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[Q] S-off

Do I unlock my bootloader using HTC.com website or should I wait for a developer to create a S-Off method? do we really need S-Off?

mikevillarroel said:
Do I unlock my bootloader using HTC.com website or should I wait for a developer to create a S-Off method? do we really need S-Off?
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S-Off doesn't really have much use on this phone. Since it's Qualcomm, kernels can be flashed in recovery anyway, and the only real reason for S-Off would be to downgrade to previous firmwares.

MacHackz said:
S-Off doesn't really have much use on this phone. Since it's Qualcomm, kernels can be flashed in recovery anyway, and the only real reason for S-Off would be to downgrade to previous firmwares.
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so if I use HTC.com to unlock it, I will be able to flash roms and stuff from recovery as normally I do with my HTC 4G LTE ?(been doing it with the EVO and EVO 3D also)

i think the s-off method is preferable above HTCdev.
Warranty wise that is.
if you are s-off you won't be registered @ HTC for having unlocked your bootloader and thus reduced your warranty...

mikevillarroel said:
so if I use HTC.com to unlock it, I will be able to flash roms and stuff from recovery as normally I do with my HTC 4G LTE ?(been doing it with the EVO and EVO 3D also)
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what if you don't want htc to know that you are rooting your phone for warranty purposes
any way of doing this? anyone working on s-off?

No idea if the phone has had a chance to reach anyone outside of the EU (and slow roll out even over here.)
I'm guessing that when the phone is in the hands of a lot more people the race will be on to be the 1st to deliver s-off.
Until there's a desperate need for me to flash an updated radio or maybe a bootloader I don't appear to need it though.
Sent from my Tricked out 2.4.0 HTC One via xda-developers application

mox123 said:
what if you don't want htc to know that you are rooting your phone for warranty purposes
any way of doing this? anyone working on s-off?
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Until there has been worldwide release of the phone I doubt anybody will of even started work on it. I'd assume we might heard word of it about June time? Regarding people working on it that is.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk 2

Stuck on relocked bootloader

Hey guys,
A couple of days ago I recieved my One after I sent it for repairs.
They fixed my camera issue but changed my phone back to s-on. So now i'm left with a relocked phone with s-on.
I can't seem to re-unlock my phone by using htc's unlocking guide. After flashing the token it doesn't go into unlocking mode.
So i need some help with that. I'm on hboot 1.56 and 4.4 stock sense. Not rooted. Stock recovery.
Htcdev isnt able to help me so i completely rely on you guys.
Golden tip means a nice cold one.
Cheers

bamidrol said:
Hey guys,
A couple of days ago I recieved my One after I sent it for repairs.
They fixed my camera issue but changed my phone back to s-on. So now i'm left with a relocked phone with s-on.
I can't seem to re-unlock my phone by using htc's unlocking guide. After flashing the token it doesn't go into unlocking mode.
So i need some help with that. I'm on hboot 1.56 and 4.4 stock sense. Not rooted. Stock recovery.
Htcdev isnt able to help me so i completely rely on you guys.
Golden tip means a nice cold one.
Cheers
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have u got a new unlock token or is it the same one as u used earlier? If u are using the same, I guess it may not work coz of the newer hboot. why don't u try getting a new token using another email id and trying the unlock bootloader process.
Also, it would be better if u uploaded a snapshot of the error message

Thanks for helping me. I have already tried 4 new tokens on different emails. I'm not getting any error message. It flashes succesfully.
But the "Unlock mode" doesnt pop up. It did when i unlocked it the first time.
Believe me when i say that i tried everything known to men ^^.
cheers

bamidrol said:
Thanks for helping me. I have already tried 4 new tokens on different emails. I'm not getting any error message. It flashes succesfully.
But the "Unlock mode" doesnt pop up. It did when i unlocked it the first time.
Believe me when i say that i tried everything known to men ^^.
cheers
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btw how did u get 2 stock 4.4? Apart from the dev edition handsets, which all versions have got the stock 4.4 update?
im giving my One for the purple tint camera issue. I hope HTC doesn't do something to prevent me also from re-unlocking

raghav kapur said:
btw how did u get 2 stock 4.4? Apart from the dev edition handsets, which all versions have got the stock 4.4 update?
im giving my One for the purple tint camera issue. I hope HTC doesn't do something to prevent me also from re-unlocking
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I just flashed the stock 4.3 dev edition. OTA updated to 4.4.
I dont know what they will do. Probably update it to the most recent version.
U have any idea how to solve this issue i'm having?

