SO, I'm on my XT1055 (UsCellular Moto X)
I'm running the stock ROM, rooted, with TWRP.
I keep getting the (very annoying) OTA notification, and I WOULD like to update to 4.4.2 as there are some features that I would like.
It's annoying because it's not just a normal notification, It takes over the whole screen, and happens whenever I regain internet access.
The only thing I really use root for is RootExplorer and Xposed/GravityBox.
My question/problem is this; Can I update without losing root? And how?
I'm sorry, no disrespect intended....
But please, read number one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
This topic has been covered 100's of times in multiple threads.
We really don't need more how do I take ota threads.
Good luck.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
Please search before posting. As mentioned there are many threads and some stickies covering this
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Background information:
Bought the AT&T version when it came out right away
Got root the first time it was released
Updated root when next update came out ( Didn't know if I need to )
OTA has been Frozen since I got the phone
Is it safe for me? Should I go back to the first version and then update?
Trust me I've read the posts and since I know there have been some issues on the Verizon side I wasn't sure if that was something that was effecting AT&T too. If some one could please give me an explain of that to it would be extremely helpful as I like to know my **** so I can help others.
Thanks
Icon000 said:
Background information:
Bought the AT&T version when it came out right away
Got root the first time it was released
Updated root when next update came out ( Didn't know if I need to )
OTA has been Frozen since I got the phone
Is it safe for me? Should I go back to the first version and then update?
Trust me I've read the posts and since I know there have been some issues on the Verizon side I wasn't sure if that was something that was effecting AT&T too. If some one could please give me an explain of that to it would be extremely helpful as I like to know my **** so I can help others.
Thanks
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Flash back to stock via RSDLite. Let it boot up. Get your gmail setup.
When the prompt comes up, DL the .54 update. Install.
Root with jcase's new root method.
Or you could just install safestrap. Install a ROM with the camera update and not worry about it until kitkat comes around.
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
I'm not really interested in updating to another Rom unless it has the touchless controls or something really interesting. Touchless Controls is one of the main reasons I got this phone next to battery life.
Is Safestrap finally settled down? I feel like last time I check there were still messages about bugs and other issues?
matt99017d said:
Flash back to stock via RSDLite. Let it boot up. Get your gmail setup.
When the prompt comes up, DL the .54 update. Install.
Root with jcase's new root method.
Or you could just install safestrap. Install a ROM with the camera update and not worry about it until kitkat comes around.
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
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Icon000 said:
I'm not really interested in updating to another Rom unless it has the touchless controls or something really interesting. Touchless Controls is one of the main reasons I got this phone next to battery life.
Is Safestrap finally settled down? I feel like last time I check there were still messages about bugs and other issues?
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the only rom out for SS that i am aware of is just a ported tmobile rom for vzw phones that has the update built in. Basically it is just the OTA stock rom running on SS. This is what I am using currently. Not sure if it flashable for ATT phones, but I'm sure there is some workaround there. Or maybe the OP on that thread can make a ATT one if you asked him. SS is stable as of now. Haven't had any new updates to it because no one is having any problems currently (at least with moto x devices).
For your question pertaining to options for taking the OTA. There are 4 methods now.
1. SS method described above
2. use the thread called something like "keep root through the OTA." It basically takes the ota without updating the BL so you can still downgrade to your stock original FW that you are on now. It's the same thing as the SS method because SS also does not udpate the BL, but you won't be using SS for this method obviously.
3. you can flash recovery.img (and system.img if you need to) or just RSD, then install pwnmymoto without running it, then take the ota and pwnmymoto will root the phone automatically after the ota is taken. you won't be able to downgrade your FW anymore with this method.
4. you can just take the ota (also must flash or use rsd to take it obviously) and then use jcase's rockmymoto root exploit. This uses adb commands and telnet stuff. Not too difficult but if you are unfamiliar with all of that then it will take at least some reading. There is also a thread out there for windows users that simplifies it pretty well.
