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Kit Kat

Seeing Google owns Motorola what do you think the wait time would be for Kit Kat? Seeing the X has yet to see 4.3 I have a sinking feeling it might be awhile.

There are phones that have been out a lot longer that don't have 4.3... And 4.3 is in the testing stages... Be patient it has only been 2 months... They're still doing bug fixes... And with 4.4 right around the corner they may or may not just move to that.
Motorola doesn't get special privileges for android. They get access when everyone else does.
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Shade21 said:
There are phones that have been out a lot longer that don't have 4.3... And 4.3 is in the testing stages... Be patient it has only been 2 months... They're still doing bug fixes... And with 4.4 right around the corner they may or may not just move to that.
Motorola doesn't get special privileges for android. They get access when everyone else does.
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Being that its very close to stock Android, however, should make the upgrades a little more seamless. Theres not much to change except the specific Android functions, which might be there anyways like the touchless stuff.

icase81 said:
Being that its very close to stock Android, however, should make the upgrades a little more seamless. Theres not much to change except the specific Android functions, which might be there anyways like the touchless stuff.
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Don't forget the software optimizations Moto did for this device to last waaaaaaay longer then a Nexus 4 can.

hulfordpaul said:
Seeing Google owns Motorola what do you think the wait time would be for Kit Kat? Seeing the X has yet to see 4.3 I have a sinking feeling it might be awhile.
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Being that we still don't have 4.3 I think it will be 2-3 months before we see kit Kat, at an absolute minimum.
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phositadc said:
Being that we still don't have 4.3 I think it will be 2-3 months before we see kit Kat, at an absolute minimum.
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Don't forget carriers holding it back *cough* verizon *cough*
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I'm with everyone else on this. Could be a while, especially if you're on VZW. Hoping the developer community kicks into high gear here pretty soon and we start seeing 4.3 ROM's well before it is an official OTA. Same for Kit Kat.

My question is: is there really a need for the update? Granted, I do want wish to install some apps that only work only with 4.3. But they are not that necessary.
With the leaks about 4.4, printing and payment option, seriously, do you really need those things?

freeintruth said:
My question is: is there really a need for the update? Granted, I do want wish to install some apps that only work only with 4.3. But they are not that necessary.
With the leaks about 4.4, printing and payment option, seriously, do you really need those things?
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Ok...you can stay on 4.2.2 while everyone else updates...what's the point of having a smart phone if you don't want it to be updated?
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stastnysnipes26 said:
Ok...you can stay on 4.2.2 while everyone else updates...what's the point of having a smart phone if you don't want it to be updated?
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hahahaha, that's my way to calm myself down. Of course I wanna update...but they do not do what I want for so long so I have learned to be content

freeintruth said:
hahahaha, that's my way to calm myself down. Of course I wanna update...but they do not do what I want for so long so I have learned to be content
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Don't forget a lot of the updates are also under the hood optimizations that make the phone run better. Also there are some UI changes. I personally like what I saw from the leaked images today. I'm sick of the cyan blue throughout. I will like the white status bar icons much more. Good for you for being content lol. Personally I want 4.4 now even though having the vzw moto x I will probably never see it as an official ota
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stastnysnipes26 said:
Don't forget a lot of the updates are also under the hood optimizations that make the phone run better. Also there are some UI changes. I personally like what I saw from the leaked images today. I'm sick of the cyan blue throughout. I will like the white status bar icons much more. Good for you for being content lol. Personally I want 4.4 now even though having the vzw moto x I will probably never see it as an official ota
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roms are always jank unless they are nexus roms. and even then there seems to be a fight nowadays for the current binaries. for me... i want to update. i want it now. but as long as my phone is running smooth as silk.... i can wait. back in the gingerbread days... things were a bit different.

At least 4.4 will apparently already come with a transparent nav bar; There's one to scratch off the to-do list for Motorola

finalarcadia said:
At least 4.4 will apparently already come with a transparent nav bar; There's one to scratch off the to-do list for Motorola
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Motorola... Google... Is there still a difference?
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Moto x on VZW-with kitkat that would take at least 5 months from when kitkat is on a nexus
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I've learned my lesson with non nexus phones lol. Don't expect any timely updates. I'm just gonna pick up a Nexus 5 to mess with the newest software and development. Even if development finally picks up with this phone the only good Roms (at least for me) will be the Roms based off stock and that means I'll have to wait until an official 4.4. So to curb my need for rooting and flashing I'll just use a nexus lol.
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bhundven said:
Motorola... Google... Is there still a difference?
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Maybe the fact that they are still two different companies?
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joshnichols189 said:
Maybe the fact that they are still two different companies?
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Growing pains? I'm sure things will get better with time.
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They are pushing more and more system stuff into the Play Store, and the Moto X is about as well optimized for that as can be, so at least we have that. As much as I love the AOSP I'd be happy if Googlrola pushed everything but the kernel into play services, at least for their phones.
This phone is breaking my crackflashing habit, which is probably good for me, my career, and my family.
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I have a feeling that once developers start writing more roms for the Moto X, we'll get in a nice groove in terms of latest versions of Android. Whether or not it's stock-based, PA, CM, or OmniRom remains to be seen though

What is stopping the devs?

