OTA vs RUU? - Sprint HTC One (M7)

Are there any benefits of updating via an RUU versus an OTA?
Searched before making this thread. Didn't see anything. Thanks in advance.
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adam.kelly2 said:
Are there any benefits of updating via an RUU versus an OTA?
Searched before making this thread. Didn't see anything. Thanks in advance.
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An RUU is cleaner than an OTA; the latter only patches existing applications whereas the former installs them outright. Of course this is because an RUU also wipes your phone.
They also may be leftover files no longer used when you do an OTA, because it doesn't cleanup. If you do a hex compare of files and directories between the two methods, you will see differences.
I personally like to use RUU and get a clean start, especially when jumping from say JB to KK. I backup apps and setting with Titanium Backup first and restore later.

PillowMetal said:
An RUU is cleaner than an OTA; the latter only patches existing applications whereas the former installs them outright. Of course this is because an RUU also wipes your phone.
They also may be leftover files no longer used when you do an OTA, because it doesn't cleanup. If you do a hex compare of files and directories between the two methods, you will see differences.
I personally like to use RUU and get a clean start, especially when jumping from say JB to KK. I backup apps and setting with Titanium Backup first and restore later.
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Thank you. I figured as much but didn't quite understand the basic differences between the two.
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two different entities
Though the guy above me is right. I wanted to make sure to point out what makes them different. An OTA is strictly an upgrade, where as an RUU contains the full software. And an RUU WILL erase everything on the device, whereas an OTA will not. Obviouslly for the case of those who do not root or anything like that an OTA is good enough. But for those that do root, and RUU may be the best way to upgrade the stock software. Hope made the differences clear, and I hope I didnt say anything redundant.

matinm90 said:
Though the guy above me is right. I wanted to make sure to point out what makes them different. An OTA is strictly an upgrade, where as an RUU contains the full software. And an RUU WILL erase everything on the device, whereas an OTA will not. Obviouslly for the case of those who do not root or anything like that an OTA is good enough. But for those that do root, and RUU may be the best way to upgrade the stock software. Hope made the differences clear, and I hope I didnt say anything redundant.
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Thanks, and to make sure I understand this, would I be fair to say that an OTA would be like accepting the Windows 8.1 update when you already have Windows 8, where as an RUU would be like formatting your hard drive and doing a fresh install of Windows 8.1?

adam.kelly2 said:
Thanks, and to make sure I understand this, would I be fair to say that an OTA would be like accepting the Windows 8.1 update when you already have Windows 8, where as an RUU would be like formatting your hard drive and doing a fresh install of Windows 8.1?
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Oh yeah I could have just said that lol. Yeah that's basically the difference. But you can't say one is better than the other. They both have their tradeoffs.
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[WIP][*POSSIBLE SOLUTION*] Restoring Missing Apps Post Unlock: Your Help is Needed

As reported by Modaco, it seems that unlocking the bootloader removes some system apps, among them are the Calculator, Flashlight, Ringtone Trimmer and Sound Recorder (and I've seen a report that the Teeter game is gone too).
Now, I haven't got my own One yet, however I do have access to a Canadian variant from work and we've got another one in America running an older build.
It was running 1.27, now it is running 1.28.
I cannot access the data partition, obviously, not even for read (it is not rooted), however using the pm command I managed to discover which packages are located in the preload directory (excluding the carrier specific apps from my variant):
com.android.calculator2
com.htc.flashlight
com.htc.pdfviewer
com.htc.ringtonetrimmer
com.htc.soundrecorder
Initially I thought ODEX files might be needed, but these are located in the data partition and as far as I know there are no ODEX files there (correct me if I'm wrong).
Using Carbon I've backed them up (see attached here), only thing left is to check whether they can be restored and work properly on unlocked Ones. It might not fit every variant, testing required. Perhaps it might even allow using OTA updates.
