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Another Android first from Fahrbot Mobile
SwitchMe is a unique application for root users that allows you to log in and out of multiple installations of Android just as you would on a desktop computer.
The technology behind SwitchMe saves all of your applications and data, protects it and stores it as a file in memory. You can then log out of an
account and log into a fresh installation of Android or another account with its own unique content.
You may create as many profiles as the memory is capable of holding. Some of these may require very little free memory because they contain few apps,
others will be larger as they contain many applications and lots of cache and data.
Why is this functionality useful?
Privacy - the most obvious benefit is that you can securely share one device among multiple users, which gives you privacy and peace of mind.
E-reading - whenever you want to read on your tablet but dont want any notifications or need any connectivity, just switch to an ereader profile.
Testing - if you are a developer, you can use profiles as clean sandboxes to test your applications and their interaction with the system.
Gaming – with multiple installations of Android on a single device, you can now play online MMOs as different characters.
Speed - the games your kids play slow down your tablet, but with SwitchMe you can easily create profiles without games or instant messengers.
Battery life - when the battery is low but there are important emails or documents to edit later, switch to a profile which only contains these essentials.
These of course are only suggestions - there are plenty of other uses for the functionality SwitchMe offers.
Usage warning
Its critical to understand that incorrect use of this application can potentially harm your device. This can happen if you create and switch to a profile that
exceeds the available memory – switching into this profile will cause a boot loop as Android attempts to unsuccessfully build the Dalvik cache.
Before proceeding with use we strongly recommend that you perform a full nandroid backup through recovery.
UNOFFICIAL A2SD SOLUTIONS ARE NOT SUPPORTED, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Stay tuned, and please rate the application by pressing the star button on the main screen - good ratings help us improve and expand functionality!
Usage warning
Its critical to understand that incorrect use of this application can potentially harm your device. This can happen if you create and switch to a profile that
exceeds the available memory – switching into this profile will cause a boot loop as Android attempts to unsuccessfully build the Dalvik cache.
Before proceeding with use we strongly recommend that you perform a full nandroid backup through recovery.
MOST UNOFFICIAL A2SD AND SIMILAR SOLUTIONS ARE NOT SUPPORTED, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Stay tuned, and please rate the application by pressing the star button on the main screen - good ratings help us improve and expand functionality!
Market link:
The Lite version only allows the creation of two profiles and has no security features.
Screens:
Seems neat, can you use the same version of Android with multiple profiles?
Yes... isn't that what it says?
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So it is a lot like BootManager? Only hopefully works well and doesnt have tons of bugs
No its nothing like bootmanager.
Hi, first thanks a lot for this app, was looking for something like this a while.
My question is,
i create two accounts, as tell by the help.
One is my main OS, CM7, nightly 181, glitch 13.1
The other account i just see like four hundred kb memory used. if i reboot with this account i get a boot loop only solved by nandroid restore.
What am i doing wrong?
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I don't know, its probably something to do with SD links to apps, or just sme weird crazy from the nightly. Works fine on all our cm7 and 9 builds at the office.
By the way, tried the TASK from for 10.1 - it worked fine! So your issues are probably from the mods and other crap. But while you're there, ask yourself, what kind of nutjob would want a grey framework on a tablet like this? Just ditch it for something cool like KANG or at least that Overcome!
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I don't know, its probably something to do with SD links to apps, or just sme weird crazy from the nightly. Works fine on all our cm7 and 9 builds at the office.
By the way, tried the TASK from for 10.1 - it worked fine! So your issues are probably from the mods and other crap. But while you're there, ask yourself, what kind of nutjob would want a grey framework on a tablet like this? Just ditch it for something cool like KANG or at least that Overcome!
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Ok, message received.
Will try from clean cm7 and then I'll go on from there.
Thanks
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Yes... isn't that what it says?
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I was just double checking...
Any issues to report?
1.0.10 - this release is aimed at increasing compatibility, if your device was not supported before for some reason, please use the new logging function to let us know why!
Improved logging, added ability to send logs even from incompatible devices
Reworked native switch code - it is now faster and much more stable on all architectures
Added new notification graphics for all screen resolutions
Any issues to report? Did the last version help those who could not fast switch?
i have jus tried on my kindle, and it works. now ill have to re root it to switch back
This is very cool! I had to pull my battery on the first restart though. My boot animation was up for over 30 minutes. Pulled the battery and it booted right into the second profile.
Unlike the above post, I did not need to reroot. I'm assuming it's just because my ROM is rooted already.
Please excuse my ignorance, I try to avoid flashing as much as possible, but how would I go about installing a different ROM onto just one profile?
Thanks for this nice app! I will actually use it!