On the dev edition Moto X? I mean the phone is fully unlocked, isnt it? There are hardly any roms available..

Well if you bought a developer edition wouldn't you cook your own rom?
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The Moto X is probably the first phone where a custom rom takes many desired features away, so why bother?

gunnyman said:
The Moto X is probably the first phone where a custom rom takes many desired features away, so why bother?
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Agreed. Similar to the G2, other than a few tweaks here and there, building a ROM defeats a lot of the stock features. Which in my opinion like the X, are very useful.
Now, if we were taking touchwiz, ROMS are needed to get rid of a lot of the crap!!!

jmill75 said:
Agreed. Similar to the G2, other than a few tweaks here and there, building a ROM defeats a lot of the stock features. Which in my opinion like the X, are very useful.
Now, if we were taking touchwiz, ROMS are needed to get rid of a lot of the crap!!!
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G2? That has a lot of LG crap similar to touchwiz. You definitely need a aosp ROM for G2. For Moto X sure, it's stock android plus useful features not like the useless LG and Samsung gimmicks.
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gunnyman said:
The Moto X is probably the first phone where a custom rom takes many desired features away, so why bother?
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People could add the features on top of the current features.
For instance, it'd be nice to be able to modify quick setting tiles, center clock, etc. Xposed will hopefully give us those options though.
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kirdroid said:
G2? That has a lot of LG crap similar to touchwiz. You definitely need a aosp ROM for G2. For Moto X sure, it's stock android plus useful features not like the useless LG and Samsung gimmicks.
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The S4 has a lot of useless gimmicky features. LG implements just enough useful features to not make it over the top like touchwiz. I definitely prefer the Moto X over those two but I just needed to stand up for the G2 which was a great device. The G2 was plenty fast and it didn't need AOSP.

phositadc said:
People could add the features on top of the current features.
For instance, it'd be nice to be able to modify quick setting tiles, center clock, etc. Xposed will hopefully give us those options though.
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If you use GravityBox you can tweak tiles, clock, battery and much more.

bootloaders locked on ATT and Verizon probably don't help. I wonder what % of X's were sold through them.
I'll also agree with the fact that we'd give up some features with standard ROMS like AOSP, slimbean, PA, etc.

Island_King said:
If you use GravityBox you can tweak tiles, clock, battery and much more.
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Is this working on 4.4 yet?

Dburgessme2 said:
Is this working on 4.4 yet?
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Article in the Portal said Xposed is now working on 4.4, with most Apps
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Dburgessme2 said:
Is this working on 4.4 yet?
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The change log said that GB was experimental on 4.4 but I just tried to use it and it wouldn't load. My bad.
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Article in the Portal said Xposed is now working on 4.4, with most Apps
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The Xposed framework does work on 4.4 however many of the popular modules such as GravityBox and MotoXposed are currently not working/supported. It's also worth mentioning that Xposed Framework does not work with ART.

Island_King said:
The Xposed framework does work on 4.4 however many of the popular modules GravityBox and MotoXposed are currently not working/supported. It's also worth mentioning that Xposed Framework does not work with ART.
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And take out all the fun of reading the article for everyone, Never!!
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SupaSwag said:
The S4 has a lot of useless gimmicky features. LG implements just enough useful features to not make it over the top like touchwiz. I definitely prefer the Moto X over those two but I just needed to stand up for the G2 which was a great device. The G2 was plenty fast and it didn't need AOSP.
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We shouldn't be standing up for any OEMs who crap android and make it harder to update
Why did the moto X get updated so fast? It's essentially stock android with value added features on top of it. G2 is fast? Sure it's running the latest awesome soc but over time without updates it'll be left out to die a painful death.

[Q] Why flash a CM/AOSP ect (non stock rom) on Moto X?

So this may sound like a silly question, but I don't understand why anyone would buy a Moto X is they are going to flash a ROM that isn't blur based. Don't you lose all the functionality that makes Moto X great? Like the performance benifits of the Motorola X8, the active display, the touchless controlls... even the performance on the Moto X is well above what the tech specs would lead you to believe.
I used to be a flashaholic with previous phones but the only flash I did on the Moto X was a pre rooted stock based rom and I haven't felt the need to go AOSP. I broke my screen and Moto gave me a new one that I just got today ... contemplating what to do with my flashing situation to my new one since I have a fresh start.

