I will probably get full refunds for my s7 edge after a hardware failure and was thinking about going back to sony. Last one was z3.
I know that root without unlocking bootloader is not an option anymore, but do I still lose functionality by unlocking it?
It's really dull if they practice this bs alongside with open community project. Does not make sense.
and if so, can someone care to explain why on earth unlocking bootloader for sony should restrict camera functionality and x-reality? I'm OK with DMR keys for warranty, but this why????
and is there a hack to rerstore these functions ? ( that actually does WORK 100%)
Please answer all 3 questions.
Im really not sure if I should leave sony for good.
MouldingClay said:
but do I still lose functionality by unlocking it?
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with stock kernel YES, u'll lose function like x-reality and camera quality. BUT! U can flash custom kernel with DRM fix. That kernel NOT restoring your DRMs it only restoring functions that depends from DRMs
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and if so, can someone care to explain why on earth unlocking bootloader for sony should restrict camera functionality and x-reality?
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they just want to defend their copyrights
MouldingClay said:
I'm OK with DMR keys for warranty, but this why????
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U will not lose your warranty!
MouldingClay said:
and is there a hack to rerstore these functions ? ( that actually does WORK 100%)
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flash any custom kernel with DRM fix/patch, like that
Thank you!
but unlocking bootloader loses the ability to miracast and I have yet to find a fix for that
asyyy said:
but unlocking bootloader loses the ability to miracast and I have yet to find a fix for that
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use chromecast. its better and faster
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Like me, many of us are waiting for the pre order to come on 28th or soon after. Would love to root as soon as it is unboxed.
Is there any work around for rooting this device?
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Guys in Development section already got kernel sources - so it might come faster than we think - but surely not as soon as it is unboxed. You'll probaly have to wait at least few days.
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Guys in Development section already got kernel sources - so it might come faster than we think - but surely not as soon as it is unboxed. You'll probaly have to wait at least few days.
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Yeah I have noticed the release of kernel by Sony.
Happy to wait for rooting to come.
Thanks.
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Rooting is easy if any devs got a device already they could make one in less than 10minutes. Even they could make one now given the stock ROMs available now in dev section. What we really need to have now is how to relock the bootloader.
Riyal said:
Rooting is easy if any devs got a device already they could make one in less than 10minutes. Even they could make one now given the stock ROMs available now in dev section. What we really need to have now is how to relock the bootloader.
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So since this phone is due for release is it a known fact that the bootloader is unlocked & also what would be achieved or the benefits of relocking the bootloader. Can't imagine why to relock coz despite best efforts by top developers over a year, my current phone's bootloader is totally hack proof (not impossible but improbable)
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So since this phone is due for release is it a known fact that the bootloader is unlocked & also what would be achieved or the benefits of relocking the bootloader. Can't imagine why to relock coz despite best efforts by top developers over a year, my current phone's bootloader is totally hack proof (not impossible but improbable)
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It's features.
With relock bootloader you could do OTA, Bravia Engine, download music info and stuffs. Plus maybe get your warranty back.
I can't imagine seeing lots of people buy the Xperia Z then unlock it then weeks after sony announces 1st batch of the devices have some major bug and you can't return it back because you void your warranty because you unlocked your bootloader.
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It's features.
With relock bootloader you could do OTA, Bravia Engine, download music info and stuffs. Plus maybe get your warranty back.
I can't imagine seeing lots of people buy the Xperia Z then unlock it then weeks after sony announces 1st batch of the devices have some major bug and you can't return it back because you void your warranty because you unlocked your bootloader.
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Oh ok, worst case people could just use the old microwave trick for getting replacement under warranty!
Sorry no idea whats the connection of microwave and warranty
Riyal said:
Sorry no idea whats the connection of microwave and warranty
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There was a "trick" where people fried their radios ( wifi, BT etc ) with a microwave to claim warranty - since those are on mb itself, service usually replaces the whole board. In theory there is no way to tell that your radios were damaged on purpose by a microwave - this way some tried to claim warranty saying their radios "just stopped working". Some claim it worked, others it didn't - i myself believe it to be utter gar.... if you put your phone into microwave, you're gonna have a bad time
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There was a "trick" where people fried their radios ( wifi, BT etc ) with a microwave to claim warranty - since those are on mb itself, service usually replaces the whole board. In theory there is no way to tell that your radios were damaged on purpose by a microwave - this way some tried to claim warranty saying their radios "just stopped working". Some claim it worked, others it didn't - i myself believe it to be utter gar.... if you put your phone into microwave, you're gonna have a bad time
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Hmm I think that ain't gonna work since if you ever fried a radio sony can still check if whether the bootloader is locked or unlocked. Better fry the whole device instead :laugh:
Well I just mentioned what I read & yeah I think it's for less than 10 secs @ lowest wattage But hmm yeah I didn't know that it is yet possible to check if BL was unlocked.
PS : Dont try this as home :laugh:
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It's features.
