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What is stopping the devs?

On the dev edition Moto X? I mean the phone is fully unlocked, isnt it? There are hardly any roms available..

Well if you bought a developer edition wouldn't you cook your own rom?
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The Moto X is probably the first phone where a custom rom takes many desired features away, so why bother?

gunnyman said:
The Moto X is probably the first phone where a custom rom takes many desired features away, so why bother?
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Agreed. Similar to the G2, other than a few tweaks here and there, building a ROM defeats a lot of the stock features. Which in my opinion like the X, are very useful.
Now, if we were taking touchwiz, ROMS are needed to get rid of a lot of the crap!!!

jmill75 said:
Agreed. Similar to the G2, other than a few tweaks here and there, building a ROM defeats a lot of the stock features. Which in my opinion like the X, are very useful.
Now, if we were taking touchwiz, ROMS are needed to get rid of a lot of the crap!!!
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G2? That has a lot of LG crap similar to touchwiz. You definitely need a aosp ROM for G2. For Moto X sure, it's stock android plus useful features not like the useless LG and Samsung gimmicks.
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gunnyman said:
The Moto X is probably the first phone where a custom rom takes many desired features away, so why bother?
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People could add the features on top of the current features.
For instance, it'd be nice to be able to modify quick setting tiles, center clock, etc. Xposed will hopefully give us those options though.
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kirdroid said:
G2? That has a lot of LG crap similar to touchwiz. You definitely need a aosp ROM for G2. For Moto X sure, it's stock android plus useful features not like the useless LG and Samsung gimmicks.
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The S4 has a lot of useless gimmicky features. LG implements just enough useful features to not make it over the top like touchwiz. I definitely prefer the Moto X over those two but I just needed to stand up for the G2 which was a great device. The G2 was plenty fast and it didn't need AOSP.

phositadc said:
People could add the features on top of the current features.
For instance, it'd be nice to be able to modify quick setting tiles, center clock, etc. Xposed will hopefully give us those options though.
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If you use GravityBox you can tweak tiles, clock, battery and much more.

bootloaders locked on ATT and Verizon probably don't help. I wonder what % of X's were sold through them.
I'll also agree with the fact that we'd give up some features with standard ROMS like AOSP, slimbean, PA, etc.

Island_King said:
If you use GravityBox you can tweak tiles, clock, battery and much more.
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Is this working on 4.4 yet?

Dburgessme2 said:
Is this working on 4.4 yet?
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Article in the Portal said Xposed is now working on 4.4, with most Apps
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Dburgessme2 said:
Is this working on 4.4 yet?
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The change log said that GB was experimental on 4.4 but I just tried to use it and it wouldn't load. My bad.
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qbanlinxx said:
Article in the Portal said Xposed is now working on 4.4, with most Apps
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The Xposed framework does work on 4.4 however many of the popular modules such as GravityBox and MotoXposed are currently not working/supported. It's also worth mentioning that Xposed Framework does not work with ART.

Island_King said:
The Xposed framework does work on 4.4 however many of the popular modules GravityBox and MotoXposed are currently not working/supported. It's also worth mentioning that Xposed Framework does not work with ART.
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And take out all the fun of reading the article for everyone, Never!!
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SupaSwag said:
The S4 has a lot of useless gimmicky features. LG implements just enough useful features to not make it over the top like touchwiz. I definitely prefer the Moto X over those two but I just needed to stand up for the G2 which was a great device. The G2 was plenty fast and it didn't need AOSP.
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We shouldn't be standing up for any OEMs who crap android and make it harder to update
Why did the moto X get updated so fast? It's essentially stock android with value added features on top of it. G2 is fast? Sure it's running the latest awesome soc but over time without updates it'll be left out to die a painful death.

[Q] Omni ROM comimg anytime to the Moto X?

Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone with the right Dev skills and some free time could work on bringing Omni ROM to the Moto X... I know we don't have much interest in these custom ROMs cuz we would be loosing the brilliant features we paid for... But you gotta say OMNI has some pretty cool features like split window etc as well.... So what say?!?

