I am planning to upgrade from my current Xperia X10i to the Xperia Z1.
I was curious about the rooting process and things though. When the phone is rooted,
it allows your to add your on software right (like Astro File Manager or APKs not from the market)?
What is the bootloader for? Is it needed? I heard some people tell me that if you root the Z1 you lose the little
Sony things like the Bravia Engine and the camera. Is that so?
Thanks for your help.
necrogodomega said:
I am planning to upgrade from my current Xperia X10i to the Xperia Z1.
I was curious about the rooting process and things though. When the phone is rooted,
it allows your to add your on software right (like Astro File Manager or APKs not from the market)?
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You do not need root for this, just like on the x10, please note that you do not have to unlock the bootloader to root (In most cases)
What is the bootloader for? Is it needed?
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YES, its like saying do you need battery, without it the phone wont boot
I heard some people tell me that if you root the Z1 you lose the little
Sony things like the Bravia Engine and the camera. Is that so?
Thanks for your help.
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You lose some functionality (When unlocking the bootloader, not when rooting) but camera works the same. Its all explained here
Also, I do suggest you do a lot of reading, from your questions it appears you are not an experienced user, so please read before doing anything to your new phone
necrogodomega said:
I heard some people tell me that if you root the Z1 you lose the little
Sony things like the Bravia Engine and the camera. Is that so?
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gregbradley said:
You lose some functionality but camera works the same. Its all explained here
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No, you do NOT lose functionality just by rooting. Nothing at all.
You DO lose a bit of functionality by unlocking the bootloader. And some have reported that even though with an unlocked bootloader that while camera works, you lose the Bionz image processing. You also lose the Bravia engine.
As gregbradley said, you can root without unlocking the bootloader (usually). Rooting and bootloader unlocking are different things.
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301stSpartan said:
No, you do NOT lose functionality just by rooting. Nothing at all.
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That was in reply to his questions about unlocking the boot, you do lose some things from unlocking the bootloader, not from rooting, I edited my post to make this clearer
gregbradley said:
That was in reply to his questions about unlocking the boot, you do lose some things from unlocking the bootloader, not from rooting, I edited my post to make this clearer
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I assumed as much bc I know that you're no noob on this device. But I was just clarifying bc the question you quoted was directly about root, not bl. My assumption was that he was confusing the two terms, not you
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301stSpartan said:
I assumed as much bc I know that you're no noob on this device. But I was just clarifying bc the question you quoted was directly about root, not bl. My assumption was that he was confusing the two terms, not you
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No worries, I know. So many people get the two confused as its treated as the same thing on other devices such as Samsung
Thanks for both of your answers.
I actually fully modded my X10i just by following directions and getting some guided help
from other great uses from this site. But that was ages ago and Sony's phones have changed a bit in their make up since the X10 days.
So I wanted to know exactly what was going on. I remember unlocking the bootloader for the X10 and losing the camera, but that was fixed (I long forgot how).
I wanted to know just what was going on with the newest generations of Xperias.
Thanks for your helps. It's much appreciated.
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The guides I have read say a full wipe is needed that loses drm and the Sony Bravia 2 engine. I don't like the idea of something totally irreversible, it makes it harder to sell second for starters.
That would be root via unlocking bootloader.
We are still waiting on a root exploit with locked bootloaders.
Be patient, it will happen.
Now it is possible. I rooted my phone successfully without tampering with the bootloader. More info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2154310&page=13
Maybe best to wait till we get that bat file rewritten in English before publicising it too much.
It's not difficult but as it is, it will cause a lot of confusion.
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fards said:
Maybe best to wait till we get that bat file rewritten in English before publicising it too much.
It's not difficult but as it is, it will cause a lot of confusion.
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Hey I just followed someone's instructions and it worked
You guys are kings, I'd bless you all with gallons of beer and virgins! Okay, maybe not virgins, but a bit more... ahem... experienced ladies
Hi everyone.I have xperia z1 .257 firmware.Im waiting kingo app or 360 supports for .257 firmware.It will be my first root.Im afraid Here is my question.
If i do root should i use another rom ? Can i continue without any rom ? They told me if i dont use another rom my phone can be brick.
fndkc said:
Hi everyone.I have xperia z1 .257 firmware.Im waiting kingo app or 360 supports for .257 firmware.It will be my first root.Im afraid Here is my question.
If i do root should i use another rom ? Can i continue without any rom ? They told me if i dont use another rom my phone can be brick.
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Rooting won't brick your phone. And you can have root on stock
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You can root and stay on stock ROM no need to change to another ROM. Also rooting .257 firmware is not yet supported. Morever I read somewhere that Kingo and Vroot are under investigation for installing tracking malware.
MetalGearSolid said:
You can root and stay on stock ROM no need to change to another ROM. Also rooting .257 firmware is not yet supported. Morever I read somewhere that Kingo and Vroot are under investigation for installing tracking malware.
