After update, my device alarm doesn't work anymore when it's off, sometimes the device reboot by itself or stay off can I need push start and home many times to succed to start it, battery seem to last less, any of u has same issues?
Do u know if HTC will release an update to correct these issues like fo the HTC One?
Any solutions?
thx all
hirunda said:
After update, my device alarm doesn't work anymore when it's off, sometimes the device reboot by itself or stay off can I need push start and home many times to succed to start it, battery seem to last less, any of u has same issues?
Do u know if HTC will release an update to correct these issues like fo the HTC One?
Any solutions?
thx all
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hirunda said:
After update, my device alarm doesn't work anymore when it's off, sometimes the device reboot by itself or stay off can I need push start and home many times to succed to start it, battery seem to last less, any of u has same issues?
Do u know if HTC will release an update to correct these issues like fo the HTC One?
Any solutions?
thx all
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"my device alarm doesn't work anymore when it's off"
don't think this is a bug, it's a "design" taken off due to the policy change to 4.4.2...don't think it's HTC fault...this has been discussed on numerous forums in Asia...ppl blamed HTC for this...but it's not really their fault...
hi.
pkalltheway2000 said:
"my device alarm doesn't work anymore when it's off"
don't think this is a bug, it's a "design" taken off due to the policy change to 4.4.2...don't think it's HTC fault...this has been discussed on
numerous forums in Asia...ppl blamed HTC for this...but it's not really their fault...
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Sorry I do not speak English very well where to post my Vnmydanstm
Hi Greeting serve you. I have a big problem with the phone and it is also difficult Butterfly S Pace copy files to the memory card by software applications Agramkandard fix this problem in the next update and fix program Thanks
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Sorry I do not speak English very well where to post my Vnmydanstm
Hi Greeting serve you. I have a big problem with the phone and it is also difficult Butterfly S Pace copy files to the memory card by software applications Agramkandard fix this problem in the next update and fix program Thanks
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That's everyone problem u hv to be rooted to fix that
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daorderdillon said:
That's everyone problem u hv to be rooted to fix that
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Thank you dear friend, so this is just my phone! Made it difficult for the company? And I am not solving this problem is a problem we see in the next update??
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Thank you dear friend, so this is just my phone! Made it difficult for the company? And I am not solving this problem is a problem we see in the next update??
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Everyone means every android
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That's everyone problem u hv to be rooted to fix that
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My friend, you mentioned that you are using hTC butterfly S with Sense 6, would you please clarify? As I am trying to find any developed sense 6 ROMS like in DROID DNA section, but I couldn't find anything unfortunately...
Anyone know why my phone has such massive wakelocks since installing the update?
Something is draining the battery about 5% per hour when in stand by mode. Something won't let it go into deep sleep and better battery stats now says it needs root to tell me this info now I'm on Kit Kat.
Most annoying as the battery is usually fantastic.
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sjred_uk said:
Anyone know why my phone has such massive wakelocks since installing the update?
Something is draining the battery about 5% per hour when in stand by mode. Something won't let it go into deep sleep and better battery stats now says it needs root to tell me this info now I'm on Kit Kat.
Most annoying as the battery is usually fantastic.
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after two days use.I have found two problem 1 each time when I make group chat with friends it forclosed.2 I just find out tonight you can see the sensor on the up right cornor of phone it blinking while on phone call..... I don't know this is normal or not....anyone who have incredible s can you confirm this?? if only me have that issue what can I do
Sorry can you explain what group chat is.....? Thanks
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Could you please be a little clearer. I don't understand what the problems are.
About the group chat which program do you use for this.
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Could you please be a little clearer. I don't understand what the problems are.
About the group chat which program do you use for this.
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sorry. it is google talk group chat
Hi guys,
My sis has bought an incredible S last saturday so 6 days ago. While these 3 days she had 3 random reboots of the device. Once it was in the mid of the day, today it was during the night (it was charging) and no its not because the battery was low. So does anyone know what the problem is?
Thank you.
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Hi guys,
My sis has bought an incredible S last saturday so 6 days ago. While these 3 days she had 3 random reboots of the device. Once it was in the mid of the day, today it was during the night (it was charging) and no its not because the battery was low. So does anyone know what the problem is?
Thank you.
