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Sorry for asking for fast help but I may be buying a (used, good shape) Nexxus One (via craigslist) and have an important question.
I have ATT wireless, the old, old "blue sim" ATT wireless (with a grandfathered plan I will not get rid of). Also added "unlimited mmode data plan in time before they cancelled unlimited plans (*this is not the iphone data plan).
I currently use a Nokia E51 (symbian s60v3, wifi, decent reception, works on 3G (and switches to Edge when 3G isn't avail).
I'm looking at a Nexxus One that is unlocked, currently on Tmobile.
Question is: will this nexus one work 100% (3g and edge) on my ATT account?
and/or - Is there anything I can do to make it work? (I'd like to buy it).
I'm just not sure a unlocked Tmobile nexus one is 100% compatible or will work on ATT (or can be made to work).
it's cost is making it risky so I came here in hopes of advice and help.
I hope this is the right forum section.
Any help here is appreciated and thank you very much
You will not get 3G. Only edge. T-Mobile and AT&T use different bands for 3G.
btw: here is a link to info on my Nokia E51 (GSM arena)
gsmarena.com/nokia_e51-2106.php
Am I correct in saying that nexus one has the same bands (3g/edge) as the E51 and should work well for an updated phone?
thanks
Like I said, it depends which Nexus one. The AT&T one will only give 3G on AT&T, and the TMobile one will only give 3G on Tmobile. You can't change it, no way to hack it. If you want 3G, you need the correct version for your network.
I see, and thanks for the reply. i was thinking there is a hack/workaround but there isn't apparently.
Now, is there a like phone which still would fullfill my ATT needs (blue sim plan, 3g/edge modes, wifi capable, etc that I should be looking at...essentially like the nexus one)?
What about the HTC Desire (or is this the sam scenario)?
* again, i just can't leave this grandfathered plan, and I'm not a big iphone fan (enough to make me switch plans that is).
thanks for any advice
I just received a reply from a user on the ATT forums (very well versed with my blue plan and mmode, GSM phones) who stated this...
The Nexus One would be your best choice if you want to use AT&T Mobility's 2G & 3G network (they use 850 & 1900 MHz for both).
Now in regard to this used, unlocked Tmobile nexus it may be unusable for me...
but based on his reply, he seems to be saying an (att) Nexus one should offer the 2g (edge) and 3g band features (which I need).
Are we sure about the 3g or edge but not both in regard to the nexus one?
* got my eye set on a att nexus one (really, first it was the HTC Desire - very similar, but the band support was the concern there with the Desire)
thanks
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. You are not listening. The Tmobile Nexus One will NOT give you 3G on AT&T.
BUT the AT&T Nexus One WILL give you 3G.
You just need to get the right one. You just need to buy the AT&T compatible Nexus One. Not the Tmobile one.
You need a Nexus One with the AT&T bands. They exist. I have one. A friend of mine is selling his in the CT area.
No, no...i'm listening, but likely not asking the question right.
I understand to get att 3g I need to get the ATT nexus one. Got it.
* And no, I will not be buying this tmobile nexus one thanks to your replies.
What I'm asking is in regard to 2g/edge ability here. Are you saying that a att nexus one will ONLY offer 3G and not offer any 2G/edge capability?
Others are saying it will also offer the 2G/edge capability as well as att's 3G (like with my E51 currently).
* see there are times when att 3G is unavil/spotty and the phone (E51 in my case) switches to 2G/edge. I just wanted to make sure the att nexus one offers this ability.
thanks
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You need a Nexus One with the AT&T bands. They exist. I have one. A friend of mine is selling his in the CT area.
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Can I inquire about this phone for sale somehow?
I was looking at this tmobile nexus one for $350, decent condition.
I'm very interested in buying an att nexus one (provided it's 100% working and condition isnt too bad).
thanks for replying guys!
jojoatt said:
No, no...i'm listening, but likely not asking the question right.
I understand to get att 3g I need to get the ATT nexus one. Got it.
* And no, I will not be buying this tmobile nexus one thanks to your replies.
What I'm asking is in regard to 2g/edge ability here. Are you saying that a att nexus one will ONLY offer 3G and not offer any 2G/edge capapbility?
Others are saying it will also offer the 2G/edge capability as well as att's 3G (like with my E51 currently).
