[Q] Is there a new way to S-off now? - HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity

I'm scared of even touching the hardware, is there any new methods to S-off that doesn't require any wire tricks?
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Sleetback said:
I'm scared of even touching the hardware, is there any new methods to S-off that doesn't require any wire tricks?
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Nope. I was worried about it, but it is pretty easy if you read all the instructions very carefully, and it is unlikely to cause any problem. The instructions are long, but they do work.

I can't do it man. Nope nope nope. I'm better off flashing S-On. :banghead:
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Sleetback said:
I can't do it man. Nope nope nope. I'm better off flashing S-On. :banghead:
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In all honesty, unless you were thinking of messing around with the radio (potential for some hardcore bricking) or the other protected partitions (I think you can change the HTC boot logo?), putting your phone to S-OFF would only:
-allow for you to set your phone back to "locked" as opposed to "re-locked"
-unlock your SIM without paying some $10-$15 to a site
-be convenient in that you would no longer need to separately flash boot.img

Yeah I am also scared to S-OFF, just doesn't seem worth it to me when it just adds one step (flashing the kernel manually) to loading a new rom

Yeah; for me personally I am more concerned if I go to flash ,say, recovery while in s-off and accidentally flash the recovery image to hboot (or another normally protected partition) and seriously screw myself. The actual shorting of the wires is pretty damn safe, and s-off can be reversed, but hey, to each his own comfort zone.
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projectisaac said:
In all honesty, unless you were thinking of messing around with the radio (potential for some hardcore bricking) or the other protected partitions (I think you can change the HTC boot logo?), putting your phone to S-OFF would only:
-allow for you to set your phone back to "locked" as opposed to "re-locked"
-unlock your SIM without paying some $10-$15 to a site
-be convenient in that you would no longer need to separately flash boot.img
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Nope, i wasn't thinking of anything hardcore as to meddling with the raidio.
But yea, i was thinking of going S-OFF for me being able to flash with ease AND change my splash screen. That's about it.
So, i think it ain't worth it. For me atleast.

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[ROM] Restore to unrooted GB from ICS (AT&T)

