I currently have a windows phone 7 that I unlocked to allow WiFi tethering. I'm looking into vetting a lumia phone, however I don't want to change my plan.
Can windows phone 8 be forced to allow WiFi tethering as my current windows phone 7 is?
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1031982 said:
I currently have a windows phone 7 that I unlocked to allow WiFi tethering. I'm looking into vetting a lumia phone, however I don't want to change my plan.
Can windows phone 8 be forced to allow WiFi tethering as my current windows phone 7 is?
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I'm not sure if AT&T devices allow for tethering as is. If I'm correct, then this needs to be enabled by the carrier. I had this issue with my T-Mo 8X. It was on T-Mo, and tethering worked, then I went to Family Mobile, and it wouldn't. I'm currently on MetroPCS, and they allow tethering so its enabled once again. Same thing with Visual Voicemail.
1031982 said:
I currently have a windows phone 7 that I unlocked to allow WiFi tethering. I'm looking into vetting a lumia phone, however I don't want to change my plan.
Can windows phone 8 be forced to allow WiFi tethering as my current windows phone 7 is?
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I'm not sure if AT&T devices allow for tethering as is. If I'm correct, then this needs to be enabled by the carrier. I had this issue with my T-Mo 8X. It was on T-Mo, and tethering worked, then I went to Family Mobile, and it wouldn't. I'm currently on MetroPCS, and they allow tethering so its enabled once again. Same thing with Visual Voicemail.
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Sometimes its carrier dependent, sometimes its device dependent. If you switch to a subsidiary of your original carrier it will sometimes work. On WP7 there were tutorials to do this, but since the 4G/LTE switch things have been changed on the backend where it checks for "entitlement". Android hackers that have experience with how the process occurs won't help us....
AT&T allows tethering if you pay for a large data plan. My sister has a Windows Phone 8 and if she tries to enable tethering on it is says to call AT&T to activate it.
When I looked at it, it was more specific saying that you need a data plan that allows it.
In a pinch, you could use Tether-X I suppose. I've used it in those situations, and it worked fine for my needs.
I got the ATT 920 around September last year.
Day 2, I flashed it with the unbranded French ROM to get Amber and GDR2. There is a thread over at WPCentral regarding that flash procedure and there was a weird trick that enabled tethering. I dont remember the exact procedure, but I think it involved downloading the Spanish keyboard (as random as it sounds it worked.)
So I enjoyed the ability to tether, but my 300 MB plan didn't make it practical. With the Black update, my tethering was back to normal (meaning not working) but I heard of people getting it back by hard resetting their phone and doing something. I'm not sure off the top of my head.
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In a pinch, you could use Tether-X I suppose. I've used it in those situations, and it worked fine for my needs.
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As you have experience with this app, can you let me know if a tablet or iPod can be tethered to your phone?
It's rare, but on occasion I allow some other things to connect to my phone such as a deactivated android phone. I really only need to allow 2 devices at once as a minimal.
To answer your actual question (which everybody seems to be missing): The only phones we currently have that has the required unlock level to change stuff like that are the Huawei W1 (maybe others than the W1?) which is very low-end, and the Samsung ATIV line (ATIV S, etc.) which are pretty good although not on the same level as the new top-end Nokia devices (they were good at launch, but are now about a year old). Still far more powerful than any WP7 device, though.
Unfortunately, I don't know that anybody has found the required policies to set, yet. It's possible, but highly unlikely, that the same provxml used on WP7 could be used with WP8; provxml is very limited on WP8 so even though we can theoretically use it on interop-unlocked phones, it's not very useful. However, hotspot control may be one of the things it's useful for. Otherwise, there are capabilities (normally locked, but interop-unlock usually also means capability-unlock) related to setting those features as well. An app could be written that uses such capabilities. We would simply need to figure out how to do it...