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I only got one time reboot by itself.don't know what happen
So no-one has acctualy an idea what the problem is? :/
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After about 10 days playing arround, my phone did not reboot or crash. not even ones.
I really dont care about dualcore becouse this thing runs like a dream. Really looking forward to the upcomming android/sense update.
Since we don't have logs or anything no we don't.
Just like every ROM: probably a faulty app. Factory reset and only use the stock apps for a day or 2. If it still persists you can complain @ HTC with no problems install some apps and repeat. The usual debug process.
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Since we don't have logs or anything no we don't.
Just like every ROM: probably a faulty app. Factory reset and only use the stock apps for a day or 2. If it still persists you can complain @ HTC with no problems install some apps and repeat. The usual debug process.
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Thank you very much Sir, I appreciate it.
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Guys, just to inform u that my device is DEAD.. i was changing vold.fstab for sense 4 port via adb.. when i tried to restart it device is not turning ON.. crap crap crap
Any one had same issue? Any possibility of solving it myself?
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fshami said:
Guys, just to inform u that my device is DEAD.. i was changing vold.fstab for sense 4 port via adb.. when i tried to restart it device is not turning ON.. crap crap crap
Any one had same issue? Any possibility of solving it myself?
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I had it (on my friends phone)
Mobo to change , srry.
only if your phone is charging or starting to bootloader. (J-tag fix) but if nothing happen its just like in my case.
stona175 said:
I had it (My friends phone)
Mobo to change ;/ srry.
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Uffff. Am so dead now. Already going through a tough financial situation.. crap
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fshami said:
Uffff. Am so dead now. Already going through a tough financial situation.. crap
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Thats why i check 100 times now before i share it
Recently saw on ebay very cheap mobo.
sorry to hear that fshami you are good to devving on this device
I just can't understand how this happens!
I installed on my device tons of unsucssesfull ports, crappy ports that i was working on, but in the worst scenario it freezez at HTC logo...
It should be a way to unbrick it, there is a way, as for jtag, there is a hard way... You need to dissassemble the phone, find the real JTag and flash the ROM directly to the memory, this usually renders the phone antenna useless on many phones, but there is a way. If the computer detects any activity of the phone when it is connected, then there should also be a way to revive it (there is one on Dell Streak 5, there was one on Nokia N95, and there are for many devices, those 2 are the ones i tested). Don't know for sure how to help, but i'm sure that something can be done, and changing the vold.stab through adb doesn't seem like the thing that will brick your device...
Just for the info, did you guys used S-OFF or not? , if yes, what variant of it
P.S: There is always a way, don't be lazy to state: srry, change mobo, as long as the physical parts ar intact, there is a way to unbrik it (i don't have a bricked phone but i will look into it)
There no other way to wake it up. Cuz this bricking the memory on mobo. That i hear fron my friend who's working in htc poland service.
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stona175 said:
There no other way to wake it up. Cuz this bricking the memory on mobo. That i hear fron my friend who's working in htc poland service.
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Well, i really believe there is a way, as i don't think a software thingy can physically damage the memory of the device in such a way that it renders it useless, htc service or not, i'm a skeptic
Also, could you please tell me if you used S-OFF and or what variant of HBoot (1.25 or 1.28)
NOTE: I sent a PM to AdamOutler regarding this issue, he is a specialist in unbricking devices, so, we will know if something can be done, maybe he will need a device, a bricked one will do i think, so if some of you would want to send him one, if he accepts to work on it, it would be nice
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Well, i really believe there is a way, as i don't think a software thingy can physically damage the memory of the device in such a way that it renders it useless, htc service or not, i'm a skeptic
Also, could you please tell me if you used S-OFF and or what variant of HBoot (1.25 or 1.28)
NOTE: I sent a PM to AdamOutler regarding this issue, he is a specialist in unbricking devices, so, we will know if something can be done, maybe he will need a device, a bricked one will do i think, so if some of you would want to send him one, if he accepts to work on it, it would be nice
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there was S-ON and 1.25 in my case
stona175 said:
there was S-ON and 1.25 in my case
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Just as i thought... Because when you use S-ON you need to do some things from fastboot, and fastboot is pretty nice interface to brick your phone.
Because of this, use S-OFF, "God" made it for a reason
Lexmazter said:
Just as i thought... Because when you use S-ON you need to do some things from fastboot, and fastboot is pretty nice interface to brick your phone.