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Things I noticed:
-On my first swap back into my default profile, I had no vibration! No apps, ringer, notifications, or anything at all. I messed with my settings but it would not vibrate until I restarted.
-This might sound crazy, but I actually think this improved my boot speed. I am running a Droid Charge with Humble 5.0. It wasn't slow before, and maybe it's in my head, but it seems really fast! (I don't have fast swap enabled either)
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i have jus tried on my kindle, and it works. now ill have to re root it to switch back
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You will only loose root if it was installed outside /system with a different name... since 1.0.8 the app copies the binary as well, so that should not be happening. Let me know if it still is please!
Works fine for me! Bought the pro version as this is really very handy - and cheap!
The only real issues so far have been with MIUI... almost everything else should work fine.
I enabled fast switch, and I am very impressed with it! I can switch to my second profile in about 15-20 seconds.
It works great on Droid Charge running Humble 5.0 (2.3.6)
One thing I noticed is that I need to configure my account settings on both profiles, or it messes up my normal profile. Because I am not logged in to my google account on the second, it got rid of all my contacts on the first, and had some verification issues when I tried to buy apps, and with google voice. It also changed my keyboard. None of these are huge issues, you just need to reconcile these differences between the profiles.
Does it work for all Android ?
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I enabled fast switch, and I am very impressed with it! I can switch to my second profile in about 15-20 seconds.
It works great on Droid Charge running Humble 5.0 (2.3.6)
One thing I noticed is that I need to configure my account settings on both profiles, or it messes up my normal profile. Because I am not logged in to my google account on the second, it got rid of all my contacts on the first, and had some verification issues when I tried to buy apps, and with google voice. It also changed my keyboard. None of these are huge issues, you just need to reconcile these differences between the profiles.
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That shouldnt be happening... are you sure?
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Does it work for all Android ?
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It works for all Android versions except those with some types of folder and file links like a2sd.
Google Now 8/8/2012
Description
Well for thous trying get Google Now on ICS, i found a post, and successively installed it, now I'm giving you instructions and i will update it every time an update comes.
I DONT TAKE ANY CREDIT! FOR GOOGLE NOW ZIPS AND APK
I am not responsible if you brick you phone
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PLEASE REFER TO THIS LINK FOR GOOGLE NOW: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30269273#post30269273
Nice. Thanks.
This morning I installed Google Now for Arco's CM9 Alpha 7. I am not interested in cards and notifications (as they eat a lot of battery and are laggy) but I am only interested in voice search (kind of cool) so I installed Mikey6_Online package, I disactivated all Google Now options and maps option but it's laggy as well.. If you have any ideas how to make it work smoothly, I'm buying.
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Nice. Thanks.
This morning I installed Google Now for Arco's CM9 Alpha 7. I am not interested in cards and notifications (as they eat a lot of battery and are laggy) but I am only interested in voice search (kind of cool) so I installed Mikey6_Online package, I disactivated all Google Now options and maps option but it's laggy as well.. If you have any ideas how to make it work smoothly, I'm buying.
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A Few reasons:
-Well first, offline package does reduce the lag a bit, try that
-Our kernel of the ICS is not done, i mean the kernel is not finished, so performance can be a question, do to the kernel's config, no-oc, no-ow, etc.
-If you have many processes in background it can cause the lag, in fact it can make a huge lag if you have like 10-15 high process[WebBrowser,Games,Maps,Music Player[Playing ofc], FACEBOOK [This app is the biggest ram, and performance killer], PlayStore]
-Try config the CPU's speed, and CPU governor [Settings - Performance - Processor] and set the CPU Governor to Performance, and min CPU frequency to 368, This will make Google Now work very very Well
I love this. I flashed it over slim ics and works like charm. Thanks.
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if i install online package and then find out that indeed is very laggy, how can i install offline package. simply by running the zip file through cwm or i must do something else?
Thanks
Thanks for directing me to that link
where is the lockscreen file of a rom?and whats its name?
and the wallpapers of the rom?
Hi,
I have recently upgraded from my 3yr old beloved HD2, the most amazing device ever to play with to Motorola Atrix HD which is THE ONLY Motorola device that is compatible with Tmobile 3G and of course 4G since it support 1700 bandwidth along with 1800 and 2100. Anyways...as I was playing with this phone like rooting, installing apps and removing ATT bloatware....I wanted to share some of the things with you all. I hope you find it useful......