bamidrol said:
I just flashed the stock 4.3 dev edition. OTA updated to 4.4.
I dont know what they will do. Probably update it to the most recent version.
U have any idea how to solve this issue i'm having?
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no idea bro. will definitely keep u posted if I do. All the best
last shot: try using the toolkit
http://www.mediafire.com/download/18hczgs6dlc9kvk/HTC+One+Toolkit+-+2.2.zip

raghav kapur said:
no idea bro. will definitely keep u posted if I do. All the best
last shot: try using the toolkit
http://www.mediafire.com/download/18hczgs6dlc9kvk/HTC+One+Toolkit+-+2.2.zip
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Already tried the toolkit 1000 times. It's hopeless..... Htcdev is now compiling a completely unique token for me.
Got a guy internally over there who takes care of unlocking issues. So i'm hoping for the best.
Cheers

Got the same problem.
New phone I'm afraid.
Or a VERY slim chance of an ruu, but I doubt that as I've already reflashed the firmware, and an ruu would only add system and data to that.
Don't have the option for an ruu anyway as I'm on 3.62.401 that or something newer isn't available.
So.. if you're guy sorts it I'd love to know how.

backfromthestorm said:
Got the same problem.
New phone I'm afraid.
Or a VERY slim chance of an ruu, but I doubt that as I've already reflashed the firmware, and an ruu would only add system and data to that.
Don't have the option for an ruu anyway as I'm on 3.62.401 that or something newer isn't available.
So.. if you're guy sorts it I'd love to know how.
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Yeah its a very weird issue. My guy sent my issue to their bootloader devs. They are now compiling some sort of RUU that will completely reset my phone to when if came out of the factory. So that means: New bootloader, s-on and locked. I really hope it works since this is driving me crazy.
Ofc i will let you know if it works. I also asked @mike1986. for his help. He's kinda the god of The One.
Cheers

Cool.. what firmware you on? Model etc..

[Q] Can anyone confirm if the new update blocks any S-Off or TempRoot hacks?

So, my still rooted and S-On Sprint HTC M8 just received a notification that an update is available.
I AM going to eventually root and s-off this thing, but I am going to be going on a few trips soon so I figured it would be best to wait until after just in case something goes wrong so I won't be out of a phone while not at home.
Just wanted to know if anybody can confirm if the current firewater S-Off and/or Weaksauce temproot methods still work if you install these on an unmodified Sprint M8.

Cyber Akuma said:
So, my still rooted and S-On Sprint HTC M8 just received a notification that an update is available.
I AM going to eventually root and s-off this thing, but I am going to be going on a few trips soon so I figured it would be best to wait until after just in case something goes wrong so I won't be out of a phone while not at home.
Just wanted to know if anybody can confirm if the current firewater S-Off and/or Weaksauce temproot methods still work if you install these on an unmodified Sprint M8.
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I think you're rolling the dice there. Even if you find one that can be S-Off'd with the new firmware on it that doesn't necessarily mean that the next person will get the same result as we have seen phones that are identical in software and firmware both fail and succeed at obtaining S-Off. In short, I think the it's always great to get a sampling of results but I do not believe we would be able to make any accurate conclusions, regarding S-Off anyway, from the data.
I suppose I am interested in knowing whether even a single M8 with the new firmware is able to S-Off with firewater but that's just the curiousity inside me.^^

slimbrady said:
I think you're rolling the dice there. Even if you find one that can be S-Off'd with the new firmware on it that doesn't necessarily mean that the next person will get the same result as we have seen phones that are identical in software and firmware both fail and succeed at obtaining S-Off. In short, I think the it's always great to get a sampling of results but I do not believe we would be able to make any accurate conclusions, regarding S-Off anyway, from the data.
I suppose I am interested in knowing whether even a single M8 with the new firmware is able to S-Off with firewater but that's just the curiousity inside me.^^
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Well, I'm about to give up on achieving S-Off. Being that I don't tinker with my device the way that I messed around with my previous device, I might be throwing in the towel. I'm possibly even giving up root. This is my first device that truly didn't need to be rooted.
But then again....there's free tethering....

