SMS app with good gif support? - Moto X Q&A

When I had an iphone, I could send seemingly any gif via text. It didn't seem to matter how large the gif was, and I'm guessing that the sms client was doing some work to compress the gif. On this phone (w/ textra), none of them seem to ever go through. Are there any messaging apps that will allow me to send gifs?

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[Q] long text messages automatically converting to mms

whenever i copy paste text from browser of more than 160 characters to text someone, the message automatically converts to an MMS. is there anyway to stop this? i want to send long text messages. if i type manually i'm able to send long messages. trouble only while copy pasting from clipboard (browsers).
thank you.
I'd love to get rid of that as well...
i found that the stock app cannot do it. need to go for third party apps like go sms pro or handcent..
Had the same problem on my Dell Streak running Froyo ... Same problem on Note and Gingerbread ... I dumped the stock messaging and moved to Chomp SMS and now Handcent SMS ... No problems in either app and I sometimes send rather long texts
If you do fancy changing your SMS app go to the Play Store and search BigSMS. It simply allows you to send huge texts.
Great. So i've probably been running up MMS costs unknowingly. Ridiculous. Should send Samsung the bill.

Windows Phone 8 OS - Is there native support for group texts (iMessage)?

Does windows phone OS support group texting? Mostly concerned with iPhone users sending a group text to me and I want to reply all back and keep a single thread of chat/text going between the other users.
Currently the best option on Android is using GOsmspro or handcent and enabling group MMS threading. Problem is this is TERRIBLY slow even on my S3 because it has to convert each message to MMS and send and upon receiving a reply back from any party member it is received as MMS and then converted and then placed into the group thread. Extremely laggy if multiple texts are sent at in a short amount of time. Just wondering how Windows Phone 7 or 8 might handle this. It's making me really consider going back to iPhone since I like to keep tabs on my bro n sis via this group texting.
I am using groupme at the moment but it's a third party system and only supports sms if using the sms push, or else MMS via 3rd party app, which requires each sender to have the app and use this separate app to communicate.
Yes, Windows Phone 7 already supports this. It works via MMS on all platforms, but that's transparent when it's built in. The WP7 implementation is pretty good; I can't imagine they'd drop it in WP8.
bkaul said:
Yes, Windows Phone 7 already supports this. It works via MMS on all platforms, but that's transparent when it's built in. The WP7 implementation is pretty good; I can't imagine they'd drop it in WP8.
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Thank you. Is it pretty seemless? As in sending and receiving is pretty smooth as if sending an sms to a single user? I assume that's what you mean as in it's transparent. If so, this is great news.
Most of my family have iPhone and use group message. Was using gosms but it slow like the OP said. I use wp7 for 2 weeks and their group message is fast. I return wp7 and will wait for wp8.
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By transparent, I mean you don't really notice the difference between SMS and MMS when there's no image attached, since in Windows Phone the UI is identical - they're both messages in the same messaging app. But any "group text" is a MMS rather than an SMS, as far as how it's sent on the back end. It is very seamless - Microsoft's Messaging app handles both types of messages very well.
You'll see a message to/from some number of recipients with the individual recipients listed as screen space allows (you can tap to pop up the full list if it runs off the edge of the screen), and on each incoming message, the sender is listed near the timestamp so you can tell who sent it. Everything in that conversation, from any of the recipients, shows up in the same conversation thread no matter how many people you're texting. When you create a new text, you can add multiple recipients just like you would for an e-mail, etc.
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By transparent, I mean you don't really notice the difference between SMS and MMS when there's no image attached, since in Windows Phone the UI is identical - they're both messages in the same messaging app. But any "group text" is a MMS rather than an SMS, as far as how it's sent on the back end. It is very seamless - Microsoft's Messaging app handles both types of messages very well.
You'll see a message to/from some number of recipients with the individual recipients listed as screen space allows (you can tap to pop up the full list if it runs off the edge of the screen), and on each incoming message, the sender is listed near the timestamp so you can tell who sent it. Everything in that conversation, from any of the recipients, shows up in the same conversation thread no matter how many people you're texting. When you create a new text, you can add multiple recipients just like you would for an e-mail, etc.
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I've been having trouble getting this to work. The group text I was a part of on my iPhone isn't coming through on my Lumia 920 at all. iMessage is stuck authorizing my phone number, so that may be a part of it, but as of yet I haven't found out what the issue is. Anyone else having this issue?
Apple has never been big on interoperability, but you can easily do group texts natively without worrying about iMessage.
Kindrex said:
I've been having trouble getting this to work. The group text I was a part of on my iPhone isn't coming through on my Lumia 920 at all. iMessage is stuck authorizing my phone number, so that may be a part of it, but as of yet I haven't found out what the issue is. Anyone else having this issue?
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You will have to turn off iMessage on your iPhone. You probably don't have your iPhone anymore, but what needs to happen is to unlink your phone number from iMessage. Did you do that? If not I think you can unregister your phone here:
http://holgr.com/blog/2011/12/howto-deactivating-imessage-on-lost-or-sold-iphones/
Also turn on group chat in your messaging settings. I saw this while messing with a WP8 in store.