-If you want your phone to be rooted....My first advice is not to upgrade this phone to Jelly Bean as it is harder to root it with JB than it is with ICS. I have used every single Android version in my good old HD2 and I can tell you this there is not any striking difference between these to versions as I have used both and using ICS was better to play with for me...what really made me mad was that my purchased Copilot live 8 app does not recognize my purchased Svox US Grace tts anymore...it did in ICS ...Again, I am not a developer, and developers may argue otherwise
-If you willfully or accidentally upgraded to JB please follow this thread(courtesy of DAN ) for rooting instructions...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2143437
It make may not be a very simple for some of you but be patient, read all the posts and keep trying and you will succeed. This is the only option to root Atrix HD with JB and unfortunately there is no way you can rollback to ICS to get the easy root. For instructions on rooting Atrix HD ICS see here(Also THANKS to DAN )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940594
Without rooting you can't really do much to make your device more efficient....since all utility apps require root access!!!
Now, if you are rooted......AND you have stock ICS or JellyBean....follow my tips if you will, you will see more efficiency in terms app fluidity and power saving....
-Install System App Remover or Titanium Backup Pro to uninstall all the bloatware that are useless and just sitting on your device and memory for no apparent reason....here is hint: if you have not used an app in last 4-6 weeks, chances are you will never use it/them. You will better success with Titanium backup pro in removing them than System app remover....but be very careful what you delete if are not sure just leave it alone!!! HINT: freeze app first see the effect, be sure then uninstall
-Install Startup manager or any app that does this, to block unnecessary process or app to load up...again if you are not sure leave it alone!!!
-Install any task manager/killer and set it auto kill every 30/15mins or when device is off...closes running apps, frees memory and saves battery.
-Optional: install Rom manager or Rom tool box and fix permission if you have a lots of apps installed in your device. As the claim, this should make the apps run smoother.....No offense to the developers, I personally have not seen and practical effect of this step(it may be just in theory), not in my HD2 and not in Atrix HD...but I like to be on the safe side..it does not hurt!!!
-If you are not a heavy gamer then, install SetCpu or Antutu or something of your choice to scale down the CPU a bit...you don't really need that much speed for normal stuff and you will save a lot of battery this way.
-More battery will be saved if you configure built-in app called SmartActions to a profile that suits you. You can also install auto on/off 2G/3G/4G. I personally don't use it...as it takes long time to switch back to 3G/4G when you wake up your device and you need to use internet right away...not after 10mins..lolll
-If you are in ICS install Widgetlocker app and set it up to Easywake mode to wake your device by pressing volume key....it will save the torture on your power button any time you want to wake up device...NOTE: This App option does not work on JB....so your only substitute is to install WakeUp Screen app to wake up device by shaking instead....TIP: set up threshold to as low as possible so that you don't destroy the inner structure of your Atrix or let it slip out of your hand or smash it on the ground by shaking it too hard....you should not sacrifice your phone over the power button, right???
-Install Lux auto brightness app and adjust/lower your brightness to your choice...I personally think it is too bright in stock mode...saves battery.
WELL........I guess that's all the utility apps you need as far as I can think of and your device will be more efficient......all of these can be installed from the infamous google play....
If you use custom rom via safestrap method...many/some of these features are/may be built in or customizable within the rom...you won't need third party apps...I myself have not installed custom rom although I am flashaholic and I still have my HD2 for that...but I like to wait the custom roms to mature a bit more since I see complaints of buggy camera or sound or bluetooth etc......And since I have customized and cleaned up the stock rom via above stated apps....I don't think I will ever try or need to flash my Atrix HD since it run perfectly up to my expectation....for flashing rom matter I have my HD2 lolllll
NOTE FOR THOSE WHO WILL SCREW UP REGARDLESS: I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE AND IF YOU ARE NOT SURE. DON'T DO IT...SIMPLE!
PS: If you have any tips or tricks please join in and share!!!!
I hope you find this helpful...if you do, hit the thanks button...and if you don't...I wish there was a unthank button...xda should work on that
What do you think?
Our CPU is of 1.5 ghz, how much shud we set it at?
I set it up up at 1024...fast enough for me...see for itself you can always change it also make sure to check set at reboot option...I use antutu CPU control. You can also also use diff profile option like...at screen screen set it up around 600 or so...will save even more juice...
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NYSEAN1 said:
I set it up up at 1024...fast enough for me...see for itself you can always change it also make sure to check set at reboot option...I use antutu CPU control. You can also also use diff profile option like...at screen screen set it up around 600 or so...will save even more juice...
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Yea the good old underclocking when the screen is off i have been doing since i had my HTC Incredible saves so much battery nice tips btw.
Long story short! i am not happy with the performance of my nexus 7 32gb wifi from 4.2 - 4.3 my battery life is crap (cant even get over 3h onscreen time)
i want to downgrade my tablet to 4.1.2 stock rooted because Ive been hearing good things about that version
i am on bootloader 4.18, can i just wipe data (without wiping sd card) and flash the 4.1.2 zip
or do i have to clean the whole tablet and flash a lower version bootloader?