With relock bootloader you could do OTA, Bravia Engine, download music info and stuffs. Plus maybe get your warranty back.
I can't imagine seeing lots of people buy the Xperia Z then unlock it then weeks after sony announces 1st batch of the devices have some major bug and you can't return it back because you void your warranty because you unlocked your bootloader.
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I can already provide a relock package that probably works
Only problem is that Flashtool doesn't support the new XZ yet so I won't provide it until the new Flashtool is relaesed
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krabappel2548 said:
I can already provide a relock package that probably works
Only problem is that Flashtool doesn't support the new XZ yet so I won't provide it until the new Flashtool is relaesed
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Hmm do you mean sony have new header files which made the ftfs unreadable again by flashtool?
Wow your fast didn't get the device yet development has already started huh. :good:
Riyal said:
Rooting is easy if any devs got a device already they could make one in less than 10minutes. Even they could make one now given the stock ROMs available now in dev section. What we really need to have now is how to relock the bootloader.
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Rooting on locked bootloader is difficult... One needs to hunt for exploit which can happen in 5 mins or can take months...
Relocking bootloader is easy... Just flash a ftf containing correct TA code...
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DooMLoRD said:
Rooting on locked bootloader is difficult... One needs to hunt for exploit which can happen in 5 mins or can take months...
Relocking bootloader is easy... Just flash a ftf containing correct TA code...
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Uhm yeah correct with that one but I was talking about rooting on unlocked bootloaders
rooting it while it's locked is an exploit or security flaw so yeah it's hard to do.
Regarding relocking bootloader no idea how to do since my last sony device was unlocked using testpoint and there's no way of relocking it yet at that time.
What I'm interested in at this point is anything with the drm keys. I want that to stay even when the device is unlocked. Do you know by chance where is it stored anyways? Is it on one of the partitions inside the phone or is there a seperate chipset where it is isolately stored? Or is it something like a firmware embedded to a chipset?
I am planning to upgrade from my current Xperia X10i to the Xperia Z1.
I was curious about the rooting process and things though. When the phone is rooted,
it allows your to add your on software right (like Astro File Manager or APKs not from the market)?
What is the bootloader for? Is it needed? I heard some people tell me that if you root the Z1 you lose the little
Sony things like the Bravia Engine and the camera. Is that so?
Thanks for your help.
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I am planning to upgrade from my current Xperia X10i to the Xperia Z1.
I was curious about the rooting process and things though. When the phone is rooted,
it allows your to add your on software right (like Astro File Manager or APKs not from the market)?
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You do not need root for this, just like on the x10, please note that you do not have to unlock the bootloader to root (In most cases)
What is the bootloader for? Is it needed?
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YES, its like saying do you need battery, without it the phone wont boot
I heard some people tell me that if you root the Z1 you lose the little
Sony things like the Bravia Engine and the camera. Is that so?
Thanks for your help.
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You lose some functionality (When unlocking the bootloader, not when rooting) but camera works the same. Its all explained here
Also, I do suggest you do a lot of reading, from your questions it appears you are not an experienced user, so please read before doing anything to your new phone
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I heard some people tell me that if you root the Z1 you lose the little
Sony things like the Bravia Engine and the camera. Is that so?
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You lose some functionality but camera works the same. Its all explained here
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No, you do NOT lose functionality just by rooting. Nothing at all.
You DO lose a bit of functionality by unlocking the bootloader. And some have reported that even though with an unlocked bootloader that while camera works, you lose the Bionz image processing. You also lose the Bravia engine.
As gregbradley said, you can root without unlocking the bootloader (usually). Rooting and bootloader unlocking are different things.
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No, you do NOT lose functionality just by rooting. Nothing at all.
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That was in reply to his questions about unlocking the boot, you do lose some things from unlocking the bootloader, not from rooting, I edited my post to make this clearer
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That was in reply to his questions about unlocking the boot, you do lose some things from unlocking the bootloader, not from rooting, I edited my post to make this clearer
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I assumed as much bc I know that you're no noob on this device. But I was just clarifying bc the question you quoted was directly about root, not bl. My assumption was that he was confusing the two terms, not you
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I assumed as much bc I know that you're no noob on this device. But I was just clarifying bc the question you quoted was directly about root, not bl. My assumption was that he was confusing the two terms, not you
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No worries, I know. So many people get the two confused as its treated as the same thing on other devices such as Samsung
Thanks for both of your answers.
I actually fully modded my X10i just by following directions and getting some guided help
from other great uses from this site. But that was ages ago and Sony's phones have changed a bit in their make up since the X10 days.
So I wanted to know exactly what was going on. I remember unlocking the bootloader for the X10 and losing the camera, but that was fixed (I long forgot how).
I wanted to know just what was going on with the newest generations of Xperias.
Thanks for your helps. It's much appreciated.
Hi everyone
I'm visitor of xda forum for 6 years, but this is first time that I decided to write or ask something.
