Hi.
so i want to back up my rom and try a new one. because so much stuff installed and tweeks i have already made i dont want to lose them all.
what is the possible way to backup everything. and then try a different rom, if i didnt like it i can go back to this rom like nothing happened ?
titanum backup only backup your applications as far as i know. not the whole rom with application
Rom Manager... i tried to do backup once before but it failed to find the rom when i went to the recovery. i dont know if i did something wrong back then. but any help would be thankful
Do a nandroid backup through recovery
Use ClockworkMod and do a Nandroid. Make sure it's the latest version, as one of the CWM versions wouldn't restore properly without reflashing the ROM over the top. Latest version works really well though.
Hello guys,
I've been looking around hier for a while, and I spotted a Custom ROM that I'd like to try, it's this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424260
I've never rooted my phone before so I don't have experience with it.
I found a couple of threads that can help me but, I don't know in wich order I have to follow them.
First of all, I'd like to make a complete back-up of my current ROM, so in case something goes wrong, I can restore it. How do I do this? I read something about ClockWorkMod and a nandroid back-up, can somebody clear this out?
I have an unrooted HTC Incredible S with S-ON. So first, I think that I have to get S-OFF? I found a tutorial with the Revolutionary tool, but it doesn't support my HBoot, so I think that's not an option?
So then, I found this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
The tutorial is easy to follow, but can I create a full back-up before I start the tutorial?
And to get S-OFF, do I need a rooted device?
I hope somebody can help me. If you need more information, just ask.
Here is some information about my device:
- Android 2.3.5
- HTC Sense 3.0
- S-ON
- Not rooted
- HBoot 2.00.0000
- No SIM-lock
If more information is needed, please ask.
Unfortunately having your current h-boot the method available to you to root and install custom ROMs does not let you back up your phone prior to flashing. As the method used is flashing a new ROM that allows root access to your phone. Prior H-boots (1.13.0000) allowed you to root your phone without flashing a custom ROM thus unlocking boot loader to be flashed CWM as a custom recovery and allowing you to create a nandroid backup of your current state before flashing a new rom. However[/] the process you are going to need to complete might contain a back-up function included in the flashing process, I don't know for sure as I flashed from 1.13.0000, but it doesn't really matter as your going to have to complete the process anyways. I say just go for it and follow the instructions to the "T". If you follow everything properly and take your time you shouldn't encounter any problems.
In the tutorial I posted, step 10 is
10. Using volume up/down and power to select, go down to Backup/Restore. Select it, then hit Backup. ClockWorkMod will backup your stock ROM in case there are any dramas and you want to go back to it.
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Will this create a complete back-up? So when I restore it, will everything be back the way it is right now?
MrSenne said:
In the tutorial I posted, step 10 is
Will this create a complete back-up? So when I restore it, will everything be back the way it is right now?
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Exactly. Stay safe.
So if I just follow that tutorial, I will have a Custom ROM with root? And do I still have to get S-OFF?
You don't need to go S-OFF to flash a custom rom. There is actually no need whatsoever to go S-OFF, unless you want to go and flashing other radios. But the lastest sense 3.0 and android 2.3.5 update included the lastest radio, so keep S-ON. Better for warranty.
First go to htcdev.com and follow the instructions to unlock bootloader. BE AWARE THAT THIS WILL WIPE YOUR PHONE TO FACTORY DEFAULTS for security reasons, sdcard remains untouched.
After bootloader unlocked you can flash the clockwork recovery (you're still S-ON). Once you flashed that you can go into recovery with volumebutton down and power on. Take a backup with clockwork (=nandroid = full image of the phone in its current state) of your original rom and start flashing custom ones.
They're is probably a time where you gonna think you bricked your phone, I have. But I always got through it by searching the forum. Always, in any circomstance, manually push the boot.img of the associated rom from a PC to your phone. So never flash a ROM from your sdcard if you don't have a PC in hand. Otherwise it will probably not boot or get hardware not working (not broken in anyway, just not properly loaded).
