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Can I control Chromecast with my phone without a wifi router?

Can I control Chromecast with my phone without a wifi router? I would like to be able to use just a tv, chromecast, and my phone to stream from my phone. Does anyone know if this is possible or if it will be? I tried downloading a rented movie from Google movie and turn the router off at my house. I tried to stream, but it failed for two reasons. Google movies won't let you stream downloaded movies and Chromecast won't work without my router on. Did I do something wrong here or am I missing something? I would prefer to be able to rely on my phone's data and downloaded files. Doesn't anyone think this would be possible with Chromecast? I guess I'm ultimately looking for portability without the internet.

choosetoride said:
Can I control Chromcast with my phone without a wifi router? I would like to be able to use just a tv, chromecast, and my phone to stream from my phone. Does anyone know if this is possible or if it will be? I tried downloading a rented movie from Google movie and turn the router off at my house. I tried to stream, but it failed for two reasons. Google movies won't let you stream downloaded movies and Chromecast won't work without my router on. Did I do something wrong here or am I missing something? I would prefer to be able to rely on my phone's data and downloaded files. Doesn't anyone think this would be possible with Chromecast? I guess I'm ultimately looking for portability without the internet.
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I'm pretty sure your phone/tablet/laptop need to be on the same subnet as the device so it can be found to cast to, hence the need to have everything on the same wifi router.

I think that you can tether it to your phone. You select which wi-fi network the Chromecast joins using the Chromecast app, so no reason that you couldn't enter your phone's wi-fi network.

I think the salient point from the above answers is that Chromecast seems to need an Internet connection for some things (like youtube). For Web pages the Windows chrome browser sends the content to Chromecast but other times (YouTube) it's pulling content itself from the Internet.
Once Koush's app is out hopefully you'll be able to stream more content right to your phone, so a peer to peer network might work better
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Jason_V said:
I think that you can tether it to your phone. You select which wi-fi network the Chromecast joins using the Chromecast app, so no reason that you couldn't enter your phone's wi-fi network.
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You could, but remember that Casting from your phone, computer, etc removes that device from being in the middle, and the Chromecast does the heavy lifting of grabbing the requested stream from the internet and playing it on-screen. Your phone's WiFi may be sufficient, but remember you're going to be pulling HD data over the cellular connection, and that'll probably be jerky and buffer a lot. It was neat to cast a netflix item from my phone and turn my phone OFF while it was still playing (and didn't skip a beat) to verify it wasn't using my phone for anything.

FractalSphere said:
You could, but remember that Casting from your phone, computer, etc removes that device from being in the middle, and the Chromecast does the heavy lifting of grabbing the requested stream from the internet and playing it on-screen. Your phone's WiFi may be sufficient, but remember you're going to be pulling HD data over the cellular connection, and that'll probably be jerky and buffer a lot. It was neat to cast a netflix item from my phone and turn my phone OFF while it was still playing (and didn't skip a beat) to verify it wasn't using my phone for anything.
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Good point. The handoff is amazing. I just would like the option for when I'm somewhere with no internet. In my opinion, this could be a huge deal breaker for a lot of people. Why make it so small, if it's not meant to be taken everywhere? But, who knows. From my perspective, it goes right back to the DRM issue with Xbox. I buy or rent all of the media I watch, but forcing me to be online anytime I want to view it is just controlling. It removes value.

choosetoride said:
Good point. The handoff is amazing. I just would like the option for when I'm somewhere with no internet. In my opinion, this could be a huge deal breaker for a lot of people. Why make it so small, if it's not meant to be taken everywhere? But, who knows. From my perspective, it goes right back to the DRM issue with Xbox. I buy or rent all of the media I watch, but forcing me to be online anytime I want to view it is just controlling. It removes value.
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I would tether or use one of those mobile hotspots (I don't have one, but might if I traveled extensively) and stream that way at a hotel or even someone elses house.
Ohh, which begs the question, can the Chromecast store more than one Wifi configuration? I don't think the software can do that at the moment.. Would be VERY convenient to travel to known locations back and forth.
As for direct streaming of local video, i was able to stream MP4 files no problem using a Chrome browser tab. The computer doing the rendering needs to be a higher-end PC, though - right now I have a older 'media PC' set up that my Xbox plays DLNA from and it's just a glorified storage device, it didn't want to render those videos well at all. So if you have a decent laptop, and get Connectify (free PC software that makes your laptop a hotspot) you can stream to the Chromecast directly while out at a remote location.

I believe the ad-hoc wireless functionality was only meant to facilitate initial setup, not to be a content streaming solution.
Plus, I doubt your phone would be able to handle the computing stress required to cast content directly to the Chromecast.