[Q] merging multiple sms into 1 message for the recipient (at&t)

Hello there. At&t user here. I have been using at&t for a while and can't switch carriers, and was wondering if anyone could solve this dilemma for me.
I need long messages to get merged to one message for the recipient, which would probably best be suited by having them converted to mms.
I was wondering if the moto x has this feature, as it is the one phone I am looking at on at&t, or if anyone knows an app that can do this, and if I could install this on the moto x unrooted.
Handcent for example, merges them into one and converts to mms, but it needs the sms to be at least 3 sms's long before it does that, so that ones that are between 160-320 characters still get split. I know that gosms doesn't allow this either. This is work-related, so if anyone could help me I would be forever thankful.
dannyry1 said:
Hello there. At&t user here. I have been using at&t for a while and can't switch carriers, and was wondering if anyone could solve this dilemma for me.
I need long messages to get merged to one message for the recipient, which would probably best be suited by having them converted to mms.
I was wondering if the moto x has this feature, as it is the one phone I am looking at on at&t, or if anyone knows an app that can do this, and if I could install this on the moto x unrooted.
Handcent for example, merges them into one and converts to mms, but it needs the sms to be at least 3 sms's long before it does that, so that ones that are between 160-320 characters still get split. I know that gosms doesn't allow this either. This is work-related, so if anyone could help me I would be forever thankful.
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I have a stock, unrooted moto x on verizon, but I imagine the settings in the stock messaging app would be the same. There is an option to use MMS for Group Messaging that states "Use MMS to send a single message when there are multiple recipients". Maybe just adding your own number along with the intended recipient's and sending the long message as a group message would be an easy fix? SImilar to copying yourself in on an email.
Edit: Just tested this idea and it works. I sent a long message to myself and another recipient and it automatically sent as a single MMS. Did not receive split messages on either phone, so this could be a workaround for you.

[Q] .GIF Support

Are there any Android text messaging applications that enable the sending of .gif files? I have tried multiple applications including Handcent, GoSMS Pro, 8sms, and Hangouts. Any of those applications are able to receive .gifs but none can send them via text.
All my Google search results simply return hits for the new version of Hangouts which only sends gifs via the chat protocol.
I'm running a T-Mobile X fully updated.
One last try to see what solutions everyone else is using.
Hangouts and them as well.
madzozs said:
Hangouts and them as well.
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As I stated in the opener Hangouts only works via the g chat function.

Live message, does this mean the native messaging app can now send GIFs?