Gundabolu SC said:
Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone with the right Dev skills and some free time could work on bringing Omni ROM to the Moto X... I know we don't have much interest in these custom ROMs cuz we would be loosing the brilliant features we paid for... But you gotta say OMNI has some pretty cool features like split window etc as well.... So what say?!?
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I second this so much. I love the stock rom, but I would love multiwindow.

trevorftard said:
I second this so much. I love the stock rom, but I would love multiwindow.
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Third'ed

If you want Split Window you should lookup the ROM that's forbidden from XDA. But I agree anyways.
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Gus194 said:
If you want Split Window you should use the BAM ROM. But I agree anyways.
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Shhhhhhh.....that's the rom that shall not be spoken aloud here.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

kj2112 said:
Shhhhhhh.....that's the rom that shall not be spoken aloud here.
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Oops sorry forgot...
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Everything is ready to go dhacker29 has the device tree on git, so all you need to is build it, ain't going to be me cause I end up staying up all night did it, done that, no more for me.
Is it better than this https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z123s5mqyta3g3ave225x3rwylewsnw0k
You can't mention him in xda as he's banned but I was fortunate enough to have an htc evo 3d when crap hit the fan, death threats, bodily harm. Moderators were all over the evo threads unlike here, good times. I think faux knows of him as he accused faux of kanging his kernel
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

I'm glad I have zero desire to flash roms anymore.....thanks to xposed. LOL
My X is stock with xposed and so is my N7....as well as my daughters tab 3.
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kj2112 said:
I'm glad I have zero desire to flash roms anymore.....thanks to xposed. LOL
My X is stock with xposed and so is my N7....as well as my daughters tab 3.
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I'll never stay stock, I like flashing a modding my system safely, my son has a tab 3 and I keep telling him I'll root it, I have 3 phones that are all rooted running custom plus my lenoto tablet with my own paranoid rom
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

flashallthetime said:
I'll never stay stock, I like flashing a modding my system safely, my son has a tab 3 and I keep telling him I'll root it, I have 3 phones that are all rooted running custom plus my lenoto tablet with my own paranoid rom
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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I'll flash on the x when I'm over active notificaton and touchless...or updates stop...whichever comes first.
I flashed hundreds of roms on my S2 and N7 tho.
My daughter uses the tab 3 7" only....so I was going to leave it alone ...but it lagged horrifically out of the box. LOL. Its still stock, but rooted and debloated now and it is zippy now. Its no N7, but close.
Just don't have the patients for anything not 100 percent stable and fully functioning anymore. And the X is terribly sweet on stock with xposed. One day I'll tinker tho.
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It is a pain not to have everything working butbthats part if the fun for me is to find a fix for it, just me. My sons tab is laggy as hell to, touchwiz :sly::sly::sly::sly::sly:
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flashallthetime said:
It is a pain not to have everything working butbthats part if the fun for me is to find a fix for it, just me. My sons tab is laggy as hell to, touchwiz :sly::sly::sly::sly::sly:
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All I did to the tab 3 was factory reset, flash twrp and root. It was already WAY quicker....then I froze every single Samsung thing and some Google stuff. And greenified everything...especially all her games. Oh...and ad blocked. No more dating site ads on her kids games. Rediculous. LOL
I was almost ready to return it...my old Captivate was quicker than the tab 3 out of the box. Hate Samsung! LOL. Only bought it for her cause of price...and SD card for movies. Otherwise she'd have an N7 too.
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Captivate My only Samsung product, easy breezy unlocking with Odin, still works but 3g only:sly:
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flashallthetime said:
Captivate My only Samsung product, easy breezy unlocking with Odin, still works but 3g only:sly:
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Odin is an amazing tool I must say. LOL
In general...for the captivate and S2 anyway....you could flash this, that and the other thing with no brick worries....as long as you did it right. Screwed up? Odin stock back on. Any version.
Can't speak for S3 and S4...tho tab 3 seems just as easy.
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But touchwiz.....just awful! LOL. Except some nice custom ones.
But...never again. No more skinned ui phones for me.
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There's also LiquidSmooth and BeanStalk but I don't think they have Split Window of whatever its called.
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We have a beanstalk ROM , gummy ROM is almost perfect, built in active display, lock screen display .
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flashallthetime said:
We have a beanstalk ROM , gummy ROM is almost perfect, built in active display, lock screen display .
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Yea I'm currently happy with Gummy, but I like Stock more, it feels more smooth to me. Lol
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If someone gets the notification light working as a notification light full time....I'll be all over that rom.
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flashallthetime said:
I'll never stay stock, I like flashing a modding my system safely, my son has a tab 3 and I keep telling him I'll root it, I have 3 phones that are all rooted running custom plus my lenoto tablet with my own paranoid rom
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Its cool how these generations have super cool dads who wanna help them with rooting!
Its an irony as to how i had to teach my dad to use his phone!