I'm not thinking that would work for you. The Tether-X app requires your WP to be connected to a WiFi network, and the internet sharing is limited to the browser, with proxy set up in LAN settings. As its completely browser dependant with the need to have an existing network to connect to, I'm not sure how it would work for you. There's almost always workarounds to everything though. That app does have a free trial with limits only on the number of connections per month. I suggest try it, play around.
I'll have to try it out on my sisters phone. Otherwise I'll have to really compare what family plan we have now to what the new one that allows tethering.
Forgot to mention I plan on registering the phone with a developer account to get the latest updates from MS.
AT&T is so slow at approving things.
i've never had an issue activating the wifi hotspot on my lumia 920. i pay AT&T nothing extra for this feature; just go to settings, internet sharing, and slide to enable.
I also have this feature on my lumia 2520, and again, pay nothing extra.
brantmacga said:
i've never had an issue activating the wifi hotspot on my lumia 920. i pay AT&T nothing extra for this feature; just go to settings, internet sharing, and slide to enable.
I also have this feature on my lumia 2520, and again, pay nothing extra.
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What plan do you have? I am on the old family plan.
Did you get your phone from AT&T?
I have Internet Sharing available on my AT&T HTC Titan WP7, Lumia 520 GoPhone version, and AT&T Lumia 920.
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Well, I'm on a AT&T Family Plan. I checked my sisters phone, a Nokia Lumia 920, and I got an error telling me to order a plan that supports Internet Sharing.
I have a gut feeling that tethering is controlled, because Microsoft deliberately uses different APN for the phone's own internet connection and for the internet connection sharing. So when you try to enable the feature, phone tries communicating via the internet sharing APN, and in case it is now allowed by the carrier, fails and reports back the error.
I have a TMo Lumia 925 and my main carrier is Telus (in Canada). The unlocked phone used to work fine with internet sharing in Canada, and was giving me wrong plan error when I was trying to use it with my $2/day TMo prepaid plan while in US. After Black update TMo broke the internet sharing with Telus as well, so I flashed one of the Latin America ROMs to be able to get both Black update and Internet Sharing working with Telus. However, even with the Latin America ROM it still fails to turn it on with TMo.
I think the Access Point app contains settings for all carriers, and it doesn't let you modify the internet sharing APN. I bet that if we were able to somehow trick the phone to set the same APN for it's own connection and for internet sharing, carriers would have much harder time blocking it on plans that are not supposed to have it.
Well I'll have to really compare my options in terms of AT&T's plans.
In my opinion, its real stupid that carriers would block this stuff.
1031982 said:
In my opinion, its real stupid that carriers would block this stuff.
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No, it is not. The $30 3GB DataPro smartphone dataplan does not allow tethering. The carriers typically sell more expensive dataplan which allows tethering. All AT&T brand phones have always prohibited any form of tethering, regardless of smart or dumb phones.
To get around such restriction, you need to use factory unlocked phones. Carrier unlocked phones may or may not work depend on carrier's policy on tethering.
Or if you are adventurous enough, then you can choose a carrier phone that can be de-branded. Good luck finding the generic firmware and tools for flashing the phones. I was able to get Internet Sharing working on Nokia Lumia 520 GoPhone after debranding with generic firmware.
Any idea where to get either the firmware or a factory unlocked phone other then eBay? I would prefer to just get the firmware, but from what I have heard Nokia has decided to block access to the firmware images and possibly the tools as well.
Reason being the upfront cost of the phone.
My thoughts on it being stupid is using AT&T's reasoning for the limitation. There statement is to help prevent customers from going over there data plan. They could just as easily have a warning every time you enable the feature.
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My thoughts on it being stupid is using AT&T's reasoning for the limitation. There statement is to help prevent customers from going over there data plan.
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Well, that's what every carrier wants their customers to believe. They are doing this to protect the customers, including forcing dataplan on every smartphones they know of without the option to pay-per-use or just a simple data blocked. The customers are too *dumb* to disable mobile data on their *smart* phones.