Roberek said:
I believe the ad-hoc wireless functionality was only meant to facilitate initial setup, not to be a content streaming solution.
Plus, I doubt your phone would be able to handle the computing stress required to cast content directly to the Chromecast.
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I stream HD Netflix from my phone's hotspot, perfect. I play my xbox online with parties using my hotpsot...perfect.
My down speeds are better than most peoples ISP down speeds so I don't see this being an issue.
The Xbox Smartglass app works from my phone while my phone is giving my Xbox internet so I don't see why the Chromecast wouldn't be able to work either.
I emailed Google about this because I honestly don't see the problem.

iTreezy said:
I stream HD Netflix from my phone's hotspot, perfect. I play my xbox online with parties using my hotpsot...perfect.
My down speeds are better than most peoples ISP down speeds so I don't see this being an issue.
The Xbox Smartglass app works from my phone while my phone is giving my Xbox internet so I don't see why the Chromecast wouldn't be able to work either.
I emailed Google about this because I honestly don't see the problem.
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let me know if you get a reply because i want to do the same thing but apparently this is the reason why it doesn't work
http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...android-phone-hotspot-ap-isolation-issue.html
seems like if you can disable ap isolation then it would fix it but i'm not sure how you'd do that

Jason_V said:
I think that you can tether it to your phone. You select which wi-fi network the Chromecast joins using the Chromecast app, so no reason that you couldn't enter your phone's wi-fi network.
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I tried doing this on my Galaxy Note II (Sprint) using WiFi tether. I was able to get it an IP and connect to the network, but it wasn't pushing the DNS info (ie wasn't getting an internet connection). Unfortunately, WiFi tether can be limited in the it's settings and CC has only a few.
Unfortunately, from what I've seen, you are unable to store multiple networks on the CC. I don't believe it was designed for that much portability. I happen to have a laptop with me and was able to do the setup. Since I wasn't able to get an internet connect, I wasn't able to test if I could cast from the GN2. My expectation is most likely not. But I had a tablet with me too, and would have tested it with that.
As for how it would preform, I assume for Netflix and application with CC extension built in, no problem. Trying to cast a Chrome tab, that could be iffy since it would depend on well WiFi tether can handle the that much traffic and the PC.
I haven't fiddled with it since then. But it's definitely possible with some tweaks.

colonelcack said:
let me know if you get a reply because i want to do the same thing but apparently this is the reason why it doesn't work
http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...android-phone-hotspot-ap-isolation-issue.html
seems like if you can disable ap isolation then it would fix it but i'm not sure how you'd do that
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I don't think there is a way to disable AP isolation. I'm no network wiz or anything but I rally think it would be an easy update on their side to grant access to using our phones hot spot.
I also noticed that the Chromecast itself generates its own hotspot...I'm assuming to let other devices connect to it and cast to it.
I'm not mad that it doesn't work ($35 isn't a wallet breaker) but I am mad that I jumped the gun and used my 3 months free promo for Netflix =(

Well, here it is guys
Hello Troy,
Thank you for contacting Google Play! It was a pleasure getting to speak with you today. Unfortunately you will need an ISP to hook up your chromecast it will not work off of a hotspot connection.
If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to reply directly to this email. Also, you can visit our help center at:
https://support.google.com/chromecast/
Regards,
Tracy
The Google Play Support Team!
On 08/10/13 00:10:27 ********** wrote:
first_name_req: Troy
last_name_req: Wisniewski
email_req: **********
Chromekey_serial:
description_req: I don't have an ISP at my residence, I use my Galaxy Nexus
hotspot for everything which always works out well. I was hoping that the
Chromecast would work connected to my hotpot but it seems to have issues.
People have stated that it won't work because your phone has to be
connected to wifi as well but my rebuttal to this is that
Microsoft's "SmartGlass" app is used to control my Xbox, through wifi. I
use my hotspot to give internet access to my Xbox and my phone can control
it even though it is technically not on a wifi network, instead it is
providing the wifi. To me it seems this is the same concept and should work
with a bit of back end support on your end. I would appreciate an email
back stating whether this is going to be possible or not. If it isn't
possible I understand. For $35 ($15 with the Netflix promo) it's not
exactly killing me. The reason I don't have an ISP is because I would
rather not be raped (for lack of better words)
P.S. Google Fiber Metro Detroit please
static_subject_line: Chromecast technical question
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I guess the the next step is for everyone to quote this and spread the word throughout the other posts here at XDA and any other forums related to this topic.

iTreezy said:
I guess the the next step is for everyone to quote this and spread the word throughout the other posts here at XDA and any other forums related to this topic.
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bull****. they're just too lazy to do it. there has to be some hotspot app that has this feature or some kind of workaround that will be figured out eventually...this was the whole reason i bought the device, this would be the ultimate portable media center. i bet that kouch guy could do it...

colonelcack said:
bull****. they're just too lazy to do it. there has to be some hotspot app that has this feature or some kind of workaround that will be figured out eventually...this was the whole reason i bought the device, this would be the ultimate portable media center. i bet that kouch guy could do it...
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Listen.. I'm with you man. I meant spread the official word of google so we can move on to focusing on developers trying to help us out
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iTreezy said:
Listen.. I'm with you man. I meant spread the official word of google so we can move on to focusing on developers trying to help us out
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lol i know man i wasn't saying bull**** to you just in general. i already linked to this to the other post on androidcentral....hopefully this helps spread the word.

Kinda late to the party here, but just FYI I have my CC tethered to my Sprint SGS4 using the native hotspot app. Did the set up using my N10, using the chromecast app.