Because of this, use S-OFF, "God" made it for a reason
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holy truth :good:
Thanks guys for ur concern. Hboot was 1.25 from farjdab
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Thanks guys for ur concern. Hboot was 1.25 from farjdab
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Well, my thoughts were right then... As fardjab's hboot is not fully S-OFF.
Don't know why you people didn't use fully S-OFF if it is available, and it is easy to install too....
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Well, my thoughts were right then... As fardjab's hboot is not fully S-OFF.
Don't know why you people didn't use fully S-OFF if it is available, and it is easy to install too....
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True . Will give it to htc now
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True . Will give it to htc now
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Maybe AdamOutler will like to give it a ride, if you would like to send it to him, if he accepts to make some unbricking thingy.
Or you can give to HTC and i will write a big HEADS-UP on my multi tool to warn people about possible bricking when using S-ON.
I had something similar last week. I have sent my phone to HTC for repair. My phone is 9 months old. I will see what HTC say about warranty.
It was S-Off with unlimited.io
rlamba said:
I had something similar last week. I have sent my phone to HTC for repair. My phone is 9 months old. I will see what HTC say about warranty.
It was S-Off with unlimited.io
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good luck to u too.. lolz
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good luck to u too.. lolz
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I still can't understand how you people managed to brick it... I tried many weird things on it, like flashing the CM9 for Xperia Arc with no modifications, and i still hadn't brick it, it just frose on boot and that's all of it...
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I still can't understand how you people managed to brick it... I tried many weird things on it, like flashing the CM9 for Xperia Arc with no modifications, and i still hadn't brick it, it just frose on boot and that's all of it...
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Try doing the same as i did.. lolz. I had a DHD for an year messed it up every possible way but no bricking..
For runnymede worked fine with my experiements for 6 months or so.. but while playing with vold.fstab it died..
i remember one of the 3M team guys mentioning the same thing earlier that his device died while playing with vold.fstab
anyhow whats done is done.. so its time to wait n c
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Try doing the same as i did.. lolz. I had a DHD for an year messed it up every possible way but no bricking..
For runnymede worked fine with my experiements for 6 months or so.. but while playing with vold.fstab it died..
i remember one of the 3M team guys mentioning the same thing earlier that his device died while playing with vold.fstab
anyhow whats done is done.. so its time to wait n c
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Well, to avoid this from happening again, include the right vold.fstab in a flashable zip.
So, beware of the big brick
Hello Friends... I saw many people having this problem with their phones... The problem was battery charging stuck when it reaches x% (x might be 85 or 87 or 90 whatever mine is 87%). I tried bump charging, tried to calibrate battery several times, etc etc but nothing works... So i decided to take help of HTC Care and i get back to stock and i take my phone to htc... they registered my complaint... The Engineer named this problem as Battery Not Charging Physically... They kept my phone for a week.. after 2-3 days a call came from HTC to tell exact repairing amount of phone... According to HTC Engineers the problem is with motherboard and it costs 8590 INR... So i didn't repaired my phone...So there is no worth to repair phone...and say Bye bye to Green LED... lolzz... If any one solved this problem on there own then plz share ua exp so others can solved them too... Thank You..
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You can flash several roms and hope for the best
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Silversniper said:
You can flash several roms and hope for the best
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Seems legit.
Hopes die last, I think it is called... (and it is also an awesome band that's not really by point)
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Have you tried with another battery? Because they have a chip that prevents overcharge. Maybe this has a defect.
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pec0ra said:
Have you tried with another battery? Because they have a chip that prevents overcharge. Maybe this has a defect.
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Yeah i used my Brother's desire s battery bt nothing changed...it charges upto 90 ...
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shiromau said:
Yeah i used my Brother's desire s battery bt nothing changed...it charges upto 90 ...