For future Kit kat root. it is still up in the air what will happen with that. I chose to use SS because it was easy. quick. and allows me to make nandroids. I also like knowing that I can still flash to original stock FW in case that might be necessarry for getting root on kit kat. This seems less likely now that jcase created a root method for the OTA that is out, but I'm still just playing it safe personally, even if it might be pointless now.
I'm on a Republic Wireless Moto X, which is still on 4.2.2. I can't remember the thread for the root method I originally used, it might have been pwnmymoto, but I'm rooted presently and use it for programs like Root Explorer, BetterBatteryStats, and AdAway.
A few days ago I had a WiFi connection bug (which I did eventually manage to fix) but I tried to use a factory reset to resolve it, only to find that after hitting "yes I'm sure, erase everything", the phone just rebooted and everything was the same as it had been. All of the recovery options cause it to boot up normally too. So, how would I reset the phone now?
read. no one has responded because you clearly haven't read a thing.
Thanks, that's very helpful.
I've read the stickies in this section and there's nothing regarding my question in them, nor is there anything in the jcase's thread about pwnmymoto. I may not be using the correct search terms (and I searched before posting, thanks), so could you point me in the right direction rather than taunt me for my ignorance?
Eckyx said:
Thanks, that's very helpful.
I've read the stickies in this section and there's nothing regarding my question in them, nor is there anything in the jcase's thread about pwnmymoto. I may not be using the correct search terms (and I searched before posting, thanks), so could you point me in the right direction rather than taunt me for my ignorance?
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http://bit.ly/1csj6pJ
fifth link down titled "can't factory reset moto x"
This is my first Android phone i have owned for a few years now and i made the mistake of doing the OTA update to 4.3. I would love to root this phone because that was a big reason why i got it. I hated waiting for a jailbreak for my iPhone and i want a phone that i have control over. is it possible to "downgrade" from the OTA update to the leaked update? or even downgrade back to 4.2.2? I have looked around but cant find anything to helpful for the galaxy s4 active. also reading around multiple people say they end up having issues after downgrading or the KNOX counter going from 0x0 to 0x1, therefore voiding warranty.
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This is my first Android phone i have owned for a few years now and i made the mistake of doing the OTA update to 4.3. I would love to root this phone because that was a big reason why i got it. I hated waiting for a jailbreak for my iPhone and i want a phone that i have control over. is it possible to "downgrade" from the OTA update to the leaked update? or even downgrade back to 4.2.2? I have looked around but cant find anything to helpful for the galaxy s4 active. also reading around multiple people say they end up having issues after downgrading or the KNOX counter going from 0x0 to 0x1, therefore voiding warranty.
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While the OTA upgraded Android to 4.3 it also included a new bootloader. The new bootloader prohibits "downgrading" to a firmware version below ML2. Currently there is no way to downgrade with the locked bootloader. However there is a new thread just started by @TransformixS4 that is looking at injecting root into the ML2 Odin files, so it may be possible in the future to root ML2. There are a couple threads in the regular S4 forums exploring ways to exploit the bootloader and flash custom kernels.
Back to your situation: you're completely stuck. Next time you see there is an update or OTA check XDA before you install it. There are a couple threads that explain the pros and cons of any updates. There is also a thread summarizing all the AT&T i537 firmwares which will be updated in the future and you may find useful.
Devo7v said:
While the OTA upgraded Android to 4.3 it also included a new bootloader. The new bootloader prohibits "downgrading" to a firmware version below ML2. Currently there is no way to downgrade with the locked bootloader. However there is a new thread just started by @TransformixS4 that is looking at injecting root into the ML2 Odin files, so it may be possible in the future to root ML2. There are a couple threads in the regular S4 forums exploring ways to exploit the bootloader and flash custom kernels.
Back to your situation: you're completely stuck. Next time you see there is an update or OTA check XDA before you install it. There are a couple threads that explain the pros and cons of any updates. There is also a thread summarizing all the AT&T i537 firmwares which will be updated in the future and you may find useful.
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My issue was I kept telling it not to upgrade, and then it went ahead and did it anyway! On 4G, not wifi even. I was so mad when I got home and started reading that all the stuff I downloaded to root it *that day* would no longer work.