Bump - Any new developments?
So, Ive been scouring the internet looking for some sort of simple, portable, wireless method to stream content from my Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 to a TV... with the most obvious thought of HDMI adapters and dongles. Obviously one of the leading search results and hype is "Chromecast" which led me here. I was hoping I could confirm the following and see if any progress has been made:
1. Can the Chromecast be used to stream content on a mobile device? Or is it still based strictly on app based media?
2. I doubt much progress has been made in this area, so I really doubt "screencasting" from a mobile device (tablet/phone) is possible, especially without internet connection.
3. Can Chromecast be supported by a portable wifi hotspot yet? or is it still strictly dependent on a ISP to router WiFi connection?
4. If Chromecast doesn't do it, then has any one found any devices that allows you to stream your tablet/phone to a tv wirelessly the same way that you can do if you have the MHL to HDMI cables?

varxtis said:
So, Ive been scouring the internet looking for some sort of simple, portable, wireless method to stream content from my Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 to a TV... with the most obvious thought of HDMI adapters and dongles. Obviously one of the leading search results and hype is "Chromecast" which led me here. I was hoping I could confirm the following and see if any progress has been made:
1. Can the Chromecast be used to stream content on a mobile device? Or is it still based strictly on app based media?
2. I doubt much progress has been made in this area, so I really doubt "screencasting" from a mobile device (tablet/phone) is possible, especially without internet connection.
3. Can Chromecast be supported by a portable wifi hotspot yet? or is it still strictly dependent on a ISP to router WiFi connection?
4. If Chromecast doesn't do it, then has any one found any devices that allows you to stream your tablet/phone to a tv wirelessly the same way that you can do if you have the MHL to HDMI cables?
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Read the Stickies first.

3. As long as your hotspot does not isolates clients or the AP itself, does not block or mangle multicast, and has sufficient bitrate to get the Internet-based media you want, it should work.
4. Wireless HDMI transmitter/receiver, but those cost in the $150+ range for good reason - latency is the biggest enemy. That's why applying the same mechanism that desktop Chrome tab casting won't work. It'll overload the CPU of the phone/tablet with compression and it will still have lag.

WiFi Network dependency

Hi,
Do I need a standalone WiFi network available to cast from my device to the TV or not?
Will I be able to go to friend and cast something from my tablet to his TV even thou he does not have WiFi at home?

Yes, you need a WiFi network and an Internet connection accessible from that.
If you just have your tablet and Chromecast, the Chromecast won't be able to find a network, as your tablet is not a WiFi access point.
I don't know of anyone who has tried setting up their phone/tablet as a WiFi hot spot and connecting Chromecast to that. I'm not certain how Android hotspot NATs and/or isolates clients.
Best to just bring a small wireless router. There are a number of "travel router" devices that have an internal battery or can be powered via USB.
Connect it to your friend's Internet connection, then off you go.
If the goal is just to show stuff from your tablet on your friend's TV, it might be easier/cheaper to just go hardwired with an HDMI or VGA output adapter for your tablet, if it has that option.

bhiga said:
I don't know of anyone who has tried setting up their phone/tablet as a WiFi hot spot and connecting Chromecast to that. I'm not certain how Android hotspot NATs and/or isolates clients.
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ooOOoo interesting idea.
I'll have to try that this weekend.

-Lawless said:
ooOOoo interesting idea.
I'll have to try that this weekend.
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Remember that Chromecast still needs a connection to the Internet in order to negotiate the application launch.

Thus the Hotspot. Just might work.

My friend is technologically challenged
He's got no internet at home apart from out mobile phones which we can use for internet at his place...
So, can I use my phone's Wifi hotspot to and use my phone/tablet to stream the web to his TV?
How does the Chrome cast work? Is the tablet interphase only used to set up a link between the dongle and the wifi sender/ router?

For native apps, Chromecast works more like a your phone/tablet in the fact that it pulls the requested data and plays on its own. The video isn't going from the Internet to your phone/tablet, then from your phone/tablet to the Chromecast, your phone/tablet "hands off" the request to the Chromecast and the video goes directly from the Internet to the Chromecast. The control via tablet/phone is done through a "side" channel that Chromecast listens on, which also lets your phone/tablet know what Chromecast is doing.
For example, YouTube...
You open YouTube on your phone/tablet
You find a video
You cast it to your Chromecast
Chromecast "phones home" to Google to figure out how to handle the request (I think)
Google replies with "Use the YouTube app"
Chromecast runs its YouTube app to open the link and starts playing
While it's playing on, Chromecast sends its status to your phone/tablet and listens for control commands.
So... Using your phone's WiFi Hotspot for the Chromecast might (should?) work, and what'll happen is Chromecast will connect to your phone via WiFi, and your phone will connect to Internet via mobile network.
In this case the streaming performance will be limited by both your phone's mobile data speed as well as the WiFi connection speed/stability between your phone and the Chromecast.
While I don't necessarily think this will provide a good viewing experience, it's an interesting experiment.
If you have a rooted Chromecast with Kyocast, you should be able to use the un-timebombed AllCast/AirCast to stream video stored on your phone to the Chromecast. It'll still use mobile data to "phone home" (to the Kyocast server) to figure out how to deal with the request, which will launch the AllCast/AirCast magic. From there I believe the video data will stream directly from your phone to the Chromecast, not using your mobile data... I think.