If you haven't unlocked your bootloader yet, I suggest trying this beforehand instead of the attached files:
Through ADB, use:
adb shell pm list packages -f | find "preload"
Backup these apps using Carbon.
Unlock bootloader.
Restore using Carbon.
Please let me know if this works.
Thank you so much. Flashlight and calculator is working. The Sound Recorder gives me a force close. But it is a beginning. :cyclops:
Re: [WIP] Restoring Missing Apps Post Unlock: Your Help is Needed
MasterOfDesasters said:
Thank you so much. Flashlight and calculator is working. The Sound Recorder gives me a force close. But it is a beginning. :cyclops:
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If you keep getting a force close then pmease try settings-application manager-sound recorder-clear data.
This should help clear up any force closures.
Also fixing permissions will help but quicker to just go through settings
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Trekest said:
As reported by Modaco, it seems that unlocking the bootloader removes some system apps, among them are the Calculator, Flashlight, Ringtone Trimmer and Sound Recorder (and I've seen a report that the Teeter game is gone too).
Now, I haven't got my own One yet, however I do have access to a Canadian variant from work (running version 1.27), and we've got another one in America running an older build.
I cannot access the data partition, obviously, not even for read (it is not rooted), however I did spot some of the missing apps in the system partition. I think that if we pull these files from a locked One and push them after unlocking we might not have to rely on flashing a custom rom to get them back.
Edit: or not... I've seen the Camera and have mistaken it for the Calculator... Idiot...
However, and here's the catch, I'm not sure the files remain unaltered between builds. So, here's the to do list:
Identifying the exact list of missing files post-unlocking - there'd probably be odex files missing as well as APKs, which is why we can't just pull these from a custom rom.
Pulling them from locked Ones (assuming they are in the system partition).
Comparing MD5 changes between different builds.
Testing testing testing.
Update: Stupid... this could be even simpler. These are in the data partition, and ES File Explorer can backup the APKs. I'm grabbing them now. We'll still need to figure out how to get the odex files back.
Update 2: OK, I've got 3/4 of the missing apps, the trimmer could not be backed up (attached them). Will have to continue with it tomorrow.
Maybe this tool can help us:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1844032
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Hi if you want the .odex files back then you could try just taking them out of the system dump or official firmware.
Just an idea mate
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Also if you unlock the phone wont accept OTAs. I hope this is a bug and HTC fix it.
OP updated, please try.
ste1164 said:
Also if you unlock the phone wont accept OTAs. I hope this is a bug and HTC fix it.
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Anyone who unlocks their phone would not take an ota. I have never taken an ota on the six unlocked htc phones I have had. They almost always have a new bootloader.
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wow that sucks.
i'm planning on getting the phone unlocked without modifying the bootloader or anything...
will just unlocking to use different sims have missing apps?
predation said:
wow that sucks.
i'm planning on getting the phone unlocked without modifying the bootloader or anything...
will just unlocking to use different sims have missing apps?
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No, completely different, unlocking sim and unlocking Bootloader are worlds apart.
fernando sor said:
Anyone who unlocks their phone would not take an ota. I have never taken an ota on the six unlocked htc phones I have had. They almost always have a new bootloader.
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Well, I have current an HTC Sensation, and up until the first ICS update I was stock and rooted, getting OTAs as usual.
Sure, I had to keep a backup of the original recovery and flash it through hboot each time before installing an OTA, however they did work.
I'm not planning on flashing a recovery this time around, I plan on just booting it to install Koush's Superuser and keep the stock one. And if it wouldn't work, just to root and go back to the stock recovery. Until I've had enough of stock :silly:
ste1164 said:
Also if you unlock the phone wont accept OTAs. I hope this is a bug and HTC fix it.
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Its not a bug, HTC has done this purposely so that you cannot update.
And for everyone who says that you wouldnt want to take OTAs anyway, just wait till a nice update rolls around and then you'll be saying different
CNexus said:
Its not a bug, HTC has done this purposely so that you cannot update.
