuperSU) before upgrading.
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XGC75 said:
Update checklist:
1) Enable and update all apps. Clear app cache.
2) Safe mode (hold vol- during boot sequence)
3) Samsung Smart Switch
4) Flash with Odin (either at Best Buy or yourself) to OF4 (5.0.2 then update, or directly to 5.1.1)
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Why do we need to enable and update all apps when the update is still failing for users who do not have any apps disabled? I do not want to take the time and space to enable & update all my disabled apps if it is still not going to work. :/
It's worked for some guys in the past. Didn't work for me either. I had to reflash the phone at best buy to OF4 before the update worked properly.
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tykazowsky said:
immediately after boot splash, it says
Installing..
for a few seconds, then says
Failed
then
0%
then
1%
then it says update failed and reboots.
i had some apps disabled first try, enabled them, but it still failed.
any tips?
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What worked for me
Hey, I had the same issue. I'd download the update, try to install it and it would crash and reboot.
What stopped my update from working was the fact that I had my developer's settings on. I tapped on the build number 7 times to open up developer's settings and disable the NuPlayer (because it made my snapchat stories lag and skip around). In order to get the update to work, I went to Settings>Device>Apps>App Manager>Settings>Clear Data. After clearing the data, the option for developer's settings wasn't available (unless I enable it again of course) and I was able to install the update just fine.
Hope I helped.
The first few times I used Kingroot to achieve temp root, it worked great and then just went back to unrooted after a while. One time after rooting, it was spammed with error messages that the play store and other apps were crashing. I rebooted the phone and it seemed to fix it. The errors were gone and so was root. I tried kingroot again and I had the same problem. I did the same reboot and then deleted the kingroot app. I thought everything was fixed then until I plugged my phone in to charge. It shut down even though it was around 75%. I didnt know what i was doing so I put it in recovery mode and choose factory. I thought this would do a factory reset but now when my phone powers up all my apps and stuff is there. Please advise how to completely rid my device of kingroot. Thanks in advance
Update: When I started in factory mode, there was a testing app called commserver or something like that running. I saw in other forums to reboot to remove that and i did and it worked. Still would like advice on removing kingroot completely.
Jefff0101 said:
The first few times I used Kingroot to achieve temp root, it worked great and then just went back to unrooted after a while. One time after rooting, it was spammed with error messages that the play store and other apps were crashing. I rebooted the phone and it seemed to fix it. The errors were gone and so was root. I tried kingroot again and I had the same problem. I did the same reboot and then deleted the kingroot app. I thought everything was fixed then until I plugged my phone in to charge. It shut down even though it was around 75%. I didnt know what i was doing so I put it in recovery mode and choose factory. I thought this would do a factory reset but now when my phone powers up all my apps and stuff is there. Please advise how to completely rid my device of kingroot. Thanks in advance
Update: When I started in factory mode, there was a testing app called commserver or something like that running. I saw in other forums to reboot to remove that and i did and it worked. Still would like advice on removing kingroot completely.
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To remove Kingroot completely, you need to reflash the system partition. You can do this by plugging your phone into a computer, installing the Verizon Upgrade Assistant, and using the "repair your phone" option. Doing this will wipe your phone, so backup any data first.
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To remove Kingroot completely, you need to reflash the system partition. You can do this by plugging your phone into a computer, installing the Verizon Upgrade Assistant, and using the "repair your phone" option. Doing this will wipe your phone, so backup any data first.
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Thanks, I'm kinda a noob so could you walk through the steps like you were talking to a baby? Like do I put my phone in recovery mode and then download the version thing on the computer? How do you suggest backing up my phone? Sorry for the bother, I'm new to this stuff. Thanks again
Sure:
1. Boot your phone normally. Backup whatever data you want to preserve. Make sure that whatever backups you make are stored in a place that is outside of your phone.
The best way to backup your phone depends on what you want to backup. If you're worried about losing contacts, don't be. I'm pretty sure Google backs those up automatically. You can make sure by going to https://www.google.com/contacts/. If you see contacts there, you're good. If you're worried about losing pictures, plug your phone into a computer and use a file browser to copy the folder called DCIM to your computer. If you want to try backing up your texts, there's an app on the play store called Super Backup that might help. Just make sure that you transfer whatever backup file it makes to a cloud drive or your computer.
2. Plug your phone into a computer running Windows (I'm not sure if it what I'm about to describe works on a Mac or not, but I know that it does not work on Linux). You should get a pop-up that says something like "do you want to install the verizon upgrade assistant?" Install it. If you don't see the pop-up, install this instead: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/88481. This is the Motorola Device Manager, and it's basically the same thing.
3. If you're using the Verizon tool, select "repair device" and follow the instructions. If you're using the Motorola tool, look for something that says "repair phone" or something like that, and follow those instructions.
4. The tool will wipe your phone, along with all of that nasty Kingroot stuff that tries to make modifications to /system despite the fact that /system is write-protected until you unlock with Sunshine (which is why it messed up your phone).