Hey Guys! Just thought you guys should know that the new LiquidSmooth release for all the Ghost Variants has Multi Window! Plus it has OmniSwitch. It's pretty awesome. You can download it here: http://drdevs.com/devs/teamliquid/Nightly/Moto%20X%20Unified/

[Q] Why flash a CM/AOSP ect (non stock rom) on Moto X?

So this may sound like a silly question, but I don't understand why anyone would buy a Moto X is they are going to flash a ROM that isn't blur based. Don't you lose all the functionality that makes Moto X great? Like the performance benifits of the Motorola X8, the active display, the touchless controlls... even the performance on the Moto X is well above what the tech specs would lead you to believe.
I used to be a flashaholic with previous phones but the only flash I did on the Moto X was a pre rooted stock based rom and I haven't felt the need to go AOSP. I broke my screen and Moto gave me a new one that I just got today ... contemplating what to do with my flashing situation to my new one since I have a fresh start.

Blackdrag said:
So this may sound like a silly question, but I don't understand why anyone would buy a Moto X is they are going to flash a ROM that isn't blur based. Don't you lose all the functionality that makes Moto X great? Like the performance benifits of the Motorola X8, the active display, the touchless controlls... even the performance on the Moto X is well above what the tech specs would lead you to believe.
I used to be a flashaholic with previous phones but the only flash I did on the Moto X was a pre rooted stock based rom and I haven't felt the need to go AOSP. I broke my screen and Moto gave me a new one that I just got today ... contemplating what to do with my flashing situation to my new one since I have a fresh start.
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I agree I tried PAC ROM and it lasted about an hour and I went back to stock. I missed active notifications and touchless control. I mean the ROM was great very smooth just missed what made my maxx a maxx. However there are people that may not use active notification and touchless control so a ROM is fine for them. I will never put another ROM on my phone I love it stock with xposed and gravity box. To me its the best of both worlds. And gravity box is updated every week or two with new features so it never gets stale. To each their own that is what i love about android there is something for everyone unlike apple which is take what we give you.

bigv5150 said:
I agree I tried PAC ROM and it lasted about an hour and I went back to stock. I missed active notifications and touchless control. I mean the ROM was great very smooth just missed what made my maxx a maxx. However there are people that may not use active notification and touchless control so a ROM is fine for them. I will never put another ROM on my phone I love it stock with xposed and gravity box. To me its the best of both worlds. And gravity box is updated every week or two with new features so it never gets stale. To each their own that is what o love about android there is something for everyone unlike apple which is take what we give you.
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Haha yah I know what you mean. Thanks for the reply! I was wondering if I was missing something like the features could be installed into CM or something but I guess I'm staying Blur On previous moto phones I always flashed CM or something similar I hated blur ... but the Google owned Moto X Blur is really AOSP with some nice features on top taking advantage of the X8.
EDIT: Also I was reading about Gravitybox as you replied to this I do think I'm gonna install that.

Gravity box will give you all or most the features of the custom roms and let you keep the Moto x features.
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Because some people believe that "pure" AOSP (even though custom roms aren't pure AOSP) is the be-all-end-all of Android.