* see there are times when att 3G is unavil/spotty and the phone (E51 in my case) switches to 2G/edge. I just wanted to make sure the att nexus one offers this ability.
thanks
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My Nexus One with AT&T bands works just like every other 3G AT&T phone. It works on both EDGE and 3G. If you look at the bands it has, there's no reason it wouldn't.
You need an AT&T banded N1 to get both 3G and EDGE.
If you get the T-Mobile version, you will ONLY GET EDGE on AT&T.
That's the difference: the 3G bands are different between the two, but the EDGE bands are the same.
jojoatt said:
Can I inquire about this phone for sale somehow?
I was looking at this tmobile nexus one for $350, decent condition.
I'm very interested in buying an att nexus one (provided it's 100% working and condition isnt too bad).
thanks for replying guys!
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You can email him at t4show at gmail dot com
It's only about a month old. He bought an iPhone 4. Yuck.
thank you, i sent him an email. hopefully it's still for sale.
btw: what about the HTC Desire? issues with this on my ATT network?
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire-3077.php
The desire does not have ATT 3g bands, so you will be stuck on edge. Recently they announced a usa desire which might come with proper 3g, but that phone does not yet exist. So no the desire won't work unless you just want edge.
well, your friend selling his att nexus one stopped replying so I have to assume he's either kept it or selling for a bit more on ebay/etc.
I can bid on a few on ebay that will likely end up being $500+ for slightly used, but can anyone tell me if I can still buy the att 3g version ffor $529 straight from google (as in if I order by this friday)?
or I should also ask: does anyone have an att verision nexus one they're selling?
hey guys was just wandering i have an att branded htc vivid ive noticed some of the very few roms the vivid has the awesome devs include apns to compile into your rom my question is im in the states so we have the option to use a pre pay or no contract service like i use my phone on straight talk how come there not much apn support for straight talk ....and is there anything we could possibly do to make data a lil faster in general since its branded att im guessing it hops off att/verizon towers?? and hr8 and mg thanks for the work on cm10 cant wait to use it
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hey guys was just wandering i have an att branded htc vivid ive noticed some of the very few roms the vivid has the awesome devs include apns to compile into your rom my question is im in the states so we have the option to use a pre pay or no contract service like i use my phone on straight talk how come there not much apn support for straight talk ....and is there anything we could possibly do to make data a lil faster in general since its branded att im guessing it hops off att/verizon towers?? and hr8 and mg thanks for the work on cm10 cant wait to use it
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You can add a custom APN at any time. You can even do this on a bone-stock device - no need to root or anything. Just go to Settings-> Mobile Network->Access Point Names and hit the menu button, then New APN. Consult the FAQ or whatever for Straight Talk or whatever carrier you happen to be on, and enter the details as they recommend.
Exactly as ess boyer said
Here's some info on straight talk...straight talk uses ATT towers and I think T-Moble towers too...
However you can only get up to h+ on straight talk.
Essentially straight talk is a reseller. They buy the service from att and resell it to us. As of now they have only purchased up to h+ speeds so you won't be getting LTE speeds anytime soon...
Sent from my HTC Holiday using Tapatalk 2
mg2195 said:
Exactly as ess boyer said
Here's some info on straight talk...straight talk uses ATT towers and I think T-Moble towers too...
However you can only get up to h+ on straight talk.
Essentially straight talk is a reseller. They buy the service from att and resell it to us. As of now they have only purchased up to h+ speeds so you won't be getting LTE speeds anytime soon...
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Thanks mg. I was just looking at Straight Talk and wondering how they kept the price so low. Might be worth a shot once my ATT account runs out; it'll be a year or so before that happens. I mostly use wifi anyway, rarely use data, so that would probably work for me.
I am currently on ATT with the Samsung Galaxy S III and I was thinking about switching to TMobile since they have unlimited data and also because ATT has the locked bootloader. The problem is, I am scared of switching to a new service provider. I tried asking around the office and I can't find ANYONE that has TMobile (At least not in the past year or two).
So my question is for people who currently have TMobile. How is the coverage? The speed? There isn't LTE here for TMobile but there is for ATT but I read that the 3.5g that TMobile has is pretty fast.
Any advice either way?
P.S. Please don't go out of your way bashing the other carriers, I am just asking to help me pick the best network for myself and my HTC One. If you have had both carriers, feel free to comment on both. But if you haven't had ATT, please don't bash it (and vice versa)
Once again, if you have had TMobile in the past year or so, please let me know what you think of it.