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yeah i know.because of that im waiting new update
What was that i heard about doing something to your phone messes up the camera? Will rooting it do that to the camera?
No rooting does not affect the Camera. Only unlocking Bootloader will mess up the camera.
Just tried vroot for my Z1 (6903...xx257 firmware) and it doesnt work
Hope to see some progress about it soon as I need root to restore my titanium backups from another phone
Stegy said:
Just tried vroot for my Z1 (6903...xx257 firmware) and it doesnt work
Hope to see some progress about it soon as I need root to restore my titanium backups from another phone
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Please read some of the guides.
It is impossible to directly root that FW,
Downgrade to .534, root and then upgrade OTA
I think dont downgrade your phone to 538.My some friends have problem about camera and walkman bla bla.Wait the root programme for 257
fndkc said:
I think dont downgrade your phone to 538.My some friends have problem about camera and walkman bla bla.Wait the root programme for 257
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There are no problems because you immediately upgrade to .257 OTA and the problems go.
You downgrade to the older version and are on it for as long as it takes to root (2-3 minutes) during that time the camera does work (But you can fix it if you want by clearing the data in the camera common app) but as soon as you upgrade it works again...
Do this my friend i did it and it work for me ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boIq09H026k
gregbradley said:
There are no problems because you immediately upgrade to .257 OTA and the problems go.
You downgrade to the older version and are on it for as long as it takes to root (2-3 minutes) during that time the camera does work (But you can fix it if you want by clearing the data in the camera common app) but as soon as you upgrade it works again...
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kiorix said:
Do this my friend i did it and it work for me ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boIq09H026k
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was this post directed to me?
MetalGearSolid said:
No rooting does not affect the Camera. Only unlocking Bootloader will mess up the camera.
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what does unlocking bootloader mean exactly? sorry im new to this kinda stuff :/
Please read the guides.
They are the sticky threads in the general and development section. Or you can always Google it
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Cleviojr said:
Relax, rooting won't brick your phone hehe!
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guys so i heared something.Cant it get OTA updates automaticlly ? Do ii have to update by manuel ?
xunit94 said:
what does unlocking bootloader mean exactly? sorry im new to this kinda stuff :/
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Learn before doing atleast, so we don't get fifty new threads about generic issues.
This is a development forum, and it would be nice if it's not overly cluttered with useless threads all the time.
Also the mods gets a break aswell
I do not mean to be rude, but people who ask questions, which the answer to, lies a couple clicks away, generally don't want to bother themselves with reading.
This is a shame, because the great developers on here are excellent at writing extensively about how to do things, and what you should and should not do.
xunit94 said:
what does unlocking bootloader mean exactly? sorry im new to this kinda stuff :/
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Here is a video that you might find useful:
That should cover a lot of the questions that you may have.
Hello everyone, I'm a owner Sony Xperia Z1 C6903.
I've a question.
1. Should I root my smartphone ?
I'm interesting of Timeshift video (slow motion) and Screen recorder, etc.
2. I heard about broken camera after root, is that true? Is it possible to fix ?
3. What about durable battery, keep live longer or shorter time?
I had root on my previous smartphone (Sony Xperia X10i) and after few months ROM start crashing, freezing and many apps functionally wrong or totally didn't work and was problem with SU..
What can you tell me after few months after root, how smartphone works? There are any problems with this ?
Let me know your opinions. I need to decide.
Someone have here rooted Sony Xperia Z1 C6903? Did rooted was good thing?
Which ROM should I chose?
If ROM start crashing, can I then back to original software without any problems?
I need also guide step by step how to root Z1, and I don't know what about that camera if it's true.
1st: Wrong section. There is a "Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting" thread... => SEE HERE
TagonZ said:
1. Should I root my smartphone ?
I'm interesting of Timeshift video (slow motion) and Screen recorder, etc.
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If you want have custom features - then root your phone
TagonZ said:
2. I heard about broken camera after root, is that true? Is it possible to fix ?
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Cam is OK after rooting
TagonZ said:
3. What about durable battery, keep live longer or shorter time?
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Battery questions are a little bit annoying. How you use your phone? What apps you have? bla bla bla bla
TagonZ said:
I had root on my previous smartphone (Sony Xperia X10i) and after few months ROM start crashing, freezing and many apps functionally wrong or totally didn't work and was problem with SU..
What can you tell me after few months after root, how smartphone works? There are any problems with this ?
Let me know your opinions. I need to decide.
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After root, your smartphone works normally, but with root. But if you flash wrong things (mods not for your phone etc) and don't read instructions carefully - this could be a reason for reboots, freezes and so on. You must know what you do.
TagonZ said:
Someone have here rooted Sony Xperia Z1 C6903? Did rooted was good thing?
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Here a million of users who root their phones successfully and have a big fun And yes, for me root is a good thing
TagonZ said:
Which ROM should I chose?