Thanks in advance!:laugh:
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Long story short! i am not happy with the performance of my nexus 7 from 4.2 - 4.3 my battery life is crap (cant even get over 3h onscreen time)
i want to downgrade my tablet to 4.1.2 stock rooted because Ive been hearing good things about that version
i am on bootloader 4.18, can i just wipe data (without wiping sd card) and flash the 4.1.2 zip
or do i have to clean the whole tablet and flash a lower version bootloader?
Thanks in advance!:laugh:
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Afaik you will need to wipe everything and flash the lower bootloader and then the 4.1.2 firmware/Rom ect. Following any guide for returning to stock or downgrading should suffice for your needs
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Have you tried doing a clean flash of 4.3 using fastboot? It wipes the tablet clean, but I found the performance improvement going from 4.2 very noticeable. I normally get around 8-9 sot with it. It's the 32 gb wifi model bought on release date.
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Long story short! i am not happy with the performance of my nexus 7 from 4.2 - 4.3 my battery life is crap (cant even get over 3h onscreen time)
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That's not normal, unless those 3 hours are playing games.
Backup and restore the entire system using Nexus images. There are posts archiving older ones, so finding 4.1.x should be easy. You'll also have to look into how to block OTA requests, etc.
That said, I agree with the bottom poster. Wipe clean and see what happens. Something is wrong with your current configuration.
I agree with the points above, I wouldn't downgrade. It can cause huge issues if done wrong, then you'll have to sort out the annoying "Update" notifications by disabling them. Its all alot of work for not much of a reward.
I'd do a full backup.
Complete wipe of everything
Re-install Factory Image
Restore what you need from backup.
Ok guys ive fully cleaned my tablet (wiped sd +system), updated the bootloader and installed stock rooted 4.3 with stock kernel
the performance issues have been resolved but the battery is still the same, can't get over 2.5h on screen time with little use
i am hoping its a rogue app that is causing the battery drain and i need your help
this is the list of apps on my tablet
AdAway
Adobe reader
amazon
app lock
APW
Argos
Auto trader
battery widget reborn
bbc iplayer
bbc media player
betterbaterystats
busybox free
cineworld official
dead trigger
dice player
dolphin browser
eBay
flash player settings
flow free
fruit ninja
glow hockey
gold miner free
HD widgets
hill climb racing
inage 2 wallpaper
memedroid
my beach hd
mybackup pro
osmos hd
paper toss
pool billiards pro
riptide GP2
rom manager
root explorer
setcpu
shine runner
sixaxis controller
slice hd
slingshot racing
spirit
sprinkle
simpsons tapped out
the game of life
titanium backup
tv catchup
vector
xda
xposed app settings
xposed installer
YouTube down-loader
need help guys
qaz2453 said:
Ok guys ive fully cleaned my tablet (wiped sd +system), updated the bootloader and installed stock rooted 4.3 with stock kernel
the performance issues have been resolved but the battery is still the same, can't get over 2.5h on screen time with little use
i am hoping its a rogue app that is causing the battery drain and i need your help
this is the list of apps on my tablet
AdAway
Adobe reader
amazon
app lock
APW
Argos
Auto trader
battery widget reborn
bbc iplayer
bbc media player
betterbaterystats
busybox free
cineworld official
dead trigger
dice player
dolphin browser
eBay
flash player settings
flow free
fruit ninja
glow hockey
gold miner free
HD widgets
hill climb racing
inage 2 wallpaper
memedroid
my beach hd
mybackup pro
osmos hd
paper toss
pool billiards pro
riptide GP2
rom manager
root explorer
setcpu
shine runner
sixaxis controller
slice hd
slingshot racing
spirit
sprinkle
simpsons tapped out
the game of life
titanium backup
tv catchup
vector
xda
xposed app settings
xposed installer
YouTube down-loader
need help guys
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Hi, qaz22453...
This does sound more than a little odd.
2.5 hours screen time is way below what you should be expecting... and a rogue app sounds like a likely candidate.
Have you tried analysing your battery usage with either BetterBatteryStats or GSam Battery Monitor.
BetterBatteryStats is the better of the two... as it gives more detailed information on app 'wakelocks' that might be draining your battery.
For myself, on Factory Stock JellyBean 4.3, I get around 6.5 hours screen time, over a couple of days. I could possibly get 7 hours, but I'm not comfortable about letting the battery drop below 15%.
The following tips might also help...