Thanks
Rob
AT&T HTC One running on T-Mobile 3G. My town finally got refarmed the phone constantly bounces around EDGE, H, and H+ = Battery Drain
But the speeds are pretty impressive, well compared to EDGE. I can literally walk around the house and have it switch between Data Speeds.
Coverage within the City is constant full bars, but now that they started refarming the area it's spotty 3G. For me though it's worth it. AT&T in my area has better coverage when it comes to the suburban areas, but the prices do not compare T-Mobile wins hands down.
Here are a couple Speed Test shots ..
robamacaf said:
I am currently on ATT with the Samsung Galaxy S III and I was thinking about switching to TMobile since they have unlimited data and also because ATT has the locked bootloader. The problem is, I am scared of switching to a new service provider. I tried asking around the office and I can't find ANYONE that has TMobile (At least not in the past year or two).
So my question is for people who currently have TMobile. How is the coverage? The speed? There isn't LTE here for TMobile but there is for ATT but I read that the 3.5g that TMobile has is pretty fast.
Any advice either way?
P.S. Please don't go out of your way bashing the other carriers, I am just asking to help me pick the best network for myself and my HTC One. If you have had both carriers, feel free to comment on both. But if you haven't had ATT, please don't bash it (and vice versa)
Once again, if you have had TMobile in the past year or so, please let me know what you think of it.
Thanks
Rob
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It all depends on where you live. If you have service nothing is better value than T-Mobile in my opinion.
Well in my opinion I have had t mobile, Verizon and at&t. It all comes down to service I get 20-50 mbps on art lte constantly, T-Mobile can be iffy from time to time if in a rural area and well the price if unlimited plus the price of paying for the phone each month comes close to att. The one thing over the years I have learned is loyalty can go a long way and when your needing that upgrade early it does pay off being with your provider for a while. I hope this helps out and this is just an opinion of mine.
Btw the bootloader is unlockable for att
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Tmobile of you got good coverage in your area.
I am in the same boat, I've had Tmobile in the past and while the customer service is 10x better than AT&T I could never stick with them due to coverage being an issue. However, the area has recently been upgraded and coverage seems to be much better so I think I'm going to switch soon. Not to mention AT&T stopped offering military discount, while Tmo has the best military discount of any carrier.
Yeah, it really depends where you live. Minneapolis area has great coverage. I plan on switching back to them in June (currently on AT&T).
Don't be afraid of T-Mobile...
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So I ended up buying 2 HTC Ones from TMobile, they put a hold on my bank account for 300 dollars and then they cancelled the order. I called them to ask them what was up and they said they are cancelling all HTC One pre-orders that are placed because of an IT issue where the processing system doesn't think any HTC Ones are in stock.
But they are letting the system hit my credit to check if I can get the phone and they are charging my bank account even though they know the system will cancel the order at the end.
That along with the fact I'm not quite sure how good coverage/speed is in Toledo, OH has made my mind up. I'm staying with AT&T.
Thanks everyone for your input
Tachi91 said:
AT&T HTC One running on T-Mobile 3G. My town finally got refarmed the phone constantly bounces around EDGE, H, and H+ = Battery Drain
But the speeds are pretty impressive, well compared to EDGE. I can literally walk around the house and have it switch between Data Speeds.
Coverage within the City is constant full bars, but now that they started refarming the area it's spotty 3G. For me though it's worth it. AT&T in my area has better coverage when it comes to the suburban areas, but the prices do not compare T-Mobile wins hands down.
Here are a couple Speed Test shots ..
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Your just the guy I'm looking for. I'm currently on att with the HTC ONE, but thinking about going to tmobile's prepaid $30 plan. The coverage in Charlotte NC looks good, but I'm not exactly sure because I haven't used it. However, $30 is a great savings. While your out and about, your getting hspa +? But it switches constantly between hspa + and edge?
Hi I am a prospective HTC One buyer (my iPhone 4S is getting wonky + i'm tired of the slow 3G speeds). I'm thinking of buying the One because I want to be on the 4G LTE network since it's the same price for my monthly bill but I don't know how good or bad 4G LTE is in NYC? I've seen some threads here but they are from a year ago or more so I would like to hear some real life experiences with LTE in NYC for sprint? I'm confused because in the news it's officially launched but when I go to the sprint stores, they say NYC doesn't have LTE??
