Im getting my new ATT 32GB Moto X on Monday and after flashing my Samsung Galaxy S3 into the ground I thought I would leave the Moto X running the stock ROM for a while but rooted.
My question is, in reading some of the threads it looks like I will have to re-root after every Kit Kat update pushed out from Motorola, is this the case? Is there a method that will add root privileges back after the phone reboots from the update? Lastly, any suggestion on what root procedure is working the best?
thedunes said:
Im getting my new ATT 32GB Moto X on Monday and after flashing my Samsung Galaxy S3 into the ground I thought I would leave the Moto X running the stock ROM for a while but rooted.
My question is, in reading some of the threads it looks like I will have to re-root after every Kit Kat update pushed out from Motorola, is this the case? Is there a method that will add root privileges back after the phone reboots from the update? Lastly, any suggestion on what root procedure is working the best?
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Can we assume you bought the consumer version ? If so, looks like your SOL. Root method only works up to 4.4.
If you bought the DE veraion ? Root is straight forward as unlocking your bootloader , flashing recovery
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Yes I did purchase the consumer version so it does look like I am SOL. Thanks for the quick reply.
thedunes said:
Yes I did purchase the consumer version so it does look like I am SOL. Thanks for the quick reply.
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ATM but you never know jcase might just have something up Hus sleeve, if you are still on 4.4 you can still root with slapmymoto and pawnmymoto which might break yourmoto
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I've had my xt1060 developer edition for a week now and have taken the 4.4 update. Before I go any further with this thing I'm trying to get a solid handle on upgrading and downgrading firmware...
- What I have gathered to date is that no phones with unlocked bootloaders can be downgraded without potentially bricking the phone, with the exception of the VZ 4.4 to 4.2.2 camera fix due to bootloader revision. Is this true even for the developer edition? Common sense tells me a developer phone should be able to run any version of stock firmware for "developer" purposes.
- In my reading I'm thinking there may be bootloader free flashable updates, e.g. android update 4.3 for the GS3. Is this true? As I can't seem to locate what I believe to be a stock firmware for the VZ edition.
- At this point with the released firmwares being pretty bare there really isn't a reason to want to downgrade but who knows what the future may hold, again look what Samsung and VZ did to us GS3 owners with the 4.3 release.
I'm thinking many of the issues posted are from people cross flashing firmware, avoiding doing this makes sense to me especially for an incremental upgrade.
I have to say that I feel information is inconsistent and hard to follow due to all of the different carrier and bootloaders. I assumed this phone would be similar to my old GNex when it came to flashing but it apparently is not nearly as forgiving.
Finally, am I missing any critical "must know" information?
Thanks
edthesped said:
I've had my xt1060 developer edition for a week now and have taken the 4.4 update. Before I go any further with this thing I'm trying to get a solid handle on upgrading and downgrading firmware...
- What I have gathered to date is that no phones with unlocked bootloaders can be downgraded without potentially bricking the phone, with the exception of the VZ 4.4 to 4.2.2 camera fix due to bootloader revision. Is this true even for the developer edition? Common sense tells me a developer phone should be able to run any version of stock firmware for "developer" purposes.
- In my reading I'm thinking there may be bootloader free flashable updates, e.g. android update 4.3 for the GS3. Is this true? As I can't seem to locate what I believe to be a stock firmware for the VZ edition.
- At this point with the released firmwares being pretty bare there really isn't a reason to want to downgrade but who knows what the future may hold, again look what Samsung and VZ did to us GS3 owners with the 4.3 release.
I'm thinking many of the issues posted are from people cross flashing firmware, avoiding doing this makes sense to me especially for an incremental upgrade.
I have to say that I feel information is inconsistent and hard to follow due to all of the different carrier and bootloaders. I assumed this phone would be similar to my old GNex when it came to flashing but it apparently is not nearly as forgiving.
Finally, am I missing any critical "must know" information?
Thanks
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Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
All unlock boot loader motos are in the same boat, even DE variants
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flashallthetime said:
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
All unlock boot loader motos are in the same boat, even DE variants
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How'd I miss that!?
IDK
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Hey everybody.
Ive read up on everything.
I just got my moto x a few days ago and it came with 4.4.2.
Root Motorola Moto X Kitkat 4.4.2/4.4: http://youtu.be/CU6JA3tWY1g
Is this legit or fake because im trying to root. Ive heard it aint possible for 4.4.2
atrix2man said:
Hey everybody.
Ive read up on everything.
I just got my moto x a few days ago and it came with 4.4.2.