And for everyone who says that you wouldnt want to take OTAs anyway, just wait till a nice update rolls around and then you'll be saying different
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If your unlocked you would flash that update as a rom. I'm having a hard time accepting that you wouldn't know that
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fernando sor said:
If your unlocked you would flash that update as a rom. I'm having a hard time accepting that you wouldn't know that
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You would. But sometimes people cant wait long enough for devs to update their roms to the new base
CNexus said:
You would. But sometimes people cant wait long enough for devs to update their roms to the new base
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And the same people that aren't patient enough and want instant gratification are also the ones that have the greatest tendency to hard-brick devices, who would've thought...
CNexus said:
You would. But sometimes people cant wait long enough for devs to update their roms to the new base
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Generally updates are anticipated and usually a stock version will be posted soon after the ota. Actually the fact that you can't receive an ota after unlocking will save a lot of noobs from installing a new locked down bootloader.
OTAs can easily be pulled from your cache. Someone would pull it and upload it.
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fernando sor said:
Generally updates are anticipated and usually a stock version will be posted soon after the ota. Actually the fact that you can't receive an ota after unlocking will save a lot of noobs from installing a new locked down bootloader.
OTAs can easily be pulled from your cache. Someone would pull it and upload it.
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I know, I'm not trying to say that it would be there thing to do or the right thing to do, I am only saying in general.
But yes, that is how you pull an OTA, and it definitely is helpful to not accidentally (or purposely) unroot your phone.
So, did anyone restore apps? If so, can someone attach the calculator.apk?
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MaartenXDA said:
So, did anyone restore apps? If so, can someone attach the calculator.apk?
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See my OP - it has a carbon backup of all the missing apps. Just get Carbon from the play store (free) and restore them.
If you could also later tell me where it pushed them? (data/app or data/preload)
Trekest said:
See my OP - it has a carbon backup of all the missing apps. Just get Carbon from the play store (free) and restore them.
If you could also later tell me where it pushed them? (data/app or data/preload)
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Yeah saw it, and found the apps in TrickDroid ROM zip. Thanks for the work here, but I can't test it cause I don't have the one.
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I just installed the apks within the zip file and all seems fine
Trekest said:
As reported by Modaco, it seems that unlocking the bootloader removes some system apps, among them are the Calculator, Flashlight, Ringtone Trimmer and Sound Recorder (and I've seen a report that the Teeter game is gone too).
Now, I haven't got my own One yet, however I do have access to a Canadian variant from work and we've got another one in America running an older build.
It was running 1.27, now it is running 1.28.
I cannot access the data partition, obviously, not even for read (it is not rooted), however using the pm command I managed to discover which packages are located in the preload directory (excluding the carrier specific apps from my variant):
com.android.calculator2
com.htc.flashlight
com.htc.pdfviewer
com.htc.ringtonetrimmer
com.htc.soundrecorder
Initially I thought ODEX files might be needed, but these are located in the data partition and as far as I know there are no ODEX files there (correct me if I'm wrong).
Using Carbon I've backed them up (see attached here), only thing left is to check whether they can be restored and work properly on unlocked Ones. It might not fit every variant, testing required. Perhaps it might even allow using OTA updates.
If you haven't unlocked your bootloader yet, I suggest trying this beforehand instead of the attached files:
Through ADB, use:
adb shell pm list packages -f | find "preload"
Backup these apps using Carbon.
Unlock bootloader.
Restore using Carbon.
Please let me know if this works.
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It works with a relocked bootloader

Is there a way to do a clean install on a stock HTC one?

I've been looking for a way to do a clean reinstall of the os like I can with Odin on the galaxy phones and on iTunes on the iPhone but there seems to be no way to do this for the one.
My phone's untouched and I'm not planning on rooting it or nothing, not interested anymore but I do like to do a clean reinstall every so and so. Especially after updating.
neswii said:
I've been looking for a way to do a clean reinstall of the os like I can with Odin on the galaxy phones and on iTunes on the iPhone but there seems to be no way to do this for the one.