Howdy!
What is this?
This is a PH39IMG.zip that you flash via HBOOT to restore your phone to stock unrooted Gingerbread shipping ROM. This will also remove Clockwork Recovery
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Why should I use this/care?
If you've updated your phone to the Ice Cream Sandwich build that AT&T pushed out OTA, or flashed your phone manually, you may at some point in time wish to go back to Gingerbread.
If you do, you'll find that the PH39IMG.zip and RUU that you would have previously tried to use don't work, since ICS updated your HBOOT.
This is essentially a "return to warranty" kit. This doesn't remove the "*UNLOCKED*" flag on HBOOT, but it will allow you to return to some semblance of stock just in case.
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How do I use this?
Your bootloader must be unlocked to flash this.
Download the file, put it on your external SD, and boot to HBOOT. Accept the update when prompted.
If you're trying to return your phone to AT&T for warranty, you should probably also re-lock your bootloader also ("fastboot oem lock")
Please note!
This is not for HTC Raider / Velocity / Generic Holiday users!
This restores the shipping HTC Vivid ROM for AT&T.
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Downloads
Restore to unrooted Gingerbread Stock: http://goo-inside.me/private/iomonster/htcvivid/roms/restore-gb-from-ics/PH39IMG.zip
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Hopefully this should alleviate some of the fears associated with updating your phone.
I will upload a "return to stock ICS" ph39img here too soon...
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Youssarian said:
Ok, I was stuck in boot loop after OTA, then going to the rooted rom. Could not get it to play nice. Tried this to take me back to GB so I could start over and did the above exactly. After running the update, which appears to work with the little status bar going up and down as it should, it gets stuck at the Hboot screen. (Attached.)
After pulling the battery, it boots to HTC white screen, reboots once, then sticks on the HTC white screen. I can get back to Hboot, but not sure where to proceed from here?
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How do you have S-OFF?
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JEANRIVERA said:
How do you have S-OFF?
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His device came like that when it was purchased
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Youssarian said:
Ok, I was stuck in boot loop after OTA, then going to the rooted rom. Could not get it to play nice. Tried this to take me back to GB so I could start over and did the above exactly. After running the update, which appears to work with the little status bar going up and down as it should, it gets stuck at the Hboot screen. (Attached.)
After pulling the battery, it boots to HTC white screen, reboots once, then sticks on the HTC white screen. I can get back to Hboot, but not sure where to proceed from here?
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What I did was take out the sd card and put into a card reader and deleted the ph file then booted back into fastboot to finish process
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Youssarian said:
Ok, I was stuck in boot loop after OTA, then going to the rooted rom. Could not get it to play nice. Tried this to take me back to GB so I could start over and did the above exactly. After running the update, which appears to work with the little status bar going up and down as it should, it gets stuck at the Hboot screen. (Attached.)
After pulling the battery, it boots to HTC white screen, reboots once, then sticks on the HTC white screen. I can get back to Hboot, but not sure where to proceed from here?
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You need to pull the PH39IMG.zip file off your SD card as Hboot looks for it to see if an update is available before it does anything else.
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Is there anyway to flash this on lock boot loaders.
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Dxtra said:
Is there anyway to flash this on lock boot loaders.
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If your bootloader was relocked prior to attempting to flash the RUU or PH39img.zip, then youre doing the right thing.
8125Omnimax said:
If your bootloader was relocked prior to attempting to flash the RUU or PH39img.zip, then youre doing the right thing.
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I've never got a chance to unlock the bootloaders. I was completely stock before the ics update.
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You must have your bootloader unlocked to flash this image. You can re-lock it afterwords, but you may get a *SECURITY WARNING* in HBOOT, since if you have the new HBOOT, you technically should also have stock ICS.
Until a *working* ICS RUU surfaces, this is as good as it gets.
thecubed said:
Until a *working* ICS RUU surfaces, this is as good as it gets.
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i posted a working RUU already....
Pirateghost said:
i posted a working RUU already....
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Of the same version as the OTA? Apologies if so
thecubed said:
Of the same version as the OTA? Apologies if so
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2 minor revisions lower than the OTA.....but it serves as an EASY way for the ravenous n00bs to get ICS
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2 minor revisions lower than the OTA.....but it serves as an EASY way for the ravenous n00bs to get ICS
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And that's why I just downloaded and am installing now! Thanks much!!
hey cubed, how are you?
before unlocking bootloader, i flashed the ics ruu so i'm on new hboot and radio,
since i unlocked bootloader and running a wc's 3.5 rom, however i have an issue, when i talk on the phone from speaker, ppl hear their echo, so i'm thinking radio issue, i tried to flash back the gb ruu and no go cuz of bootloader, so i downgraded with the method in OP but it didn't downgrade radio, i tried again to flash gb ruu and no luck, i put the radio.img from the gb ruu into ur zip and now it won't recognize it at all (guessing due to signature) so i'm flashing the stock ics ruu now to see if im gona have the same problem or not. by the way when i flashed ur downgrade zip and loaded, the phone would not connect to any network at all and being a stock rom the option to search for network is greyed out.
so i'm guessing bottom line is im stuck with this new radio since we don't have s-off correct?
is there any way so far to totally downgrade back to the original ship ruu ? bootloader, radio and all ?
thanks
lebmb said:
hey cubed, how are you?
before unlocking bootloader, i flashed the ics ruu so i'm on new hboot and radio,
since i unlocked bootloader and running a wc's 3.5 rom, however i have an issue, when i talk on the phone from speaker, ppl hear their echo, so i'm thinking radio issue, i tried to flash back the gb ruu and no go cuz of bootloader, so i downgraded with the method in OP but it didn't downgrade radio, i tried again to flash gb ruu and no luck, i put the radio.img from the gb ruu into ur zip and now it won't recognize it at all (guessing due to signature) so i'm flashing the stock ics ruu now to see if im gona have the same problem or not. by the way when i flashed ur downgrade zip and loaded, the phone would not connect to any network at all and being a stock rom the option to search for network is greyed out.
so i'm guessing bottom line is im stuck with this new radio since we don't have s-off correct?
is there any way so far to totally downgrade back to the original ship ruu ? bootloader, radio and all ?
thanks
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I really don't think it's a radio issue. I believe it's a network issue. I've had an echo on several devices I've used from the original iPhone through iPhone 4 blackberrys inspire and now vivid. But it is not all the time just every once in a while.
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jayv81 said:
I really don't think it's a radio issue. I believe it's a network issue. I've had an echo on several devices I've used from the original iPhone through iPhone 4 blackberrys inspire and now vivid. But it is not all the time just every once in a while.
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yeah i've had it happen randomly before in some phones, but this is consistent every single call for the past 3 days. in different areas, with different people at different times.
i just finished flashing the stock ics ruu and it connected to the network fine and made a couple of quick phone calls and no echo
btw the ppl i talk to hear them selves, i don't hear any echo, it all sounds well on my end. im gona try another 3.5 rom and see what happens
EDIT: just tried holiraider, and it did it. leme see what other roms i can flash
so a quick update, even with a custom sense 3.0 rom, i can't connect to a network at all, it only works with 3.5 roms and i people i talk to have an echo, and only fix is running an ics rom, for some reason when i push the ics ril files into a 3.5 rom i loose all network connections, baseband says unknown and all the phone info except serial number is unknown in the hardware info.
so very strange. so even when using this guide, and restoring the fully stock gb i still cant use the phone
uploaded wrong screenies, i'll update in a sec
EDIT: well i tried again, and flashed thecubed zip and i'm back on the stock 3.0 unrooted, and i noticed that i was able to get the signal up and running when i toggle wifi. by default on first boot its on, so i connected to my wifi as usual, but i dunno why i just turned it off so the network came right up and all was fine with the signal. i turned wifi back on and no problems. i turned it off, no problems. so i restarted the phone, and it won't connect to the network, so i turn wifi on and now i am connected and have full signal. strange, so i wonder if that's due to the radio, or something happened to my phone since i seem to be the only one having those issues

