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Concerning Cellular Nationwide Network.. Need Advice

I placed an order with www.cnn.cn in december (a lcd screen for Kaiser as maybe user on this forum had suggested as the owner is a good guy and very fair prices) and decided i didnt need it as i could get a warranty replacement...and they agreed to allow me to have it sent back by "return to sender" method..it took about a month to get back and they said they received it and said theyd refund my money...i emailed back after a month and he said the refund was overlooked his colleage would take care of it..now over 3 months from the date they recieved it i ahvent heard from them...ive sent them multiple emails and no reponse at all...any advice would be nice as i know many of you probably have done business with this guy(s)...

They have a phone number listed on their site:
http://cnn.cn/shop/contact_us.php
I would call during their hours. I'm sure they speak english (even if broken). Get someone on the phone and figure it out.
Hopefully they will be reasonable and this was just an error that they overlooked.
If however they plead ignorance, or that they never got anything from you, there might not be much that you can do.
However, each of these things that you have can strengthen your case:
1) E-mails from them stating they received your merchandise and they are refunding you the money
2) Receipts/tracking info from your returned item to them. The fact that you sent it "return to sender" doesn't bode well for you here unless you have some proof you refused the package.
Since this is a foreign company there might not be alot you can do. Mail fraud might be a possible basis depending on how this transaction was carried out. Also, if you made the purchase on a credit card, check with your credit card company as they might be able to assist (AmEx is very good with this).
As always, contact them...speak directly to them...plead your case...be reasonable. Give them another week or two to sort things out. Get a date from them as to when it will be resolved. If after this time they still haven't resolved it, you may need to get beliggerent and make some threats (even if empty ones) about credit/postal fraud etc.
In the end however you might just need to eat the money for the screen and be more careful with how you transact in the future.
good luck!

wow that was fast, thanks for the detailed info...now i need to work on getting a hong kong calling card lol...ill call verizon and see how much it would be to call them (i have FioS so it should be cheap)

So now I can cancel my order. I recieved an

an email from Google this morning asking if I meant to order 2 16gb Nexus 4s and if not I could now cancel my order. I guess Google had to re-jigger their cancel system because of all the inadvertent multiple orders, because when I tried to cancel one of the Nexii about 2 hours after ordering I was told I would have to refuse shipment in order to accomplish this. I was able to successfully cancel the extra phone without a problem. Weird.

I wish you hadn't cancelled it, I'm sure there are lots of people who'd be happy to buy off the accidentally purchased phones! I, for one, am one of those people.

I am sure you could find someone on here to buy the second one off you.

It's possible he doesn't have the money for 2.

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It's possible he doesn't have the money for 2.
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My point exactly - I ordered 2 due to constant retries to get the order through and I will have to pay for them (Google already has a 'hold' on the funds from my credit card, even though they ain't shipped yet).
Luckily, the person I arrange to sell my second one to has already paid me.

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We have several threads dedicated to shipping/orders, some are even dedicated to specific countries. Please use one of those for this type of discussion
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[Q] Anyone ( for whatever reason ) returned their Glass?

I've had my glass since this past weekend, and as fun as a neat gimmick can be, it kind of got old fast. I have multiple issues with mine ( understanding it isn't a finished product ). Some of the problems I'm running into are;
Turning itself on ( I'll charge it for the night and keep it turned off, and when I unplug it in the morning, they're already on somehow )
Really poor battery life ( I know some people report bad battery, but, this is beyond it. It's on standby most of the time, and I'll still only get maybe 4-5 hours on it )
Very poor Wi-Fi ( Even when I'm in the same room as my router, I show only 1-2 bars is strength )
At this point, the glass has failed to really blow me away as a new device, however, I've noticed Google says if returned, there is none right now, but in the future could later charge a re-stocking fee. I'm wondering if anyone has returned theirs for whatever reason and have been charged one? If mine is having such issues and was sent back, I would like to assume the worst is I'd pay for my own shipping+handling.
Thoughts and/or experience?