My phone's untouched and I'm not planning on rooting it or nothing, not interested anymore but I do like to do a clean reinstall every so and so. Especially after updating.
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good luck with that!
There's really no way? I thought I hadn't searched hard enough.
Do you mean a factory reset?
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He means RUU. I have no clue if one is available.
Read into this and try it if you understand it. It should work but I can not and will not provide support for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250904&highlight=ruu
Here's a video of wwjoshdew unrooting and bringing his htc one back to stock with step by step instructions.
Tried it once and worked great. Hope this is what you was looking for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WWNZpaQBh8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I see now. I thought that ruu stuff was for rooted phones but I believe it's the official updater from HTC. ROM update utility is what it stands for. Saw the video and it is a stock restoring process. Thanks for the responses guys, will restore my phone during the weekend. Hopefully we'll have 4.2.2 by then!
neswii said:
I see now. I thought that ruu stuff was for rooted phones but I believe it's the official updater from HTC. ROM update utility is what it stands for. Saw the video and it is a stock restoring process. Thanks for the responses guys, will restore my phone during the weekend. Hopefully we'll have 4.2.2 by then!
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There's nothing from your use-case that a standard factory reset (Settings -> Storage) shouldn't do, though, so do be somewhat wary.
Rirere said:
There's nothing from your use-case that a standard factory reset (Settings -> Storage) shouldn't do, though, so do be somewhat wary.
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Thing is, I believe some apps may be corrupted when doing incremental updates, or some data may be corrupted or give problems as well. So, a full system restore eliminates this problem. I still get force closes on some stock apps and the browser after a factory reset.
I've considered flashing a custom rom, but I'm just not into tinkling with my devices anymore.

[Q] 4.4.4 Update XT1052

Hey guys, I just received the notification about the above mentioned update being available for my phone. Who has experience with this update and can tell me, if I should update or not. I mean the phone is running quite good on 4.4.2 so why change a running machine? But on the other hand... We all like the new cool stuff, dont we? so whats better and whats worse after the update and how can i pull the file without root? So others can use it if they want to.
Thanks in advance and I hope the answer isnt mentioned here already, cause I couldnt find it within the last hour or so...
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N00BY0815 said:
Hey guys, I just received the notification about the above mentioned update being available for my phone. Who has experience with this update and can tell me, if I should update or not. I mean the phone is running quite good on 4.4.2 so why change a running machine? But on the other hand... We all like the new cool stuff, dont we? so whats better and whats worse after the update and how can i pull the file without root? So others can use it if they want to.
Thanks in advance and I hope the answer isnt mentioned here already, cause I couldnt find it within the last hour or so...
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There is a thread in general regarding the 4.4.4 rollout. While it isn't necessary to update, the phone will keep nagging you to install the update unless you either accept it, or use root to disable update notifications.
What's better? Well it shows 4.4.4 under Android version number instead of 4.4.2
No seriously, the only change I have noticed are : A much brighter flash for taking photos. Maybe the daylight photos have changed too, I honestly have no idea, no real time to test that.
Since upgrading to 4.4.4 I now can connect my phone to my Bravia via Mircast, if that matters to you.
There is a new Dialler app, which is meaningless IMHO, still sucks big time.
And some security related updates have been made, about which I literally have no idea.
No, the phone does NOT run more smoothly than on 4.4.2, it's just same. If you are happy with 4.4.2 then there is no point.
By the way, no, without root you can't pull the OTA zip file from the phone.
devilsdouble said:
What's better? Well it shows 4.4.4 under Android version number instead of 4.4.2
No seriously, the only change I have noticed are : A much brighter flash for taking photos. Maybe the daylight photos have changed too, I honestly have no idea, no real time to test that.
Since upgrading to 4.4.4 I now can connect my phone to my Bravia via Mircast, if that matters to you.