Before changing roms, I always do the ARHD wipe script. Just to be sure every trace of the previous rom is gone. There are multiple partitions on your phone (system, data, boot). It wipes all of them to start clean.
The ROMs you are going to flash are rooted by default.
So now, of you go and be a ICS beta tester
Thanks fot the explenation.
But, because I can't root my phone because it's HBoot 2.00.0000; I can't make a back-up of it? Not even with Titanium Back-up.
Is there any way I can back-up my app's? So I don't lose all the saved data in the app's?
MrSenne said:
Thanks fot the explenation.
But, because I can't root my phone because it's HBoot 2.00.0000; I can't make a back-up of it? Not even with Titanium Back-up.
Is there any way I can back-up my app's? So I don't lose all the saved data in the app's?
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As far as I know the answer is "no".
You need clockwork for a nandroidbackup, you need bootloader unlocked for clockwork, unlocking bootloader wipes your phone.
I accidently wipe mine with the unlocking of the bootloader. It seems harder than it is to start over. Just link contacts and calendar with gmail, backup sms on sdcard in messaging. That's all you need. Starting over is good to get the crappy apps gone
Hmm, okay, then I'll have to do it without making a back-up.
And is there an easy way to switch between ROM's? Without using a computer.
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And is there an easy way to switch between ROM's? Without using a computer.
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It is very easy to change roms. They are stored in zip-format on your sdcard which you can browse to with clockwork. Also the nandroidbackups are stored on your sdcard and can also be chosen with clockwork.
Experience tells me that you still need to flash the boot.img of the rom manually after you flashed the rom (something to do with clockwork not able to write in boot partition while in recovery-mode, you have to be in fastboot-mode). Flashing the boot.img litterly takes 2 secs to upload, done, and reboot.
So it is no big deal to swich:
- boot in recovery
- browse to the desired rom/backup
- start and wait 5 mins
- boot in fastboot
- connect to pc and flash boot.img
- wait 2 secs and reboot
Do not flash when you need the phone and there is no pc around. If it goes wrong, you need your usb pc to fix things.
I heard something about Rommanager, can I use this and what does it do excactly?
MrSenne said:
I heard something about Rommanager, can I use this and what does it do excactly?
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ROM Manager is an app that works with ClockworkMod recovery to keep it up to date and allows you to make and manage CWM nandroid backups and manage partitions on your SD card. The paid version also allows you to download custom ROMs and flash them.
It requires root access in order to run.
But it's not a necessary application?
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But it's not a necessary application?
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No, not really.
Ok, propably I'll try it this evening.
Thanks for everything who helped me, I followed the tutorial and everything is working fine.
Hey guys,
Sorry if this seems really noobish, but I seem be to kinda lost in all of this ROM'ing goodness.
I have read up on installing custom roms and plan on doing so but I have a couple of questions first before I take that last step (already unlocked and rooted on my One) - note: I have read through the guides but I still seem a little confused as to what exactly changes.
I notice that all tuts mention that you will lose all data on your phone. Does this include installed apps or are we just talking system files needed for the new rom? I have my phone setup already and have my apps backing up with Helium (Carbon) but this is something I seem to be a little confused with
Secondly, using something like CWM (Premium), can I update my ROM quickly and easily without losing any data?
I know that unlocking my bootloader will not get me OTA's so I am looking forward to using many of the awesome ROMs here on the site!
1) When you flash a rom, you need to do a full wipe in aroma.
Full wipe will erase all but not the sd, so your app in home, your background, your account will be erased.
2) You can upgrade your rom with CWM if is the same rom and the base isn't different.
If the base is different you have to do a full wipe.
One more
How likely is base to change for a ROM package? And if I have to flash that new ROM package instead of doing the update through CWM, am I back at square one again with my apps and data or is it just updating what it needs to?
Thanks again for the help!
