Purchased a Moto X for my wife as her first smart phone. She loves it, but even I (currently own a note 3) am blown away by it.
Amazing features, just to small for me and the camera leaves a lot to be desired (compared to my N3)
My question is... I notice that the Android OS seems to be taking up a lot of battery.
More than the screen which is very odd. I did get her 4 hours of screen on time with 16 hours of usage which I wouid say is pretty good, but have android os staying awake for about 2 hours seemed excessive.
Is this bc of the active notification? I factory reset the phone and still notice the Android os high in usage.
Now I don't think she's having bad battery life per say, just want to know of that is normal.
Phone is us gsm unlocked xt1053 on T-Mobile.
Thanks
It's normal. Alot of owners and forum members have noticed this. I have not seen a reason posted here as to why this is. The phone has great battery life so I don't worry about it.
Android OS is made up of services provided to apps, like location services, location reporting, syncing, Google now services...etc. the more things you turn off, the less android OS will be. At the end of a full discharge my android os is usually about 6 percent. But I have most things off. I don't sync things without them being opened first, location services are off, gnow is off...etc. I need great battery life, I'm sometimes away from charging possibilities for 14 hours or more at work and can use my phone a lot sometimes.
Some people don't want to shut stuff off, and so their battery times are more like yours, or worse. Your times seem quite normal if stuff is running.
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Hello everyone,
I've had my Moto X since November and this is the first time I am noticing this problem. Lately, my battery life has taken a dip (I used to get around 14-15 hours with moderate use, now I get about 10. This includes a decent amount of on screen time, music streaming, some netflix, etc.). I've noticed that a large chunk of the battery life is taken by Android OS, usually the screen is the highest with around 22-25 percent, but Android OS is now even higher, around 25-30 percent. It never used to be like this.
Also, this may be related but I'm not sure so I thought I'd mention it anyway. My phone has been getting quite hot to the touch, even when only having the screen on for maybe 5-7 minutes at the time. It gets to the point where I have to shut the screen off for a little and let the phone cool down before I can use it again. This doesn't happen every time, but it has happened enough to the point where I consider it to be a problem, because it never used to happen so frequently or get so hot after only using it a few minutes.
Any ideas? Are there any processes or anything that I should shut off to stop the Android OS battery hogging? Or is this a common problem and Moto will update it in the latest version. Any help you guys can provide would be greatly appreciated. I truly love this phone, and don't want to have to go to AT&T to replace it because working with them is such a damn pain. Thank you all in advance!
Prashramani12 said:
Hello everyone,
I've had my Moto X since November and this is the first time I am noticing this problem. Lately, my battery life has taken a dip (I used to get around 14-15 hours with moderate use, now I get about 10. This includes a decent amount of on screen time, music streaming, some netflix, etc.). I've noticed that a large chunk of the battery life is taken by Android OS, usually the screen is the highest with around 22-25 percent, but Android OS is now even higher, around 25-30 percent. It never used to be like this.
Also, this may be related but I'm not sure so I thought I'd mention it anyway. My phone has been getting quite hot to the touch, even when only having the screen on for maybe 5-7 minutes at the time. It gets to the point where I have to shut the screen off for a little and let the phone cool down before I can use it again. This doesn't happen every time, but it has happened enough to the point where I consider it to be a problem, because it never used to happen so frequently or get so hot after only using it a few minutes.
Any ideas? Are there any processes or anything that I should shut off to stop the Android OS battery hogging? Or is this a common problem and Moto will update it in the latest version. Any help you guys can provide would be greatly appreciated. I truly love this phone, and don't want to have to go to AT&T to replace it because working with them is such a damn pain. Thank you all in advance!
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As always, its location services. And apps using it. Turn it off for a day and see.
