Hello. I would like to ask whitch ROM + Kernel gives best performance in games? Becouse now I barely get 20k points in Antutu... and fps is jumping crazy in 3d test. Does this has anything to do with throttling?
First of all I would like to say that benchmarking apps are a bunch of BULL! Don't rely on them. Complain only if you find lags/stutters in real gaming. But yes, throttling does effect it.
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Okay, another question that makes me feel kinda dumb.
How can I improve my N1's performance?
Specifically, how in the world do I get my nexus even close to the N1's I see on Linpack's "Top Devices"?
I'm running diet_2.6.33.2.hybrid_avs_925mv_OC with cyanogen 5.0.6. I can get 7.778 MFLOPS. Honestly, I don’t even know what that means. All I know is that I want more. Or do I? Does it even make that much of a difference in everyday usage?
I've noticed that in the JIT thread under development they talk about getting up to 17 MFLOPS, but no one really explains what JIT is or does. Just that it's unstable and that if your not sure what it is, you don't need it.
I can benchmarkPi in 2790 - how in the hell do I get it lower? Under the rom description of some of the top 50 they mention JIT and experimental kernels, but there's not much room for more than just the generic names of them. Where do I get these magical roms and kernels? Do I even want them? Are they so unstable that they can only be used to gain geek cred on some benchmark lists and once they hit the "high score" they explode in flames? Do I need safety goggles before I flash the update.zip?
Seriously though, I know I'm not the only one with these questions - so any info would help. And do me a favor, please do not respond to say that if I don't know - I don’t need to know. At one point, you didn't know either. No one was born with this knowledge.
I know there is a very bright person on here that is willing to take a couple of minutes to shed some light on us simpletons. I'd like to thank you in advance. Thanks.
Even if you get higher linpack scores, you will barely notice any difference in your devices performance... That's why I tend to ignore it. If its possible to get faster than Cyanogen ROMs (not in terms of linpack) I don't know how different things would be.. im curious about how quick Froyo is though.
Oh and have you searched, Jit has been covered in more places than just xda developers, several times it has been discussed I believe.. while using it, my Linpack scores did get into the double digits though - but this (not even that noticeable actually) speed increase was not worth the random reboots, and such. When Jit is stable though, it will be quite nice.. hopefully Froyo has it.
Linpack number did not make any differences in overall usage . Now, I am using my own UV kernel and setcpu max freq to 500MHz.. only... but, I still able to get 26.8 fps in Neocore's 3D benchmark. Playing games, 3D or not, still smooth and fluid.
I also waiting for Froyo and hope we can get even efficient and fast OS.
TQ.
Hey guys, I know this might be a dumb question but can someone tell me which type of ROM is better at speed (playing games with less or no lags, system speed and so on). I'm currently running DModV6 and am quite happy with it, but was just wondering if going back to the latest stock 4.1.2 ROM will give better user experience (a.k.a. faster phone).
P.S. I'm wondering 'cause when I watch videos of the S3 Mini playing heavy games, they don't lag at all, but when I play them, they do lag
Thanks for reading/helping and have a nice evening !
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Hello !
I use my M7 for chatting, navigating, phone calls, some apps like "amazon", bus connections etc. No heavy gaming or other projects.
I have even underclocked it to 1100MHz for better battery lifetime.
For me it's important to have a fast, Stable Rom with a great Battery Lifetime. I don't care about its design etc. but it should be Sense.
Maybe the battery lifetime isn't related to the Rom (read a big discussion about that, but didn't finish..). In this case, what Kernel can you recommend ? Any mods or settings ? Any apps or possibilities to get the most stable Rom setup, with good battery life time ?
I don't need fancy designs etc. Just want the phone to be fast, and stable. And of course a good battery lifetime.
Any recommendations or tips ?
Greetz
Busted. said:
Hello !
I use my M7 for chatting, navigating, phone calls, some apps like "amazon", bus connections etc. No heavy gaming or other projects.
I have even underclocked it to 1100MHz for better battery lifetime.
For me it's important to have a fast, Stable Rom with a great Battery Lifetime. I don't care about its design etc. but it should be Sense.
Maybe the battery lifetime isn't related to the Rom (read a big discussion about that, but didn't finish..). In this case, what Kernel can you recommend ? Any mods or settings ? Any apps or possibilities to get the most stable Rom setup, with good battery life time ?
I don't need fancy designs etc. Just want the phone to be fast, and stable. And of course a good battery lifetime.
Any recommendations or tips ?
Greetz
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well my recommendation will be to try some differents roms and kernel yourself and see whats work the best for your needs.
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apart from the rom/kernel, I personally use Tasker to set custom power saver profile, you might want to give it a try (this is a paid app)
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Greetings Cees Heim
Hey XDA,
my Z3 broke and my insurance gave me 500€ to get a new phone so i got the Nexus 6 32GB Blue for 490 € at my workplace.
Before my Z3 i had many different Phones like the S5, LG G3, NEXUS 5, HTC ONE m7 and more
Well what mostly use me device for is communication, A LOT (LOT LOT³) OF Fn READING (Manga and Reddit Sync) and hearing my music on the way to school/work/whatever .
I am a experienced user with roms and flashing but with this new device i just want to flash something daily driver friendly but feature heavy rom and a good battery conserving kernel
So far ive looked around for some roms available here and already choosen the
CHROMA Rom because it seems to be popular here (Not sure why ?!) (What is "Layers" ?)
and the Vindicator Kernel because it looks very promising (Not sure if its the case tho) and it has a lot of features (for a kernel..)
