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i just noticed that my 1 month old nexus one has the notification bar burnt in. go to landscape view in the browser, load a white background like google.com, and sure enough i can see very faintly the notification bar.
i've always kept the display on auto brightness. i'm very curious to hear if anyone else checks their screen if they have the same issue. the phone is only 1 month old, maybe 2 at the tops, so its very strange for this to happen. anyone else?
Had mine since end of March. No burn-in or any type of ghosting. I have my screen time-out set to 30 seconds. I wonder if that's got anything to do with it.
that's weird. my time out has always been at the default of 2 minutes. surely that isn't too much different though. 1.5 minutes shouldn't make or break it.
RogerPodacter said:
that's weird. my time out has always been at the default of 2 minutes. surely that isn't too much different though. 1.5 minutes shouldn't make or break it.
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how bad is it? Is it possible to show us a picture?
its not too bad, but definitely there. the concern is how new this phone is. what happens after 6 months?
I'll try to take a pic later, but don't have a good camera on me.
RogerPodacter said:
its not too bad, but definitely there. the concern is how new this phone is. what happens after 6 months?
I'll try to take a pic later, but don't have a good camera on me.
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Definately, you should give htc a call and tell them whats up. No rush on a picture.
AMOLED displays are worse for burn in than old CRT's, so br interesting to see how these fair
Got mine in late Jan and no sign of it.
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that's weird. my time out has always been at the default of 2 minutes. surely that isn't too much different though. 1.5 minutes shouldn't make or break it.
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Can't say either way if 1.5 minutes more of screen-on time can create the burn-in. But compared to the standard 30-sec time-out on most phones (some have 15 sec), 2 minutes is pretty long. You may want to set it to a shorter time-out duration.
you REALLY have to look close to see it. I tried it on black screen and you can't see it all. except in landscape the notification bar switches so at the very left inside the bar you can see the small faded line of the portrait bar.
i don't care enough to call HTC for any type of exchange or repair. I've heard the horror stories of their service too!
I have slight burn in on mine too. It's expected and I doubt the screen time out has anything to do with it. Keep in mind that any use of the phone the notification bar usually stays in the same place. Sometimes I have maps nav going on and that alone keeps the display on for the length of a car trip.
Also you guys can test by getting Dead Pixel Detect from the market and cycling through a few different colors.
well I'm not gonna get all worked up about it. sucks it happened so soon, hopefully it doesn't get worse. I'll try that dead pixel app just to see.
I'll take a pic shortly, but I don't know if it will actually be visible from a photo.
thats bad if its true....still a new phone with this problem already? wow..mine is less than a week old ...I will keep an eye out for it though, and if anyone has a solution that would be nice...
Drawing white on AMOLED requires much more than drawing black.
One more reason for using Desire (or a black notification bar theme)
I have two Nexus One's. The first was the Tmobile version which I used on ATT EDGE. That device has the purple tint issue and also has some burn in(uneven wear)where the notification bar is. Unfortunately I ran it with the brightness at 100%, 24-7. Now, it is very slight, but it is there.
I also have the 3G ATT version and it has no purple tint and has no burn in(uneven wear) yet and I've used it more now that I did the EDGE version. BUT, I never run this one with 100% brightness unless I have to.
Also, it is better to run at very low brightness for the first say hundred hours because there is a sharper dropoff in brightness half life during that time, making burn in(uneven wear)detectable with the human eye more likely to occur.
At the end of the day, for my situation, I blame myself for running at 100% brightness. I should have known better. LCD, with as long as they have been around, have innovated to the point of having very long half lives making burn in possible, but very rare. I was operating the way I always had with mobile devices. BUT, with these new screens, new care must be taken until AMOLED matures with higher brightness half life.
100% brightness I understand, but auto setting and this still happened in a month?
that pixel detector app definitely shows the burn in. I can see the icons too for 3g, signal meter, M from the pm time stamp, etc.
I guess there's no way to fix other than replace the screen? cause I'll change my notification bar to black if I had known this could happen.
I wonder what I should do...repair, HTC warranty, live with it, etc
I have the same problem. t-mobile nexus one. Happened about 2 months after I first got it. HTC replaced it. And it happened again on the new one. I keep it on 100% brightness pretty much all the time except at night. Doesn't bother me much though. I hardly use my phone in landscape and it's only on white backgrounds.