AarSyl said:
This is my first device that truly didn't need to be rooted.
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The whole **** with how KitKat limits your SD card access alone is enough to get me to root.

Cyber Akuma said:
The whole **** with how KitKat limits your SD card access alone is enough to get me to root.
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Riiight....forgot about that.
Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk

Go root or go home. (Sorry, couldn't resist)
If you're already at home....well...you're cheating and you should feel bad....so bad that you might as well root anyway because things can't get much worse for you!

Just to let you all know....
Went back to a stock Rom, locked my bootloader, then received the .13 update(could only find .9 stock to use) then the .15 update and was able to unlock my bootloader again with the same .bin file I received from HTCDev, flash a custom Rom, and restore my root with no problems at all.
Tried Firewater again for the heck of it and it actually chugged one bottle....but then whelped me again! =/

slimbrady said:
Just to let you all know....
Went back to a stock Rom, locked my bootloader, then received the .13 update(could only find .9 stock to use) then the .15 update and was able to unlock my bootloader again with the same .bin file I received from HTCDev, flash a custom Rom, and restore my root with no problems at all.
Tried Firewater again for the heck of it and it actually chugged one bottle....but then whelped me again! =/
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For next time, I don't think you need to lock the bootloader to receive the OTA.

rhe12 said:
For next time, I don't think you need to lock the bootloader to receive the OTA.
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Hmm well I'd done everything else except for that and it failed so locked it and it worked. Maybe it was just a fluke but either way only took a couple seconds to both lock and unlock again. =)
Edit: Yeah pretty sure you do have to lock it if you're stuck S-On like I am. S-Off most definitely doesn't need to though.

slimbrady said:
Just to let you all know....
Went back to a stock Rom, locked my bootloader, then received the .13 update(could only find .9 stock to use) then the .15 update and was able to unlock my bootloader again with the same .bin file I received from HTCDev, flash a custom Rom, and restore my root with no problems at all.
Tried Firewater again for the heck of it and it actually chugged one bottle....but then whelped me again! =/
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Has the new radio helped your reception?
I can't s-off either. Big pain to go stock to get OTA's.

Wait, I admit I haven't kept up much on S-Off news, so you mean it's random if your M8 will be able to S-Off or not?

im also failed when want to s-off
how i want to unlock gsm my sprint harman kardon edition if cannot s-off ?
is there any method to unlock gsm without s-off ?

comstar said:
Has the new radio helped your reception?
I can't s-off either. Big pain to go stock to get OTA's.
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Well I noticed that in certain areas I actuallly start picking up the Spark network where I never exceeded 3G speeds in the past so that is somewhat exciting. Didn't really have any reception issues persay previously but I would say it has been slightly improved overall.....or at least it seems that way to me. Could just be towers too I suppose but meh =)
Cyber Akuma said:
Wait, I admit I haven't kept up much on S-Off news, so you mean it's random if your M8 will be able to S-Off or not?
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Pretty much....We've discounted "batches" being the case by virtue of serial number comparisons and, as far as I am aware, no one has been able to identify any kind of pattern to it.
You would think that the newer the phone the less likely you could s-off with it...and perhaps that is the case....but we've seen people as recent as this week go in and get one, take it home and firewater s-off with it while I've had mine for much longer and can't...maybe the ones people are getting were sitting around for a long time I guess...All pretty much educated (or not educated) guessing at this point.

[Q] [S-OFF] HTC One M7 S-Off question?

Hey everyone, i am new to this XDA developers site, but have many years of experience with android devices, my latest one though, well is the htc one, i would like to know, is there any risk to using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Command, i am just wondering this because i would like to unlock the full capability of this wonderful device, and i only have it a week or two, so i would not like to damage the device by only having it 2 weeks, i love it, but would like to unlock the full potential of it, and i also love sense and stock android, so would be seriously interested.
Bottom Line, Is there any risk of using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Tool?
Thanks very much,
Ir1shwall3.