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Do you like green or red shoes? Try out different ROMs and take the ROM that is for you the best.
TagonZ said:
If ROM start crashing, can I then back to original software without any problems?
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Use Flashtool and the right ftf for your phone. Make backups
TagonZ said:
I need also guide step by step how to root Z1, and I don't know what about that camera if it's true.
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Look in this forum and you will found many guides for rooting and all other stuff like this:
[Xperia Z1][INFO][REF] All the info you need before you begin
Root, Backup TA, Unlock bootloader and more! The ultimate Xperia Z1 guide
Newroot for Z1 & Z1C
And the very important thing:
READ READ READ READ
SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH
USE YOUR BRAIN
schickel said:
1st: Wrong section. There is a "Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting" thread... => SEE HERE
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Yeah, sorry for that, but that was 1st time on this forum and was 1st post I though General discussion is the best option for my question I would be glad if mod can move thread to
correct section.
schickel said:
Battery questions are a little bit annoying. How you use your phone? What apps you have? bla bla bla bla
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I meant how much custom ROM drain battery, more or less than original ROM?
schickel said:
Do you like green or red shoes? Try out different ROMs and take the ROM that is for you the best.
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I would start testing from recommended ROMs by others happy users
Anyway I will try root my phone and thanks for fully answers on my questions
Regards,
TagonZ
Last questions:
1. On what I should look when chose new ROM ?
2. Can I install other language pack for new ROM ?
Quote from other forum
Translated: was about to unlock the bootloader which in the case of Z1 danger at the moment falling a camera if you do not do backup TA
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hey there, im new with this phone, i used to have the z1 but just today i bought this cool phone, the question is, Can i root my phone without unloncking my bootloader? i search in all sections but i dont really understand. Its just a simple question though. thanks for your answer
JesusBass said:
hey there, im new with this phone, i used to have the z1 but just today i bought this cool phone, the question is, Can i root my phone without unloncking my bootloader? i search in all sections but i dont really understand. Its just a simple question though. thanks for your answer
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Simple answer. Until now, no way to root without unlocking the bootloader.
thepipespecialist said:
Simple answer. Until now, no way to root without unlocking the bootloader.
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even Kingroot ?
abo hani said:
even Kingroot ?
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Doesn't work.
Does anyone know something we could do about this device?
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nollie360flip said:
Does anyone know something we could do about this device?
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It's been explained in some posts by our fellow devs in some of the threads - the answer is: no root without UB, because the kernel has a so-called 'verity check', which detects any system modifications and panics if it finds one, and for this to be overcome, there are already some kernels which bypass this check, but as you know, you can't install a custom kernel without unlocking the bootloader.
However, I saw some hopeful post about M, something about an exploit being available for half-root, enough to backup your TA and unlock bootloader with the option of re-locking it afterwards without losing your DRM keys.
airlessproject said:
It's been explained in some posts by our fellow devs in some of the threads - the answer is: no root without UB, because the kernel has a so-called 'verity check', which detects any system modifications and panics if it finds one, and for this to be overcome, there are already some kernels which bypass this check, but as you know, you can't install a custom kernel without unlocking the bootloader.
However, I saw some hopeful post about M, something about an exploit being available for half-root, enough to backup your TA and unlock bootloader with the option of re-locking it afterwards without losing your DRM keys.
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WOW really so there is hope can you link to this progress?
I will probably get full refunds for my s7 edge after a hardware failure and was thinking about going back to sony. Last one was z3.
I know that root without unlocking bootloader is not an option anymore, but do I still lose functionality by unlocking it?
It's really dull if they practice this bs alongside with open community project. Does not make sense.
and if so, can someone care to explain why on earth unlocking bootloader for sony should restrict camera functionality and x-reality? I'm OK with DMR keys for warranty, but this why????
and is there a hack to rerstore these functions ? ( that actually does WORK 100%)
Please answer all 3 questions.
Im really not sure if I should leave sony for good.
MouldingClay said:
but do I still lose functionality by unlocking it?
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with stock kernel YES, u'll lose function like x-reality and camera quality. BUT! U can flash custom kernel with DRM fix. That kernel NOT restoring your DRMs it only restoring functions that depends from DRMs
MouldingClay said:
and if so, can someone care to explain why on earth unlocking bootloader for sony should restrict camera functionality and x-reality?
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they just want to defend their copyrights
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I'm OK with DMR keys for warranty, but this why????
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U will not lose your warranty!
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and is there a hack to rerstore these functions ? ( that actually does WORK 100%)
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flash any custom kernel with DRM fix/patch, like that
Thank you!
but unlocking bootloader loses the ability to miracast and I have yet to find a fix for that
asyyy said:
but unlocking bootloader loses the ability to miracast and I have yet to find a fix for that
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use chromecast. its better and faster