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Hey guys,
I was wondering, which one of the different US providers would you recommend to use with an imported unlocked diamond2?
I'm currently with AT&T, and I'm having a lot of issues to connect to MediaNet... For some unknown reason, the phone looses its connection:
- every single time after either a reboot or using wifi
- on time to time, randomly without any specific reason
My main concern being: it's a pain to get it back! It takes several reboot and retry to re-setup the data connection.
I was wondering if some of you have actually experience better result with other provider or even with AT&T... (note: i m on a pay-as-you-go plan for phone and data)
Thanks,
Kandjar
I, too, am using Diamond2 with ATT and I'm ok with it. Granted, I've given up trying to use MediaNet on this phone but not really missing it.
I'm on T-mobile with the $5.99 unlimited data (T-Mobile Web). It's now $9.99 Web2Go if you are starting a new contract with limited data. Everything is working fine and the other day I got my email working on the diamond2 through the $5.99 plan.
No connection problems at all.
Same here with T-Mobile and the T-Zones plan, my call quality is pretty good with no drops & edge has descent speeds.
Wow, ok, once my pay-as-you-go expired, I'll definitively check T-Mobile!
AT&T data plan is slow and not very stable for me...
The main reason I need it is: mails!
I got so addicted to the 'read mail everywhere' plan, it's scary... When it doesn't work, it's bugging the heck out of me
I found in the 'phone setting' that it's possible to change the baseband; so instead of having them set to 'auto', I'm trying to force them to be:
'gsm' and '1900+850' to see if there is any improvements.
In any case T-Mobile does sound a lot cheaper...
I m currently paying $100 for 400 minutes (good for a year) and $20/month for 100MB... That's about $30/months.
Thanks for the replies
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Same here with T-Mobile and the T-Zones plan, my call quality is pretty good with no drops & edge has descent speeds.
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Edge on T-mo has really good speeds here in CO. That's why I don't mind not having 3G. Soon enough manufacturers will be making quadband 3g handsets. I hope.
Any who kandjar if you need help with the data settings if and when you switch to T-mo just post up. If you search google for T-mobile wireless configurator you can get the settings by selecting any WinMo phone in the list ut you have to change some things.
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Disregard that last part about the configurator. The D2 finds the settings automagically for you. But you still have to change 1 or 2 things so it'll work.
That's cool, thanks!
By the way: does the youtube app work with T-Mobile?
It doesn't seem to work at all with AT&T...
Or does it only work with 3g?
kandjar said:
That's cool, thanks!
By the way: does the youtube app work with T-Mobile?
It doesn't seem to work at all with AT&T...
Or does it only work with 3g?
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Youtube worked on my Diamond2 with ATT. I don't have a data package with ATT, but I have wifi in my complex and I can watch Youtube on the Wifi.
As well as sending/receiving emails.
True, I should have been a bit more explicit..
I also managed to get it to work through wifi...
I m just wondering if this work with data plan (through medianet ...)
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True, I should have been a bit more explicit..
I also managed to get it to work through wifi...
I m just wondering if this work with data plan (through medianet ...)
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Yes it works fine on T-mobile edge. Maybe AT&T edge is a bit slow? IDK? This is on T-zones might I add. Not T-mobiles full web service. Who needs that with opera available?
Hi there:
Need help into making my new (used from ebay) G1 to work on T-mobile PR. Long story short T-mobile bought Suncom like a year ago. My SIM card is still SunCom and I use the SunCom APN setting to access the internet. I have the 5.99 internet that have being working flawlessly in my iphone 2G (no hacks requiered or proxys). Apparently the Suncom APNs don't have data restrictions since Suncom din't use to have different internet packages like T-Mobile does.
Anyway my problems is that if I put my Suncom sim in the G1 it works but it is roaming all the time (doesn't happen with my iphone wish says t-mobile all the time, never roaming). If I put the Suncom APNs I get edge and works, but still is in roaming and I am sure they going to charge me for it. If I go to search for Networks I get a blank Network (to the one it does register) and the other two GSM carries in PR (Claro and AT&T).