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And probably htc tried it with another battery too if they tried the least to repair your phone... After a few thought I think my question was stupid
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Had same problem for sure! Bought a new battery and now it charges up, and the battery life just amazing
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Marjuuus said:
Had same problem for sure! Bought a new battery and now it charges up, and the battery life just amazing
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shiromau said:
Hello Friends... I saw many people having this problem with their phones... The problem was battery charging stuck when it reaches x% (x might be 85 or 87 or 90 whatever mine is 87%). I tried bump charging, tried to calibrate battery several times, etc etc but nothing works... So i decided to take help of HTC Care and i get back to stock and i take my phone to htc... they registered my complaint... The Engineer named this problem as Battery Not Charging Physically... They kept my phone for a week.. after 2-3 days a call came from HTC to tell exact repairing amount of phone... According to HTC Engineers the problem is with motherboard and it costs 8590 INR... So i didn't repaired my phone...So there is no worth to repair phone...and say Bye bye to Green LED... lolzz... If any one solved this problem on there own then plz share ua exp so others can solved them too... Thank You..
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In addition to the issue you mentioned about battery not charging beyond a certain percentage, did the battery also drain faster?
I have the x% issue and the battery drains fast adding to the woes
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Splux said:
Seems legit.
Hopes die last, I think it is called... (and it is also an awesome band that's not really by point)
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It is called hopes dies last, and I love their album throne to the wolves :3
Btt I had this issue too but back on old sense 3.5 Rom everything works well
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It is called hopes dies last, and I love their album throne to the wolves :3
Btt I had this issue too but back on old sense 3.5 Rom everything works well
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sense 3.5 or sense 3.6 the official one???
i already tried official sense...
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shiromau said:
sense 3.5 or sense 3.6 the official one???
i already tried official sense...
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Sense 3.5 Virtuous Affinity as example
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Hi, I've been digging around here and generally around the internet too. There doesn't seem to be much interest in developing for this, yeah ? Does anyone know if there exists a port of Cyanogenmod for the Butterfly S or if anyone is developing for it at all? Love this phone but i'm not expecting much in terms of updates and that really would be a shame.
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Hi, I've been digging around here and generally around the internet too. There doesn't seem to be much interest in developing for this, yeah ? Does anyone know if there exists a port of Cyanogenmod for the Butterfly S or if anyone is developing for it at all? Love this phone but i'm not expecting much in terms of updates and that really would be a shame.
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Everyone here loves the way the phone is I think , it's perfect out of the box and some jus root and stay on stock Rom. And if your worried updates Wil come to this device jus like the old butterfly I had
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daorderdillon said:
Everyone here loves the way the phone is I think , it's perfect out of the box and some jus root and stay on stock Rom. And if your worried updates Wil come to this device jus like the old butterfly I had
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Hmm.. Yeah, it is a really nice phone. How was the original Butterfly with updates ? I'm liking some of the stuff Google is doing with 4.4 and i hope the update makes it over to the Butterfly S as well eventually.
The original had the updates to 4.2.2 right after HTC one but I sold mines because I wanted dual speakers bigger battery etc. I till miss the lightness of it
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dhruvbhutani said:
Hmm.. Yeah, it is a really nice phone. How was the original Butterfly with updates ? I'm liking some of the stuff Google is doing with 4.4 and i hope the update makes it over to the Butterfly S as well eventually.
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I just hope they don't repeat the crap with the One S again. So far HTC has not been clear on when the Butterfly s getting 4.3. IF there is an update we likely won't be delayed since these phones are unlocked. Taiwanese versions usually get it first shortly followed by the rest.
Also an interesting note it seems you can disable BlinkFeed on One X/X+ and original Butterfly on 4.2/Sense 5, but they left out the "home screen style" option on the Butterfly s and One which means you can't disable it. Personally I don't mind Blinkfeed I look at news from it whenever I'm bored, but it seems a lot of people hate it. It seems HTC wanted users of the newer devices to use Blinkfeed but didn't want to force older device users.
The HTC ONE and the butterfly s came with blinkfeed so ya can't change it but older models were updated so u have a choice
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Hey all,
I recently (2 months ago) got a brand new HTC One. It's been great so far, love it.
Only issue I have is last week it started going to Speakerphone mode when making calls and receiving them. All I have to do is turn off the speakerphone to get it back to earpiece but it's slightly annoying.
I've tried resetting the device to no avail.
I'm running on the Rogers network in Canada running Kit Kat.
Any ideas would be great.
Thanks!
Basttrax said:
Hey all,
I recently (2 months ago) got a brand new HTC One. It's been great so far, love it.
Only issue I have is last week it started going to Speakerphone mode when making calls and receiving them. All I have to do is turn off the speakerphone to get it back to earpiece but it's slightly annoying.
