I used to have root prior to the update and it is gone now (obviously). I am wondering is it possible to flash a different Rom onto the phone to regain root access sort of like downgrading? Or is that not possible anymore either? I have looked for the answer to this but couldn't find anything. If it is possible is there a way to get cyanogenmod on there and would it be done using odin?
SGS4ActiveUser said:
I used to have root prior to the update and it is gone now (obviously). I am wondering is it possible to flash a different Rom onto the phone to regain root access sort of like downgrading? Or is that not possible anymore either? I have looked for the answer to this but couldn't find anything. If it is possible is there a way to get cyanogenmod on there and would it be done using odin?
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The locked bootloader means no custom recovery and no flashing of files that aren't signed by Samsung. With the new ML2 bootloader you cannot downgrade to any other firmware. Without root you cannot use SafeStrap either. Basically if you're on ML2 you are stuck and can't do anything.
If you're willing please help us find a way to achieve root on ML2. Check this thread for updates.
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I know the update was a security fix but am looking for a method to root while remaining as completely stock as humanly possible. I've never rooted before and am still completely stock now.
Best case scenario would be to gain root while leaving everything stock, boot loader, recovery, etc.. maybe even try one of them nice roms for the first time (i hear cyrogen is the best and yes I probably misspelled that)
Thanks
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There's a couple of tutorials about this in another thread.
If I were you i'd follow one of them and also install a custom recovery. Then play around all you like with rooted roms, stock, custom or otherwise. Once you have a custom recovery you can flash anything. The only down side is that you won't be able to install any OTA roms. But to be honest they appear on XDA in a format you can use on custom recovery way way before you ever receive an OTA notification anyway.
Then if you're sure you only want a stock but rooted rom, then install that and then finally flash the stock recovery back.
However if you're sure you don't want a custom recovery and only want root, you can follow the first half of the same tutorials.
I myself have an unlocked bootloader, but if I didnt, I would root, install a custom recovery and never look back. If anything ever happened to my device i'd just flash the stock recovery and stock firmware and send it back.
Ok, thanks!
That's good information but I'm unsure if I want to unlock at the moment. Thanks but I'll wait a little longer to see if a solution comes out that this my needs.
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viper2g1 said:
That's good information but I'm unsure if I want to unlock at the moment. Thanks but I'll wait a little longer to see if a solution comes out that this my needs.
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No, thats the point. You dont need to unlock to root OR put a custom recovery anymore. See here for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
So you can root, put on a custom recovery, try different roms and then go back to stock, rooted or not, without unlocking the bootloader at all.
I see what your getting at, that's what I was looking for but wasn't sure it was working for FRF91 the last few posts in that thread indicated an unlocked boot loader last time I looked.
I thought the update was to fix the security hole that allowed that
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I have read a lot of comments on the guide of how root the nexus without unlocking the bootloader and searched in other places but couldn't find an answer to my question...
I've got at&t version nexus unrooted and I updated it to FRF91 OTA.
can I use this guide to root it without unlocking the bootloader?
If I can, how do I do it? some people wrote that I need to use Passimg.zip
but I think It's for T-mo version only because at&t's version doesn't have the erf79 (I hope I wrote it right).
anyway I'm really confused. can someone please explain?
thanks
I've got at&t version nexus unrooted and I updated it to FRF91 OTA.
can I use this guide to root it without unlocking the bootloader?
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Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
RashaMatt said:
Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
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they should work in the same way as it did for FRF83 or FRF85B.. you could always try without harm
RashaMatt said:
Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
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this link: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717870
is a guide of how to downgrade from FRF91 to FRF85 in an unrooted nexus.
that way you can use this tut and root it w/o touchnig the bootloader
EPE76 to frf85B
Hi,
I am back from frf91 ota to EPE76 by applaing passimg.zip. My question is how can I move to frf85B ? I've tried to download universal frf85B, change name to update.zip and go to recovery, but I only see exclemation mark. Please advise. Thank you.
Hello all,
Im totally confused as to how to go about rooting my device c6902. Ive owned a couple of android devices and Ive rooted them all, however....with this device and there seem to be different ways people have rooted from reading the threads and im totally confused, So far I have unlocked the bootloader, and upgraded the device OTA to lollipop .242 (before the bootloader was unlocked), I dont intend installing any custom firmware, just want root so I can use TB and maybe delete a few bloatwares with root explorer and use xposed.