Ir1shWall3 said:
Hey everyone, i am new to this XDA developers site, but have many years of experience with android devices, my latest one though, well is the htc one, i would like to know, is there any risk to using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Command, i am just wondering this because i would like to unlock the full capability of this wonderful device, and i only have it a week or two, so i would not like to damage the device by only having it 2 weeks, i love it, but would like to unlock the full potential of it, and i also love sense and stock android, so would be seriously interested.
Bottom Line, Is there any risk of using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Tool?
Thanks very much,
Ir1shwall3.
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nope, no risk, either it will work or it wont, if it fails then there is a new one called Sunshine s-off which apparently works on the M7 but you have to pay for it, try firewater first.

I'm still not persuaded, I'm afraid it will harm it and damage my device, maybe I'll do it in the future, but thanks very much for your reply, I gave you a thanks on your answer?
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Free mobile app

Ir1shWall3 said:
I'm still not persuaded, I'm afraid it will harm it and damage my device, maybe I'll do it in the future, but thanks very much for your reply, I gave you a thanks on your answer?
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Free mobile app
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like I said, it wont hurt it at all, it will either work or it wont, read the s-off thread if you don't believe me, ive ran it 50 times to try and get s-off and ended up doing it by java card because firewater failed. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2632351
that was before sunshine came about, if I was still s-on, I would hesitate to pay for and run sunshine right now.

Ir1shWall3 said:
Hey everyone, i am new to this XDA developers site, but have many years of experience with android devices, my latest one though, well is the htc one, i would like to know, is there any risk to using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Command, i am just wondering this because i would like to unlock the full capability of this wonderful device, and i only have it a week or two, so i would not like to damage the device by only having it 2 weeks, i love it, but would like to unlock the full potential of it, and i also love sense and stock android, so would be seriously interested.
Bottom Line, Is there any risk of using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Tool?
Thanks very much,
Ir1shwall3.
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having S-Off etc is the best ever i have done on my htc couldnt imagine now to have s-on again its the ultimate lol.
firewater works however it did take quite some trys back-then before it succeeded, i did alot of reading before i decided
wanting having s-off, pros/cons but conclusion now and after the reading before s-off was a no-brainer (for me)
i remember having the same thoughts to about the bricking but after reading through many topics here and other sites
i wasent that scared of it mostly nervous if it worked or not xD as the guy above says, either it works or not. for me it took many tries to as said, but ones having s-off
you wont look back i believe i guess its a preference since we all have our personal favorite if wanting s-on or off.
i would "advice" reading more through about using firewater getting inputs, i had same thoughts as you with using it at first as long with rooting etc
and i never knew or tried those things actually before i joined this awesome forum and started to use it regular. i see you are quite into the android
from your text to thats good advantage and should help as well with choosing to use or not
im aware of my low post count xD but i dont post/reply just to get posts up, only if im able to give input there may help in some way
either way, wishing you goodluck if you decided to go for it!
hah as Seanie280672 says to it might take alot of tries, its just keep going eventually it should succeed

Thanksks for the information, so it will not brick or will there be very little chance of bricking?
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Free mobile app

Ir1shWall3 said:
Thanksks for the information, so it will not brick or will there be very little chance of bricking?
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Free mobile app
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just remember s-off actually means security off and opens up the nand to full write, its no longer protected.
therefore if you try to flash something that's not for your particular device, it will no longer fail with an error, it will flash and brick your device, s-off itself doesn't brick, the user bricks by flashing the wrong things, so make sure you know what you are doing before you go s-off, if you don't really need it, or don't know what you are doing then don't bother, there's so many users on here that don't actually know how to even identify their correct RUU for instance, and that's simple stuff, but downloading the wrong one and flashing parts of it that don't belong to your phone = a brick, but again, that's the user, not s-off.
on the other hand however, s-off can help you out a lot, take a look at the below thread, he flashed the wrong software whilst s-on and has knackered his phone up, if he was s-off then it would be easily fixable with a simple downgrade of HBOOT, but because he's s-on he now has a brick: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/help-active-cmdline-overflow-1025-bytes-t2841484

S-off is complete control of your phone. Which is the dangerous part. The process to s-off is simple and will not brick you. Just be sure to remember your model ID (like mine is M7_wlv) because all ruu files will state what model number it is and for what firmware.
The reason to want s-off? Search your specific device's ruu files and see if there is one for your version or high that is officially signed by HTC. If there is none, you will want s-off to downgrade or flash the unsigned ruu. As S-on, you cannot downgrade firmware or flash unsigned ruus
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Guys I have an international HTC one with latest ota update and h -boot(1.57.0). If I decide to leave it s-on will I be able to change os from sense to cm. I'm worried that my phone might get a kernel problem since I always had to flash the boot img to get another Rom working...just want to know if I'll be able to flash all Rome below or above my current firmware?