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100% brightness I understand, but auto setting and this still happened in a month?
that pixel detector app definitely shows the burn in. I can see the icons too for 3g, signal meter, M from the pm time stamp, etc.
I guess there's no way to fix other than replace the screen? cause I'll change my notification bar to black if I had known this could happen.
I wonder what I should do...repair, HTC warranty, live with it, etc
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If you get a new one just remember that even with a black notification bar, you're at risk. You will also need to run dark or black backgrounds to stay even with the black bar. Otherwise you will end up with a very bright bar and the rest of the screen will look yellowish/grey compared to it. It's always about making sure all the pixels are as evenly worn as possible. Another thing you can do is switch to a black notification bar now and run bright backgrounds and you can reverse some damage. It will never be perfect but you can get the wear more even again thus making the issue even less noticeable than it already is.
I agree about auto setting should have prevented this. At least you would think, but I'm no expert.
Several more things that can be done to help prevent this issue: if browsers or apps you use have the option to turn off the notification bar, use it. The more you can keep that notification bar off the screen, the more evenly you can wear the screen. Also, set your screen timeout to a shorter level. I used to use two minutes but now I use 30 seconds. The time that the screen is on and the bar is on the screen add up and can eventually contribute to uneven wear, and it's just wasted time waiting for the screen to timeout.
i'm seeing some faint burn in too
I don't feel so bad since I'm not the only one.
even with a black notification bar you would prob need white letters which would still burn in the white letters.
why the hell did I read this thread... lol mine is slight but I have some and I didn't notice it before because the only time I'm in landscape is in navigation most of the time.
Hi,
I have my sgs about 2 months and I'm very happy with it. The only problem I have is, that sometimes there are strange displayinterferences.
It looks like there are moving waves from top to down.
Does anybody have this troubles too and has a solution for it?
Or is it an hardware error? The problem is that the error isn't reproducable.
Maybe somebody can help me, please!
Thanks in advance
spyro
I think I have also noticed that once or twice. I believe it can be seen when you have the android drop down menu (notifications etc) open and you start or stop WiFi. It must be some kind of interferance with wifi hardware. Normal wifi operation does not cause it, only the startup of the WiFI which lasts one second or so.
Yeah, i think this could be true. I also see it often, when I open die Notification bar. But I also have the same interferences, when I am working in apps. Maybe also the 3G connection could be the reason? Does anybody else have this problem.
Is this a problem, which I have to life with or could this be an error of the hardware(warranty)?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753402
I have the same problem. Never on wifi tho.
Which firmware are you using?
Hi,
my firmware is I9000AUJF1(A1 branded from Austria). I don't know if the problem in your posted thread is the same. The interferences I mean only exist one or two seconds. There are horizontal dark lines which moves from top to the bottom. After some time everything is OK again. It looks like anything interfers the display(wifi, 3g?).
The problem of warranty is, that I'm not able to show the problem, because it's not reproducable.
Screen flickering under WiFi data transfer
I noticed this problem a couple of days ago.
Whenever there is some data transfer going on over WiFi, wherever I am browsing or some service syncs up the screen starts flickering and I have what I can describe as faint scan lines crossing the screen vertically like there is some sort of interference.
These are mostly noticeable on white and light grey backgrounds.
I have gone trough 2 firmware updates currently being on stock JPK rooted.
I have searched around on google and found on some forum one guy that was saying the cause is an interference between the WiFi module and the screen refresh rate.
Has anybody encountered this problem or these symptoms ?
Is there somebody around more knowledgeable in this issues that can confirm that this is a hardware problem ?
wow! , you might have a defective phone then.
I use WiFi very often, Wireless N at aprox 87 Mbps
that should be high enough to reproduce the problem you experienced, if i had a faulty screen
the description of the scan line reminds me of interference when you are in close proximity with another LCD or CRT screen causing the distortion field
OMG, I get this too. Usually happens on boot or when I'm browsing a data heavy website or using Android market. Are our phone defective? Does anyone else have this problem? I wonder how common it is.
does the scan line comes from bottom up
or goes from top to bottom?
very slowly or fast?
if you are pluged in and charging, also are you in a 120v or 240v?
AllGamer said:
does the scan line comes from bottom up
or goes from top to bottom?
very slowly or fast?
if you are pluged in and charging, also are you in a 120v or 240v?