Trying disabling any 'syncing' activity you won't need in SETTINGS>>GOOGLE>>ACCOUNTS. Stuff like App Data, Calender, Chrome, Contacts, Gmail, Google Currents, Google Photos, Google Play Books, Google Play Magazines, Google Play Movies, Google Play Music, Keep, People Details, Sound Search for Google Play. That's a lot of stuff, that by default Android automatically 'syncs'... and it's gotta have an impact on battery performance. So... IF YOU DON'T NEED IT, DISABLE IT.
In SETTINGS>>WIRELESS & NETWORKS>>Wi-Fi>>menu>>ADVANCED... set Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep to 'Never'.
In SETTINGS>>WIRELESS & NETWORKS>>More... Disable NFC (unless you plan on using Near Field Communications anytime soon).
In SETTINGS>>LOCATION ACCESS... Disable GPS satellites. Location by GPS only works if you're outdoors and you have effective'line-of-sight' to the GPS satellites. In other words, the sky. Wi-Fi & mobile network location is accurate enough for most purposes
If you backup your tablet regularly to your PC (or know how to), you can also disable 'Backup My Data' in SETTINGS>>BACKUP & RESET.
And finally, if Bluetooth is enabled in SETTINGS>>WIRELESS & NETWORKS... and you don't need it... disable it.
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All these, collectively (enabled as they are by default) will have a detrimental effect on battery performance.
Enable what you need... and no more.
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To conclude...
Using either of two apps I referenced above... run the tablet through a complete charge and discharge cycle (without reboot)... and they should reveal which app is draining the battery the most.
You might also want to consider disabling the Auto-Brightness feature in SETTINGS>>DISPLAY>>BRIGHTNESS... and manually set your own brightness level. Personally, I often find the screen too bright anyway, and prefer to set it to very low (around 15-20%).
Good luck.
Rgrds,
Ged.
Thank you so much for your help
I did try betterbatterystats.. But not thought a full charge and discharge cycle
I will let my battery fully discharge, then charge while off , then I'll use betterbatterystats to determine the battery hog
Once again, thanks for your help
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Thank you so much for your help
I did try betterbatterystats.. But not thought a full charge and discharge cycle
I will let my battery fully discharge, then charge while off , then I'll use betterbatterystats to determine the battery hog
Once again, thanks for your help
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No problem, qaz2453...
But just a word of caution... I wouldn't let the battery COMPLETELY discharge (ie., hit 0%).
It's generally not considered a good idea to FULLY discharge Lith-Ion batteries as it impairs their performance and reduces their lifetime expectancy.
cf. this article... http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-apps/five-tips-for-extending-lithium-ion-battery-life
And on the Nexus 7, there have been reported soft-brick problems when the battery gets really low (<5%)... although it's nothing that can't be fixed.
Personally, I 'plug-in' at no lower than 10%... although I have gone as low 4% (usually when I've completely forgotten the thing is running low on juice).
Get a battery widget, like this one from PlayStore (been using this one for three years now, on a variety of Android boxes, including the Nexus 7; tried others... but I always come back to it. It consumes next to no resources!).
And keep a periodic eye on BetterBatteryStats... to see which 'wakelocks' or CPU processes might be the culprit behind your unusually short screen-time.
Rgrds,
Ged.
Hi all, I'm considering a move to Droid 4 from Stratosphere II. So far I've rooted it and flashed in the altpart version of SafeStrap recovery. This requires the use of the 20170405 unofficial build of LineageOS 14.1 that I had to dig out of an archive in Germany which uses the WebTop partition as a fat, juicy 1.3GB /system partition for gapps and also leaves me with a full 8.0GB free internal memory. HOWEVER --
Its performance is sporadic. At times it hangs for a long time before doing anything, like open the camera or the browser (I'm using Adblock Plus with the stocker disabled). The camera can take over 30 seconds to load. Often it's so slow to open things I tap on, that I tap on it again thinking it didn't "hear" me the first time, then it processes both taps and gives me more than I bargained for and damn near sends me into orbit over it. It takes some real restraint not to tap twice on stuff, but it's all just wearing me out.
The GoogleNow app is especially bad. It's so slow it's basically unusable. This was true on my Strat-II as well, but going back to the stock version fixed it there -- however I have been unable to transplant that version over to the Droid 4 with TitaniumBackup.
Videos are unwatchable, whether natively produced or on YouTube. They skip, hang, jerk and stutter.
Bluetooth has issues pairing with devices. I've sometimes been able to get things to pair after rebooting, sometimes not. And there's often an audio stutter in there until I reboot -- which seems like a memory problem again.
Wifi doesn't work after a soft reboot.