Hello All,
I have been noticing battery drainage issues on my Note 4, ever since I got the device. I have had it for a week (I got it on 10-28-14 right from T-Mobile but I didn't fully set it up until the 29th, and today's the 5th) and thought maybe after a few discharges and recharges, I would notice improvement. Coming from a Verizon LG G2, I have been used to starting my day at 8:00AM with 100% and coming home by 6:00PM with 30-40%, without having to employ any Battery Saving features or tricks. Obviously on days where I used my phone more, it will go under 20% and I would turn on battery saving mode, turn off any unnecessary wireless network signals, etc. I have been trying to keep patient because this phone is a spec powerhouse and I know theres just something running wrong in the background, but when I look at Battery usage, 9/10 times, Android system is using up ~40% of my battery, while screen is ~20%.
Has ANYONE had similar issues, or have any ideas on how to fix it?
Notes (no pun intended):
-I have the latest software update, the one that fixed battery life.
-I am running completely stock android, albeit with Nova launcher over touchwiz (all my apps downloaded from Play Store, no root)
- I do have "Ok, google" enabled and always listening
-I have turned off all animations in Developer Options (to counter some of that touchwiz lag)
-I use signals like bluetooth, nfc & gps RARELY, they are usually never on.
-Synch is usually on, because I want my notifications, but I have even turned this and Data off to try to save battery, but even on just Cellular or Wi-Fi, battery drains quick.
-Screen Brightness is on auto, but if I watch a youtube video, I usually turn it up to full.
-I haven't wanted to use power saving just because I shouldn't HAVE to in order to get through my day if I barely turn my phone on.
-Battery drain ranges from 5-15% per hour on mostly standby, the most screen on-time I have gotten thus far is under 2 hrs.
If you want amazing battery life (I'm talking truly 50% more), root your phone and flash FireKatv3 ROM. It's no joke. Dead serious. The battery life is insane, let alone a faster, smoother, lighter, cooler (temp.) phone...whatever you do, don't stay stock. It doesn't do the n4 any justice.
Let me know if you have any other questions. I'd be glad to help.
I've attached a few Screenshots of how today went, barely any usage, yet I drained so much during standby.
iunlock said:
If you want amazing battery life (I'm talking truly 50% more), root your phone and flash FireKatv3 ROM. It's no joke. Dead serious. The battery life is insane, let alone a faster, smoother, lighter, cooler (temp.) phone...whatever you do, don't stay stock. It doesn't do the n4 any justice.
Let me know if you have any other questions. I'd be glad to help.
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Thanks, but for now i wanna keep my warranty and use the S-pen for at least a few months.
I have never seen "android system" to be top battery consumer untill S5 and I have had every Galaxy S there is. It's also not issue specifically with my phone since I have second from ATT with the same issue. Phone is in pristine condition with just basic Gmail, G+ installed. Not rooted on latest firmware.
Is it S5 thing?
i dont know if its an s5 thing, but mine does the same, both before and after rooting/rom
however, my battery life still seems to be good, so i guess im not going to worry.
yesterd i unplugged from the charger about 6am. 4 hours of screen time, watched a bit of video, browsing the internet etc, and i listened to about 5 hours of audio throughout the day, and by 9pm i was at 29%
actually i don't know if that is great or not, but its better than my last phone lol
Yes, that's what I'm experiencing as well - that is relatively good battery life which I assume might be even better if android system did not eat as much.
My device is unrooted
Everything was going great until the newest update that came last week. Since this my battery life has gone down hill fast. I feel like I'm back on my G1.
I have two questions is anyone else having this issue at all?
My other question is all my previous phones have had SD card spots so when I reset myphone all my pictures are stored there. If I reset myphone do I lose all my pictures?
Battery life has been good for me on that build and the recent fi build as well. Do you have a secondary battery meter like better battery stats? There is no sd card in the phone so yes that would be lost.
of course you can check why your battery times have dropped.. like maybe a stuck process or a certain app draining battery. im nearly 100% sure its not because of the update, but it can be user related. your signal quality could be worse as well, which will also drain battery faster.
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My device is unrooted...
My other question is all my previous phones have had SD card spots so when I reset myphone all my pictures are stored there. If I reset myphone do I lose all my pictures?