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They tend to be random and I'm on battery power atm. Also they're quite fast but don't last very long. They'll start then stop then start etc ..
Hi,
just for your information. I've sent my phone to samsung on friday. Maybe they find the error. I report, if there are new information.
Yep i have the same problem. Can t find the source though....
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The lines appear from top and travel the screen fast.
Imagine a TV who for a second has problem with reception.
I am on 240 V.
Also the issue is much more noticeable when not plugged in.
If I have the phone plugged in its barely noticeable.
I will try to call the service and ask about this issue. I have a strong feeling that this is a hardware issue. But Besides the screen being defective I also think about the battery. Maybe when in high load (WiFi) it's voltage varies and affects the screen.
It seems if I uncheck Power saving mode in Settings>Display and also uncheck Automatic brightness things improve a bit.
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The lines appear from top and travel the screen fast.
Imagine a TV who for a second has problem with reception.
I am on 240 V.
Also the issue is much more noticeable when not plugged in.
If I have the phone plugged in its barely noticeable.
I will try to call the service and ask about this issue. I have a strong feeling that this is a hardware issue. But Besides the screen being defective I also think about the battery. Maybe when in high load (WiFi) it's voltage varies and affects the screen.
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Another issue to worry about .. God starting to think about selling this phone and getting something else. Stuck in a 2 year contract though
some one already reported this on another topic
it does seems that some version of the phone are prone to WiFi interferance
we still haven't found out what causes it exactly
for example i can not replicate the issue on my phone when using WiFi
found it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793944
Cant reproduce it.
Not that I'm unhappy with it...
If this is a hardware issue Samsung should replace my phone. I am waiting though a little bit before calling the service to make sure that it is a hardware problem.
If I find that it can easily be fixed with a software fix, it's not worth the hassle of trying to replace it.
can anyone in North America confirm this issue?
i got a huntch it might be an Europe only issue related to the high voltage of the electric interferance nearby, like lights, tv, radio, wifi, etc.
I think a lot of us have had our phone for about a month now, and this is my second OLED phone so I know how to treat it with more care in comparison to my old Moto Z Force. (look in the attachments ( :silly: ) [Ignore the cracks, they're on the glass screen protector, not the phone itself]
But, so far I haven't gotten any screen burn I on my Note 9 (I use an app called White to check it). I use about 50-60% brightness throughout the day and sometimes a little more during gaming and watching videos, an SOT of 30 secs, AOD is activated, so far so good.
What about everyone else?
Hey there .
You shouldn't check for screen burn in with this blue image
Try this dark green picture I will upload (use full screen brightness)
Or this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oledtools
I've noticed some strange pattern on my phone not sure if screen burn in or faulty oled panel
I'll have an eye on it
None here had since release but then again I run full immersive mode so that always helps
One month old note 9 it's a shame
And I have no clue why
None of my apps have such an layout
Screen off time is 15 seconds and after I had screen burn in on my s8 I was really careful on my note
But I have to admit I am really not sure if this is really screen burn in or maybe structure stuff of the phone or the panel
I opened every app and I have no app that have this layout or anywhere close to it
wer wo was said:
One month old note 9 it's a shame
And I have no clue why
None of my apps have such an layout
Screen off time is 15 seconds and after I had screen burn in on my s8 I was really careful on my note
But I have to admit I am really not sure if this is really screen burn in or maybe structure stuff of the phone or the panel
I opened every app and I have no app that have this layout or anywhere close to it
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Yeah that burn-in looks insanely weird, assuming if it even is burn in. I tried OLED tools and didn't notice any burn in on my panel there either thankfully, however I did try your dark green image on my phone and even at 100% brightness the picture looks black.
EDIT: Okay you're supposed to look at this in COMPLETE darkness, and I do see the green on my phone now, and from the looks of things I still don't see anything in particular burned into my panel. Though, is the picture supposed to be darker at the bottom than it is at the top?
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Yeah that burn-in looks insanely weird, assuming if it even is burn in. I tried OLED tools and didn't notice any burn in on my panel there either thankfully, however I did try your dark green image on my phone and even at 100% brightness the picture looks black.
EDIT: Okay you're supposed to look at this in COMPLETE darkness, and I do see the green on my phone now, and from the looks of things I still don't see anything in particular burned into my panel. Though, is the picture supposed to be darker at the bottom than it is at the top?