I tried a newer build (2/22/18) but it was just as bad if not worse. Same with an older 13.0 build. I think the reality here is that there's just not enough RAM to work with. If it had the full 1.0GB available to the OS (instead of the 834MB it actually has) it would probably alleviate these problems, but the video RAM is apparently shared and not discrete.
So my question is, can anyone recommend a well-behaved, solid-performing ROM for Droid 4?
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Hi all, I'm considering a move to Droid 4 from Stratosphere II. So far I've rooted it and flashed in the altpart version of SafeStrap recovery. This requires the use of the 20170405 unofficial build of LineageOS 14.1 that I had to dig out of an archive in Germany which uses the WebTop partition as a fat, juicy 1.3GB /system partition for gapps and also leaves me with a full 8.0GB free internal memory. HOWEVER --
Its performance is sporadic. At times it hangs for a long time before doing anything, like open the camera or the browser (I'm using Adblock Plus with the stocker disabled). The camera can take over 30 seconds to load. Often it's so slow to open things I tap on, that I tap on it again thinking it didn't "hear" me the first time, then it processes both taps and gives me more than I bargained for and damn near sends me into orbit over it. It takes some real restraint not to tap twice on stuff, but it's all just wearing me out.
The GoogleNow app is especially bad. It's so slow it's basically unusable. This was true on my Strat-II as well, but going back to the stock version fixed it there -- however I have been unable to transplant that version over to the Droid 4 with TitaniumBackup.
Videos are unwatchable, whether natively produced or on YouTube. They skip, hang, jerk and stutter.
Bluetooth has issues pairing with devices. I've sometimes been able to get things to pair after rebooting, sometimes not. And there's often an audio stutter in there until I reboot -- which seems like a memory problem again.
Wifi doesn't work after a soft reboot.
I tried a newer build (2/22/18) but it was just as bad if not worse. Same with an older 13.0 build. I think the reality here is that there's just not enough RAM to work with. If it had the full 1.0GB available to the OS (instead of the 834MB it actually has) it would probably alleviate these problems, but the video RAM is apparently shared and not discrete.
So my question is, can anyone recommend a well-behaved, solid-performing ROM for Droid 4?
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What did you expect? it is a ancient phone. Give Sailfish OS a try, or just run CM9 or CM11. If you want a bit newer go as high as CM12.1 or some other 5.1.1 rom. Stop trying to run 2017 software on a 2012 device. Personally I can't wait for my new Droid 4 to come in the mail so I can run Sailfish OS on it. My first goal will be getting alien dalvik to work, then perhaps making my own stable builds.
EDIT: Also about the 834MB of ram, the device does have 1GB of ram, it is just that part of it has been reserved for only system use. This avoids system crashes when you have a lot of apps open, and like you said some of it is also reserved for graphics related things.
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So my question is, can anyone recommend a well-behaved, solid-performing ROM for Droid 4?
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If you stay away from GApps, and use microG instead, everything works quite well (you can even use Play Store) with some Marshmallow and Nougat ROMs.
I'm using Mokee 60.1 (based on LOS 6.0.1) at the moment. With Xposed to enable Signature Spoofing for microG. Bluetooth, video, WLAN, no problem. Of course its slower than "modern" phones and sometimes hangs a bit. I have no experience with GoogleNow.
I'm testing crDroid 3.8.5 (based on LOS 7.1.2) now and I'm considering to change because it seems a bit snappier.
Hope this helps!
Thanks, I hadn't thought about it that way (Gapps being the problem more than the ROM) before. I tried Mokee a few days ago and it was too slow with the Gapps package I used, and I don't speak Mandarin so lots of the menus were... unenlightening to me. I am currently evaluating SlimKat (4.4) with a "normal" Gapps package and it is going really well so far. Just a few more things to test and if all goes well I'm dropping it in the stock slot.
My expectation was that once all the bloat was stripped out that the 13/14 versions would still run decently on this older hardware, but apparently not--even with a pico Gapps. I don't even like the newer versions anyway, and they offer me nothing more than KitKat with a whole lot less performance, so I'm happy to run a KitKat ROM if that is where the performance sweet spot is for a Droid 4... until a new QWERTY slider comes out. Any day now.
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My expectation was that once all the bloat was stripped out that the 13/14 versions would still run decently on this older hardware, but apparently not--even with a pico Gapps.
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OpenGapps really bring the performance down.
I use the Droid 4 with LOS 14.2 as my daily driver, but only with MicroG and the PlayStore app. I wrote about that here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/dr...epartition-t3676476/post73956388#post73956388
(The first step can now be replaced with installing XPosed and the FakeGapps module for XPosed. It wasn't available at the time I wrote the post above).