bhiga said:
For native apps, Chromecast works more like a your phone/tablet in the fact that it pulls the requested data and plays on its own. The video isn't going from the Internet to your phone/tablet, then from your phone/tablet to the Chromecast, your phone/tablet "hands off" the request to the Chromecast and the video goes directly from the Internet to the Chromecast. The control via tablet/phone is done through a "side" channel that Chromecast listens on, which also lets your phone/tablet know what Chromecast is doing.
For example, YouTube...
You open YouTube on your phone/tablet
You find a video
You cast it to your Chromecast
Chromecast "phones home" to Google to figure out how to handle the request (I think)
Google replies with "Use the YouTube app"
Chromecast runs its YouTube app to open the link and starts playing
While it's playing on, Chromecast sends its status to your phone/tablet and listens for control commands.
So... Using your phone's WiFi Hotspot for the Chromecast might (should?) work, and what'll happen is Chromecast will connect to your phone via WiFi, and your phone will connect to Internet via mobile network.
In this case the streaming performance will be limited by both your phone's mobile data speed as well as the WiFi connection speed/stability between your phone and the Chromecast.
While I don't necessarily think this will provide a good viewing experience, it's an interesting experiment.
If you have a rooted Chromecast with Kyocast, you should be able to use the un-timebombed AllCast/AirCast to stream video stored on your phone to the Chromecast. It'll still use mobile data to "phone home" (to the Kyocast server) to figure out how to deal with the request, which will launch the AllCast/AirCast magic. From there I believe the video data will stream directly from your phone to the Chromecast, not using your mobile data... I think.
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Thanx so much for all this data. Not sure whether I wanna try the rooting now. Will wait to see what Google has in store in the next month. It's rooting the dongle easy? Rooting phones comes naturally by now...
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It's really easy with Flashcast but if your Chromecast has been connected to the Internet for more than a few minutes then it has probably auto updated to a non-root able state.

-Lawless said:
ooOOoo interesting idea.
I'll have to try that this weekend.
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I've been doing that for weeks now, if you access 3G (4G) from your device then set it as an access point, and connect to its network with CC. Then all you need is something else to connect to Netflix and the same WiFi access point (a tablet for example or another phone) and you can send it to CC.
The other device is necessary because the Netflix app doesn't show the CC share icon when connected to 3G, whereas on the other device because it's connected to 3G through a mobile WiFi access point it does.
You could use a MiFi instead.
I use it in hotels this way with the CC plugged into the hotel TV (if I'm lucky)

can't cast entire screen

Hi everyone, so I just got my Chromecast but I'm having issues casting entire screen on my main PC (laptop works fine). What could possibly be blocking this? I've mess with all my routers setting from 2.4Ghz to 5GHz band and it still doesnt work. I've also tried re-downloading flash, disabled UAC, firewall, anti-virus, and anything I could think of that could cause this. Does anyone have any idea what it could be? I've searched a tons but it doesnt seem to be a common problem. Regular casting works fine but it immediate errors when I try desktop mode.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Comparing between my PC and laptop there is a few software difference.
Firmware: 14975
PC
-Windows 8.1
-Latest Chromebrowser
-Latest flashplayer
-Connected on 5Ghz
-UAC disabled
-Win firewall disabled
Laptop
-Windows 8
-Older Chromebrowser 31.0.1653
-Connected on 5Ghz
-UAC disabled
-Win firewall disabled
The only thing left I havent try is plugging direct Ethernet to the router instead of connecting wireless (its an HTPC) if the wi-fi card is the problem.
Really about just give up at this point, so frustrating!!

Could this possibly help? It's a few posts up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49532776
The guy at the end of the thread has a workaround, but there are several comments with similar problems and solutions. Hope it helps.
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gsd17 said:
Hi everyone, so I just got my Chromecast but I'm having issues casting entire screen on my main PC (laptop works fine). What could possibly be blocking this?
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Definitely try a wired connection if you can - that will help rule out general wireless congestion.

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Definitely try a wired connection if you can - that will help rule out general wireless congestion.
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So it was a bandwidth/connection issue. I switch to 2.4Ghz and it works!
My HTPC is using the onboard wi-fi card and it seems picky on the 5Ghz upstream with my router. The strange thing is that I never got that "bandwidth connection notification" or orange icon when Chromecast is having network problem; so I never bother to go back and check.
I also check out the Chromecast app and it doesnt even pick up my 5Ghz band so maybe there is some compatibility issue there.
Thanks all for the help! :good:

gsd17 said:
So it was a bandwidth/connection issue. I switch to 2.4Ghz and it works!
My HTPC is using the onboard wi-fi card and it seems picky on the 5Ghz upstream with my router. The strange thing is that I never got that "bandwidth connection notification" or orange icon when Chromecast is having network problem; so I never bother to go back and check.
I also check out the Chromecast app and it doesnt even pick up my 5Ghz band so maybe there is some compatibility issue there.
Thanks all for the help! :good:
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Glad you got it figured out. The Chromecast PC app is geared to connect to the Chromecast setup AP which is 2.4GHz.
The Chromecast Android app will use on 5GHz but only after Chromecast is set up, when it isn't trying to actively set up a Chromecast.
First I'd run Chromecast as it is and see if you encounter any issues. If not, you could just leave it alone...
But if curiosity keeps you up at night, it's possible there's a compatibility issue with your HTPC's wireless NIC and your router. Try setting your router's 5GHz AP to a lower speed range and see if that helps the connection stability.