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Yeah I am also not sure might be the panel maybe structure thing (really checked every app for a similar pattern but there is none and I've seen burn in before I know what's causing it)
Sorry should have told you have to look at it in complete darkness
And nope the image should be everywhere the same green
Should be a slight green so the green pixels are just turned on a little bit
You should check the app I posted in the first post it's very useful to check for burn in or any other stuff maybe you can also post results j am really curious
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Yeah I am also not sure might be the panel maybe structure thing (really checked every app for a similar pattern but there is none and I've seen burn in before I know what's causing it)
Sorry should have told you have to look at it in complete darkness
And nope the image should be everywhere the same green
Should be a slight green so the green pixels are just turned on a little bit
You should check the app I posted in the first post it's very useful to check for burn in or any other stuff maybe you can also post results j am really curious
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Well, oddly enough the green image is a "bright" green at the top of my phone and gradually fades to black toward the bottom, but this isn't anything I can see in any other program I use. I used OLED tools but it seems to just be an app to swap through colors? I can do that using White
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Well, oddly enough the green image is a "bright" green at the top of my phone and gradually fades to black toward the bottom, but this isn't anything I can see in any other program I use. I used OLED tools but it seems to just be an app to swap through colors? I can do that using White
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Yeah for me this pattern thing is also not visible (ATM I wish I never looked for this thread )only if you really "want" to see it
No no oled tools offers you different stuff in the main menu the first one it the one to test the panel
In this mode you can swipe to change the "brightness" of the color/pixels
And single tap shows a button to change color
Edit: so for me only the green pixels have this weird pattern blue and red are fine
My note 8 has some burn in ghosting from watching YouTube in non landscape mode. It's not horrible but its there for sure. Going to try to be a little more careful this time around. Also you tube didnt uave a dark mode until recently either. Not sure if dark mode will help
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My note 8 has some burn in ghosting from watching YouTube in non landscape mode. It's not horrible but its there for sure. Going to try to be a little more careful this time around. Also you tube didnt uave a dark mode until recently either. Not sure if dark mode will help
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What kind of burn in you gout from YouTube ? Like where the video is or the down below ?
Cause I thought about that a few times and my s8 kind of stated that
Using black theme or so gives you kind of reverse screen burn in
So the part that is black wont burn in for sure but the other pixels that are on those are aging faster then those that are off because of black
So you will see that after a time
Call me crazy here but that's what my s8 had
I had black navbar and at the end the navbar was like reversed burned in because those pixels were not that often used then the other ones
That's what ive noticed
Ify theory is wrong correct me
wer wo was said:
One month old note 9 it's a shame
And I have no clue why
None of my apps have such an layout
Screen off time is 15 seconds and after I had screen burn in on my s8 I was really careful on my note
But I have to admit I am really not sure if this is really screen burn in or maybe structure stuff of the phone or the panel
I opened every app and I have no app that have this layout or anywhere close to it
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I have this very same weird pattern visible on dark screens on my Note 9. Must be the panel or something else behind the screen. Thought I was the only one, but apparently not... Not sure what's going on.
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I would really like to know what's causing this. My phone is also only a month old. This device is too expensive to have this kind of issue with the screen this early. What's weird is that I noticed it several days ago but then apparently it went away, but came back today.
I'm stumped.
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If this is affecting several users and their devices, then Samsung has a defective screen on their hands and needs to be made aware it! Please guys, let me know your findings and/or solutions to this. I can't see it at all on white or brightly colored screens. Only on certain dark ones.
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I have this very same weird pattern visible on dark screens on my Note 9. Must be the panel or something else behind the screen. Thought I was the only one, but apparently not... Not sure what's going on.
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I would really like to know what's causing this. My phone is also only a month old. This device is too expensive to have this kind of issue with the screen this early. What's weird is that I noticed it several days ago but then apparently it went away, but came back today.
I'm stumped.
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If this is affecting several users and their devices, then Samsung has a defective screen on their hands and needs to be made aware it! Please guys, let me know your findings and/or solutions to this. I can't see it at all on white or brightly colored screens. Only on certain dark ones.
