Hi.
I was running AOSP but I just wanted to go back to stock, so I followed a tutorial (http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/help/guide-how-to-revert-phone-cm-aosp-aokp-t2458530).
I'm currently on DoomKernel v18, Android 4.2.2 (10.3.1.A.2.67).
My bootloader is unlocked but I do not have backup of TA partition, is it still possible to re-lock bootloader?
Yes. Flash a stock kernel then use the BLU mode of Flashtool to relock the bootloader.
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Yes. Flash a stock kernel then use the BLU mode of Flashtool to relock the bootloader.
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Should I root first
No. You don't need root to use Flashtool.
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No. You don't need root to use Flashtool.
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Would the C6603_10.3.1.A.2.67_Generic ES.ftf work?
and if it does i can update OTA after re-locking bootloader?
Yes, as the kernel is the same in all .67 roms. Just exclude everything but the kernel and don't wipe anything when flashing.
Edit - You should be able to update OTA, providing you haven't modified your software in any other way (deleting system apps, for example).
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Yes, as the kernel is the same in all .67 roms. Just exclude everything but the kernel and don't wipe anything when flashing.
Edit - You should be able to update OTA, providing you haven't modified your software in any other way (deleting system apps, for example).
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You are a legend mate! Thanks for all your help! I'm not the greatest at this stuff so your help educates me a lot
You're welcome.
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Okay, I noticed my wifi hadnt connected so i went into settings to turn it on. I press the little switch it goes blue then back to grey almost immediately, and then it says Turning on Wi-Fi but wont turn on. Bluetooth works fine and so does mobile data/service. not sure what happened but its a big issue as i only use wifi.
You shouldn't have any problems. I did exactly what I told you to my own phone with no issues.
Did you flash fota kernel from the FTF?
If you did, try flashing the FTF without wiping data. That will wipe /system and reflash it and should solve any problems. Note that you will lose root and any other system modifications if you do that.
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You shouldn't have any problems. I did exactly what I told you to my own phone with no issues.
Did you flash fota kernel from the FTF?
If you did, try flashing the FTF without wiping data. That will wipe /system and reflash it and should solve any problems. Note that you will lose root and any other system modifications if you do that.
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No, It flashed
kernel.sin
rpm.sin
loader.sin
I'm not near my PC at the moment, so cannot check, but when you're choosing what to flash, there should be an option to exclude fota kernel. Don't select it.
If all else fails, just do what I suggested and that should fix your issue.
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I'm not near my PC at the moment, so cannot check, but when you're choosing what to flash, there should be an option to exclude fota kernel. Don't select it.
If all else fails, just do what I suggested and that should fix your issue.
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Should i exclude everything and just flash FOTA
Yes.
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Yes.
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same issue :/
didnt really understand what you meant with the without wiping data thing, sorry.
There are check boxes that you select to wipe data and appslog. Make sure they're not checked and flash the whole FTF. That should fix the problem.
I'm not sure what has happened, as I have done exactly what I told you before and my WiFi works fine. :/
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There are check boxes that you select to wipe data and appslog. Make sure they're not checked and flash the whole FTF. That should fix the problem.
I'm not sure what has happened, as I have done exactly what I told you before and my WiFi works fine. :/
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Now i can actually thank you. THanks so much My device is now on stock with everything working to perfection
Happy to help.
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Hi,
My first post here on XDA! I have a Generic NL .253 Rom (without root, BL locked) flashed on my Z. I want to downgrade it to version .434 so I can root my phone. The problem is, everytime I try to flash it with flashtool, whenever my phone boots up, I get a message saying it's upgrading NFC, then it suddenly reboots. This happens over and over (kind of like a bootloop). I have tried several .FTF files. Also, I don't want to do a clean flash, I have made several backups but I'm afraid they don't live up to my 'backup'-standards. Does anyone know a fix for this?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi,
My first post here on XDA! I have a Generic NL .253 Rom (without root, BL locked) flashed on my Z. I want to downgrade it to version .434 so I can root my phone. The problem is, everytime I try to flash it with flashtool, whenever my phone boots up, I get a message saying it's upgrading NFC, then it suddenly reboots. This happens over and over (kind of like a bootloop). I have tried several .FTF files. Also, I don't want to do a clean flash, I have made several backups but I'm afraid they don't live up to my 'backup'-standards. Does anyone know a fix for this?
Thanks in advance!
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So you cannot turn on your phone now?