yasir4abbas said:
Guys I have an international HTC one with latest ota update and h -boot(1.57.0). If I decide to leave it s-on will I be able to change os from sense to cm. I'm worried that my phone might get a kernel problem since I always had to flash the boot img to get another Rom working...just want to know if I'll be able to flash all Rome below or above my current firmware?
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you can flash any custom rom as long as its for your phone, even if your s-on, you just have to be HTC Dev unlocked, just make sure its for your phone and read the OP and instructions, the guy who bricked his recently flashed CM11 designed for a completely different phone and the kernel messed one of his partitions up, he didn't read the details and instructions, it couldn't be fixed because he wasn't s-off, the fix only works if your on HBOOT 1.44 and you cant downgrade that without s-off.

yasir4abbas said:
Guys I have an international HTC one with latest ota update and h -boot(1.57.0). If I decide to leave it s-on will I be able to change os from sense to cm. I'm worried that my phone might get a kernel problem since I always had to flash the boot img to get another Rom working...just want to know if I'll be able to flash all Rome below or above my current firmware?
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Yeah, as long as the software is for your device it will be perfect, but you'll need to know the actual model number of your device, mine is m7_ul, but yours might be just m7, so be weary of what yours is, the best way of finding this out is going into the bootloader and looking at the first characters on the first line, i'm good at all this stuff, its that im just weary of making my device an expensive piece of metal and glass, if you need help, you can always send me a message

Ir1shWall3 said:
Yeah, as long as the software is for your device it will be perfect, but you'll need to know the actual model number of your device, mine is m7_ul, but yours might be just m7, so be weary of what yours is, the best way of finding this out is going into the bootloader and looking at the first characters on the first line, i'm good at all this stuff, its that im just weary of making my device an expensive piece of metal and glass, if you need help, you can always send me a message
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that's not completely true, a custom rom built for M7_UL will work just fine on the M7_U, they are the same device, just one has LTE and the other doesn't, just means those parts of the rom wont be installed.
the only rom's you cant use are HTC ONE M7 custom rom';s built for Spirint and Verizon devices.

Seanie280672 said:
that's not completely true, a custom rom built for M7_UL will work just fine on the M7_U, they are the same device, just one has LTE and the other doesn't, just means those parts of the rom wont be installed.
the only rom's you cant use are HTC ONE M7 custom rom';s built for Spirint and Verizon devices.
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Ah right! I guess the ul has 4G? You learn something new everyday!

[Q] Sprint HTC M8 (4.4.4) Root?

Alright, so a friend came to me with an M8. It appears to be fully updated and is running 4.4.4 android. I was able to unlock the bootloader, and I have TWRP installed. However, every time I flash Superuser.zip, it says it works but does nothing. So, since I see lots of roms, I guess its possible to have root, but how to I obtain it? Been working on this for an hour and a half and cannot find a logical way that works.

First off to help @BD619 this thread needs to be posted in the Q&A section which is set there to prevent this post. Secondly, s-on or s-off? Did you try installing a rom with Root preinstalled? Did you try root checker from play store to verify root was installed?

Sorry!
Just mis posted. My bad.
S-On. Cannot seem to get S-Off either. Mainly just trying to sim unlock it and what I have found says that requires s-off which requires root. Lost. Not at all like my old S3 or EVO 4G. LOL! Those rooted no issue.

scothern99 said:
Sorry!
Just mis posted. My bad.
S-On. Cannot seem to get S-Off either. Mainly just trying to sim unlock it and what I have found says that requires s-off which requires root. Lost. Not at all like my old S3 or EVO 4G. LOL! Those rooted no issue.
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Sunshine s off is the best bet to s-off. Download their app, and from what it sounds, you are pretty close to stock anyways! You will most definately need to do more research on the sim unlock, thats a subject i never mess with. Good luck!!!

Well I am doing this for a friend and I am not spending any money. If anyone knows of at least a root, that gets me further.