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yes
why not use an auto photo backup app like picasa or similar?
you really should be doing this regardless. countless times people have come on here all frantic because something happened to their device and they lost all pics needlessly.
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why not use an auto photo backup app like picasa or similar?
you really should be doing this regardless. countless times people have come on here all frantic because something happened to their device and they lost all pics needlessly.
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Cause I dont want Obama see my pictures!!! J/k
You bring up a good point I'll start the back up process when I get home....As I move closer to resetting my phone to see if it will fix my batterylife issue
simms22 said:
of course you can check why your battery times have dropped.. like maybe a stuck process or a certain app draining battery. im nearly 100% sure its not because of the update, but it can be user related. your signal quality could be worse as well, which will also drain battery faster.
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When I feel my phone getting hot or I notice the drain is going on I turn off my phone let it set to cool down or I just straight up restart it.
I live a pretty routine based life, Work, Church, Gym, Home.... So my signal life hasn't changed. My usage hasn't gone up or down....but my battery has since that update.
I do have battery apps to keep an eye on things. Display is number (of course) and number 2 which isn't normal is Android OS.
simms22 said:
of course you can check why your battery times have dropped.. like maybe a stuck process or a certain app draining battery. im nearly 100% sure its not because of the update, but it can be user related. your signal quality could be worse as well, which will also drain battery faster.
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One thing else I just noticed is my phone doesn't hit deep sleep either
Deep sleep is at 4hrs and 300mhz is at 13hrs
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When I feel my phone getting hot or I notice the drain is going on I turn off my phone let it set to cool down or I just straight up restart it.
I live a pretty routine based life, Work, Church, Gym, Home.... So my signal life hasn't changed. My usage hasn't gone up or down....but my battery has since that update.
I do have battery apps to keep an eye on things. Display is number (of course) and number 2 which isn't normal is Android OS.
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well, what ive found out iver the years that im with android is that battery apps are pointless, and end up using your battery. just check you regular battery usage/stats. nobody uses their phones the exact same way every single time, its impossible. and when you are out, walking around, or driving, your signal quality will change, constantly. and apps, many times they will get a process stuck, and drain much more battery than normal. and then there is google play services, that will occasionally drain lits of battery, especially when its updating itself. in reality, there are numerous other reasons, besides the update, that will make you battery drain quicker. too numerous to list, lol.
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well, what ive found out iver the years that im with android is that battery apps are pointless, and end up using your battery. just check you regular battery usage/stats. nobody uses their phones the exact same way every single time, its impossible. and when you are out, walking around, or driving, your signal quality will change, constantly. and apps, many times they will get a process stuck, and drain much more battery than normal. and then there is google play services, that will occasionally drain lits of battery, especially when its updating itself. in reality, there are numerous other reasons, besides the update, that will make you battery drain quicker. too numerous to list, lol.
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my battery also has been going deep underground after last security update! nothing changed in the usage or the number of apps that i keep installed, so the suspect that the drain depends on the update in my opinion is becoming more and more real.
i also keep checking battery's stats and there isn't any anomaly or discrepancy compared to pre-update's stats.
I am in the same boat. I was using about 2-3 percent an hour before the security patch. But since the patch dropped I've been averaging about 10 percent an hour. I have to recharge at least once in the middle of the day. None of my apps changed.
Same here, noticeable difference in battery performance since last weeks update. Only change to apps is I am now using Google fit since last week, thought it was that but battery stats say otherwise.
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So last night I backed up all my pictures on my computer and the cloud. Tonight I will reset my phone before bed Ill have a better idea of what it will do tomorrow. It kinda stinks because I have this zooper/launchy/popup widget masterpiece going on my homescreen
Ill report back....
I have noticed the same issue since the OTA patch. Reminded me of my old Galaxy S where it would not go into deep sleep after being unplugged at a full charge without a reboot. I've gone without a reboot and with rebooting since the update and my phone is much better off after a reboot. About 7% per hour lost without compared to about 3-4% per hour lost with a reboot. Pretty consistent usage on a daily basis. Just my personal observation. I'm on AT&T though.