MisterRich said:
I've had my glass since this past weekend, and as fun as a neat gimmick can be, it kind of got old fast. I have multiple issues with mine ( understanding it isn't a finished product ). Some of the problems I'm running into are;
Turning itself on ( I'll charge it for the night and keep it turned off, and when I unplug it in the morning, they're already on somehow )
Really poor battery life ( I know some people report bad battery, but, this is beyond it. It's on standby most of the time, and I'll still only get maybe 4-5 hours on it )
Very poor Wi-Fi ( Even when I'm in the same room as my router, I show only 1-2 bars is strength )
At this point, the glass has failed to really blow me away as a new device, however, I've noticed Google says if returned, there is none right now, but in the future could later charge a re-stocking fee. I'm wondering if anyone has returned theirs for whatever reason and have been charged one? If mine is having such issues and was sent back, I would like to assume the worst is I'd pay for my own shipping+handling.
Thoughts and/or experience?
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Where did you see the return policy? I have had them for 12 hours, and like yourself, am not blown away. Is that it? I keep saying to myself. I have a couple account issues, as it seems only to be able to recognize one gmail account at a time. They are neat, but not $1500.00 neat.

Exactly my thoughts. Not $1,500 neat. Especially acknowledging in the future production release there's no chance they'll retail $1,500 as well. My guess is once a final product is released they'll be 1/3 of that price. Moving along from that, here is where I read the terms for Glass including return information:
https://www.google.com/glass/terms/
Return Policy
If for any reason you do not wish to keep your Device, you have up to 30 days from the date the Device is delivered to you to cancel your purchase of the Device and your contract with Google. If you exercise your right of cancellation and the Device has been delivered to you, you are responsible for returning the Device as soon as possible and at your own cost. To initiate a return please contact Glass Support and obtain a return authorization. For some returns Google may charge you a restocking fee. Please review the restocking policies posted here to determine whether such fees apply to you. Upon Google's receipt of the returned Device, Google will issue a refund in your Google Wallet account using your initial payment method minus any applicable shipping and handling and restocking fees.
You must take reasonable care of the items that you wish to return, and we request that you return the Device with its original packaging and any accessories. Upon Google's receipt of the returned Device, Google will issue a refund in your Google Wallet account for the amount paid for the Device, less any shipping and handling charges, within a reasonable time. If you decide to cancel the purchase of the relevant Device as set out in this paragraph and if you fail to return the Device in accordance with these Terms, you may be charged a sum for our direct cost of recovering that Device, and we may deduct that sum from your refund.
I did actually just get off the phone with Google Glass support this morning and informed them the glass program wasn't right for me. They did send a return shipping label to send back. So far so good, so I will probably be sending them back this upcoming week.

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Exactly my thoughts. Not $1,500 neat. Especially acknowledging in the future production release there's no chance they'll retail $1,500 as well. My guess is once a final product is released they'll be 1/3 of that price. Moving along from that, here is where I read the terms for Glass including return information:
https://www.google.com/glass/terms/
Return Policy
If for any reason you do not wish to keep your Device, you have up to 30 days from the date the Device is delivered to you to cancel your purchase of the Device and your contract with Google. If you exercise your right of cancellation and the Device has been delivered to you, you are responsible for returning the Device as soon as possible and at your own cost. To initiate a return please contact Glass Support and obtain a return authorization. For some returns Google may charge you a restocking fee. Please review the restocking policies posted here to determine whether such fees apply to you. Upon Google's receipt of the returned Device, Google will issue a refund in your Google Wallet account using your initial payment method minus any applicable shipping and handling and restocking fees.
You must take reasonable care of the items that you wish to return, and we request that you return the Device with its original packaging and any accessories. Upon Google's receipt of the returned Device, Google will issue a refund in your Google Wallet account for the amount paid for the Device, less any shipping and handling charges, within a reasonable time. If you decide to cancel the purchase of the relevant Device as set out in this paragraph and if you fail to return the Device in accordance with these Terms, you may be charged a sum for our direct cost of recovering that Device, and we may deduct that sum from your refund.
I did actually just get off the phone with Google Glass support this morning and informed them the glass program wasn't right for me. They did send a return shipping label to send back. So far so good, so I will probably be sending them back this upcoming week.
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Please keep this thread updated. I just purchased my explore glass in tangerine and am not sure if I will be holding onto my pair for the $1,700 the total cost ended up being. (I opted for the stereo headset as well + tax) I'm really excited to try them out but after reading threads like these feel like I may have a similar experience. My delivery is scheduled for tomorrow, hopefully they arrive before I have to go to work. I would like to know the return process and outcome for you. Thanks