Yea, i used to be a flasholic too whit my previous nexus 4, but I don't know why I just feel great whit the stock ROM of the moto X.
Active display its really great and extremely useful, maybe I will never want to have led notifications again. I want active nots forever In every future phone from now.
By the way, I think we don't need to flash Roms because we have almost native android, and if we use gravity box the result its better that cm or aosp.
THE ONLY TWO THINGS that I really miss are: Halo (PA) and MIUI for the weekends.
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[Q] Is Eclipse the only custom rom to support touchless controls? Any blur kernels?

I just unlocked my Verizon Moto X this week thanks to the Chinese site, and noticed after doing so that the only Rom I can find that is blur based is Eclipse, which at the moment doesn't support a lot of xposed add ons. I also don't see any kernels for blur. Am I blind or missing something? I have no regrets about unlocking the bootloader as I was now able to upgrade to 4.4.2 without issue, but I thought there would be a little more choices in this regard.
My reason for asking is because all the non blur roms, as far as I can tell, do not support touchless controls, assit or native motorola active display. Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I use these features a lot (touchless controls by far the most of the 3) and wanted to be able to continue using those on a custom rom, as well as tinker with custom kernels.

Welcome to Moto x. Not a huge development circle.
I think eclipse and kangakat are the only 2 stock based roms.
Faux kernel is for stock based only. And its the only custom kernel.
That's it....if you want to keep the Moto features.
Aosp roms don't have the Moto features.
Moto isn't a flashaholics phone...not at all.
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kj2112 said:
Welcome to Moto x. Not a huge development circle.
I think eclipse and kangakat are the only 2 stock based roms.
Faux kernel is for stock based only. And its the only custom kernel.
That's it....if you want to keep the Moto features.
Aosp roms don't have the Moto features.
Moto isn't a flashaholics phone...not at all.
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That's what I figured, although for the price the bootloader unlock was worth to be able to get 4.4.2 with everything accesible as well as future proof updates.

Eclipse room is quite nice. I have not yet seen an xposed module that is incompatible. You do have to get x control and it replaces some gravitybox features, but both still work.
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[Q] Moto X customization

Hello Moto X part of XDA.
While I have a low post count, I'm a big lurker in XDA and not completely new to all this... well. I am new to this phone.
I just received my moto X second hand, and I have a couple questions. I have read The complete Moto X guide and Im still not clear in a couple things
My device is already bootloader unlocked, but not rooted yet. I have android 4.4.3, I thought of rooting so and flashing a new ROM.
So here are my questions:
1. I can see the list of features of the ROMs, but I do wonder if they keep the original moto X functionalities (the active display, the dedicated cores/activities)? Or is it not mentioned because is common knowledge that by using a custom ROM all those things are gone?
2. Can I somehow edit the navigation bar? I come from samsung phones (yeah... I know) and I got used to having the buttons from left to right as "menu", "home", "back". I know this can be done in some ROMs (i had my moto G that way) but I was wondering if there's any way of doing it in the stock firmware?
3. Does the write protection on the root folders only apply to Bootloader locked devices? Since mine is unlocked, once rooted, I wont have a problem to write the root folders?
Sorry for the noobish questions, but I find surprising how different the moto G is to the moto X regarding the developnment.

DBThanatos said:
Hello Moto X part of XDA.
While I have a low post count, I'm a big lurker in XDA and not completely new to all this... well. I am new to this phone.
I just received my moto X second hand, and I have a couple questions. I have read The complete Moto X guide and Im still not clear in a couple things
My device is already bootloader unlocked, but not rooted yet. I have android 4.4.3, I thought of rooting so and flashing a new ROM.
So here are my questions:
1. I can see the list of features of the ROMs, but I do wonder if they keep the original moto X functionalities (the active display, the dedicated cores/activities)? Or is it not mentioned because is common knowledge that by using a custom ROM all those things are gone?
2. Can I somehow edit the navigation bar? I come from samsung phones (yeah... I know) and I got used to having the buttons from left to right as "menu", "home", "back". I know this can be done in some ROMs (i had my moto G that way) but I was wondering if there's any way of doing it in the stock firmware?
3. Does the write protection on the root folders only apply to Bootloader locked devices? Since mine is unlocked, once rooted, I wont have a problem to write the root folders?
Sorry for the noobish questions, but I find surprising how different the moto G is to the moto X regarding the developnment.
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1. Some ROMs based on other devices might not have Active Display. Some ROMs do. Check out the Moto X Android Development subforum and read the threads there. I also know that some ROMs use a AOSP active display replacement.
2. Most ROMs allow you to edit the navigation bar but you can also do this with Xposed.
3. Yes.
Let us know if you have any more questions ^_^