I've tried resetting the device to no avail.
I'm running on the Rogers network in Canada running Kit Kat.
Any ideas would be great.
Thanks!
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I had the same problem...it eventually got to the point where only speaker would work and not ear piece...now..the only thing that works is if I have it connected through headset...cyanogenmod fixed all my problems....any sense romss I try to use, give me the same problem...if u don't mind changing tons..jus install cyanogen...but if u find a solution, let me kno, cuz I can't find any info about it or a solution
Try deactivate chome browser and see if it solves the problem.
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jonas111sanoj said:
Try deactivate chome browser and see if it solves the problem.
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I tried that...didn't work, but may I ask why you think that?...Or some info onto why u think that
Still goes to Speaker phone even with browser deactivated. Arg. It's still under warranty but I'm nervous the ****ty refurbished phone they send me will be worse than this one.
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i'm having this same issue...i looked all over the call settings and don't see a toggle that i might have accidentally switched on...anyone figure out a solution to this yet?
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Everyone experiencing the issue have a custom ROM? What is it if so?
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100% stock for me.. Issue happened randomly it seemed after coming back from a trip overseas
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I'm having this issue at the moment, occasionally I ring people and the speaker phone is automatically on.
First time it happened I didn't notice and someone answered as I put the earpiece to my ear, nearly burst my bl00dy eardrum!
I'm running ARHD 51.0.
Having the same issue since about 1-1.5 weeks or so. Using ViperOne 5.5.1 with latest FW and Elemental X 13 kernel.
Freakadude said:
Having the same issue since about 1-1.5 weeks or so. Using ViperOne 5.5.1 with latest FW and Elemental X 13 kernel.
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Same here after upgrading to 4.4.2 with sense, never happened on GPE
oksagi said:
Same here after upgrading to 4.4.2 with sense, never happened on GPE
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The weird thing is that i have been on 4.4.2 for a while now via ViperOne and this issue has just recently popped up (or so it seems to me). So not sure if this is related to sense based rom running 4.4.2. or something different.
Well I do feel slightly better that I'm not the only one. But also wished I wasn't part of this so special group. Ha!
After a little googling people seem to think it might have something wrong with the docking mechanism.
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Basttrax said:
Well I do feel slightly better that I'm not the only one. But also wished I wasn't part of this so special group. Ha!
After a little googling people seem to think it might have something wrong with the docking mechanism.
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Mentioning the dock makes me wonder if those who've looked thru the call settings have looked thru the dock settings to see if there is an option there to open with speaker phone on? Or in the headphone or bluetooth settings. My feeling for looking in these places is that if for some reason the device thinks it's connected to one of these devices that could be changing it's behavior? Anyway, I don't think I'm having this issue but I rarely get calls and usually when I do I use speaker phone, but I'm also pretty sure that I'm having to turn it on also.
HTC replied to someone on Twitter to boot into recovery and clear cache who also had reported the problem...they showed instructions on how to get into stock recovery and do it. I'm wondering if anyone can try that. Either stock or custom recovery.
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I'll give it a try today and get back to you on the results.
I know a full reset doesn't do the trick so it's worth a shot.
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HTC replied to someone on Twitter to boot into recovery and clear cache who also had reported the problem...they showed instructions on how to get into stock recovery and do it. I'm wondering if anyone can try that. Either stock or custom recovery.
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So far so good. Tried calling home and my voice-mail and it didn't happen. It doesn't necessarily start up right away however so I'll have to keep an eye on it. I'll respond back here when/if it reappears.
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So far so good. Tried calling home and my voice-mail and it didn't happen. It doesn't necessarily start up right away however so I'll have to keep an eye on it. I'll respond back here when/if it reappears.
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And vola! It has returned. So we can wipe the "wipe the cache" fix off the board.
I have the problem randomly just satarted after 4.4.2 update. Stock unlocked phone still have it after yesterday's update.
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qayak said:
I have the problem randomly just satarted after 4.4.2 update. Stock unlocked phone still have it after yesterday's update.
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So i guess this is a general sense 4.4.2 issue then and not custom rom, kernel, other specific. Strange that it seems to only start after a random amount of time as i deffinately did not have this issue for quite some time after upgrading to 4.4.2 based rom.