[Q] Install AT&T OTA Update with unlocked bootloader?

So I'm wanting to install the OTA ICS update but it fails and I get the little red exclamation point when I try.. I am assuming this is because my bootloader is unlocked? I've been trying to find a way to install it but the only one I found was one requiring S-OFF which I don't have..
So basically my question is can I install ICS on my rooted unlocked bootloader?
If absolutely necessary I can always lock it, install, then re unlock it but that's such a pain.. AT&T gets on my nerves sometimes..
I am almost positive that you have to do the re-lock process unless somehow they found another way. You should probably read around next time. Most likely, someone has already asked your question.
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I've read quite a few threads but haven't been able to find anything.. and like I said, I did find one but it requires S-OFF and the juniper thing, or whatever to lazy to look up the name right now lol, is not released yet.. and I haven't been able to find another way to get S-OFF..
If you want ics that bad you have to do it like every one else here...there is no reason to whine cause your to lazy to relock the bootloader ..it take all of about three mins for me to relock mine ... and about 20 min to do the whole process...you don't need s off to get ics if your using the vivid or velocity. there's no place for lazy people here so please just do it like ever one else or do with out
I'm fully aware you don't NEED S-OFF to get ICS its the only way I have found to do it with an unlocked bootloader if you even bothered to read my post. And if your going to be rude and unhelpful stay out of my thread, people like you are why forums loose members. I simply asked a question I never said I was lazy and wouldn't do it I was simply looking for an easier alternative.
The S-OFF is obviously a mistake, because if it was S-OFF then you wouldn't have to do fastboot oem lock.
Yes, you have to relock the bootloader. Make sure you kept your unlock_code.bin or else you might not be able to unlock the bootloader again.
To be extra safe you should flash stock recovery before you do anything.
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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becandl said:
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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Yes you can currently root the official ota of ics.
becandl said:
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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Your best bet is to relock the boot loader then run the ruu for the vivid then re unlock and do your flashes
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
The S-OFF is obviously a mistake, because if it was S-OFF then you wouldn't have to do fastboot oem lock.
Yes, you have to relock the bootloader. Make sure you kept your unlock_code.bin or else you might not be able to unlock the bootloader again.
To be extra safe you should flash stock recovery before you do anything.
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ccb101 said:
Your best bet is to relock the boot loader then run the ruu for the vivid then re unlock and do your flashes
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Hmm well OTA still kept failing for me, even after relocking the bootloader.. I ended up having to download the RUU from HTC Support and install it through my computer using HTC Sync.. which kinda sucked but it still at least installed ICS..
lmftmf said:
Yes you can currently root the official ota of ics.
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and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
Iomega0318 said:
and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
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There are plenty of options out there. Since you now have an updated HBOOT, flash a recovery image and CWM a rooted stock ROM.
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Thanks for the help guys. I relocked the bootloader and ran the RUU, then did the OTA. After that I used the noob proof tool thing in the dev forums and installed the WCX recovery and then rooted with the same tool as well. Currently typing on it, and loving it!
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There is another way.
Iomega0318 said:
Hmm well OTA still kept failing for me, even after relocking the bootloader.. I ended up having to download the RUU from HTC Support and install it through my computer using HTC Sync.. which kinda sucked but it still at least installed ICS..
and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
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I was on stock ICS and was trying to root after unlocking my bootloader. I found that ROM developer pirateghost has a rooted OTA ICS ROM image you can flash. I was having he|| rooting my Vivid. I flashed his ROM and got what I needed. My Vivid rooted and still on ICS.
You can find it on goo.im here goo.im/devs/pirateghost/vivid
Aus_Azn said:
There are plenty of options out there. Since you now have an updated HBOOT, flash a recovery image and CWM a rooted stock ROM.
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Yeah I have been keeping an eye on WhildChild and he just realeased a new version.. So going to give that a try tonight, hope it goes ok, if not I'll be back lol..
daspazz said:
I was on stock ICS and was trying to root after unlocking my bootloader. I found that ROM developer pirateghost has a rooted OTA ICS ROM image you can flash. I was having he|| rooting my Vivid. I flashed his ROM and got what I needed. My Vivid rooted and still on ICS.
You can find it on goo.im here goo.im/devs/pirateghost/vivid
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Nice! Wish I found that earlier, right now I am probably going to use WhildChilds ROM since he has put so much into it and over clocked the kernel..