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So confirmed I am not the only one
Could you also post pictures of your screen like I did ? Would be interesting
These windows is where is most noticeable. Also has a very faint line under the top video box
I experienced burn-in on my Note 8 and S7 edge. Both were caused from a combination of having auto brightness enabled, along with heavy usage of YouTube while on my daily drives. I would have my phone attached to a car mount sitting on the air vents. While driving, the different lighting angles of the day would cause my screen to trigger daylight mode. I found out the hard way, that long periods of daylight mode watching videos was creating a burn-in on my screen. With this being a common problem, you would think that Samsung would consider this problem by allowing users more control on adjusting the daylight mode settings a bit more. Since then, I'm currently using "Screen Brightness Control(F-Lux)" to auto maintain a screen brightness between 35% - 70%. So far no burn-in on my note 9.
I've used the OLED tools and other tools to check burn in and it seems that i don't have any burn-in whatsoever, not even on the more used areas like the nav bar or notification bar. I use a system wide Amoled black theme that i created from the ThemeGalaxy app. I frequently run in fullscreen mode (or atleast try to) with a transparent nav bar with translucent icons. I typically have my brightness in the mid to high range but rarely full brightness. Even my most frequent used apps and system apps are completely black for the background and i use Vanced Youtube for the Amoled black background. Hope this helps for those that want to slow screen burn-in.
Today I am really just confused ?
Yesterday I showed you this dot pattern in my screen specials on the green pixels
Today thought like "take another look"
And it's gone
Everything is working like it should be
I have no clue why
Didn't change anything (only thing that comes to mind first is battery charge I will have a look again later)
But it's just gone
no dots nothing at all
Someone in this thread also said it disappeared and comes back
So let's investigate what's causing it
wer wo was said:
Today I am really just confused ?
Yesterday I showed you this dot pattern in my screen specials on the green pixels
Today thought like "take another look"
And it's gone
Everything is working like it should be
I have no clue why
Didn't change anything (only thing that comes to mind first is battery charge I will have a look again later)
But it's just gone
no dots nothing at all
Someone in this thread also said it disappeared and comes back
So let's investigate what's causing it
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Yep, mine has done the very same thing. I think it has to do with when the phone gets hot and the water cooling system is activated... but that's just a wild guess. Will take many who are having the same issue to investigate and test it out.
This thread reminded me to shift my desktop icons around.
I had burn in on my previous Note 8 that had them stuck on the main screen.
Possibly a combination of Auto Brightness and Super Crazy Outside Brightness.
- Which I just remembered to turn off.
So...Keep your eyes OPEN!
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Yep, mine has done the very same thing. I think it has to do with when the phone gets hot and the water cooling system is activated... but that's just a wild guess. Will take many who are having the same issue to investigate and test it out.
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As far as I know there is nothing to be activated with water cooling
This super carbon water cooling thing is just marketing bull**** ?
The note 9 have a noticeable bigger heat pipe than other phones and that's all
No real magic (search on YouTube "note 9 Jerry")
Yesterday I took the pictures with low battery state so I will drain battery now to the same amount and check
And also check your heat idea
Let's have a look
Use the displayed tester app by brainstree to check for screen burn in. Especially use the grey #8080 test card color. You can also adjust the brightness level by swiping the up or down . Normally the grey will show defects well.
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Every amoled screen I had was burned after some time. Mostly on the status bar. Once it was WhatsApp.
This time I want to prevent or delay it as long as possible. What recommendations do you have?
Never understood how people managed with burn ins. Well, stop watching a static picture with 100% brightness for 5hrs in a row is a good start.
i have owned more than a dozen samsung products with amoled screens, never had burn in on one of them. I always keep the screen very bright because my eyesight isnt that great. the one lg amoled phone i owned had terrible screen burn
The factors involved are: heat (ext), brightness (curr), uneven degradation rate of each color (rgb), persistent elements, and age (of panel). If half a screen is black and the other is blue, at max brightness, the blue subpixels are under the most stress. Their decay rate will overshadow the resting blue lights - plus that of green and red.
5yrs from now you're going to look at an all white image. Half of it will look awful.
Thanks guys, but not really helping, are you?
Fall asleep once with your phone under your face and you'll have a burn in your amoled screen. Probably many other ways.
This is a common issue that most people don't even notice.
I get how it happens. I'm looking for ways to prevent it.
Setting a screen timeout is helpful
Had every Samsung for years and never had this, so I've no idea.