I also went into the privacy options and disabled background running and auto startup for almost every application except WhatsApp. Now the device runs smooth as butter.
Edit: Almost forgot, one of these overclocked kernels really bring a bit more performance:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-4/development/kernel-nougat-custom-droid-4-razr-oc-t3499366
It depends on how well the CPU inside your device has been manufactured, though. Mine runs very well at 1.4GHz with ultra low voltage - that's a lot more speed and a bit more battery life
That's interesting, I've got a spare for testing I'll try that out on.
I got the OC kernel running, but no luck trying to install microG. The only APK I could find for Xposed was blocked for downloading as "unsafe". Is there a list of valid links for all this somewhere?
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I got the OC kernel running, but no luck trying to install microG. The only APK I could find for Xposed was blocked for downloading as "unsafe". Is there a list of valid links for all this somewhere?
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Xposed: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811
Flash the appropriate zip-file depending on your Android version and install exposedinstaller3.1.5
reboot (probably not necessary)
Load FakeGapps module in Xposed to enable signature spoofing
wait for FakeGapps module to load then reboot
microG: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/microg-unofficial-installer-t3432360
Flash zip. Installs (latest version of) microG. Installs Playstore to the appropriate (system) directory and sets necessary permissions
If you use a ROM with built-in signature spoofing you don't need steps 1 - 4, just activate signature spoofing in the ROM's settings.
(e.g. crDroid. Note: Flash OC-Kernel and WLAN will work!)
To get things working:
launch microG settings
goto Self-Check
allow signature spoofing for microG by tapping on the text of the relevant menu item
reboot (probably not necessary)
in microG settings enable Google device registration
launch PlayStore and follow instructions to sign into your Google account
opening PlayStore probably fails with error RH-01
clear PlayStore app cache & reboot (sometimes force close PlayStore app is sufficient)
PlayStore should work now
Have fun
belrei said:
Flash the appropriate zip-file depending on your Android version and install exposedinstaller3.1.5
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Where is exposedinstaller3.1.5? I see only an uninstaller.
Load FakeGapps module in Xposed to enable signature spoofing
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How is FakeGapps module loaded in Xposed? I have installed Xposed v89 for SDK25 in SafeStrap but I see no way to configure anything about it.
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Where is exposedinstaller3.1.5? I see only an uninstaller.
How is FakeGapps module loaded in Xposed? I have installed Xposed v89 for SDK25 in SafeStrap but I see no way to configure anything about it.
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App (to load Xposed modules, - not to install the Xposed framework, this is done with the zip you flashed) see "Attached Files" at the end of the respective post (XposedInstaller_3.1.5.apk)
(the uninstaller you saw uninstalls the Xposed framework)
Xposed modules are loaded using the XposedInstaller app
Hope this helps
PS: changed from Mokee (Marshmallow) to crDroid 3.8.5 (Nougat) yesterday successfully. Much better performance. Some random reboots during app install (hope this will stop when everything is set up). Feels like a new phone.
belrei said:
PS: changed from Mokee (Marshmallow) to crDroid 3.8.5 (Nougat) yesterday successfully. Much better performance. Some random reboots during app install (hope this will stop when everything is set up). Feels like a new phone.
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Found it here, will give it a try today: https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-4/development/rom-crdroid-unofficial-n-t3668542
Got microG working with crDroid, looks pretty awesome so far. But I can't get signed in to Google Voice. Without that I'm dead in the water. I need Hangouts as well, and that reports that it needs Google Play Services which is not supported.
I went ahead and did a pico Gapps install, and crDroid actually works really well with it - far better than Lineage does, and then of course all the Google stuff I need to use is there. I'm testing it out with the OC kernel and it had occasional reboots with the ULV 1.4 OC, so I'm dropping back to the LV 1.4 instead to see if that smooths it out. Otherwise it's the best Nougat ROM I've tried yet on D4.
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Where is exposedinstaller3.1.5? I see only an uninstaller.
How is FakeGapps module loaded in Xposed? I have installed Xposed v89 for SDK25 in SafeStrap but I see no way to configure anything about it.
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It'd be so much easier and require much less steps if you just ran Sailfish OS
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My first goal will be getting alien dalvik to work, then perhaps making my own stable builds.
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Hi Galaxyninja66,
I've been using SFOS since the Droid 4 version became available, and I love it. On the whole, I manage fine without Android apps, but there are 1 or 2 it would be very useful to have. I had a go at getting AD working, and I seemed to have it set up correctly, but I wasn't able to launch anything If you do get it working, and you get a moment, could you let me know what you did please?