There is a new Dialler app, which is meaningless IMHO, still sucks big time.
And some security related updates have been made, about which I literally have no idea.
No, the phone does NOT run more smoothly than on 4.4.2, it's just same. If you are happy with 4.4.2 then there is no point.
By the way, no, without root you can't pull the OTA zip file from the phone.
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Thanks for the answers. But shouldnt it be possible to adb pull the update? And where is it located and is it downloaded already or would i have to allow the update first?
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N00BY0815 said:
Thanks for the answers. But shouldnt it be possible to adb pull the update? And where is it located and is it downloaded already or would i have to allow the update first?
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All OTAs are located in /cache
AFAIK, you cannot access /cache (even with ADB pull) without being rooted. I could definitely be wrong about this, so you are welcome to try. Once in adb shell, try to 'cd' to /cache and get a directly listing with 'ls'. My guess is that you won't be able to without su privileges, but let me know if that is not the case.
Once you install the OTA, it is permanently erased from /cache, and it is gone forever. I'm not sure why you are interested in pulling it though -- all of the XT1052 OTAs have already been pulled and posted by others. You can find all this in the very link I posted in my first reply to you.
Good Luck!
samwathegreat said:
All OTAs are located in /cache
AFAIK, you cannot access /cache (even with ADB pull) without being rooted. I could definitely be wrong about this, so you are welcome to try. Once in adb shell, try to 'cd' to /cache and get a directly listing with 'ls'. My guess is that you won't be able to without su privileges, but let me know if that is not the case.
Once you install the OTA, it is permanently erased from /cache, and it is gone forever. I'm not sure why you are interested in pulling it though -- all of the XT1052 OTAs have already been pulled and posted by others. You can find all this in the very link I posted in my first reply to you.
Good Luck!
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Oh ok, didnt know, they have all been posted already. Just didnt wanna read up 40 pages or more. Though I have to say I read 20 or so I just wanna pull it for the sake of pulling as well just to see, if it works unrooted and if I am still able to do so, since my android skills got a bit rusty
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[Q] M7 Htc one - Return to stock

I hope one of you kind people can help. I have a HTC one M7 which I need to return to stock to get a warranty repair. It has been s-off'd (?) and is running hboot 1.55 on an ORANG001 cid. I have tried to restore a CWM nandroid backup (which failed) and I don't seem to be able to find an RUU for my CID. Can anyone help with this please ? All the posts I have found have been outdated, or relate to different CID's.
Thanks in advance,
Andy
see this guide for returning to stock with a nandroid unfortunately there is no ruu for your device. But your already s-off that's the hardest part about returning to stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541082
Specifically posts #5 CWN nandroid and #6 TWRP nandroid
Danny201281 said:
see this guide for returning to stock with a nandroid unfortunately there is no ruu for your device. But your already s-off that's the hardest part about returning to stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541082
Specifically posts #5 CWN nandroid and #6 TWRP nandroid
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Thanks, almost there I just don't know which stock recovery I need ??? . My build number (after restoring the nandroid orang001 cid) is 2.24.61.1 is that the version I should be using to try to find the stock recovery ? If so, any idea where I can get it from ?
Thanks,
Andy
kronos1uk said:
Thanks, almost there I just don't know which stock recovery I need ??? . My build number (after restoring the nandroid orang001 cid) is 2.24.61.1 is that the version I should be using to try to find the stock recovery ? If so, any idea where I can get it from ?
Thanks,
Andy
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This is the closest i could find should work fine for you
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95864024717070703
Oh poo ! I've got almost to the end (locked bootloader, software update) and I noticed my kernel version is still showing as root. So I think my twrp restore had the root kernel included Now I can't unlock the bootloader to reflash as there is no su on the phone. I'm still s-off, how can I recover from this ?
Thanks for all your help so far,
Andy
kronos1uk said:
Oh poo ! I've got almost to the end (locked bootloader, software update) and I noticed my kernel version is still showing as root. So I think my twrp restore had the root kernel included Now I can't unlock the bootloader to reflash as there is no su on the phone. I'm still s-off, how can I recover from this ?