Notice that the phone is rooted and was running Jachero 2.7.3 and now Cyanogen 3.6.8.1., recovery image 1.3.1 and latest SPL and radio.
My guess is that since T-mo can detect the phone they are blocking the phone with my current voice and data plan. I already call them and they told me I have to change my plan to the $35 dollars a month. Notice that T-mo does not have 3G in PR (so I think that is to much money for edge only and txt). I offer to pay the regular internet of $20 and my package of $5 for txt but still to no avail it has to be the $35 dollars to make the phone to work on t-mo. I have unlocked the phone just to try, but still the same roaming problem.
I know that it must be an internal blockage to the phone because the iphone works perfectly on t-mo and my actual settings. My question: If there any way to change the phone to make it look to the t-mo networks like a sony ericsson or iphone? I have old phones that I can use the imei of. Anyway to force the phone to register to the t-mo network and put it to work? I now people that works there (Although I don't know if they have access to do changes in the system).
Any help to get me in the right direction will be appreciated.
Before people began to tell me that changing IMEI can be ilegal, I know it. The phone is not stolen (I can prove it). The IMEI numbers I have to change it for are mine (I can prove it, I have a none working k750, w800, W600, lg shine, old nokia 6200, water damage iphone 2G, fully working K790, and fully working iphone 2G, yes I have a lot of phones good and bad ones).
If it can be done please advice even if your going to help me do it. Thanks in advance.
OK so I have a friend on AT&T with an iphone. Apparently AT&T locks down a lot of stuff so that it only works over wifi and won't go over their cell data network.
I haven't really seen that kind of an issue with Sprint so it may be moot however, is there an app on the market (or for rooted phones) that allows you to trick your phone into thinking it is using wifi when it is actually going over the cellphone data network?
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OK so I have a friend on AT&T with an iphone. Apparently AT&T locks down a lot of stuff so that it only works over wifi and won't go over their cell data network.
I haven't really seen that kind of an issue with Sprint so it may be moot however, is there an app on the market (or for rooted phones) that allows you to trick your phone into thinking it is using wifi when it is actually going over the cellphone data network?
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I don't think you'll ever need anything like it. When the need comes, we'll see something I am sure. They really don't care what kind of data we push. I think Verizon may limit Skype to WiFi, but that has probably been hacked.
Hey all. Quick question today. I'm taking my first overseas trip this weekend and I'd rather not be without the ever-handy N1. I don't want to run up costs or have to deal with temp phones/sim cards, so I'm going to go with our amazing Dev Team's Wifi Calling method.
I've researched and seemed to have found that even if overseas, WIFI calling will not charge me for roaming if the calls are made back to the US, and I'll confirm that with TMO, but can anyone let me know if they've had success using the process overseas? Is the phone usable once I'm in Asia or Europe if it's still carrier locked to TMO, or will I see some sort of lock out screen?
Thanks for all of your help!
I can't believe that almost a year after the phone is out, some people still don't bother reading before asking...
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CARRIER-LOCKED N1 !!!
Now, if you're asking whether the WiFi calling app detects the current network and locks you out in some way - that would completely defeat the purpose of WiFi calling, which is made from places with no reception, so I don't believe it's the case.
haha yeah, no nexus one phones exist that are locked in any way. all sold on planet earth were sold unlocked and carriers just sold them that way.
Good idea using the official wifi calling overseas.
I ignored wifi calling because of the two reasons below, but your idea makes it worth a try.
1) uses your minutes
2) supposedly only for $25 data plan users.
Try to set a proxy (located overseas,working) on your router to test, it may be possible with dd-wrt. Not sure.
The "WiFi calling" application if that is the one you are installing like a phone in a blue speech baloon?
I have used that when out of country before with a Blackberry to avoid those hideous charges while traveling.