I have problem with camera of my Xperia z3+. I can't record hd videos, because when I try to record my phone freeze, and also focus doesn't work when I take photos for near object. I have tried everything in settings, but not success. I have tried also to repair my phone with Xperia companion from PC, and surprisingly it works, but unfortunately only for some days (maybe one week). After that same story. Again doesn't work. Don't ask me to call or to send the phone to Sony company because it doesn't exist in my country. What do you suggest guys? To flash new rom? Lineage? Or other official stock roms, even though I have tried to flash official 7.1.1 US version.
Sorry for my English, and thank you.
did you unlock your bootloader?
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did you unlock your bootloader?
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Yes, I have unlocked it, but since I have use Xperia companion to repair my phone, again it says 'bootloader unlock allowed: No'
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Yes, I have unlocked it, but since I have use Xperia companion to repair my phone, again it says 'bootloader unlock allowed: No'
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did you backup your DRM keys? if not, they are lost forever, that's why your camera have problem focusing, x-reality stops working and so on. flashing new roms will not solve your problem.
you need to flash kernel with DRM fix.
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did you backup your DRM keys? if not, they are lost forever, that's why your camera have problem focusing, x-reality stops working and so on. flashing new roms will not solve your problem.
you need to flash kernel with DRM fix.
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Unfortunately no?
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Unfortunately no
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flash a kernel with drm fix then, camera will be fixed
zemetal said:
flash a kernel with drm fix then, camera will be fixed
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Thanks bro.
Would this method work on nougat: https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672
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flash a kernel with drm fix then, camera will be fixed
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/general/kernel-e655332-4-0-160withtwrp-t3629311
This link works perfectly. Thank you friend
Fast Eagle said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/general/kernel-e655332-4-0-160withtwrp-t3629311
This link works perfectly. Thank you friend
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haha welcome my thread btw :highfive:
Hello, what will happen when unlock bootloader? Anybody tried this on XZ2?
Most likely the same thing that happens on all Sony devices, loss of DRM license and some camera functionality. I won't be unlocking it.
I will be unlocking mine the first min I boot it up.
Android phone without root? Lol.
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I will be unlocking mine the first min I boot it up.
Android phone without root? Lol.
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Let us know what happens to DRM keys. Hopefully it's not wiped but I seriously doubt that. Root is what is keeping me from changing my XZ.
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Let us know what happens to DRM keys. Hopefully it's not wiped but I seriously doubt that. Root is what is keeping me from changing my XZ.
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They will be wiped but I personally don't care.
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They will be wiped but I personally don't care.
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How about camera
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How about camera
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Probably the same as the XZP; green pictures.
The real answer is nothing. Sony devices seem to drag on development... More than others in my experience. As tempting as it is, I won't so it until I can fake or backup the DRM keys.
I'm running out of reasons to root anyway.
Also, You will lose Ps4 remote play and you lose X-reality Engine
There will be a DRM patch as for all the previous Xperia devices...
is there any way to open the bootloader? Sony does not list the xz2
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is there any way to open the bootloader? Sony does not list the xz2
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Pick the XZP and report back.
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How about camera
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Camera is great in low light as far as experience from comming down from disasterous Z5, need to test it further during day
has anyone already used the xzp while unlocking the bootloader of his xz2?
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Pick the XZP and report back.
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did you try it yourself, take the xzp at the bootloader unlock?
is there any news because of the bootloader unlock from the z2? Has anyone done it yet?
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has anyone already used the xzp while unlocking the bootloader of his xz2?
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Choosing XZ1 may do the trick for you!
serajr said:
Choosing XZ1 may do the trick for you!
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did you try it yourself?
Sony92 said:
did you try it yourself?
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No, I didn't (I have not received it yet)!
Serajr glad to see some developers with xz2 ? if you have something to test just ask ?
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charlatan01 said:
The real answer is nothing. Sony devices seem to drag on development... More than others in my experience. As tempting as it is, I won't so it until I can fake or backup the DRM keys.
I'm running out of reasons to root anyway.
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I can agree with you, phone is not bloated, it is snapy, plenty of space so for me for now i go with good adblocker ?
And later after full root solved i will flash it ?
Sony is very good lately
Anyone?
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Anyone?
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At the moment, it would kill your DRM keys/camera.
Are you sure?
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At the moment, it would kill your DRM keys/camera.
Are you sure?
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I dont understand? Any way Can you link me a tutorial!
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I dont understand? Any way Can you link me a tutorial!
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At the moment, if you root your phone, your camera won't work anymore.
Also the X-Reality Engine for the LCD-screen stops working.
We can't backup our DRM keys at the moment to undo the unlocking.
(You also can't use the DRM-Keys from another XZ2 later, they are device specific).
We also don't know, if and when a DRM fix will be released, to hack this restriction.
That's the tutorial:
https://forum.hovatek.com/thread-21427.html
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Anyone?
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Regarding root only, as long as you unlock the bootloader of your device (agreeing to the terms of sony): do this, and you're done!
Thank you guys, thank you martin