Hi how do I cast to PC? I mean where would I connect the ccast to and what app do I need? I'm new to this lol
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rkanwar said:
Hi how do I cast to PC? I mean where would I connect the ccast to and what app do I need? I'm new to this lol
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Chromecast is made to show video on a television. You could hook it up to your PC monitor if it has an HDMI input, or you could use the CR Cast extension (check FAQ for link) to make computer Chrome act like a Chromecast.
Only really makes sense if you have an HTPC though... otherwise it's like using a TV to remote control another TV.

How can I use chromecast on a closed network (no internet)

If the network has internet initially, it buys me the time to enable screen casting after which the link remains up. The problem is when powering on the chromecast without internet access. It effectively disables the device and makes it invisible to the screen cast search.
Is there any way to circumvent this limitation? I don't need the chromecast to have any access to the internet at all for my usage.

Xenosis said:
If the network has internet initially, it buys me the time to enable screen casting after which the link remains up. The problem is when powering on the chromecast without internet access. It effectively disables the device and makes it invisible to the screen cast search.
Is there any way to circumvent this limitation? I don't need the chromecast to have any access to the internet at all for my usage.
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Nope the CCast needs Internet to load the app it uses to display your screen or anything that is being streamed to it!

Asphyx said:
Nope the CCast needs Internet to load the app it uses to display your screen or anything that is being streamed to it!
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So it might be theoretically possible to supply that app in the closed network?
It doesn't need the internet for screen casting at all, just the in-app chromecast link, which I don't use at all. I just use the mirroring functionality.

Xenosis said:
So it might be theoretically possible to supply that app in the closed network?
It doesn't need the internet for screen casting at all, just the in-app chromecast link, which I don't use at all. I just use the mirroring functionality.
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Nope!
Not unless it is rooted and you have your own local Whitelisting that points to your own app....
And you would STILL have to fnd some way of downloading and storing a local version of the mirroring app that is normally loaded from the internet to point to with your custom whitelist.

Asphyx said:
Nope!
Not unless it is rooted and you have your own local Whitelisting that points to your own app....
And you would STILL have to fnd some way of downloading and storing a local version of the mirroring app that is normally loaded from the internet to point to with your custom whitelist.
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im not able to do any kind of "offline" playback
which was a big part of me rooting ...
so how would i go about trying to have a local app for the whitelist etc ....

miniminus said:
im not able to do any kind of "offline" playback
which was a big part of me rooting ...
so how would i go about trying to have a local app for the whitelist etc ....
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Next to impossible....
The playback will stay offline but it still needs an internet connection to load the player that will do the playback....

i've been googling for hours. the whole world is crying out for this.. Give me Chromecast mirroring without internet!
Surely with a rooted phone and rooted CC it must be achievable.
Anyone ever log where the CC goes looking for the streaming app? If we can work out that surely we can:
Download it manually.
Host the app on laptop/tablet - Redirect via DNS or webserver.. proxy.. something!..
I may try and hook up my CC through my wifi internet sharing so i can wireshark to see where and what its doing via the internet.. so i can then attempt to spoof it..
(I really want to get this working on WifiAP alone - no internet). (I got a lot of places with no internet whatsover available).
Any other suggestions would be appreciated..
(I dont have a rooted CC at this point so i may have trouble).

Sage said:
i've been googling for hours. the whole world is crying out for this.. Give me Chromecast mirroring without internet!
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What you want to look at using is Miracast....But it requires having a device that supports it.
Most Miracast Dongles also have a DLNA Mode that will allow you to send streams of content to directly play on it allowing you to use other apps on the launching device.

Asphyx said:
What you want to look at using is Miracast....But it requires having a device that supports it.
Most Miracast Dongles also have a DLNA Mode that will allow you to send streams of content to directly play on it allowing you to use other apps on the launching device.
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I happen to be in a particularly rare (I hope) situation as the HTC One m7 that I have cannot properly do miracasting but can do chromecasting very well. By not properly, I mean netflix screen remains black on the receiving device when attempting to miracast.

Xenosis said:
I happen to be in a particularly rare (I hope) situation as the HTC One m7 that I have cannot properly do miracasting but can do chromecasting very well. By not properly, I mean netflix screen remains black on the receiving device when attempting to miracast.
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Yep there is a lot involved in getting any of these to work due to the limitations of both systems...
There are other ways to go about getting what you want...
1 - Get a Roku which you can send content to using a variety of means or control directly if you get a model with a remote.
2 - Get one of the many Android Sticks and load up a DLNA player (like aVia) that most CCast capable apps can send content to directly.
3 - If you have a cell phone simply buy and add a Mobile Hotspot device to the account that shares your data allotment. You won't be using a lot of data if all you are doing is streaming local content, just the small data needed to load up the receiver app the CCast needs. And you have Data and Internet capability anywhere when you need it.
But the CCast itself is meant to be little more than adding some smart capability to a TV which in most cases requires internet access.
That's why it's so cheap because it doesn't require any storage to keep Apps on the device it gets it all from the Internet....
Unfortunately it also gives Google complete control of what can be displayed on the device which is why everyone was so quick to root the device.
Perhaps in the future some Developer will make a custom rom that allows direct streaming without the need for Internet connection...
But who knows what kind of hornets nest that might stir up with the content providers. Right now everyone agrees the most important thing is to get more support from content providers for the CCast Device and concept.
Anything that might get them to shy away is probably not worth doing right now