Thanks for all your help so far,
Andy
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nothing to worry about their the stock kernel has the word root in it
clsA said:
nothing to worry about their the stock kernel has the word root in it
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Excellent. Thanks for the tip.
Andy
Danny201281 said:
This is the closest i could find should work fine for you
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95864024717070703
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fyi, common mirrors are in post #7, including
HTC One M7_UL - modelid=PN0710000 - cidlist=ORANG001​
nkk71 said:
fyi, common mirrors are in post #7, including
HTC One M7_UL - modelid=PN0710000 - cidlist=ORANG001​
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Thanks, I should have known to look there, considering I used your guide myself [emoji5]
Danny201281 said:
Thanks, I should have known to look there, considering I used your guide myself [emoji5]
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Unfortunately the guide seems to have become a bit of mess ... too much stuff in there, not sure how to write it to make things clearer
nkk71 said:
Unfortunately the guide seems to have become a bit of mess ... too much stuff in there, not sure how to write it to make things clearer
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Nah I think the RUU guides are fine, The Nandroid guide is a little overcomplicated but I don't see how you can simplify it in any way. There are so many variations of HTC One with different firmware's.
Short of cutting out all helpful link's and addon info and just leaving the bare bone guide for users to figure out for them selves exactly which files they need, which I think would only lead to more cries for help in your thread anyway. It's about as simply/comprehensive as it can be. :good: You've done a great job you should be very proud of your thread. It's help many many people here on XDA, and I've no doubt it will help many more. :highfive:
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Nah I think the RUU guides are fine, The Nandroid guide is a little overcomplicated but I don't see how you can simplify it in any way. There are so many variations of HTC One with different firmware's.
Short of cutting out all helpful link's and addon info and just leaving the bare bone guide for users to figure out for them selves exactly which files they need, which I think would only lead to more cries for help in your thread anyway. It's about as simply/comprehensive as it can be. :good: You've done a great job you should be very proud of your thread. It's help many many people here on XDA, and I've no doubt it will help many more. :highfive:
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thanks mate :good:
I will try (at some point) to make it more readable.... it kinda grew over time... and seems to have become a bit of a dinosaur; so we'll see if i ever get around to that
if you have any suggestions, do let me know
nkk71 said:
thanks mate :good:
I will try (at some point) to make it more readable.... it kinda grew over time... and seems to have become a bit of a dinosaur; so we'll see if i ever get around to that
if you have any suggestions, do let me know
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Ok well, and this is only a suggestion, but maybe it's time to replace the Nandroid guide with a Guru reset zip guide. I think there are enough 1.xx and 2.xx reset zips to make this viable now. It removes the need to find a separate Stock recovery and the use of modoco with out movie zip for replacing the preload apps as this is all included in the reset.zip and/or firmware.zip.
Only files required are the HTC WWE RUU CWM.img and a reset.zip with matching firmware.zip. It could help to reduce or simplify the extra content in the guide. I'm sure mike1986 would be more than happy for you to link to his firmware repository. I have a txt file mockup of the required steps. If your interested in taking a look i'd be happy to share it. Let me know what you think :good:
Danny201281 said:
Ok well, and this is only a suggestion, but maybe it's time to replace the Nandroid guide with a Guru reset zip guide. I think there are enough 1.xx and 2.xx reset zips to make this viable now. It removes the need to find a separate Stock recovery and the use of modoco with out movie zip for replacing the preload apps as this is all included in the reset.zip and/or firmware.zip.