Blackdrag said:
So this may sound like a silly question, but I don't understand why anyone would buy a Moto X is they are going to flash a ROM that isn't blur based. Don't you lose all the functionality that makes Moto X great? Like the performance benifits of the Motorola X8, the active display, the touchless controlls... even the performance on the Moto X is well above what the tech specs would lead you to believe.
I used to be a flashaholic with previous phones but the only flash I did on the Moto X was a pre rooted stock based rom and I haven't felt the need to go AOSP. I broke my screen and Moto gave me a new one that I just got today ... contemplating what to do with my flashing situation to my new one since I have a fresh start.
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I agree I tried PAC ROM and it lasted about an hour and I went back to stock. I missed active notifications and touchless control. I mean the ROM was great very smooth just missed what made my maxx a maxx. However there are people that may not use active notification and touchless control so a ROM is fine for them. I will never put another ROM on my phone I love it stock with xposed and gravity box. To me its the best of both worlds. And gravity box is updated every week or two with new features so it never gets stale. To each their own that is what i love about android there is something for everyone unlike apple which is take what we give you.

bigv5150 said:
I agree I tried PAC ROM and it lasted about an hour and I went back to stock. I missed active notifications and touchless control. I mean the ROM was great very smooth just missed what made my maxx a maxx. However there are people that may not use active notification and touchless control so a ROM is fine for them. I will never put another ROM on my phone I love it stock with xposed and gravity box. To me its the best of both worlds. And gravity box is updated every week or two with new features so it never gets stale. To each their own that is what o love about android there is something for everyone unlike apple which is take what we give you.
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Haha yah I know what you mean. Thanks for the reply! I was wondering if I was missing something like the features could be installed into CM or something but I guess I'm staying Blur On previous moto phones I always flashed CM or something similar I hated blur ... but the Google owned Moto X Blur is really AOSP with some nice features on top taking advantage of the X8.
EDIT: Also I was reading about Gravitybox as you replied to this I do think I'm gonna install that.

Gravity box will give you all or most the features of the custom roms and let you keep the Moto x features.
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Because some people believe that "pure" AOSP (even though custom roms aren't pure AOSP) is the be-all-end-all of Android.

Yea, i used to be a flasholic too whit my previous nexus 4, but I don't know why I just feel great whit the stock ROM of the moto X.
Active display its really great and extremely useful, maybe I will never want to have led notifications again. I want active nots forever In every future phone from now.
By the way, I think we don't need to flash Roms because we have almost native android, and if we use gravity box the result its better that cm or aosp.
THE ONLY TWO THINGS that I really miss are: Halo (PA) and MIUI for the weekends.
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Custom Roms for moto x?

For the many people who have successfully unlocked their device or are planning to, what custom Roms are available or could be available to us? Is the only current custom ROM cm11?
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Try looking here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development
And here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development
And definitely look here: http://www.google.com

Remember that with a custom ROM you lose touch less control moto assist and notifications. For me that is a deal breaker I think that is why there is not a huge amount of people looking for ROMs. Most of what makes a rom great is the customization which we can do with exposed.

I really wished there would be more Stock Based Custom ROMs, but there's only two, Eclipse and KangKat, which are great, but I want more choices. lol. I'm thinking about making my own ROM..

I think the same...
Customs dont worth it if you loose intelligent notifications and touchless control.
Anyway, I miss miui
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Ah while I do enjoy active display, I wouldn't mind replacing it with acdisplay. Also don't use touchless control or any of the other moto apps.
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
Try looking here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development
And here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development
And definitely look here: http://www.google.com
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This. ^^
There isn't much to sift through.
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I'm on a custom ROM and haven't lost any of the stock features that makes this such an awesome phone...
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One20One said:
I'm on a custom ROM and haven't lost any of the stock features that makes this such an awesome phone...
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which rom /carrier are you on?

I'm on Eclipse ROM, Verizon. I'm also using Xposed framework with gravity box, Moto tether, and XYZToolbox. Touchless works just fine.
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Ohhh, I'm also using X Control, for Eclipse. I pick what I want from each add on, to get it just right.
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The moto x style?

Hi,
I'm just wondering if when the moto x style gets the software available, do you think we might get a ported ROM or at least ported apps?

malctron said:
Hi,
I'm just wondering if when the moto x style gets the software available, do you think we might get a ported ROM or at least ported apps?
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There's a few threads about this. Here's just one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3116578

Ahh thanks for the reply. That'll teach me to look first.

I wonder if the devs would have a better chance with the moto x style just because it'll be easier to obtain here in the states versus the moto x pro. I mean I'd stay with my nexus6 if I could get the moto enhancements. I just have my doubts. If it hasn't been done already, I'm starting to doubt it ever gets done.
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biggiestuff said:
I wonder if the devs would have a better chance with the moto x style just because it'll be easier to obtain here in the states versus the moto x pro. I mean I'd stay with my nexus6 if I could get the moto enhancements. I just have my doubts. If it hasn't been done already, I'm starting to doubt it ever gets done.
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Why would you think it would be easier to port from the Style than from a Moto X 2nd gen?

akellar said:
Why would you think it would be easier to port from the Style than from a Moto X 2nd gen?
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That's just desperate thinking from a man who really wants those features on my nexus6. [emoji12]
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