Asphyx said:
Yep there is a lot involved in getting any of these to work due to the limitations of both systems...
There are other ways to go about getting what you want...
1 - Get a Roku which you can send content to using a variety of means or control directly if you get a model with a remote.
2 - Get one of the many Android Sticks and load up a DLNA player (like aVia) that most CCast capable apps can send content to directly.
3 - If you have a cell phone simply buy and add a Mobile Hotspot device to the account that shares your data allotment. You won't be using a lot of data if all you are doing is streaming local content, just the small data needed to load up the receiver app the CCast needs. And you have Data and Internet capability anywhere when you need it.
But the CCast itself is meant to be little more than adding some smart capability to a TV which in most cases requires internet access.
That's why it's so cheap because it doesn't require any storage to keep Apps on the device it gets it all from the Internet....
Unfortunately it also gives Google complete control of what can be displayed on the device which is why everyone was so quick to root the device.
Perhaps in the future some Developer will make a custom rom that allows direct streaming without the need for Internet connection...
But who knows what kind of hornets nest that might stir up with the content providers. Right now everyone agrees the most important thing is to get more support from content providers for the CCast Device and concept.
Anything that might get them to shy away is probably not worth doing right now
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Hello. I'm trying to mirror my new Nexus 6 to my TV using a Microsoft Wireless Display adapter. The N6 does not officially support miracast, but I enabled through a build.prop edit and using WiFi Direct. It works perfect for everything except Netflix and Hulu (just audio works with a black screen and controls displaying). I'm guessing this is a HDCP/DRM problem. Anyway around this? Would Chromecast work? The N6 does support CC., but I DO NOT have internet in my home. I don't want to stream anything on the TV. Just stream on my phone and display on the TV. If I use hotspot to establish an initial connection for the Chromecast, then turn the hotspot off, would mirroring still work?
Thanks

Direct answer I think is no if you need to get external content. If you enable a hotspot, you will be able to hook the chromecast up to your phone and it will have internet. You would then be stuck as to connect to the chromecast you would have to disable the hotspot. After doing that, your chromecast is thrown into the abyss and needs a new network to connect to.
If your intended usage is in-home then you just need a chromecast pushing device in an isolated wifi network. That wifi network can be your phone with tethering on. You can use another phone (doesn't need data, just wifi) to cast to your chromecast and get data over the tethered connection.
If you want to cast a local file to chromecast, you can get any cheapo router that would be connected to nothing and that should all work smoothly without even using a hotspot.
I happen to be in the same boat when it comes to black screen miracast and yes I think it is an HDCP problem. I am searching high and low for a way to disable HDCP checking when outputing over wifi.
Useful info though not about my phone or yours:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/help/how-to-skip-disable-hdcp-checkcan-t2854550
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...-mirroring-broken-t2599349/page2#post57456682
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660448&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49265142&postcount=118

ryan4a said:
Hello. I'm trying to mirror my new Nexus 6 to my TV using a Microsoft Wireless Display adapter. The N6 does not officially support miracast, but I enabled through a build.prop edit and using WiFi Direct. It works perfect for everything except Netflix and Hulu (just audio works with a black screen and controls displaying). I'm guessing this is a HDCP/DRM problem. Anyway around this? Would Chromecast work? The N6 does support CC., but I DO NOT have internet in my home. I don't want to stream anything on the TV. Just stream on my phone and display on the TV. If I use hotspot to establish an initial connection for the Chromecast, then turn the hotspot off, would mirroring still work?
Thanks
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No your Video issue is probably a codec issue with your wireless display adapter.
I'm pretty sure also that Netflix and Hulu have protected their displays so that screen casting would not work.
It's not HDCP/DRM per say but it is a way of protecting the content from being copied.

Xenosis said:
Direct answer I think is no if you need to get external content. If you enable a hotspot, you will be able to hook the chromecast up to your phone and it will have internet. You would then be stuck as to connect to the chromecast you would have to disable the hotspot. After doing that, your chromecast is thrown into the abyss and needs a new network to connect to.
If your intended usage is in-home then you just need a chromecast pushing device in an isolated wifi network. That wifi network can be your phone with tethering on. You can use another phone (doesn't need data, just wifi) to cast to your chromecast and get data over the tethered connection.
If you want to cast a local file to chromecast, you can get any cheapo router that would be connected to nothing and that should all work smoothly without even using a hotspot.
I happen to be in the same boat when it comes to black screen miracast and yes I think it is an HDCP problem. I am searching high and low for a way to disable HDCP checking when outputing over wifi.
Useful info though not about my phone or yours:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/help/how-to-skip-disable-hdcp-checkcan-t2854550
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...-mirroring-broken-t2599349/page2#post57456682
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660448&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49265142&postcount=118
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Thanks. This solution worked...sort of. I'm was able to tether my data from my Nexus 6 to an ipad and the chromecast to establish the initial connection. Now, I disconnect the ipad and the chromecast will still be connected to my tethered network. This allows me to stream Netflix and also mirror local content using only the chromecast and my tethered N6. It is a workaround, but I was hoping to use pure miracast and avoid tethering. But oh well.
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Asphyx said:
No your Video issue is probably a codec issue with your wireless display adapter.
I'm pretty sure also that Netflix and Hulu have protected their displays so that screen casting would not work.
It's not HDCP/DRM per say but it is a way of protecting the content from being copied.
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Thanks. That's what I thought too. See my response above.Looks like I'll be returning the microsoft adapter, unless the following will eventually work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6-miracast-t2952461/post57462471#post57462471