kflanegan said:
Please keep this thread updated. I just purchased my explore glass in tangerine and am not sure if I will be holding onto my pair for the $1,700 the total cost ended up being. (I opted for the stereo headset as well + tax) I'm really excited to try them out but after reading threads like these feel like I may have a similar experience. My delivery is scheduled for tomorrow, hopefully they arrive before I have to go to work. I would like to know the return process and outcome for you. Thanks
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Hey guys, I did return my Glass, only reason being was Money, couldn't afford it after plumbing issues at the house. You have 30 days to do so. Just contact Glass support, let them know. They send you a box and a UPS label, pack everything up, ship it back to them, and about a week later you'll get a full refund. No restocking fee or anything. A VERY easy and painless process.

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Hey guys, I did return my Glass, only reason being was Money, couldn't afford it after plumbing issues at the house. You have 30 days to do so. Just contact Glass support, let them know. They send you a box and a UPS label, pack everything up, ship it back to them, and about a week later you'll get a full refund. No restocking fee or anything. A VERY easy and painless process.
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Good info- I have had mine since Dec. 13th. I've had a few issues-
Why can't the battery be on the left side?? All the weight it on one side, not terrible but just kinda funky-
Where the metal ends right above my right ear, scratches my ear- I've seen multiple people complaining about this and putting mole skin on it-
Plain home screen? Just the time?
No real settings? No ability to clear cards?
Battery isn't terrible bad (unless you're showing them to everyone).
Yea it's neat but still way too early for a release. I'm going to send mine back and get my $1,620 back... Sooner rather than later too- If they fall off my head and break they're not returnable and can't be fixed.
Anybody ever think about selling them on ebay?? I've seen a few pair go for $2,000+ within the last few days, only a couple hundred $ profit after ebay fees but still better than returning for $0 profit...

Just like mentioned above, it was really painless. I called Google support and their emailed me a shipping label. They however did not send me a box. I will maybe try contacting them again to see if they'd be willing to do so because I'd rather send it back in their custom box than something I put together. I considered selling them on eBay but their privacy policy does mention they don't want owners selling it third party, and I'd hate to be in the scenario someone who buys it has a problem and then tries contacting Google Glass support and find out I was the original owner by serial and they get upset with me for breaking the policy. Maybe I'm just over paranoid.
Anyways, seems quite painless as long as you do it within the 30 days, the support was very prompt and polite and didn't dispute the problem. I informed them they just weren't meeting my needs. I just couldn't keep them charged in order to play with them. Hope this helps anyone who's curious.

MisterRich said:
Just like mentioned above, it was really painless. I called Google support and their emailed me a shipping label. They however did not send me a box. I will maybe try contacting them again to see if they'd be willing to do so because I'd rather send it back in their custom box than something I put together. I considered selling them on eBay but their privacy policy does mention they don't want owners selling it third party, and I'd hate to be in the scenario someone who buys it has a problem and then tries contacting Google Glass support and find out I was the original owner by serial and they get upset with me for breaking the policy. Maybe I'm just over paranoid.
Anyways, seems quite painless as long as you do it within the 30 days, the support was very prompt and polite and didn't dispute the problem. I informed them they just weren't meeting my needs. I just couldn't keep them charged in order to play with them. Hope this helps anyone who's curious.
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I have also initiated my return process through email. I'll keep the thread updated with my experience. I used my Glasses over the past week in various circumstances and while I enjoyed the neat factor and various built in features cannot currently justify the high price tag for my everyday use. My main concerns are battery life and real world use case scenario's. My battery typically lasted 3-4 hours maybe 5-6 with light use. This seems short for the hardware involved and tiny screen the device needs to power. I believe if there was a more expansive settings menu where wifi and bluetooth could be turned off when not in use battery life could easily be extended to 7-8 hours for taking pictures/videos and such. I couldn't find enough use cases for the current crop of glassware available and found the cards for updates very annoying after they built up over the days and week I used Glass. No way to dismiss them apparently even after a factory reset and new setup. Anyway when it's all said and done I felt very lucky to have the opportunity to use Glass even for just one week. This experience has kept me very interested in the new technology and I tried to evangelize and give any interested geeks the chance to try out my pair whenever someone came up to me and asked questions. I won't miss all the stares from people who had no idea what was on my face and certainly let me know it when I glanced their way. Also constantly worrying about where the glasses are and making sure they were safe and not in danger will be a sigh of relief.