Maybe some people don't have a screen timeout and fall asleep sometimes dunno
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Do i remember wrong, but didint Samsung add pixel shifting at least for their launcher elements which stay at same of screen all the time?
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Do i remember wrong, but didint Samsung add pixel shifting at least for their launcher elements which stay at same of screen all the time?
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I don't remember that. I know they had it on their Plasma TVs. I thought the Pixel phones with OLED screens also had it but don't know about Samsung phones. I do think that 99.9% of people that use a phone normally will never experience burn-in for the time they own the phone.
Use full immersive mode to hide the status bar and the top and bottom. Turn off auto brightness because if you leave it on and go in sun the brightness get high.
Screen time out to 15 seconds
Leave the brightness slider 50 percent or less
If you use aod make sure to flip the phone so it turns off when not using it
Use youtube in full screen if you use it a lot
These are my tips as I've had my screen changed 4 times due to burn in on my note 8.now using these methods my screen so far has no burn in
For me it's always was the top status bar that would burn in
But now I should never experience burn in ever again now I've actively tried to avoid it
Everyone I know that swears blind they don't have burn and have never had that issue on any device I immediately grab there phone and look closely on a complety grey background and 100 percent of them have status bar burn in at the top at the very least
No way am I turning stuff off to avoid something I've never seen
900 quid to have to suffer immersive mode utter lols, if I have to did that I'll sell it
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I also honestly don't know what you're talking about. I've had s3, s5, s7, s9 and now to s10. Never had anything of the sort and since s7 I've been using AOD. Nothing happend. For the love of me I can't imagine how you may have had anything wrong with the display....
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Use full immersive mode to hide the status bar and the top and bottom. Turn off auto brightness because if you leave it on and go in sun the brightness get high.
Screen time out to 15 seconds
Leave the brightness slider 50 percent or less
If you use aod make sure to flip the phone so it turns off when not using it
Use youtube in full screen if you use it a lot
These are my tips as I've had my screen changed 4 times due to burn in on my note 8.now using these methods my screen so far has no burn in
For me it's always was the top status bar that would burn in
But now I should never experience burn in ever again now I've actively tried to avoid it
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Exactly, it's always the status bar. I think there is no immersive mode on s10+ yet, but I removed all the icons.
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Everyone I know that swears blind they don't have burn and have never had that issue on any device I immediately grab there phone and look closely on a complety grey background and 100 percent of them have status bar burn in at the top at the very least
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THANK YOU
I'm pretty sure many think they never had a burn in on their precious amoled screen, but they actually had.
Well they probably aren't looking for it that closely
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Every amoled screen I had was burned after some time. Mostly on the status bar. Once it was WhatsApp.
This time I want to prevent or delay it as long as possible. What recommendations do you have?
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Lol, sorry to see everyone busting you up on this....because you know, it's always more helpful to give someone a bad time to ensure a post count increment, than to be useful and offer up some insight.
Well, I have had screen burn in occur on 3 different galaxy phones. Not from falling asleep, not from being clueless...but from using my phone with games. 2 were mine and 1 on My wife's..hers occurred from youtube.
I used to play clash of clans tons, got burn in from the smaller stats numbers at the top- over time...But replaced the phone no sweat. Verizon insurance took the phone as a defect, noted as screen image ghosting, no charge. I just didn't realize that it was an issue playing, but it was over time. I think it was an s6. The reps in the store were as surprised as I was that it had occurred.
Different device & model, S7 , but same thing occurred, not in the same game either...This time with clash royale- the towers and little cloud icon burned in from too much playing and too often, apparently. I thought I had been a bit more careful, but i think it was the frequency in which I was playing versus overall time.
This time I simply contacted support in the chat about the ghosting, they replaced it again as a defect, no charge.
My wife's occurred on the s7, hers was the top bar because of YouTube, too much & too often. So, did the same for my wife's phone through Verizon insurance, they replaced as a screen ghosting defect.
After I noted what was going on, she made adjustments, didn't happen again to either of us.
Both of us are on the 10s now and very aware this can occur. So, you just need to make sure you're not on those static images or bars or icons for either long periods or frequent shorter periods...it takes time, but it happens, despite popular misconception.
It is only really noticable on a white background, like when looking at mostly blank new tab in chrome.
On the last device, the S7, I made sure to cut the amount of time spent on static images, especially the games. I still kept the brightness always max during the day, nights it was at the lowest setting.