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My issue was I kept telling it not to upgrade, and then it went ahead and did it anyway! On 4G, not wifi even. I was so mad when I got home and started reading that all the stuff I downloaded to root it *that day* would no longer work.
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You're only allowed to delay the update 4 or 5 times before it installed automatically. You can prevent it from upgrading in the future by freezing some system apps with Titanium Backup. I don't remember which ones right now, but if you search it's pretty easy to find.
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My issue was I kept telling it not to upgrade, and then it went ahead and did it anyway! On 4G, not wifi even. I was so mad when I got home and started reading that all the stuff I downloaded to root it *that day* would no longer work.
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Just checking, you do have the i537 not i9295, right?
*I'm getting this out of the way first.* I know this may be a very stupid question to some of you, but I've looked on multiple threads and posts about this topic and have gotten mixed results and answers, so I thought this would be the best site to get a definitive answer.
I just got my Nexus 6 through AT&T today and wanted to root it to get rid of the very annoying AT&T splash screen you get when you turn the phone on. I know how to root and unlock the bootloader, but when I do that will I still be able to get OTA updates from Google without any fancy flashing or things like that? I'm sticking with stock Android and I'm not installing any custom ROMs. I know on a lot of other phones you can get OTA updates when rooted, but you have to install them manually. If it's too much of a hassle I just won't root it.
Thanks in advance,
Robert (Mokedoke)
It's better explained in other threads. But no, you can't take OTA. If you unlock only I believe you'll be fine. But as soon as you modify system files it won't work for OTA. Lollipop checks for these changes and the install will fail out.
You won't be able to get the OTA, but you can manually flash your phone to get the latest ROM and with out loosing data. Search the forum there directions to show you how.
Wondering if I should update downloaded ota then root or will the update screw things up like locking my boot loader and installing things I don't want or that will make customizing more difficult or impossible? Have had real bad luck with Verizon ota's in the past when it comes to rooting, unlocking, jailbreaking etc... And from what I've been reading on other threads this and other nexus ota updates have been really buggy especially with WiFi and BT. Mine works perfect right now and all I really want is to root it and remove the update file and turn off the update app. Thanks in advance for any advice.
paulsmcin said:
Wondering if I should update downloaded ota then root or will the update screw things up like locking my boot loader and installing things I don't want or that will make customizing more difficult or impossible? Have had real bad luck with Verizon ota's in the past when it comes to rooting, unlocking, jailbreaking etc... And from what I've been reading on other threads this and other nexus ota updates have been really buggy especially with WiFi and BT. Mine works perfect right now and all I really want is to root it and remove the update file and turn off the update app. Thanks in advance for any advice.
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If you want root, first thing you should do is unlock the bootloader. Second thing you should do is read all the threads regarding root in the SuperSU subforum. Third thing is you want marshmallow because battery life, in my experience, is far better.
I haven't experienced any buggy WiFi or BT with either of my N6s. Just because you had bad luck in the past doesn't mean you'll have the same experience with this phone. The only bad luck you'll encounter would come from your own inexperience.
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Wondering if I should update downloaded ota then root or will the update screw things up like locking my boot loader and installing things I don't want or that will make customizing more difficult or impossible? Have had real bad luck with Verizon ota's in the past when it comes to rooting, unlocking, jailbreaking etc... And from what I've been reading on other threads this and other nexus ota updates have been really buggy especially with WiFi and BT. Mine works perfect right now and all I really want is to root it and remove the update file and turn off the update app. Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Its a Nexus. Even Verizon ota's won't lock it. Update it, unlock the boot loader before or after. Flash back, flash forward, flash sideways. It is all up to you. The entire os/image is downloadable from Google, it is a fully ipen phone.
There are no widespread problems with Marshmallow. It is great. You get that impression because only the people with problems post.
So I would stop reading threads about problems and just read the threads about flashing and customizing.
Take the ota's up to the current version.
Unlock the bootloader.
Flash TWRP.
Flash systemless root version 2.65 from chainfire.
That will get you started.
Thanks for the advice all, did the updates, unlocked the boot loader & rooted. Easiest phone ever to mod !