[Q] what is s-off

Getting ready to root my phone and flash a Rom in the couple of days...just wanna be sure I know everything before I go for it...this is my second android...my first being the infuse which did not require bootloader to be unlocked or this s off thing....
I'm just curious what s off does for the phone...Im pretty sure the unlocked bootloader just allows the phone to boot unsigned roms and stuff (correct me if I'm wrong) but I've never heard of s off...what is it ...what does it do?
Once I get more comfortable with this phone...I may begin to develop for it...
Thanks for any help with my question...any and all information you may think is useful is also appreciated...anything...I'm brand new to this phone and to HTC/sense
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mg2195 said:
Getting ready to root my phone and flash a Rom in the couple of days...just wanna be sure I know everything before I go for it...this is my second android...my first being the infuse which did not require bootloader to be unlocked or this s off thing....
I'm just curious what s off does for the phone...Im pretty sure the unlocked bootloader just allows the phone to boot unsigned roms and stuff (correct me if I'm wrong) but I've never heard of s off...what is it ...what does it do?
Once I get more comfortable with this phone...I may begin to develop for it...
Thanks for any help with my question...any and all information you may think is useful is also appreciated...anything...I'm brand new to this phone and to HTC/sense
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S-off is security off. It allows you to write to partitions you aren't able to write to with just an unlocked bootloader. This was important for users who didn't get an official ICS update from their carrier. Without an official update, they didn't have an ICS HBoot and couldn't run ICS ROMs. With s-off, you can flash custom/unsigned HBoot so ICS is available for those users. That's s-off's main purpose for this device, but has a bunch of other uses. However, s-off is not necessary unless you want ICS and don't have an official update from your carrier. You can also flash radios, splash screens, boot.img from recovery, etc, etc
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S-off is security off. It allows you to write to partitions you aren't able to write to with just an unlocked bootloader. This was important for users who didn't get an official ICS update from their carrier. Without an official update, they didn't have an ICS HBoot and couldn't run ICS ROMs. With s-off, you can flash custom/unsigned HBoot so ICS is available for those users. That's s-off's main purpose for this device, but has a bunch of other uses. However, s-off is not necessary unless you want ICS and don't have an official update from your carrier. You can also flash radios, splash screens, boot.img from recovery, etc, etc
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Ok, thanks for the info...I was looking at one of the stickies and it said it wasn't needed but didn't say what it did...so I guess ill need it to flash a recovery
Again thanks for the info
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mg2195 said:
Ok, thanks for the info...I was looking at one of the stickies and it said it wasn't needed but didn't say what it did...so I guess ill need it to flash a recovery
Again thanks for the info
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No. To flash a custom recovery all you need is an unlocked bootloader. Recovery is one of the partitions you can fastboot flash without s-off or an eng bootloader
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No. To flash a custom recovery all you need is an unlocked bootloader. Recovery is one of the partitions you can fastboot flash without s-off or an eng bootloader
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Ok then...so if I'm just gonna be flashing roms than s off isn't neccessary? Sorry for all the questions...just wanna do everything right...
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mg2195 said:
Ok then...so if I'm just gonna be flashing roms than s off isn't neccessary? Sorry for all the questions...just wanna do everything right...
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I see you have ATT, which means you have a Vivid, so S-Off is NOT necessary for flashing ROMs. If the Vivid came with ICS, you're all set to unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery, flash boot.img, and flash ROM. If your Vivid currently has GB, you'll want to run an ICS RUU first (relock bootloader first if it is currently unlocked), then unlock, etc
s-off necesary for kernel?
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I see you have ATT, which means you have a Vivid, so S-Off is NOT necessary for flashing ROMs. If the Vivid came with ICS, you're all set to unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery, flash boot.img, and flash ROM. If your Vivid currently has GB, you'll want to run an ICS RUU first (relock bootloader first if it is currently unlocked), then unlock, etc
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i'm on at&t with ics update , rooted unlocked bootloader
i hav a confusion...is s-off necesary for flashing kernel?i want to flash holicakes kernel but i cant find if s-off is necessary for kernel
thanks for any future help
nikhilpshankar said:
i'm on at&t with ics update , rooted unlocked bootloader
i hav a confusion...is s-off necesary for flashing kernel?i want to flash holicakes kernel but i cant find if s-off is necessary for kernel
thanks for any future help
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Not necessary but makes it easier. There are other options: (boot.img is usually found in the rom zip file.)
1. Fastboot boot recovery.img - command from terminal/CMD
2. Fastboot flash boot boot.img - command from terminal/CMD
3. Flashimage GUI (app is in Themes and Apps section)
Any of these options will work.
nikhilpshankar said:
i'm on at&t with ics update , rooted unlocked bootloader
i hav a confusion...is s-off necesary for flashing kernel?i want to flash holicakes kernel but i cant find if s-off is necessary for kernel
thanks for any future help
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DO NOT FLASH HOLICAKES KERNEL... ITS FOR GINGERBREAD
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Wow...back in my noobie HTC days lol haha
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I laughed when I saw this thread pop back up too