Thanks
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Hi Galaxyninja66,
I've been using SFOS since the Droid 4 version became available, and I love it. On the whole, I manage fine without Android apps, but there are 1 or 2 it would be very useful to have. I had a go at getting AD working, and I seemed to have it set up correctly, but I wasn't able to launch anything If you do get it working, and you get a moment, could you let me know what you did please?
Thanks
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Sure thing. On a side note, how stable is it with GSM international? I live in Ausfailia so the US block shouldn't effect me (at least until I move back). Can you list all the issues you are having with it (the rom in general)?
Does QWRTY work okay on the keyboard?
Does the FM Radio work?
Have they made any progress with bluetooth?
What about this battery issue where it doesn't read the level right?
I want to know it all as I will most likely try to start building this myself.
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Sure thing. On a side note, how stable is it with GSM international? I live in Ausfailia so the US block shouldn't effect me (at least until I move back). Can you list all the issues you are having with it (the rom in general)?
Does QWRTY work okay on the keyboard?
Does the FM Radio work?
Have they made any progress with bluetooth?
What about this battery issue where it doesn't read the level right?
I want to know it all as I will most likely try to start building this myself.
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Hi,
That's great, thanks.
I've had no issues with GSM apart from data not working immediately after flashing - you just have to install an app called 'Ofono Log', and select the 'Enable Data' option, and from then on it's fine.
No issues with the keyboard - if the keyboard is open it uses it, and if not, you get the virtual keyboard. I mostly use mine with the keyboard open, as I like a physical keyboard.
I haven't tried FM radio, but will give it a go and let you know.
As far as I know, bluetooth isn't working, but I don't really have any use for it. I will give it a quick go though, and let you know.
The battery thing is a nuisance, but it doesn't really bother me that much. Usually, it only happens after a reboot, so if you don't reboot, you don't usually have a problem. Occasionally, it'll just happen though, and when it does, you just have to reboot a few times until you get a proper reading.
On the whole, it works really well, and I can't think of any other issues I have with SFOS itself. Lack of a decent browser is my main annoyance. I really like the built in browser, but (I think) it's built on a very unstable version of Firefox, and tends to keep doing weird things and you have to keep killing it and starting it up again. There's Webcat too, but I'm not too keen on that, and would sooner put up with the problems with the built in browser.
I'lll edit this when I've tried FM/bluetooth, or if I think of anything else...
Thanks
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Hi,
That's great, thanks.
I've had no issues with GSM apart from data not working immediately after flashing - you just have to install an app called 'Ofono Log', and select the 'Enable Data' option, and from then on it's fine.
No issues with the keyboard - if the keyboard is open it uses it, and if not, you get the virtual keyboard. I mostly use mine with the keyboard open, as I like a physical keyboard.
I haven't tried FM radio, but will give it a go and let you know.
As far as I know, bluetooth isn't working, but I don't really have any use for it. I will give it a quick go though, and let you know.
The battery thing is a nuisance, but it doesn't really bother me that much. Usually, it only happens after a reboot, so if you don't reboot, you don't usually have a problem. Occasionally, it'll just happen though, and when it does, you just have to reboot a few times until you get a proper reading.
On the whole, it works really well, and I can't think of any other issues I have with SFOS itself. Lack of a decent browser is my main annoyance. I really like the built in browser, but (I think) it's built on a very unstable version of Firefox, and tends to keep doing weird things and you have to keep killing it and starting it up again. There's Webcat too, but I'm not too keen on that, and would sooner put up with the problems with the built in browser.
I'lll edit this when I've tried FM/bluetooth, or if I think of anything else...
Thanks
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If there is just a lack of FM radio app that means the qt fm radio app isn't in the patterns.
I can't wait for my Droid 4 to finally get here so i can have a keyboard device!
Does the keyboard backlight work?
Do the homekeys stay off?
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If there is just a lack of FM radio app that means the qt fm radio app isn't in the patterns.
I can't wait for my Droid 4 to finally get here so i can have a keyboard device!
Does the keyboard backlight work?
Do the homekeys stay off?
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Yeah, it's a good phone.
The keyboard backlight does work, but you have to set it up yourself - it's in the TMO thread, but I can give you the details if you need them.
Not sure what you mean by 'the homekeys stay off'? If you let me know I'll test.
Will let you know about FM radio and bluetooth sometime today (my time)...
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Yeah, it's a good phone.
The keyboard backlight does work, but you have to set it up yourself - it's in the TMO thread, but I can give you the details if you need them.
Not sure what you mean by 'the homekeys stay off'? If you let me know I'll test.
Will let you know about FM radio and bluetooth sometime today (my time)...
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I mean does the hardware key backlight stay one? you know, home menu search back keys.