I got better battery life after the update... But then it went back to normal. I was being about 30 to 45 minutes extra SOT but now I'm back to my average times of 4-4:15 hours
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Take this for what it is.... I wake up at 545 grab my phone since the update by the time I get to work 7am it would be 96 or below.... I reset my phone last night and the phone seems back to normal at 99%-98%when I sit at my desk..... All apps reloaded and working before bed.....
My N6 is worse off for battery too after OTA update of last week. Seems like Google Services has just gotten a lot more aggressive doing what it is supposed to be doing. I hope Marshmallow will fix this.
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Well, mine also loses a lot per hr...and it alsways is the cell interface that is being kept awake over hours of time during a day.
Mainly email and Google services are the apps sucking it off...
Any ideas?
Factory reset and back to normal so far.
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I recently picked up a Moto G 2014 for a family member since it was on sale and I'm having a bit of trouble, at least I think I am. This person hardly uses the phone, doesn't make calls every day but putters around on it, listens to music occasionally. Real basic use stuff. The battery only seems to last a day. In trying to diagnose/troubleshoot it without rooting or voiding warranty, it seems like it's draining excessively. Just sitting with all the apps closed on the home screen, it's burning up about 180-210 mA according to Ampere. Now, my LG G2 reliably uses 30mA on the home screen without apps running. Apples & oranges, I know but shouldn't the value on the Moto G be lower? Does anyone else use Ampere and have similar readings? With the little use this phone sees, I'd imagine people that use it regularly have to charge multiple times a day to keep the phone alive and I can't see the Motorola engineers doing that. I've tried closing and disabling apps that aren't used and there doesn't seem to be much that goes on. So I'm not sure if this is normal or if something's wrong. I have done all the OTA updates and also tried a factory reset, it made no difference. I'm tempted to root & install the official CM but if there's something wrong with the phone, I want to get it fixed through Motorola first.
Any ideas for this Moto newbie? Thanks in advance.
Here's some screenshots of the battery stats in case anyone's curious:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/464376/phone/moto/Screenshot_2015-11-22-11-33-48.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/464376/phone/moto/Screenshot_2015-11-22-11-33-55.png
I'm getting 160-170 mA after clearing all the recent apps with CM 12.1. But battery life is not bad at all. About 1 day with 5+hours of SoT or 2-3days with 3+ hours of SoT. So I don't really care.
Ps.: I don't think that 30mA is enough for phone to run with screen ON. Maybe in sleep mode.. 30mA is way too small value. I also found an article about power consumption of smartphones: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1212.1896.pdf
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I'm getting 160-170 mA after clearing all the recent apps with CM 12.1. But battery life is not bad at all. About 1 day with 5+hours of SoT or 2-3days with 3+ hours of SoT. So I don't really care.
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That sounds significantly better than what my Moto G is getting. I doubt the phone sees 2 hours of SoT in a day but the battery barely lasts a day. I'm hoping it's just hoggy apps and that CM will clean things up.
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Ps.: I don't think that 30mA is enough for phone to run with screen ON. Maybe in sleep mode.. 30mA is way too small value. I also found an article about power consumption of smartphones: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1212.1896.pdf
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I think you're right actually. Looking at the Ampere stats, it shows 30mA as the max draw, even after opening several apps and running. I thought this seemed right for idle but it's always stuck there under load.
Actually I had a similar problem with my Moto G on stock. Did you use GPS? Because when I turn on and off gps on my phone it remains ON and drains my battery pretty fast, until I restart my phone. So whenever I use GPS I have to turn it off in settings and restart my phone in order to turn it off.
OK so if u really want a decent battery life. Just turn of sync, location and keep scanning In advanced WiFi settings.
Since its showing Google services as culprit, turning sync off would probably solve the issue.
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