I initiated my return process via phone this morning. I should be getting an empty box with a shipping label. Indeed it was a very neat gadget but I simply could not justify the 1600 price tag on it. It's got a lot of great apps that have potential though. I will be following the news about them closely still.
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Got the box Monday morning. It seems from the instructions that they alloted no room for the accessories in the return box?

Agreed
All of the aforementioned issues appear to be the norm. I contacted Google for return and got the hard sell, and decided to try them for another week just for good measure, but battery life coupled with price vs utility makes keeping them unlikely. Although I DO like the Tesla and Strava apps quite a bit.

motomaker order issues

So on Tuesday the 9th I ordered a pure edition moto x with the cyber monday code.
I used a visa debit and had the shipping address in washington state at a shipping/receiving location that I use all the time for amazon and ebay purchases. (its a verified paypal address also)
Got an email a couple hours later saying my order was on hold and gave me a number to call.
I phoned them and after being on hold for a bit they said that the shipping address I used wasn't going to work as it was a 3rd party location. (dont know how they knew that as it is just addressed to my name with a street address....)
So I re ordered using the Cali address associated with the visa... I'll be there in a couple weeks.
Couple hours later got another email saying the order is on hold and to call. So I called and went through several different reps all not knowing why my order was on hold. They said I will get a confirmation email within 72hrs and all would be well. Also gave me a 25$ voucher for accessories for my trouble. (this I never received)
Fastforward to today I get an email saying my order has been canceled (the second order)(still nothing regarding the first order which I assume is canceled)
So I called and went through 2 reps and then a supervisor who said that I should use a different card and that maybe the issue was with my cc company. (this process took about 45 mins)
Checked with my bank and find out that as this is a Visa debit there has been two WITHDRAWALS from my bank account. (adding up to basically 1000$
So I called back and relayed this new information to yet another rep. He says that though my email said cancelled it just means it is still under review and I should hear something within 72 hours. He offered me the 25$ discount and this one I actually did get...
Any tips on what to do??? Right now I'm out a grand...have no Idea if i will get a phone...
lets hear your motomaker horror stories

I can't offer any suggestions for your current predicament, but for the future I'd offer two suggestions;
1 Use a credit card Instead of debit.
2 Always use your residential address.
I hope this works out for you. Good luck.

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I can't offer any suggestions for your current predicament, but for the future I'd offer two suggestions;
1 Use a credit card Instead of debit.
2 Always use your residential address.
I hope this works out for you. Good luck.
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I do not have a non debit credit card...others have used their visa debit cards without issue... I have no other choice.
I did use my residential address the second time....
Anybody have their order say it "remains cancelled" and then have it go through?

Call your bank.

Well they just refunded both charges...without explanation
So I placed the order again...only now the turbo charger is out of stock this is seriously frustrating....

jeetS said:
Well they just refunded both charges...without explanation
So I placed the order again...only now the turbo charger is out of stock this is seriously frustrating....
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Got a "on hold" response almost immediately...:crying:

128GB models available anywhere?

I've called around to several Verizon stores in my area, and they all say that the 128GB will not be available in either Edge or non-Edge until May 1. The Verizon website says the same thing.
Has anyone on Verizon successfully received a 128GB model yet? If so, what's the trick?

eyc said:
I've called around to several Verizon stores in my area, and they all say that the 128GB will not be available in either Edge or non-Edge until May 1. The Verizon website says the same thing.
Has anyone on Verizon successfully received a 128GB model yet? If so, what's the trick?
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I preordered mine on 4-1 and it's supposed to ship tomorrow 4-17. The wait has been killing me! For whatever reason the 128gb models seem to have been on backorder or something.

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I preordered mine on 4-1 and it's supposed to ship tomorrow 4-17. The wait has been killing me! For whatever reason the 128gb models seem to have been on backorder or something.
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Yea, it's hard to wait, but maybe it's a good thing. By May 1, they hopefully will have worked out all the screen-defect issues. I just want to walk into a store and pick one up and inspect it on the spot, rather than have them mail it out to me and go through that whole charade of returning and exchanging.