Asphyx said:
No your Video issue is probably a codec issue with your wireless display adapter.
I'm pretty sure also that Netflix and Hulu have protected their displays so that screen casting would not work.
It's not HDCP/DRM per say but it is a way of protecting the content from being copied.
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Is there any way around this limitation?

ryan4a said:
Thanks. This solution worked...sort of. I'm was able to tether my data from my Nexus 6 to an ipad and the chromecast to establish the initial connection. Now, I disconnect the ipad and the chromecast will still be connected to my tethered network. This allows me to stream Netflix and also mirror local content using only the chromecast and my tethered N6. It is a workaround, but I was hoping to use pure miracast and avoid tethering. But oh well.
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Thanks. That's what I thought too. See my response above.Looks like I'll be returning the microsoft adapter, unless the following will eventually work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6-miracast-t2952461/post57462471#post57462471
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Even better solution - try this out:
You can set up a mobile hotspot, pair the chromecast to that hotspot one time with another android device, and than go into the chromecast app on the hotspot phone, and finally ignore turning wifi back on and just cast screen to the chromecast. It works flawlessly.

Xenosis said:
Even better solution - try this out:
You can set up a mobile hotspot, pair the chromecast to that hotspot one time with another android device, and than go into the chromecast app on the hotspot phone, and finally ignore turning wifi back on and just cast screen to the chromecast. It works flawlessly.
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Thanks. Not sure I know what you mean. I'm really trying to eliminate the need for hotspot completely. I have an unlimited data plant and I'm worried AT&T will find out about my unauthorized tethering, then force me into a capped plan.

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Thanks. Not sure I know what you mean. I'm really trying to eliminate the need for hotspot completely. I have an unlimited data plant and I'm worried AT&T will find out about my unauthorized tethering, then force me into a capped plan.
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That's what's great about using screen cast. The chromecast won't actually be pulling data from the hotspot. It's somehow piggybacking on the devices hotspot wifi network subnet and just pushing data directly to the chromecast. Your phone will authentically be pulling any stream data from your data plan as it would normally.
ie the chromecast is just a receiver in this configuration. In terms of actually casting an app, I'm not even sure if that is possible so I don't think you'd even accidentally be having your chromecast use data.
There would be the small amount of chromecast traffic checking for an update or whatever it does idly and that would go out over your phones data.
To be safe I would recommend something like this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.formichelli.tetheringfix&hl=en
I don't think they could force you to change plans but they could charge you for the additional hotspot service. A working tether fix should spoof any hotspot traffic as your phone. Typically these giant companies aren't worried about the small-fry data users (talking insignificant here with a chromecast).

Xenosis said:
That's what's great about using screen cast. The chromecast won't actually be pulling data from the hotspot. It's somehow piggybacking on the devices hotspot wifi network subnet and just pushing data directly to the chromecast. Your phone will authentically be pulling any stream data from your data plan as it would normally.
ie the chromecast is just a receiver in this configuration. In terms of actually casting an app, I'm not even sure if that is possible so I don't think you'd even accidentally be having your chromecast use data.
There would be the small amount of chromecast traffic checking for an update or whatever it does idly and that would go out over your phones data.
To be safe I would recommend something like this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.formichelli.tetheringfix&hl=en
I don't think they could force you to change plans but they could charge you for the additional hotspot service. A working tether fix should spoof any hotspot traffic as your phone. Typically these giant companies aren't worried about the small-fry data users (talking insignificant here with a chromecast).
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Right...this method works for casting the screen and playing YouTube videos only. But if I want to use Netflix or Hulu, I have to cast it through the chromecast. When I try to simply mirror Netflix, I get the same black screen I get when using a regular miracast dongle. So the chromecast is using my data, but maybe it would be the same amount as if I was streaming Netflix directly on my phone.
And here is how I enabled tethering on an unlimited plant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wF2BZ2gx7r8
Not sure if this uses the same method as the app you referenced above, or if AT&T will notice.

ryan4a said:
Right...this method works for casting the screen and playing YouTube videos only. But if I want to use Netflix or Hulu, I have to cast it through the chromecast. When I try to simply mirror Netflix, I get the same black screen I get when using a regular miracast dongle. So the chromecast is using my data, but maybe it would be the same amount as if I was streaming Netflix directly on my phone.
And here is how I enabled tethering on an unlimited plant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wF2BZ2gx7r8
Not sure if this uses the same method as the app you referenced above, or if AT&T will notice.
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Hmm.. That is too bad. I have the same miracast problem with Netflix but chromecast always worked for screen casting (whole OS) and normal app-based casting.

AVH-4100-NEX With Chromecast

If anyone is interested, I posted a YouTube video of my 4100-NEX set up with Chormecast.