I had to use 3rd party messaging apps like Textra to be able to send GIFs, but now it seems that since the stock messaging app utilizes Live Messages by converting them into GIFs, we can now send GIFs in general without size limits. Can anyone confirm this? I would love to be able to take full advantage of Live Messages and sending random GIFs without size limits using just the native messaging app.
Lol that was the first thing I thought of as well during the conference
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Never occurred to me but it's rather cool if so...
djinn415 said:
I had to use 3rd party messaging apps like Textra to be able to send GIFs, but now it seems that since the stock messaging app utilizes Live Messages by converting them into GIFs, we can now send GIFs in general without size limits. Can anyone confirm this? I would love to be able to take full advantage of Live Messages and sending random GIFs without size limits using just the native messaging app.
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I just watched a Youtube video where the guy explained that with Live Message you can create a message by writing/drawing with the S-Pen and it converts it to a standardized GIF so any phone can see the animation. It's not like Textra where they have a dedicated link to grab GIFs and attach to your text.
Check this video out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XCLYtY6WjQ
i've been playing with Live Message on my Note FE with Hangouts; when done, i have to "share the GIF" as a picture versus sending right away to the person i'm texting. seems like a nice feature, not sure how often i would use it tho.
So now it looks like they updated their native messaging app able to send up to 10mb size on the Galaxy s8 series, not sure about lower models. Unfortunately, when using third party keyboards on the native messaging app, the GIFs are still sent as a link unless you download and save them to your phone and send it as an attachment. This is will probably be the same for the Note 8 as well. Why cant they just embed it like the rest? oh well....baby steps I guess. =/
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djinn415 said:
I had to use 3rd party messaging apps like Textra to be able to send GIFs, but now it seems that since the stock messaging app utilizes Live Messages by converting them into GIFs, we can now send GIFs in general without size limits. Can anyone confirm this? I would love to be able to take full advantage of Live Messages and sending random GIFs without size limits using just the native messaging app.
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This Sucks I got my Note 8 two days ago and you will have to us Textra or another app to send Live Messages. So my question is why include the feature that you can't use with downloading another app on the NOTE 8?
I have the unlocked version of the Note 8 and just sent a live message using the stock messaging app just fine.
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Tetra won't compress the image like stock will. In Textra I tried to make an image and it was 9mb, system wouldnt send. Used stock app and it compressed same image to 600kb and sent fine. Tetra or any other app needs to make that adjustment and it doesn't.
I have seen weird behavior with live messages and the stock messaging app. It will play an animation, but often it is truncated, and doesn't run at the proper speed when using the "share" function of live messages. I haven't tried saving them and sending it via an attachment or something else.
Likely something to do with the compression mentioned above I would think.
superzeb28 said:
This Sucks I got my Note 8 two days ago and you will have to us Textra or another app to send Live Messages. So my question is why include the feature that you can't use with downloading another app on the NOTE 8?
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I like textra but i cant send live messages on my note 8 with it. I had to use the stock app
M2Iceman said:
Tetra won't compress the image like stock will. In Textra I tried to make an image and it was 9mb, system wouldnt send. Used stock app and it compressed same image to 600kb and sent fine. Tetra or any other app needs to make that adjustment and it doesn't.
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Same thing here. Using the Note 8 app ports on my FE.
Futant said:
I have seen weird behavior with live messages and the stock messaging app. It will play an animation, but often it is truncated, and doesn't run at the proper speed when using the "share" function of live messages. I haven't tried saving them and sending it via an attachment or something else.
Likely something to do with the compression mentioned above I would think.
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If your sending to anyone who doesn't have a Samsung device on the same carrier as you it compresses the hell out of the message..... Of you send to someone with a Samsung device on the same carrier it uses Samsung's "RCS" and doesn't compresses so like me and my dad send each other cool fully animated ones... But the ones I send to my fiance's iPhone get all pixelated and choppy.... But it's better than nothing. On my s8 any gif over 1mb would fail. Now it just compresses them for me. I'd rather have that than trying to find another app all the time.
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If your sending to anyone who doesn't have a Samsung device on the same carrier as you it compresses the hell out of the message..... Of you send to someone with a Samsung device on the same carrier it uses Samsung's "RCS" and doesn't compresses so like me and my dad send each other cool fully animated ones... But the ones I send to my fiance's iPhone get all pixelated and choppy.... But it's better than nothing. On my s8 any gif over 1mb would fail. Now it just compresses them for me. I'd rather have that than trying to find another app all the time.
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Can't you go into settings, and change image size from best available to original? So the images will not be compressed.
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I read that if you change the MMS setting in Textra from System to Legacy Live Messages will send. Lots of positive feedback too but it does not work for me on my AT&T N8. Works fine in stock message app and people who received the GIF say it looks fine. They are all iPhone users. I prefer to use Textra. Gifs also send in Yappy SMS app.
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mardukeme said:
Can't you go into settings, and change image size from best available to original? So the images will not be compressed.
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Those settings are only for "chat" meaning other ppl with a Samsung phone on the same carrier as you if I'm not mistaken. Because mine is on original and it's the same outcome as I stated before.
I was able to attach the Live Message GIF to Textra once already in the app, then sending to my wife and daughter who also use Textra was fine. Once or twice it came back as failed, but after a retry, it sent. But I really hate that the native messaging app doesn't allow for adding random animated GIFs like it does in Textra.
While I have only used Live Messages on Twitter (actual tweets, not direct messages), and know it can be accessed from the stock Samsung keyboard (which I hate) and Air Command, I believe they can only be sent in apps that allow animated GIF files to be sent. Most likely, with Samsung's stock messaging app, they probably are being sent as MMS messages, unless there's that extended SMS technology (I forgot the actual name), but I'm not sure if that's true because I don't think the carrier I'm on supports that.
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calming said:
But I really hate that the native messaging app doesn't allow for adding random animated GIFs like it does in Textra.
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I think Gboard can do that through its blue suggestions, but can't really remember because I have that disabled, and I doubt the Samsung keyboard supports that. Even then, I don't like the stock Samsung touch keyboard, for similar reasons to why i have a "stock Android" theme applied on mine.

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