Root Motorola Moto X Kitkat 4.4.2/4.4: http://youtu.be/CU6JA3tWY1g
Is this legit or fake because im trying to root. Ive heard it aint possible for 4.4.2
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It is totally possible, but you'll have to unlock your bootloader, on 4.4.2 there's no way of rooting without doing it
hlaraujo said:
It is totally possible, but you'll have to unlock your bootloader, on 4.4.2 there's no way of rooting without doing it
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This ^^^^
If you can unlock your bootloader, your set! If you can't, not happening. Sorry.
You can try the Chinese fellow who is selling unlock codes, if yours can't be at moto site. 45 dollars. If your phone is on his list.
Good luck!
Thank yall. Ill see what i can do :good:
I am currently rooted running Android 4.4 on my XT1060 with a locked bootloader. Can I upgrade to a newer version of android and keep root?
bobo-the-drunk said:
I am currently rooted running Android 4.4 on my XT1060 with a locked bootloader. Can I upgrade to a newer version of android and keep root?
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The short answer is no. You can not update past 4.4 and have permanent root and write-protect-disable.
The LONG answer is that IF (and only if) you never took the OTA to 4.4.2, there IS a way to run a "Stock-based, Safestrap-compatible 4.4.2 ROM".
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/rom-vzw-rooted-4-4-2-locked-bootloaders-t2672840
You will have to follow the instructions linked in that post EXACTLY. One simple mistake, and you will either:
1. Have a BRICK
or
2. Lose write-protect-disable and permanent root -forever-
Be extremely careful if you decide to do this, and realize that you won't -actually- be on 4.4.2 as you will still be running on the pre-4.4.2 bootloader and gpt.bin.
Good Luck
That's exactly what I wanted to know! Thanks for the speedy response. Hopefully with 4.4.4 coming out soon, someone will find a way to unlock the non-developer Moto X bootloader and give non-Google/Motorola developers real access to this great device!
bobo-the-drunk said:
That's exactly what I wanted to know! Thanks for the speedy response. Hopefully with 4.4.4 coming out soon, someone will find a way to unlock the non-developer Moto X bootloader and give non-Google/Motorola developers real access to this great device!
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You might want to consider checking the thread titled "China Middleman Back?"
This guy is selling bootloader unlock codes for the locked variants including verizon. It is Extremely unlikely that a bootloader-unlock exploit will EVER come along for the X....like 99.99% unlikely. Dan Rosenburg, author the the famous "Razr M bootloader exploit" has said himself that chances are almost zero that anyone will ever exploit these extremely well-coded bootloaders.
The China method costs $45, and he may or may not have your code, but its worth a shot! If he doesn't have your code, you get refunded. So no risk really. The bootloader-unlock is permanent and is FAR superior to using these exploits and safestrap-roms.
Good Luck, glad to help.
Are people still working on cracking the AT&T G870A or is it a lost cause?
If yes, how's it going?
I had a G870F but sent it swimming on 20m deep for three weeks. Needless to say it didn't survive.
Found the G870A and thought it was a bargain, however . . .
Pretty much a lost cause, most devs have moved on.
So the answer is not so straight forward. The current v 5.1 and above for the AT&T phones are not currently rootable. If you find a used or remanufactured S5 or S5 Active with 4.2 you will be in luck. I just had a problem with my Active found a replacement on the most popular buying and selling web site for around $230. Just make sure it has not been updated. If the seller is advertising it as 4.2 and you get it with 5.0 they must take it back if it's not what was advertised. Hope this helps.
If you want an S5 to tinker with you should get a tmobile variant the SM-G900T, or the international SM-G900M since the active model is basically a carrier exclusive they dont have any international ones that im aware of.
I dont understand the question of OP
I used a popular search and found rooted firmwares for the 870A.
Several people who replied have in their sigs that they have a rooted s5 Active..... I would think that to mean the phone has been "cracked" and isn't a lost cause.
darthmalus said:
If you want an S5 to tinker with you should get a tmobile variant the SM-G900T, or the international SM-G900M since the active model is basically a carrier exclusive they dont have any international ones that im aware of.
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Thanks, but I have bought the phone already. If I get another one or replace the one I have it'll probably be a European, G870F, the same modell I had before.
dosmastr said:
I dont understand the question of OP
I used a popular search and found rooted firmwares for the 870A.
Several people who replied have in their sigs that they have a rooted s5 Active..... I would think that to mean the phone has been "cracked" and isn't a lost cause.
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You could have rooted before 5.0. If you have the latest bootloader, it can't be done. That is why I suggested getting one that has pre 5.0 stock 4.4.2.
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Sgt.CM said:
You could have rooted before 5.0. If you have the latest bootloader, it can't be done. That is why I suggested getting one that has pre 5.0 stock 4.4.2.