Cool thanks

That was nice!!! But i cant get the damn Android Auto or Mirrorlink or App Radio to work... i got the USB and HDMI plugged to the pioneer MHL converter to my micro usb port in my phone and it doesnt detect it
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XTeCnOX said:
That was nice!!! But i cant get the damn Android Auto or Mirrorlink or App Radio to work... i got the USB and HDMI plugged to the pioneer MHL converter to my micro usb port in my phone and it doesnt detect it
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I have my micro usb connected to usb port 2 for the android auto. Make sure the parking brake is set the first time you set up android auto. Might also have to have usb debugging turned on. Only works right now with certain phones, and needs lollipop 5.0 or better. You probably already knew that. If you haven't done the firmware update for the 4100, do that first.
Worked the first time with my Nexus 6.

pjosman said:
I have my micro usb connected to usb port 2 for the android auto. Make sure the parking brake is set the first time you set up android auto. Might also have to have usb debugging turned on. Only works right now with certain phones, and needs lollipop 5.0 or better. You probably already knew that. If you haven't done the firmware update for the 4100, do that first.
Worked the first time with my Nexus 6.
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Yes my parking brake is on. I have the Galaxy S6 which is not in the supported list but it does have Android 5.0 and I was able to download Android Auto App from Google play... I also attempted to do it with my old Galaxy S4 but it doesn't have Android 5.0 so cant download Android Auto... and to top that for MirrorLink I guess I need this Samsung Drive Link App which is not compatible with either phone!
its frustrating... Samsung is not keeping up with the Car technology... for the most part on Samsung's end I keep hearing it mostly works with the Galaxy S3 and some people have it working half ass on the Galaxy S5.

earsmccoy said:
If anyone is interested, I posted a YouTube video of my 4100-NEX set up with Chormecast.
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Whats the parking break bypass called or link please. I can't find it on amazon specifically for 4100.

killa2009 said:
Whats the parking break bypass called or link please. I can't find it on amazon specifically for 4100.
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Here is the Amazon link for the Microbpass that is needed for the 4100,
http://www.amazon.com/MicroBypass-Parking-Automatic-Interface-AVH-4100NEX/dp/B00VKQ6ECQ/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429570863&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=micro+bypass+4100

Thanks

The bypasses are relatively easy to make with a relay as well. The reason you can't just ground it out is they went above and beyond to make sure it is only active when the break is on. So, you have to create a delay in the bypass. Attach the amp on wire to the relay, the ground and the emergency break, and you're good to go. It is cheaper and quicker, as any decent electronic store will have the relay. Mine was $4 from RadioShack (RIP). This diagram shows it...
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You do not need a bypass! I just bought the 6100-nex. Turn off radio to standby mode. Hold finger 1/2" up from bottom and 1/2" in from left side of screen for like 30-60 seconds. There are YouTube vids on it. Works on all nex radios. Also only the Samsung MHL/HDMI 2.0 adapter will work. NOT the pioneer one.
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pimpsht421 said:
You do not need a bypass! I just bought the 6100-nex. Turn off radio to standby mode. Hold finger 1/2" up from bottom and 1/2" in from left side of screen for like 30-60 seconds. There are YouTube vids on it. Works on all nex radios.
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The AVH NEX's do require a bypass.
The AVIC NEX's don't require a bypass.

Nice! I'm hoping to pick up am android auto head unit soon. Once those pioneer ones come down in price that is.
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How do you get the chromecast set up to work outside your home network?

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How do you get the chromecast set up to work outside your home network?
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-Turn on your phone's WiFi hotspot
-Connect a computer to it
-Set up your chromecast to use your phones hot spot as the network
-Plug your chromecast into your radio
Now whenever you want to use your Chromecast you just have to turn on the hotspot feature on your phone. The Chromecast will connect to the hotspot and you can cast to it just like it was on your home (or any other) network.

Thanks!

Stupid question... This vs mirroring or like the unchained app.... no cables?? Not trying to be an ass about to pull the trigger on the appradio4 or 4100-nex so trying to see all the possibilities.. Thanks

earsmccoy said:
If anyone is interested, I posted a YouTube video of my 4100-NEX set up with Chormecast.
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Thank you! Just got the 6 edge plus last week which lacks any form of video out via hdmi/mhl which was unfortunate but this would resolve that issue! Going to try this asap

Got mine all hooked up yesterday. Seems to be working good. Kind of takes a bit of time getting all synched up, but works good when going.
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This might be a stupid question, but if you set your Chromecast up to stream to your AVH-4100NEX over your phone's WiFi hotspot and then bring it back into your house to plug into your TV will it automatically recognize your home WiFi network or do you have to set it up again? I haven't gone through the initial setup process with my Chromecast for a while so I don't remember if it has memory for prior network setups. Not that I'll use the Chromecast in my car all that much, but they are cheap enough to justify buying two units if it becomes a hassle to reconfigure the Chromecast every time you transfer it between your home and car.

kjdBonez said:
This might be a stupid question, but if you set your Chromecast up to stream to your AVH-4100NEX over your phone's WiFi hotspot and then bring it back into your house to plug into your TV will it automatically recognize your home WiFi network or do you have to set it up again? I haven't gone through the initial setup process with my Chromecast for a while so I don't remember if it has memory for prior network setups. Not that I'll use the Chromecast in my car all that much, but they are cheap enough to justify buying two units if it becomes a hassle to reconfigure the Chromecast every time you transfer it between your home and car.
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I don't think so. As far as I know, the Chromecast will only look for the network it was set up on. ( sorry for the late response.)