Preordered my 128GB Edge on 4/1 and finally got tracking number today. Will be delivered on Monday!
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Just asking again: Has anyone bought a 128GB edge in store anywhere?

I just had lunch with a friend of mine who works in a Verizon store as a sales manager there. He told me that the 128GB models were going to be few and far between in the stores because a majority of people coming in didn't need that much storage. A vast majority of the S6's they are selling only have 32gb or 64gb at the most. Its very rare that someone come in off the street and ask for 128gb. If they do, then they point them to the website because it will get fulfilled much faster that way.
In short, if you want one of these things, just put in an order on the website and you will get one a lot faster. Otherwise, if you are determined to pick one up in store, start calling around to all the stores in your area now. If you find one that has one, then ask them to hold it for you and go down and get it. You will be very lucky.

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I just had lunch with a friend of mine who works in a Verizon store as a sales manager there. He told me that the 128GB models were going to be few and far between in the stores because a majority of people coming in didn't need that much storage. A vast majority of the S6's they are selling only have 32gb or 64gb at the most. Its very rare that someone come in off the street and ask for 128gb. If they do, then they point them to the website because it will get fulfilled much faster that way.
In short, if you want one of these things, just put in an order on the website and you will get one a lot faster. Otherwise, if you are determined to pick one up in store, start calling around to all the stores in your area now. If you find one that has one, then ask them to hold it for you and go down and get it. You will be very lucky.
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Thanks a lot cbdudek. That's very helpful information. I was only hoping to buy one in store so that I could immediately inspect it for scratches and return it if necessary. I'm just going to hope that those issues have been resolved or reduced since the scratch thread has died down a bit.

eyc said:
Thanks a lot cbdudek. That's very helpful information. I was only hoping to buy one in store so that I could immediately inspect it for scratches and return it if necessary. I'm just going to hope that those issues have been resolved or reduced since the scratch thread has died down a bit.
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I can confirm his information. A local VZW store manager (that i've known my whole life) said they were basically told they wouldn't be getting any in the store. Might be different at upscale urban locations, but not here in suburbia.

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I can confirm his information. A local VZW store manager (that i've known my whole life) said they were basically told they wouldn't be getting any in the store. Might be different at upscale urban locations, but not here in suburbia.
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Thanks. No different at "upscale" urban locations either. Apparently, Verizon has a 3-story "Verizon Experience Store" (who the hell knew?) right on Michigan Avenue (a/k/a The Mag Mile) in Chicago--which apparently carries all sorts of accessories and products that normal Verizon's don't carry--and even they don't have it. Of course, they all have 128GB iPhones. F*&#ing A. So frustrating.

Richmond, VA area... No 128GB in the local half dozen stores. I had received my first S6 Edge via preorder but had the screen rotate bug. Went to a local store to return and reorder (Not exchange risking refurbished phone). After 1.5 hour wait on Sunday, it took them another 45 minutes to process the return and they couldn't ever figure out how to process the repurchase at the same price I had online despite no less than 12 trips to the "manager". I gave up on the reorder and went home. BTW, I had already moved my service back to my old phone via tech support on Saturday and factory wiped the return phone. I made this real simple for them... I thought!
Online it took me exactly 2 minutes and 47 seconds to arrange the reorder. At least the store did the return properly so that I had the upgrade credit reinstated. Target ship date 5/1. Received shipping notification today and I will have the replacement tomorrow 5/29...All good! Let's just hope that I have no scratches or repeating rotate bug.!
Lesson for Verizon if they are listening... Your in store experience just plain sucks and needs some serious attention. I will never ever ever go through that again. BTW Verizon, this is the voice of a customer whose records with you ONLY goes back to year 2000. Actual linkage goes back to 1985 with Cellular One.... (Acquisition, acquisition, etc..)
I was told that I could not guarantee a brand new phone if I exchanged online and that the only way to insure I would not get refurbished was to go through the store process I suffered. Never again! I will push and escalate of something like this happens in the future. Anything to avoid "The store". Verizon.. ..Give online (AKA Low cost to you) users the same capabilities as if they go into the store! "Can you hear me now?"