Only files required are the HTC WWE RUU CWM.img and a reset.zip with matching firmware.zip. It could help to reduce or simplify the extra content in the guide. I'm sure mike1986 would be more than happy for you to link to his firmware repository. I have a txt file mockup of the required steps. If your interested in taking a look i'd be happy to share it. Let me know what you think :good:
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thanks for the suggestion, but i had considered that a long time ago (even did a few back to stock, using Guru Reset ROMs), and even though it could be simpler (on a case by case basis), several reasons i'm not going for that
1- a lot more nandroids available than Guru Resets
2- one or two Guru Resets are actually "wrong-ish" (can't remember which, but they did have something modified, so OTAs didnt work)
3- i prefer to sticking with 1.xx versions, due to the [possible] tampered coming back (still not sure what/when/why this is triggered)
4- ^^ dont want people using 3.xx+ Guru Reset's and getting the tampered back... had one a couple of days ago
i know it's a bit more complicated, but considering it hasnt failed anybody yet (as far as i know), i'll stick with the longer version
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thanks for the suggestion, but i had considered that a long time ago (even did a few back to stock, using Guru Reset ROMs), and even though it could be simpler (on a case by case basis), several reasons i'm not going for that
1- a lot more nandroids available than Guru Resets
2- one or two Guru Resets are actually "wrong-ish" (can't remember which, but they did have something modified, so OTAs didnt work)
3- i prefer to sticking with 1.xx versions, due to the [possible] tampered coming back (still not sure what/when/why this is triggered)
4- ^^ dont want people using 3.xx+ Guru Reset's and getting the tampered back... had one a couple of days ago
i know it's a bit more complicated, but considering it hasnt failed anybody yet (as far as i know), i'll stick with the longer version
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Yeah, all very good points. I certainly hadn't considered the fact that not all lower end guru reset's give a full stock rom with OTA's. :good: and that's exactly why your guide is the best. You have made it as good as it can be. As I say you should be proud of it.
With everything you have in the guide there's no reason why anyone should have to much trouble, as long as they take the time to read through it and understand there requirements before they start the process.
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Yeah, all very good points. I certainly hadn't considered the fact that not all lower end guru reset's give a full stock rom with OTA's. :good: and that's exactly why your guide is the best. You have made it as good as it can be. As I say you should be proud of it.
With everything you have in the guide there's no reason why anyone should have to much trouble, as long as they take the time to read through it and understand there requirements before they start the process.
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i think only one (possibly two) are not entirely correct, nobody's fault in particular, just happened the system dump
wasn't entirely proper
and point 5 (forgot to mention that):
I do expect people to read it over and over and over, until they know what they are getting themselves in to....... i could probably compile Guru RUUs for every nandroid out there, but much of the guide includes a lot of OT information, which (imho) gives a lot of clarity once read :cyclops:
nkk71 said:
i think only one (possibly two) are not entirely correct, nobody's fault in particular, just happened the system dump [emoji14]
wasn't entirely proper
and point 5 (forgot to mention that):
I do expect people to read it over and over and over, until they know what they are getting themselves in to....... i could probably compile Guru RUUs for every nandroid out there, but much of the guide includes a lot of OT information, which (imho) gives a lot of clarity once read :cyclops:
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I totally agree, everything needed is there if people just take the time to read. I certainly didn't have any problems using the nandroid guide as you know.
I did spend at least 3 days familiarizing my self with the procedure. After all if people aren't prepared to do a bit of reading really they probably shouldn't mess with there phones [emoji12]
Short of traveling the world to doit for people you've made it as easy as possible :good:

not really a noob, but still confused anyway... need a little help from my friends...

Project Fi Nexus 6 rooted here on 5.1.1 LVY48E
I keep getting a notice that a system update has been downloaded (29.1) megs..a tad annoying
Would like to run the update, but can't because of TWRP... Also would like to try 6.0 if it is out, just don't want to lose root, and or have to have my phone reset...
I have Wug's nexus root toolkit too
How do I update to the latest L and or/ M???
Looking for some friendly advice....
Thanks!
Forgot to mention that I have tried flashing the update manually to no avail..