I'm also thinking of getting the HTC One because of the free 23 Gbs for Dropbox - I know it's carrier specific (Verizon & Sprint). My question is, do you have to stick with the stock rom in order to keep using the 23 Gbs or what? I'm guessing it won't matter but I don't know if they can authenticate it somehow if you switch from Sprint's official rom to something custom.
Lastly I'm very confused about the bootloader situation - I remember hearing about HTC wanted to lock their bootloader or something to that effect. I just want to know if the HTC One can still be rooted and get the free tethering feature (with LTE support or just 3G? When I had an EVO, the tethering only worked for 3G, not WiMax) as well flash custom roms? Thank you!
I'm getting bored of my iPhone (which is crashing on me a lot) and even though I still have a year left on my contract, I am thinking about just buying the phone outright from sprint for the full price because I want LTE and that big ass screen lol.
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Hi I am a prospective HTC One buyer (my iPhone 4S is getting wonky + i'm tired of the slow 3G speeds). I'm thinking of buying the One because I want to be on the 4G LTE network since it's the same price for my monthly bill but I don't know how good or bad 4G LTE is in NYC? I've seen some threads here but they are from a year ago or more so I would like to hear some real life experiences with LTE in NYC for sprint? I'm confused because in the news it's officially launched but when I go to the sprint stores, they say NYC doesn't have LTE??
I'm also thinking of getting the HTC One because of the free 23 Gbs for Dropbox - I know it's carrier specific (Verizon & Sprint). My question is, do you have to stick with the stock rom in order to keep using the 23 Gbs or what? I'm guessing it won't matter but I don't know if they can authenticate it somehow if you switch from Sprint's official rom to something custom.
Lastly I'm very confused about the bootloader situation - I remember hearing about HTC wanted to lock their bootloader or something to that effect. I just want to know if the HTC One can still be rooted and get the free tethering feature (with LTE support or just 3G? When I had an EVO, the tethering only worked for 3G, not WiMax) as well flash custom roms? Thank you!
I'm getting bored of my iPhone (which is crashing on me a lot) and even though I still have a year left on my contract, I am thinking about just buying the phone outright from sprint for the full price because I want LTE and that big ass screen lol.
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I think Sensorly is available for iPhones-- if you download it, you'll be able to get a pretty reasonable coverage map of your area that's not from corporate (which is important because it may also show you areas where Sprint hasn't officially announced LTE, but still has it operational). And yes, you can can keep the extra space no matter what ROM you're on-- once Dropbox confirms you're valid for the promotion, that stuff remains server-side (otherwise, anyone owning multiple devices would be in for a huge headache).
Almost all HTC phones have their bootloaders locked, but Sprint's variant is unlockable as per usual by following instructions at HTCDev. When you do so though, HTC will log your device as being unlocked (since you need the unlock key from HTC to do so) and it may become a sticking point if you need to ever use manufacturer warranty.
4G tethering works as far as I know.
Rirere said:
I think Sensorly is available for iPhones-- if you download it, you'll be able to get a pretty reasonable coverage map of your area that's not from corporate (which is important because it may also show you areas where Sprint hasn't officially announced LTE, but still has it operational). And yes, you can can keep the extra space no matter what ROM you're on-- once Dropbox confirms you're valid for the promotion, that stuff remains server-side (otherwise, anyone owning multiple devices would be in for a huge headache).
Almost all HTC phones have their bootloaders locked, but Sprint's variant is unlockable as per usual by following instructions at HTCDev. When you do so though, HTC will log your device as being unlocked (since you need the unlock key from HTC to do so) and it may become a sticking point if you need to ever use manufacturer warranty.
4G tethering works as far as I know.
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Thanks for the sensorly. According to the website, it says there is 4G in NYC! However, on the iOS app nothing shows up. I don't see any coverage of any kind (i.e. not for 3G, 4G etc).
Okay gotcha so it's still possible to root the HTC One but you just need a key from HTC and be ready to give up the warranty. Okay that sounds good! Anyone have any experience with their HTC One in NYC? I'm just curious how New Yorkers' experience with the One and 4G has been. I'm from Brooklyn btw but I go to Manhattan all the time.
limache said:
Hi I am a prospective HTC One buyer (my iPhone 4S is getting wonky + i'm tired of the slow 3G speeds). I'm thinking of buying the One because I want to be on the 4G LTE network since it's the same price for my monthly bill but I don't know how good or bad 4G LTE is in NYC? I've seen some threads here but they are from a year ago or more so I would like to hear some real life experiences with LTE in NYC for sprint? I'm confused because in the news it's officially launched but when I go to the sprint stores, they say NYC doesn't have LTE??