That was made for T-Mobile and would not work unless you are a T-Mobile subscriber per my understanding. Not just regular sip client or anything like that.
sorry for my english (using Google Translate)
lyumia 822 unlocked: GSM use the SIM card - not working "Internet Sharing" (tethering). Why? What can be done?
What's the error message? "Not working" tells us nothing much.
Also, isn't the 822 primarily a CDMA phone? I mean, yeah it has a SIM slot and apparently it supports GSM as well, but it seems odd to buy a phone that's basically a CDMA variant instead of one that's intended primarily for GSM networks.
One quick check: is your data connection working in general at all? You might have to tell it to use the GSM network instead of looking for a CDMA one.
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What's the error message? "Not working" tells us nothing much.
Also, isn't the 822 primarily a CDMA phone? I mean, yeah it has a SIM slot and apparently it supports GSM as well, but it seems odd to buy a phone that's basically a CDMA variant instead of one that's intended primarily for GSM networks.
One quick check: is your data connection working in general at all? You might have to tell it to use the GSM network instead of looking for a CDMA one.
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Verizon 822 is a LTE phone, all Verizon LTE phones NEED a SIM card to run (Verizon is changing to a full SIM card model with LTE...it's about time) and it is factory unlocked (All Verizon LTE phones are SIM unlocked).
To the OP, the Verizon 822 has internet sharing disabled from the carrier, the only way to enable it is to contact Verizon on their network to use it. I know of no hacks of any type to enable it (if someone knows, let me know, I am interested too)
It seems to work fine out of box on the 928, but I have no idea if that is actually hard coded. I remember that for WP7, everyone had to download
JerryJiang's Tethering unlocker for Verizon Trophy.
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It seems to work fine out of box on the 928, but I have no idea if that is actually hard coded. I remember that for WP7, everyone had to download
JerryJiang's Tethering unlocker for Verizon Trophy.
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I have a 928, it tells me I need to ennable it from my carrier if I want to use it. Are you using Verizon and do you have "tethering" enabled on your account or did you find a work-around for it ?
I would love to use it without paying another $20-30 a month when I only need it every once and a while.
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...the Verizon 822 has internet sharing disabled from the carrier, the only way to enable it is to contact Verizon on their network to use it. I know of no hacks of any type to enable it (if someone knows, let me know, I am interested too)
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I already know.
there's such a project opengarden (but it does not support WP)
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I have a 928, it tells me I need to enable it from my carrier if I want to use it. Are you using Verizon and do you have "tethering" enabled on your account or did you find a work-around for it ?
I would love to use it without paying another $20-30 a month when I only need it every once and a while.
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No, unfortunately. We have their share everything plan. 20GBs of data including our HomeFusion thingy. I tried to look inside ##PST#, along with the 000000 password, but none of the fields can be changed on the 928. Any luck on yours?
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No, unfortunately. We have their share everything plan. 20GBs of data including our HomeFusion thingy. I tried to look inside ##PST#, along with the 000000 password, but none of the fields can be changed on the 928. Any luck on yours?
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No, I am on the unlimited plan still with me 928...I can't edit anything. Maybe Verizon changed the password for editing permissions?
Tether X it in the market
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No, I am on the unlimited plan still with me 928...I can't edit anything. Maybe Verizon changed the password for editing permissions?
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By FCC law they are supposed to either use the 000000 code or 123456. Its because of one of the bands they use require this as well as all devices being carrier unlocked. It seems though they moved the settings into the sim, so the only way it might be able to be modified is through the Qualcomm boot loader which hasn't been pursued yet.
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Tether X it in the market
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What Tether-X are you referring to?
Just sharing my experience, running 8.1 on nokia lumia 822 in Guatemala with TIGO operator and was having the same issue reported on first post, internet sharing option just hanged and it did not work, today I just install access point app, made sure my TIGO APN settings were detected just by opening and seeing it, went to internet sharing and it finally worked. easier that what expected it was going to be.