[Q]S-OFF

Two simple questions: When do I need S-OFF and when do I know?
I want to test some of the custom roms on xda, and I have unlocked the bootloader, flashed cwm and are rooted.
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You don't need S OFF to use ROMS. So long as you have CWM you can flash any ROM. But you have to flash the Boot.IMG separately as well.
E.g.
- Download your ROM
- Double click on the ZIP and take the Boot.IMG out. Just get a copy of it. Doesn't matter if it's still in the ZIP. You just need a copy of it.
- Flash the ROM
- Go back in Fastboot and flash the Boot.IMG
- To do that put the IMG in your Fastboot folder or any folder than recognises ADB (Fastboot mode)
- Open CMD and navigate to the Fastboot folder in which the boot.img is too
- Type with CMD : Fastboot flash boot boot.img
- It should say complete or OK
- Restart phone and enjoy
S OFF is mainly just for users who can't be bothered to do that. And to find out if you have S OFF you go in Fastboot mode and it will say up top if it is or not (S-ON)
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But why not just get s off and flash roms normally? What's the reason for not get s off?
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VistaX said:
But why not just get s off and flash roms normally? What's the reason for not get s off?
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you don't need S-off unless you want to change your phone's CID or downgrade the HBoot
if you don't know what these things are you don't need it.
You also don't need it to flash a kernel like the 2nd post suggested.
I've flashed about 10 different roms and not had to that with any of them. Just flash the zip in recovery. I'm new to android a few months so maybe things have changed recently?
S-off is if you want change bootloaders, cid, etc. Once you have s-off it's easy to brick your device if you're not careful. It's not needed for flashing roms though.
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Ah, then I'm gonna skip S-OFF. I've flashed many roms with mye SGS3 and LGO2X, but I think maybe HTC is a little more tricky to handle.
VistaX said:
Ah, then I'm gonna skip S-OFF. I've flashed many roms with mye SGS3 and LGO2X, but I think maybe HTC is a little moretricky to handle.
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Yes they are definitely!
So for the "common flasher" it's not necessary to be S-ON?
VistaX said:
So for the "common flasher" it's not necessary to be S-ON?
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If all you plan to do is use custom ROMs then there's no need to be S-OFF. All you'll really need is unlocked bootloader and custom recovery (TWRP or CWM).
S-off allows you to change your phone's firmware regardless of what carrier you have or model ID. So you can get the most recent firmware even if your carrier hasn't pushed out an OTA. That matters to some people but not all.
It also allows you to flash a custom hboot to remove the red text on your splash screen. This is wholly an OCD thing--there's no good reason to do it otherwise.
S-off essentially means you're taking full responsibility for your phone and can't rely on HTC's security checks to prevent bricks.