5. If you decide you want it, download Sunshine from here: http://theroot.ninja/download.html.
6. Go into your phone's security settings and allow installation of apps from unknown sources.
7. Click on the Sunshine apk that you downloaded to your phone to install it.
8. Open the Sunshine app and follow the instructions. If, when your phone reboots, you see a bootloader unlocked warning message instead of the black and white Motorola M symbol that usually appears, it was successful. If it was unsuccessful, keep trying. It should get it after a few tries.
It started to happen to my phone after I flashed only system.img to my rooted phone, tried to get the phone back to stock like some sort of a shortcut, to try to get OTA update.
I did not recognize it right away, but it started to happen from time to time and in all random occasions.
The phone will literally freeze for about 5-10sec and then everything will go back to normal.
The standard android message will appear that app is not responding do I want to kill it or wait.
I flashed the whole phone with stock images, temporarily rooted the phone again to enable camera2, uninstalled root, and it still happens from time to time.
Any suggestions, what can I do, what to check, where to look ?
I had kernel "Kernel Adiutor (ROOT)" previously installed, but I changed nothing major, just cpu governor to ondemand, and messed a little bit with entropy. This was installed on the phone before flashing.
minnuss said:
It started to happen to my phone after I flashed only system.img to my rooted phone, tried to get the phone back to stock like some sort of a shortcut, to try to get OTA update.
I did not recognize it right away, but it started to happen from time to time and in all random occasions.
The phone will literally freeze for about 5-10sec and then everything will go back to normal.
The standard android message will appear that app is not responding do I want to kill it or wait.
I flashed the whole phone with stock images, temporarily rooted the phone again to enable camera2, uninstalled root, and it still happens from time to time.
Any suggestions, what can I do, what to check, where to look ?
I had kernel "Kernel Adiutor (ROOT)" previously installed, but I changed nothing major, just cpu governor to ondemand, and messed a little bit with entropy. This was installed on the phone before flashing.
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You may want to clean the dalvik-cache first. (Install TWRP and clean it from there) the system is storing tons of thing in there, and *for my case* wiping it was like a deliverance ?
minnuss said:
It started to happen to my phone after I flashed only system.img to my rooted phone, tried to get the phone back to stock like some sort of a shortcut, to try to get OTA update.
I did not recognize it right away, but it started to happen from time to time and in all random occasions.
The phone will literally freeze for about 5-10sec and then everything will go back to normal.
The standard android message will appear that app is not responding do I want to kill it or wait.
I flashed the whole phone with stock images, temporarily rooted the phone again to enable camera2, uninstalled root, and it still happens from time to time.
Any suggestions, what can I do, what to check, where to look ?
I had kernel "Kernel Adiutor (ROOT)" previously installed, but I changed nothing major, just cpu governor to ondemand, and messed a little bit with entropy. This was installed on the phone before flashing.
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Is the phone writing big files to the disk like an automatic Backup? That's when my phone becomes unresponsive..
dodjob said:
You may want to clean the dalvik-cache first. (Install TWRP and clean it from there) the system is storing tons of thing in there, and *for my case* wiping it was like a deliverance
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Hmm, i will try this when I get home from work, thanx.
Benjamin_L said:
Is the phone writing big files to the disk like an automatic Backup? That's when my phone becomes unresponsive..
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No custom installed auto backup aps, only default Android syncs.
I think that it has to do something with the kernel, or something deeper then stock images, maybe dodjob is right, I will try with dalvik erase, and if I remember correctly twrp has another option to clean something else, will check it today...
Is there a way to flash default stock kernel again ?
minnuss said:
Hmm, i will try this when I get home from work, thanx.
No custom installed auto backup aps, only default Android syncs.
I think that it has to do something with the kernel, or something deeper then stock images, maybe dodjob is right, I will try with dalvik erase, and if I remember correctly twrp has another option to clean something else, will check it today...
Is there a way to flash default stock kernel again ?
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Let us know!
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Let us know!
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Nope, it did not work, freeze remains.
Now I need to check what Benjamin said, about internal storage, format system, and do all over again, but now without restoring backup, starting with fresh droid install.
minnuss said:
Nope, it did not work, freeze remains.
Now I need to check what Benjamin said, about internal storage, format system, and do all over again, but now without restoring backup, starting with fresh droid install.
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That sucks big time ? the only time I got a freeze was as I wanted to empty chrome beta cache. After the reboot, all went back as it should be...
I did it, finally, flashed all images again stock, and then don't restored backup of the phone offered by google, but do the clean new phone installation.
It works now, everything is setup and works as it should be, except camera2api, I did not enable that one yet.
Maybe, just maybe, the problem was with the way how camera2 api was enabled, I did it via adb shell.
How did you guys did it, if you have it enabled ?
This has started to happen to me since yesterday. I've had the phone to a couple of weeks and it's completely stock and un rooted. I rebooted the phone last night cause I thought it was some ram issue but it remains today. I'll give it a few days and hope it fixes itself.
minnuss said:
I did it, finally, flashed all images again stock, and then don't restored backup of the phone offered by google, but do the clean new phone installation.
It works now, everything is setup and works as it should be, except camera2api, I did not enable that one yet.
Maybe, just maybe, the problem was with the way how camera2 api was enabled, I did it via adb shell.