Drumrjoe
You can't update your rooted phone with Ota update, only way is to flash the factory image, download latest Nexus 6 factory image from Google and flash it with the tool kit, if you don't know how to flash a factory image, you should see the main thread
And I believe , given the need for a modified boot when rooting Marshmallow, you lose the OTA anyway, no?
aiiee said:
And I believe , given the need for a modified boot when rooting Marshmallow, you lose the OTA anyway, no?
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Thanks for the help! Been using the toolkit to try and flash stock + unroot...
It doesn't seem to be working for me... First tried to update to last version of lollipop.. runs the batch updater after downloading the factory image and extracting.. batch window closes after awhile I wait after no change to phone or toolkit and nothing has changed on phone... tried this with marshmallow too... same thing....
At a loss..
drumrjoe said:
Thanks for the help! Been using the toolkit to try and flash stock + unroot...
It doesn't seem to be working for me... First tried to update to last version of lollipop.. runs the batch updater after downloading the factory image and extracting.. batch window closes after awhile I wait after no change to phone or toolkit and nothing has changed on phone... tried this with marshmallow too... same thing....
At a loss..
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Just do it manually using fastboot. Or since you have TWRP, find a pre-rooted rom.zip you can flash from there.
Lately half the threads are about a toolkit not working. There should be a sticky about this: Don't use toolkits on Nexus phones! Those who don't feel secure enough to enter three lines in a command line/terminal really shouldn't use toolkits either. It gives a feeling of false security for a price of being totally at loss if anything goes wrong. And things do go wrong.
istperson said:
Lately half the threads are about a toolkit not working. There should be a sticky about this: Don't use toolkits on Nexus phones! Those who don't feel secure enough to enter three lines in a command line/terminal really shouldn't use toolkits either. It gives a feeling of false security for a price of being totally at loss if anything goes wrong. And things do go wrong.
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We try to advise people not to use rootkits or kits of any kind. It does nothing but hinder their efforts if something goes wrong. In the end it is people being lazy and then bricks happen and they have no idea what to do.
zelendel said:
We try to advise people not to use rootkits or kits of any kind. It does nothing but hinder their efforts if something goes wrong. In the end it is people being lazy and then bricks happen and they have no idea what to do.
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I think many of us here agree with that. To avoid bashing, we have to say "use them if you like, but learn to use fastboot manually first". But all the work we collectively put in to that as a majority is easily undone when just one person replies "use a toolkit". It almost always ends up in a debate that is so long that when it reaches it's conclusion, the OP ended up using a toolkit anyway.,
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I think many of us here agree with that. To avoid bashing, we have to say "use them if you like, but learn to use fastboot manually first". But all the work we collectively put in to that as a majority is easily undone when just one person replies "use a toolkit". It almost always ends up in a debate that is so long that when it reaches it's conclusion, the OP ended up using a toolkit anyway.,
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I know. All we can do is advise and the lazy will still be lazy and then end up with issues. This is why you will see people post about issues and then the min they mention they have used a root kit all replies stop. There are many of us that refuse to help people that have used a root kit. It shows they should not be messing around with their devices if they dont have the time to learn to do things properly.
Duly noted -
But seriously, thanks for the info.. will be figuring this out!
Best all
DJ
Update-
Sincere thanks to all that replied.. Did not know that the toolkit's were a nono-
I did use the command line to manually update and all is well. I am on LVY48I now and rooted.. Next is to reinstall the latest xposed for 5.1.1.
Also, tried finding a stock pre-rooted marshmallow, but didn't really have any luck with that... any pointers or links?
TIA
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Update-
Sincere thanks to all that replied.. Did not know that the toolkit's were a nono-
I did use the command line to manually update and all is well. I am on LVY48I now and rooted.. Next is to reinstall the latest xposed for 5.1.1.
Also, tried finding a stock pre-rooted marshmallow, but didn't really have any luck with that... any pointers or links?
TIA
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Not 100% sure of this but I believe that Marshmallow will not achieve root without some modification. At least I couldn't

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