Im confused as to whether:
1. I have to downgrade firmware to kitkat, just to get root, then upgrade back to official firmware?
2. Ive been under the impression that a custom recovery and supersu, is enough to get root. It doesnt work that way on this device?
3. I saw some oneclick root programs that worked on the z1 compact would any work here
Just trying to know more about the phone and understand, so any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
bigmeech084 said:
Hello all,
Im totally confused as to how to go about rooting my device c6902. Ive owned a couple of android devices and Ive rooted them all, however....with this device and there seem to be different ways people have rooted from reading the threads and im totally confused, So far I have unlocked the bootloader, and upgraded the device OTA to lollipop .242 (before the bootloader was unlocked), I dont intend installing any custom firmware, just want root so I can use TB and maybe delete a few bloatwares with root explorer and use xposed.
Im confused as to whether:
1. I have to downgrade firmware to kitkat, just to get root, then upgrade back to official firmware?
2. Ive been under the impression that a custom recovery and supersu, is enough to get root. It doesnt work that way on this device?
3. I saw some oneclick root programs that worked on the z1 compact would any work here
Just trying to know more about the phone and understand, so any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2631291
Using the guide on the link I just posted, you are not required to unlock the bootloader, unlocking the bootloader without backing up the TA partition can cause problems with your phone.
You need to downgrade to KitKat 4.4.4 with kernel 108, then root it with easyroot install supersu and rootchecker to make sure your phone is rooted, the use NUTs recovery to create a recovery partition, after that search XDA forums for a pre-rooted lollipop flashable zip and install that, and voila you should be on lollipop with root and recovery.
I am not sure about one-click root programs.
demon148 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2631291
Using the guide on the link I just posted, you are not required to unlock the bootloader, unlocking the bootloader without backing up the TA partition can cause problems with your phone.
You need to downgrade to KitKat 4.4.4 with kernel 108, then root it with easyroot install supersu and rootchecker to make sure your phone is rooted, the use NUTs recovery to create a recovery partition, after that search XDA forums for a pre-rooted lollipop flashable zip and install that, and voila you should be on lollipop with root and recovery.
I am not sure about one-click root programs.
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Thanks for your help.
I already unlocked the bootloader though. Do I need to downgrade the whole kitkat rom or flash just the kernel? thanks
Figured out. Thanks
Is this possible or will I need to restore the firmware and such?
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Is this possible or will I need to restore the firmware and such?
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To answer my own question, it won't work. I tried multiple different ways until I finally decided to sideload it using fastboot.
I still remain unlocked, as seen when booting up, but I'm sure I've lost any root. And no longer have TWRP either.
Just wondering if anyone has been able to root this or has even tried any methods?
I have personally confirmed that we will loose root if upgraded, and will have to downgrade just to re-root again.
I have yet to try and use anything but the typical 1-clicks and short answer is no they didn't work.
Anyone have any other ideas on starting points?
theshadower10 said:
Just wondering if anyone has been able to root this or has even tried any methods?
I have personally confirmed that we will loose root if upgraded, and will have to downgrade just to re-root again.
I have yet to try and use anything but the typical 1-clicks and short answer is no they didn't work.
Anyone have any other ideas on starting points?
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You may unlock the bootloader to flash a custom kernel with in-built recovery and then flash the SU from recovery
After that you are able to flash the stock kernel again if you didnt mind using a custom kernel
topic. thanks!
No. Not by accepting an OTA update. You'll have to update and re root.
what about getting rid of the update notification? is it possible to get rid of it?
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topic. thanks!
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Yes you can. Install ota rootkeeper from playstore.
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I don't even get the update when I check since it has been modified in an "unauthorized way"
You can update via odin. Not through an OTA. Root has still not been written for 5.1.1, so if you want to keep root, don't update.
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I don't even get the update when I check since it has been modified in an "unauthorized way"
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Dont Update!!!!!!! Not only do you lose root BUT you also lose your unlocked bootloader and you cant flash custom recoveries anymore until someone comes up with a method and you can't downgrade.
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Dont Update!!!!!!! Not only do you lose root BUT you also lose your unlocked bootloader and you cant flash custom recoveries anymore until someone comes up with a method and you can't downgrade.
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The bootloader is still unlocked. It's custom recoveries like TWRP that need to be updated to work in conjunction with the new bootloader. That's all.