And yes, I kept my settings the same after the replacement, just made adjustments to my gaming approach. I didn't want to baby the phone screen settings, shouldn't have to. No issues on that one after adjusting my approach.
So, it's certainly possible to avoid and I bet there's many out there that use certain apps for long periods and frequently just do not really notice it may have occurred, even if slightly.. and I'm taking heavy users.
A note app with a clean page or white blank background reveals it, most of the time you're not using that, so ignorance is bliss...and makes It's easier for folks to bust on someone else for asking about screen burn in because they themselves are simply clueless it even remotely occured with them.
Heavy user naysayers, check your old phones, just for the heck of it... and then keep the findings to yourself because no one actually cares about you being right or wrong.
Anyway, it was an inconvenient lesson at the time,for me but good to know and learn from. Didn't cost me much but time, as it just took up time set up the phones again.
I know Samsung isn't too concerned about it or they wouldn't have preinstalled games on the phone (ie. solataire).
Just do your best to adjust your screen settings, like those that mentioned, if you're into that. Or simply adjust your apps/usage habits.
Don't overlook the Digital Wellbeing settings on the S10...that may also help you target certain apps with a timer also. Might be something useful for you.
Hope that helps some.
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sainthooligan said:
Lol, sorry to see everyone busting you up on this....because you know, it's always more helpful to give someone a bad time to ensure a post count increment, than to be useful and offer up some insight.
Well, I have had screen burn in occur on 3 different galaxy phones. Not from falling asleep, not from being clueless...but from using my phone with games. 2 were mine and 1 on My wife's..hers occurred from youtube.
I used to play clash of clans tons, got burn in from the smaller stats numbers at the top- over time...But replaced the phone no sweat. Verizon insurance took the phone as a defect, noted as screen image ghosting, no charge. I just didn't realize that it was an issue playing, but it was over time. I think it was an s6. The reps in the store were as surprised as I was that it had occurred.
Different device & model, S7 , but same thing occurred, not in the same game either...This time with clash royale- the towers and little cloud icon burned in from too much playing and too often, apparently. I thought I had been a bit more careful, but i think it was the frequency in which I was playing versus overall time.
This time I simply contacted support in the chat about the ghosting, they replaced it again as a defect, no charge.
My wife's occurred on the s7, hers was the top bar because of YouTube, too much & too often. So, did the same for my wife's phone through Verizon insurance, they replaced as a screen ghosting defect.
After I noted what was going on, she made adjustments, didn't happen again to either of us.
Both of us are on the 10s now and very aware this can occur. So, you just need to make sure you're not on those static images or bars or icons for either long periods or frequent shorter periods...it takes time, but it happens, despite popular misconception.
It is only really noticable on a white background, like when looking at mostly blank new tab in chrome.
On the last device, the S7, I made sure to cut the amount of time spent on static images, especially the games. I still kept the brightness always max during the day, nights it was at the lowest setting.
And yes, I kept my settings the same after the replacement, just made adjustments to my gaming approach. I didn't want to baby the phone screen settings, shouldn't have to. No issues on that one after adjusting my approach.
So, it's certainly possible to avoid and I bet there's many out there that use certain apps for long periods and frequently just do not really notice it may have occurred, even if slightly.. and I'm taking heavy users.
A note app with a clean page or white blank background reveals it, most of the time you're not using that, so ignorance is bliss...and makes It's easier for folks to bust on someone else for asking about screen burn in because they themselves are simply clueless it even remotely occured with them.
Heavy user naysayers, check your old phones, just for the heck of it... and then keep the findings to yourself because no one actually cares about you being right or wrong.
Anyway, it was an inconvenient lesson at the time,for me but good to know and learn from. Didn't cost me much but time, as it just took up time set up the phones again.
I know Samsung isn't too concerned about it or they wouldn't have preinstalled games on the phone (ie. solataire).
Just do your best to adjust your screen settings, like those that mentioned, if you're into that. Or simply adjust your apps/usage habits.
Don't overlook the Digital Wellbeing settings on the S10...that may also help you target certain apps with a timer also. Might be something useful for you.
Hope that helps some.
Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk
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Thank you for your insight. I wouldn't be able to return it if it happens.
I'm also worry the AOD can cause burn in. I never used it before because I had a notification led...