dier325 said:
1. Some ROMs based on other devices might not have Active Display. Some ROMs do. Check out the Moto X Android Development subforum and read the threads there. I also know that some ROMs use a AOSP active display replacement.
2. Most ROMs allow you to edit the navigation bar but you can also do this with Xposed.
3. Yes.
Let us know if you have any more questions ^_^
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Thanks a lot for the quick response. I think I'll stay with the stock firmware for now, while I get used to the phone, but I will root it and try with xposed. The main reasons I want another rom was precisely because of the navbar and tweaking the looks of the thing, but if xposed will allow me that, i see no reason to have a whole new ROM just for that.
Once again, thanks a lot for the quick response!

DBThanatos said:
Thanks a lot for the quick response. I think I'll stay with the stock firmware for now, while I get used to the phone, but I will root it and try with xposed. The main reasons I want another rom was precisely because of the navbar and tweaking the looks of the thing, but if xposed will allow me that, i see no reason to have a whole new ROM just for that.
Once again, thanks a lot for the quick response!
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You should be able to just install a custom recovery and flash SuperSU and then install Xposed. Not as simple for us locked devices
Happy rooting!
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Then you should install CyanogenMod and Gravitybox. You will have the best stock rom with constant nightly updates and the ability to do all the customization (Gravitybox) you need.
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MikeNaples said:
Then you should install CyanogenMod and Gravitybox. You will have the best stock rom with constant nightly updates and the ability to do all the customization (Gravitybox) you need.
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Huh? CyanogenMod isn't stock....OR stock-based.
This means no Active Display or Touchless Controls.
Additionally, there are still some known bugs.
And finally, although nightlies will continue, this project is no longer being maintained for the Moto X because dhacker quit the project.

I disagree!
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MikeNaples said:
I disagree!
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You may disagree... Its your right.
But the post above yours is 100% accurate. ?

MikeNaples said:
I disagree!
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To which part? Anyone who knows anything knows that CM is not stock based! Its based on source code from github as stated in the OP of that ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/rom-cyanogenmod-11-moto-x-t2719646
Confirmation that AD and Touchless Controls don't work are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53977187&postcount=248 and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52543363&postcount=67
Confirmation that dhacker is no longer maintaining the project can be located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54462994&postcount=303 or here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54417178&postcount=294 or here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54417194&postcount=295 (you can also check his TWITTER account)
One still-known bug (listed as recently as July 17th) can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54221828&postcount=276
So I'll ask again: what do you disagree with?!?!
I'm not badmouthing CM or it's (now non-existent) maintainers...I LIKE CyanogenMod. But everything I said would appear to be 100% correct. Especially about CM not being stock based (this is beyond obvious)....

Talking about customization on the X here is a example of Active Display. I wish moto will implement this later on though I think it might impact a Lil on battery life. Well for now I'll just test it. http://youtu.be/qk4-RpC8mUM
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sorullo_xgrx said:
Talking about customization on the X here is a example of Active Display. I wish moto will implement this later on though I think it might impact a Lil on battery life. Well for now I'll just test it. http://youtu.be/qk4-RpC8mUM
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I don't get it???

KJ said:
I don't get it???
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That was pretty cool. I would like a nice COLORFUL active display. I just doubt that was running off the low-voltage-core. There wasn't any relevant info in the description of that video...

samwathegreat said:
That was pretty cool. I would like a nice COLORFUL active display. I just doubt that was running off the low-voltage-core. There wasn't any relevant info in the description of that video...
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Well I wanted for the clock to be able to choose different colors within the app. Maybe a xpose module.. But like I said it might impact in battery life though I'm not completely sure.. Maybe I'll just use darker colors ..
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