So what do you guys use and show me some screens of your themes becuase i like the possibilty to use the cm theme engine
Thanks
RainbowSix
For stability.. Chroma/hellscore kernel
Or use the JDX based on latest android M which is pretty stable too but you may encounter few bugs
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For stability.. Chroma/hellscore kernel
Or use the JDX based on latest android M which is pretty stable too but you may encounter few bugs
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What bugs may i encounter ?
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are YOU running on your Nexus 6??? thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are YOU running on your Nexus 6??? thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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Wow thats an awesome and big post with a lot of tought from you, thanks
I never asked for a best rom/kernel.. just your recommendation and im sorry that i didnt see the other thread you showed me
Do you have a tutorial for kernel settings ? because i didnt have a nexus for a long time now i never messed with kernel settings that much
And what is your opinion on my choosen rom/kernel ? what are you using and why ?
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Wow thats an awesome and big post with a lot of tought from you, thanks
I never asked for a best rom/kernel.. just your recommendation and im sorry that i didnt see the other thread you showed me
Do you have a tutorial for kernel settings ? because i didnt have a nexus for a long time now i never messed with kernel settings that much
And what is your opinion on my choosen rom/kernel ? what are you using and why ?
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No worries, but recommendations kind of fall under "best" in a way anyway and it is all subjective.
FWIW, I like to use Slim Alpha and ElementalX kernel.
As for tweaks, it all depends what you want. Performance Versus Battery. Easiest thing to tweak is the governor settings. Some governors will allow you to change the Up Threshold. The % of CPU load before it steps up to a higher frequency. Set the up threshold high, it will stay at a lower frequency for longer, of course that impacts performance.
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No worries, but recommendations kind of fall under "best" in a way anyway and it is all subjective.
FWIW, I like to use Slim Alpha and ElementalX kernel.
As for tweaks, it all depends what you want. Performance Versus Battery. Easiest thing to tweak is the governor settings. Some governors will allow you to change the Up Threshold. The % of CPU load before it steps up to a higher frequency. Set the up threshold high, it will stay at a lower frequency for longer, of course that impacts performance.
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Well i am thinking to go battery but not 100%. but more like 80%
Problem is i dont know what the apps need to work fluid (or not?)
With recommendation i meant something like this
"AWESOME DUDE, I HAVE A NEXUS 6 WITH ROM X AND KERNEL X AND USE IT FOR DD AND LOTS READING
ITS WORKING LIKE A CHARM NEVER hv HAPPIER BEFORE BECAUSE THIS DOES THAT AND THAT DOES THIS"
sounds stupid, i know but maybe someone else using the N6 is in the same scenario as i am.
Got some good news 3 hrs from now i will hold a fresh Nexus 6 in my handy and now someone is offering me a GS6 32GBlack for exchange xD
GOT IT GOT IT GOT IT earlier but happy about this new awesome toy to play with
it's reported that on a test on the 3T it was discovered that OnePlus now targets benchmark apps by name so it scores higher , that's not good to be honest, the device is solid and rational users don't need this, I admit it's nice to test and see your device high up the ranking but only when it's done organically ,
that said this appears to only be introduced on the N Roms (including betas)!
https://www.xda-developers.com/benc...ght-red-handed-and-what-theyve-done-about-it/
im on oneplus 3 so i dont really care.
Still a great phone..
Lots of phones cheat on benchmarks. Not really new
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im on oneplus 3 so i dont really care.
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it's a software thing not a device thing, the N rom has the "feature" so it affects both 3 and 3T...
not saying the phone is bad, i love, i'm saying it's not needed... some companies did so in the past, but it's now over so why do it, the OnePlus brand in general wasn't built on Benchmarks.
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it's reported that on a test on the 3T it was discovered that OnePlus now targets benchmark apps by name so it scores higher , that's not good to be honest, the device is solid and rational users don't need this, I admit it's nice to test and see your device high up the ranking but only when it's done organically ,
that said this appears to only be introduced on the N Roms (including betas)!
https://www.xda-developers.com/benc...ght-red-handed-and-what-theyve-done-about-it/
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403 error when i click that link
Yeah just read the article I was annoyed that oneplus would be involved In something so stupid when this phone is an awesome device, I don't see what they would have achieved from even doing that.
People do this all the time themselves. It's the same as "intelligent" profiles that switch depending on application and load.
If this happens for games then whats the big deal? People say it should work for all apps but i dont want my cpu going through battery just because I have my clock app open. Sure there should be a setting for it but still they see this app as a power hungry app so they give it juice, any other app which doesn't need this power just doesn't need it.
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403 error when i click that link
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https://www.xda-developers.com/benc...ght-red-handed-and-what-theyve-done-about-it/
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If this happens for games then whats the big deal? People say it should work for all apps but i dont want my cpu going through battery just because I have my clock app open. Sure there should be a setting for it but still they see this app as a power hungry app so they give it juice, any other app which doesn't need this power just doesn't need it.
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The difference in performance is very small with these cheating tweaks. Personally I don't really care about the cheating at all, I love this phone and it's features and performance.
I haven't installed a benchmark app in years and not about to do it now. I'm only interested in real world performance.
This is one reason why people don't trust Benchmark scores.
People put way too much importance on benchmarks anyway... They are largely meaningless, but you see dozens of threads of people trying to tweak kernels and all sorts of stuff, to get an arbitrary score in a meaningless app because they think it gives them bragging rights.
Benchmarks are for kids. Real world results are for adults.
Check out op's explanation on that
Seriously? What about i-creap? How can that i-**** could be nr.1 in benchmark?!?
If our devices are effectively overclocking to achieve better benchmarks, sooner or later the OS will have to turned down the SoC as the temperatures will get too high if the benchmark is ran over and over again.
If you want to know the true benchmark of your OP3, I suggest running it over and over.
is this thread necessary?
lel for this type of discussion.