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so its isn't the android version per say bu the bootloader that comes with it?
So one couldn't just flash a 5.0 firmware, is that what you're also saying?
pardon my ignorance, but when one flashes a firmware -- that wont impact the bootloader will it...
poop... i just got one of those and I'm all excited to get the att crap off there and see how much faster it gets... not to mention all the other things you can't run without root.... this ebay "deal" keeps getting worse....
dosmastr said:
so its isn't the android version per say bu the bootloader that comes with it?
So one couldn't just flash a 5.0 firmware, is that what you're also saying?
pardon my ignorance, but when one flashes a firmware -- that wont impact the bootloader will it...
poop... i just got one of those and I'm all excited to get the att crap off there and see how much faster it gets... not to mention all the other things you can't run without root.... this ebay "deal" keeps getting worse....
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When you update the firmware, it automatically updates the bootloader. Once that bootloader has been updated, it's locked down. No downgrading firmwares, rooting, or installing custom recoveries.
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stew1411 said:
When you update the firmware, it automatically updates the bootloader. Once that bootloader has been updated, it's locked down. No downgrading firmwares, rooting, or installing custom recoveries.
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Yeah, that's basically what I gathered after a lot of research online.
Some claim it can be done but when trying the method/software, it doesn't work.
I just wanted to double check since there is a lot of expert knowledge in this forum.
One thing i've been thinking though (not that I can do it): how about picking the phone apart
and wiping/replacing the bootloader manually?
North of the wall said:
Yeah, that's basically what I gathered after a lot of research online.
Some claim it can be done but when trying the method/software, it doesn't work.
I just wanted to double check since there is a lot of expert knowledge in this forum.
One thing i've been thinking though (not that I can do it): how about picking the phone apart
and wiping/replacing the bootloader manually?
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Well it's soldered to the board. You would need some highly specialized equipment to do it. Even then I'm not sure.
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Is this the case with both the G900A and the G870A. I'm in the market for either one since they are going for just of $200 new on Ebay. Are both phones now locked down of is the Active more problematic?
Both are locked down. AT&T and Samsung are being jerks to us and not even letting us have a developer phone to try to use like Verizon had.
roserez said:
Is this the case with both the G900A and the G870A. I'm in the market for either one since they are going for just of $200 new on Ebay. Are both phones now locked down of is the Active more problematic?
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If you are looking to root, then buy one that still has Android v4.4.2. They are available you just have to look for them. Don't put the SIM card in until you root or it will auto update and you can't go back.
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If you are looking to root, then buy one that still has Android v4.4.2. They are available you just have to look for them. Don't put the SIM card in until you root or it will auto update and you can't go back.
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Hi Sgt.CM,
I got my AT&T S5 on release day and never updated it. I have a SM-G900A with Android version 4.4.2! Is it possible for me to put CM13 with marshmallow 6.0.1 on there? I had assumed it was impossible...
Thanks,
Frozen
FrozenClear said:
Hi Sgt.CM,
I got my AT&T S5 on release day and never updated it. I have a SM-G900A with Android version 4.4.2! Is it possible for me to put CM13 with marshmallow 6.0.1 on there? I had assumed it was impossible...
Thanks,
Frozen
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Nope can't because of locked bootloader. The best thing you could do is too root with towelroot and then flash safestrap and install a custom rom from there.
NavSad said:
Nope can't because of locked bootloader. The best thing you could do is too root with towelroot and then flash safestrap and install a custom rom from there.
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That is what I thought. What are the custom rom options? Is there a rooted marshmallow rom for the s5 i can install?
Also according to these articles it is possible:
http://rootmygalaxy.net/install-cm-13-rom-on-galaxy-s5/
http://androiding.how/download-galaxy-s5-cm13-rom-marshmallow/
I'm guessing they may not be correct?
FrozenClear said:
That is what I thought. What are the custom rom options? Is there a rooted marshmallow rom for the s5 i can install?
Also according to these articles it is possible:
http://rootmygalaxy.net/install-cm-13-rom-on-galaxy-s5/
http://androiding.how/download-galaxy-s5-cm13-rom-marshmallow/
I'm guessing they may not be correct?
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Asked and answered here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/help/sm-g900a-5-0-oc4-to-cm13-mm-roadmap-t3362993
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Asked and answered here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/help/sm-g900a-5-0-oc4-to-cm13-mm-roadmap-t3362993
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So what ROM options are available to me? Is there a list somewhere?
FrozenClear said:
So what ROM options are available to me? Is there a list somewhere?
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You can look in Galaxy S5 Android Development.