Then:
Now, all the rom is based on 1.29.401.13.
When it will change (it depens from htc) and you will flash the latest update of rom, you have to do a full wipe, and you will lose all file, settings and other.
Instead, if you have to flash an update like: you're on 2.5 to 2.6, you can flash the rom with only dalvik cache and cache wipe.
But it depens, you always have to read in thread rom
I guess its not so big of a deal considering I can backup most of my apps using Helium and the rest of the apps can just be redownloaded if I keep a list. Configurations should be backed up anyways.
Thanks for the help!
If you're rooted and you will restore your app after a full wipe, i advise you titanium backup.
With this you can do a flashable zip with all your apps and data
Thanks!
I will take a look at Titanium backup and see what it can do! It would only make sense that someone would invent a way to backup all your apps and data (no matter what) to be able to restore them after a ROM update that wipes the phone completely!
Titanium backup can do this
However, only data app, not system app.
If you backupping system app too, you can have issue with new update of rom
I have an Xperia Z C6603 which I purchased last month, updated to Android 4.2.2, and which is still under warranty.
I want to root the device so that I can make Nandroid backups among other things. I am going to use DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit and have the necessary files in place ready to use.
After rooting I will have to install CWM Recovery in order to restore any Nandroid backups should I need to. I do not want to install a non-stock ROM at the moment as I'm quite happy with the performance of the stock ROM.
If I need to return the device under warranty I shall need to restore the stock, non-rooted, ROM and I have a stock ROM C6603_10.3.1.A.0.244_Generic UK.ftf to do that if required.
What I don't understand, even after doing lots of searches, is whether restoring the stock ROM will overwrite the CWM Recovery as that would be a bit of a giveaway.
Can anyone explain please?
BarrySamuels said:
I have an Xperia Z C6603 which I purchased last month, updated to Android 4.2.2, and which is still under warranty.
I want to root the device so that I can make Nandroid backups among other things. I am going to use DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit and have the necessary files in place ready to use.
After rooting I will have to install CWM Recovery in order to restore any Nandroid backups should I need to. I do not want to install a non-stock ROM at the moment as I'm quite happy with the performance of the stock ROM.
If I need to return the device under warranty I shall need to restore the stock, non-rooted, ROM and I have a stock ROM C6603_10.3.1.A.0.244_Generic UK.ftf to do that if required.
What I don't understand, even after doing lots of searches, is whether restoring the stock ROM will overwrite the CWM Recovery as that would be a bit of a giveaway.
Can anyone explain please?
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Flashing stock FTF will first wipe your existing files on your phone (even Superuser / SuperSU / any superuser permission-app will be erased) and then replace everything. This will also erase any trace of custom recovery image that is existing on your Z!
Hi. I wanna ask about the CWM.
Let say i now backup the 4.1root (/stock), then i :
1) flash/update to 4.3 166 stock, can i recover it back to 4.1 if i dont want to use 4.3?
2) flash to any ROM, can i recover it back to the backup i did?
my question is simple, just if i update, can i recover it back to the old firmware or not.
thx
terryforever said:
Hi. I wanna ask about the CWM.
Let say i now backup the 4.1root (/stock), then i :
1) flash/update to 4.3 166 stock, can i recover it back to 4.1 if i dont want to use 4.3?
2) flash to any ROM, can i recover it back to the backup i did?
my question is simple, just if i update, can i recover it back to the old firmware or not.
thx
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Not sure how you did your backup or how reliable it is, and I am not sure that backups can delete your 4.3 existing cache, etc (leading you to a hybrid hung system)...others more experience may chip in.
In my case, I backup appz and data (only) using titanium.
I updated to 4.3 or customised ROMs. Didn't like them and downgraded it back to 4.1 and re-rooted each time (as long as you have the full original 4.1 FTF file). Then restore my apps...
There are a couple of tutorials on "downgrading"...
Edit - found a link on 'downgrading': http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658952