[Q] Help switching to stock recovery

I Recently Bought an Htc one (M7) {running android 4.3} from an electronics shop well 4.4 Kitkat Just came out so I was all excited to update to check out all the changes... sadly I was mistaken. The previous owner had tried to root the phone so im stuck with a phone that is "Tampered" "Unlocked"
with "s-on" not to bad right? well the recovery on the phone is Team win project recovery... and the phone is not rooted
I want to return the phone to stock or at least beable to get normal ota updates
Can some one give me a detailed step by step walkthrough of how to switch the phones recovery back to stock im not very tech savy in this field
Smerfurdt92 said:
I Recently Bought an Htc one (M7) {running android 4.3} from an electronics shop well 4.4 Kitkat Just came out so I was all excited to update to check out all the changes... sadly I was mistaken. The previous owner had tried to root the phone so im stuck with a phone that is "Tampered" "Unlocked"
with "s-on" not to bad right? well the recovery on the phone is Team win project recovery... and the phone is not rooted
I want to return the phone to stock or at least beable to get normal ota updates
Can some one give me a detailed step by step walkthrough of how to switch the phones recovery back to stock im not very tech savy in this field
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you have to flash a RUU
Boachti said:
you have to flash a RUU
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Its a Tmobile phone is there one for tmobile?
and doesnt that require s-off?
well the ruu I tried wouldnt even run on my Laptop
There are some T-Mobile RUU's. Check the T-Mobile forum. Specifically this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496074
Me personally I would check to see what HBOOT version is on there and if it's lower than 1.57, go S-OFF before doing anything else. Then just use TWRP to flash a stock or stock-ish 4.4 ROM and never mind OTA's.
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NxNW said:
There are some T-Mobile RUU's. Check the T-Mobile forum. Specifically this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496074
Me personally I would check to see what HBOOT version is on there and if it's lower than 1.57, go S-OFF before doing anything else. Then just use TWRP to flash a stock or stock-ish 4.4 ROM and never mind OTA's.
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Thank you guys im looking further into it. Does the phone need to be rooted to flash a rom or just have the bootloader unlocked?
For kit Kat it needs to be s-OFF. Let's get that out of the way first.
And some s-OFF methods require a rooted ROM to work as I recall. So it's already getting complicated.
But a typical custom Rom doesn't *need* root, in fact after flashing you will discover it *gives* you root.
Going that route requires work and some reading. Then again, getting an RUU to run successfully does too.
Basically the situation you''re in is not horrible, but to go all the way forward (S-OFF Kit Kat with ability to do anything you want in the future) or all the way back (totally locked down stock system capable only of accepting OTA's ) will require work either way.
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So basicaly it may be simpler if I...
1 s-off
2 download rom
2.5 put on phone memory
3 go to team win recovery
4 Click install and choose said rom?
is that the basics of it?
if I want the least amount of trouble?
Also I guess what makes this most confusing for me is the non stock recovery
and to use fire water for the s-off I need to remove htc sync from the phone?
I feel im doing more work and stressing than i should be?
Yes Im quite Noobish..
Pretty much yes.
There could be adventures along the way, but I think this outcome would position you well for the future.
The biggest question is how old is your HBOOT.
There is no S-OFF for 1.57 and existing exploits for 1.56 don't always work.
If you can get S-OFF, you can do anything, including a) destroying your phone by mistake; b) changing your mind later and going back to S-ON; and, my personal favorite, c) destroying your phone in the act of trying to go back to S-ON (due to modified/ damaged HBOOT partition).
If you can't get S-ON, well, see if you can get back to stock.
Occasionally you are truly stuck and can neither go forward nor backward.
Which in your case is not so bad. 4.3 works great. Honestly plenty of people here are trying to go *back* to 4.3 after trying 4.4.
With S-OFF you can always do that. S-ON, not so much..
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Yeah.. now i have a pretty blue screen that once every 10 minutes or so will flash the google logo so yup bricked...
That would qualify as an "adventure". Still, it sounds like something less than "bricked".
See if you can enter HBOOT (hold down volume-down and power buttons for a few seconds or if you're in a boot loop , just hold down volume-down as phone is booting up).
If so, you can select fastboot and you should have the option to power down. That should give the battery a rest and give you time to think.
At some point you need to have the android tools fastboot and adb set up on your computer.
When you do, enter HBOOT, select fastboot (with phone plugged into computer via USB) and run the command fastboot getvar all.
Post the results here.
The first post of this thread doesn't really contain enough detail for others to help you otherwise.
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