I know it moves around, but is that enough? I also turn it off 8hs a day.
lumiden said:
Thank you for your insight. I wouldn't be able to return it if it happens.
I'm also worry the AOD can cause burn in. I never used it before because I had a notification led...
I know it moves around, but is that enough? I also turn it off 8hs a day.
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You can set the schedule for the time for the AOD is active and either use the AOD auto brightness option or set the brightness lower, if that helps you feel more confident with it. The movement should help avoid issues.
FWIW, I used AOD with my previous phone without any issue and I anticipate the same with this one.
My burn in issue was only with the games & YouTube as noted.
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This is my main issue with AMOLED screens. They look nice but they wear out. The nature of Android means they will wear out unevenly which is why people see burn in. The wearing out of your screen is cumulative. Meaning that it isn't like an old CRT TV where it would take weeks of a static image to burn in but just showing the same image over time day in and day out. The only way to prevent it is to use the entire screen with moving images, like full screen movies, so that the panel wears evenly.
The status bar and navigation bar tend to be on the screen all the time those images will burn in first. Dark mode can also cause issues because if the area is dark it isn't being used and if it isn't being used it will look brighter than other areas that were used more frequently. The s10 has a full screen mode option for some apps. Some apps like Netflix will show the full screen movie even around the camera cutout and that is ideal. Youtube will also allow you to zoom in and show the video around the camera. cutout Chrome and the Samsung browser keep the status bar but it will change colors based on the site and if the bar is white it will invert the status icons which will help keep the panel wearing evenly. I have the dolphin browser which runs in full screen but the top portion of the panel is not used so that is less than ideal.
Auto brightness can be used but in the bright sun that panel is wearing much faster. The screen time out should be set to 15 seconds. These panels are designed to look great but not be super durable and in many cases that's what Samsung wants. They benefit when you have to buy a new device. It's sad to say but its business.
Hi all,
I want to find out if heavy usage of youtube on this phone will cause Screen Burn In?
Heavy usage = Always on youtube. At least 8 to 10 hours of youtube per day.
Unless all the videos have the same static image (or its the same video on loop) screen burn is unlikely. The only issue would likely be the video not filling the screen leaving black bars down the side which could burn in. I'd recommend zooming in the video to fill the screen to avoid that.
That would mean there will still be burn in. ???????
RaiderX303 said:
Unless all the videos have the same static image (or its the same video on loop) screen burn is unlikely. The only issue would likely be the video not filling the screen leaving black bars down the side which could burn in. I'd recommend zooming in the video to fill the screen to avoid that.
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isnt it an amoled display, meaning the black bars would just be the leds turned off meaning no burn in?
I use you tube a fair bit, maybe not to the extent the OP uses but a good few hours, and not even a hint of burn in
They would burn in eventually as the black bars are getting less use than the video area so they'd be brighter than the rest of the display
My experience with burn in is that I had to go change the front panel 4 times in One Year (Samsung). I am now afraid to buy a new phone because I don't want to have to go to the service centre 4-5 times in one year. Just wanted to find out if Huawei also would get such issue. And don't know if Huawei cover such issue in their warranty.
kljs said:
My experience with burn in is that I had to go change the front panel 4 times in One Year (Samsung). I am now afraid to buy a new phone because I don't want to have to go to the service centre 4-5 times in one year. Just wanted to find out if Huawei also would get such issue. And don't know if Huawei cover such issue in their warranty.
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It's going to happen on any Amoled screen if you leave the same image on for long periods of time, nothing to do with the manufacturer of the device, the displays are rarely made by the same OEM as the device anyway
Turn brightness down and don't leave the same image on the screen, turn it off when not using it
I would recomend you to use "Youtube Vanced" as it has built in "background playback" and completly black theme and you can also turn the screen off during video playback.
adamlee2012 said:
I've had my P30 PRO since July 2019 and no burn in at all. 6-8 hours screen time a day.
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Me too, the display seems very high quality in terms of build quality....
It really depends on your personal usage. High brightness means screen burn ins will appear sooner rather then later. On my old Galaxy S4, after 3 years of usage, no burn ins. On my old Galaxy A5 2016, after 2 years, no burn ins. My girlfriend's Galaxy S9+, after 1 and a half year, full keyboard burn in. She uses her phone with brightness at maximum a lot of times while I, on the other hand, can't stand high brightness, only in direct sunlight.
It all depends on your usage.