I'm also thinking of getting the HTC One because of the free 23 Gbs for Dropbox - I know it's carrier specific (Verizon & Sprint). My question is, do you have to stick with the stock rom in order to keep using the 23 Gbs or what? I'm guessing it won't matter but I don't know if they can authenticate it somehow if you switch from Sprint's official rom to something custom.
Lastly I'm very confused about the bootloader situation - I remember hearing about HTC wanted to lock their bootloader or something to that effect. I just want to know if the HTC One can still be rooted and get the free tethering feature (with LTE support or just 3G? When I had an EVO, the tethering only worked for 3G, not WiMax) as well flash custom roms? Thank you!
I'm getting bored of my iPhone (which is crashing on me a lot) and even though I still have a year left on my contract, I am thinking about just buying the phone outright from sprint for the full price because I want LTE and that big ass screen lol.
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My LTE speeds in NYC vary anywhere from 31mbs to 3 Mbs depending on location
limache said:
Thanks for the sensorly. According to the website, it says there is 4G in NYC! However, on the iOS app nothing shows up. I don't see any coverage of any kind (i.e. not for 3G, 4G etc).
Okay gotcha so it's still possible to root the HTC One but you just need a key from HTC and be ready to give up the warranty. Okay that sounds good! Anyone have any experience with their HTC One in NYC? I'm just curious how New Yorkers' experience with the One and 4G has been. I'm from Brooklyn btw but I go to Manhattan all the time.
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Errr really? Try uninstalling/reinstalling it? And are you sure you're looking at coverage maps for Sprint? I can see something up top near NYC.
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My LTE sppeds in NYC vary aware from 31mbs to 3 Mbs depending on location
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I second this I only get respectable 4G in Queens, and some parts of Brooklyn (around 20 down at like 11 pm) it's very spotty in manhattan.
I am literally loosing sleep over the z1 ready to buy it but just weary of the fact that it wont support lte in my area.. what can I do?
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I am literally loosing sleep over the z1 ready to buy it but just weary of the fact that it wont support lte in my area.. what can I do?
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Are in in the USA?
If you're not under contract, I'd just get a Straightalk t-mobile sim. What Straightalk does is " rent" other carriers networks, includung both AT&T and T-mobile. Straightalk doesn't support LTE. With T-mobile' awesome HSPA+42 speeds and great coverage, you won't miss LTE, plus it's only $45 bucks a month. HSPA+42 is really close to LTE but with better coverage. One of the joys of having an unlocked phone is freedom to choose a cheap carrier.
The reason T-mobile doesn't suck as much as it used to is because of the failed merger of AT&T and T-mobile. It gave them extra money to upgrade their network and more bands.
It seems there is a model that supports AT&T LTE, the C6906, but don't count me on it. Refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2438443&page=2
If you end up getting a z1 model c6903 which doesn't have LTE on AT&T, and must have AT&T, I'd again recommend a straightalk AT&T sim so you are not paying for LTE which the c6903 can't use. On AT&T HSPA+21 is the fastest you'll get.
If you're close to the end of your contract, I'd just get a C6903 and switch when you finish out the contract.
you will get hspa+ but no lte
That is on AT&T.. On T-Mobile, you can get LTE!
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I am literally loosing sleep over the z1 ready to buy it but just weary of the fact that it wont support lte in my area.. what can I do?
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Maybe if you searched before making new thread you would have seen that there are at least 3 threads on this topic, which have all answered you question.
I think the question is, has anyone actually seen a C6906 variant?
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I think the question is, has anyone actually seen a C6906 variant?
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yeah, im just wondering if this even exists. if not then ill go ahead and purchase my z1, because I just prefer the design and quality over any at&t phone and although lte is a big deal, hey im an android guy ill get over it in 2 months when a new phone comes out and I sell it. LOL and as for the galaxy active.......HIDEOUS HIDEOUS HIDEOUS! ill take a z1 with no internet at all over a gs active ....why samsung.... WHY! you make beautiful tvs but why the ugly phones!!!!!