How did you guys did it, if you have it enabled ?
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Adb root shell. Can't think of a way this could damage anything if you just set the one property
hacktek said:
This has started to happen to me since yesterday. I've had the phone to a couple of weeks and it's completely stock and un rooted. I rebooted the phone last night cause I thought it was some ram issue but it remains today. I'll give it a few days and hope it fixes itself.
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Did you have device rooted for a while, or it was always stock ?
Benjamin_L said:
Adb root shell. Can't think of a way this could damage anything if you just set the one property
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Thanx, I needed that confirmation, then my problem was probably caused by some application that wanted to take root actions, without root enabled, and causing havoc to the system, because I was restoring backup last two times, backup from rooted phone.
I had rooted phone, then flashed only system.img, then the problem started, I don't know...
I will use the phone tomorrow for work without camera2, to make sure that I don't have any more problems.
minnuss said:
Did you have device rooted for a while, or it was always stock ?
Thanx, I needed that confirmation, then my problem was probably caused by some application that wanted to take root actions, without root enabled, and causing havoc to the system, because I was restoring backup last two times, backup from rooted phone.
I had rooted phone, then flashed only system.img, then the problem started, I don't know...
I will use the phone tomorrow for work without camera2, to make sure that I don't have any more problems.
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It's always been stock.
I had never rooted this phone and I am on September security patch, from September 6th, but for 2 days, 1-2 times a day I get some freeeze for 1-3 minutes. Today I tried to clear manually the cache from Facebook, and it took me 1 minute after I click the button "Clear cache". And then I got everything freezing. After a black screen for 10 seconds I got an error as you can see in the screenshot attached. I will repeat, never touched the phone's system. Does anybody meet this problem???
kaiwanted said:
I had never rooted this phone and I am on September security patch, from September 6th, but for 2 days, 1-2 times a day I get some freeeze for 1-3 minutes. Today I tried to clear manually the cache from Facebook, and it took me 1 minute after I click the button "Clear cache". And then I got everything freezing. After a black screen for 10 seconds I got an error as you can see in the screenshot attached. I will repeat, never touched the phone's system. Does anybody meet this problem???
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Yes this happens when lots of I/o is done on the internal disk. I hope this is just a missing optimization and not a hardware issue. But let's bug xiaomi with it. I assume you also have the 64GB version?
@kaiwanted, I had that, but not 2 times per day, but almost constantly and the stops were about 10-15 sec, not for a whole minutes.
Clean flash, clean new start a phone procedure when the phone boots, no restores of backup.
And erased Dalvik cache in TWRP.
Or, if you don't want to do this, try with uninstalling all unnecessary apps that you have in the phone, try the day use with minimum, to see what happens.
minnuss said:
@kaiwanted, I had that, but not 2 times per day, but almost constantly and the stops were about 10-15 sec, not for a whole minutes.
Clean flash, clean new start a phone procedure when the phone boots, no restores of backup.
And erased Dalvik cache in TWRP.
Or, if you don't want to do this, try with uninstalling all unnecessary apps that you have in the phone, try the day use with minimum, to see what happens.
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I read a lot regarding how people brick their phone with TWRP and rooting, so for now I will not use this future. But to reset my phone I will think about. Anyway I need this phone to use all my applications, not only a couple of them, because of this freezing (.
Thanks for suggestions.
minnuss said:
@kaiwanted, I had that, but not 2 times per day, but almost constantly and the stops were about 10-15 sec, not for a whole minutes.
Clean flash, clean new start a phone procedure when the phone boots, no restores of backup.
And erased Dalvik cache in TWRP.
Or, if you don't want to do this, try with uninstalling all unnecessary apps that you have in the phone, try the day use with minimum, to see what happens.
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So I uninstalled about 5-6 applications and freeze disappear. From which I remember, I uninstalled: Spendee, XDA Dev app, Zugo Wallpapers etc.
Still when I clear the cache manually from Applications in settings, it takes about a minute or more to clean 100-500mb. This is weird.
Anyway, thank you for the suggestion.
kaiwanted said:
So I uninstalled about 5-6 applications and freeze disappear. From which I remember, I uninstalled: Spendee, XDA Dev app, Zugo Wallpapers etc.
Still when I clear the cache manually from Applications in settings, it takes about a minute or more to clean 100-500mb. This is weird.
Anyway, thank you for the suggestion.
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I did the same thing. Went through my application list, uninstalled everything I didn't need and the issue went away. I cleared like 5% of storage space with still over 50% left but it seems to have helped.
reflashed all stock, enabled camera 2 api using mi a2 toolkit (magisk method) and I have the same. Cleared everything and run flash_all.bat. enable cam 2 api again and still have the same issue. clean install of apps doesn't fix it. Any idea on how to fix the sudden freeze?
Thanks
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if I completely root the device, I will still have the random freeze?
also, if I factory reset the device in the settings, the camera 2 api will be gone? thanks
minnuss said:
Maybe, just maybe, the problem was with the way how camera2 api was enabled, I did it via adb shell.
How did you guys did it, if you have it enabled ?
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I did it via twrp and adb shell setprop persist...
No issues here at all.