Ben Ling said:
So you cannot turn on your phone now?
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Hey, thanks for you reply. Yes, I can. I reflashed my old .253 Generic NL software in between trying other .434 files and it still works fine.
The problem with the .434 is that my phone does boot, but it never properly boots, you know what I mean? It keeps on resetting, and displaying the 'NFC updating' message. Any ideas?
Jonathan
j0nthn said:
Hey, thanks for you reply. Yes, I can. I reflashed my old .253 Generic NL software in between trying other .434 files and it still works fine.
The problem with the .434 is that my phone does boot, but it never properly boots, you know what I mean? It keeps on resetting, and displaying the 'NFC updating' message. Any ideas?
Jonathan
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so you can start your phone with .253 firmware?
.434 can?
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so you can start your phone with .253 firmware?
.434 can?
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I can start up my phone with .253 firmware, but not really with .434 ('semi-bootloop due to 'NFC update')
j0nthn said:
Hey, thanks for you reply. Yes, I can. I reflashed my old .253 Generic NL software in between trying other .434 files and it still works fine.
The problem with the .434 is that my phone does boot, but it never properly boots, you know what I mean? It keeps on resetting, and displaying the 'NFC updating' message. Any ideas?
Jonathan
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I'm actually having the exact same issue. I would like to downgrade so I can regain root. I have a feeling to fix the boot loop we would have to wipe the phone. I'm just deciding if I want to try that yet as it sucks redoing everything and the phone is running so good.
Qmann05 said:
I'm actually having the exact same issue. I would like to downgrade so I can regain root. I have a feeling to fix the boot loop we would have to wipe the phone. I'm just deciding if I want to try that yet as it sucks redoing everything and the phone is running so good.
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Yeah exactly, the backup options are fairly limited since I haven't rooted it yet, and I kinda feel there should be a way around this loop
without having to wipe all my data..
i suggest wipe. it should work when downgrading.. i hope it will work on you both as i downgrade my z after updating to .253 and i dont have any bootloop issues...
Which backup do you think is the best? Pc companion/the pre installed 'backup and recovery' app/Carbon/adb full backup? Does any of these guarantee a full backup? I want to be sure before I try..
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Which backup do you think is the best? Pc companion/the pre installed 'backup and recovery' app/Carbon/adb full backup? Does any of these guarantee a full backup? I want to be sure before I try..
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I always trust Titanium Backup. Keep all my apps and important settings through several android phones over a few years already.
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I downgrade to 434 from 253 through Flashtool without wipe, reroot and flash NUT 253 without any problem.
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Yeah...the problem is, again, I haven't rooted yet. I know TB is the best, it's just not an option for me right now
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Yeah...the problem is, again, I haven't rooted yet. I know TB is the best, it's just not an option for me right now
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.434 can be rooted either bin4ry or doomlords method.. and .253 can achieve root using nuts method or wawyed..
So it's possible to root .253 without having rooted before? Did not know that, I will look into that, thanks! This must be new since like today or yesterday, haha
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So it's possible to root .253 without having rooted before? Did not know that, I will look into that, thanks! This must be new since like today or yesterday, haha
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Coming from .434.. .253 is pre-rooted in there methods.. So try it and follow instructions well..
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Coming from .434.. .253 is pre-rooted in there methods.. So try it and follow instructions well..
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Yes exactly. But the problem is that I can't get back to .434, I already knew this
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Which backup do you think is the best? Pc companion/the pre installed 'backup and recovery' app/Carbon/adb full backup? Does any of these guarantee a full backup? I want to be sure before I try..
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Pre installed backup and recovery works great if you're not rooted. Just make sure to check all boxes to backup. Store backup on computer, wipe, flash, root 253 then restore.
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I had exactly the same problem and the only solution was downgrade to .434 with a full wipe!
Everything else I tried ended in restart because of the NFC update.
I could restore my system, because I rooted .434 after the clean install,
updated to .253 from [nut] and restored only the data partition from my last nandroid with recovery.
Then everything was as before and works fine.
But trust me, the only solution is downgrading with a full wipe! :good:
Did you try flash kernel/ otakernel from the .434 with flashtool if not try then
I will skip that update (cannot even get it from Sony PC Companion) so wait for 4.2
I dont use NFC and don't need whitebalance calibration.
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Pre installed backup and recovery works great if you're not rooted. Just make sure to check all boxes to backup. Store backup on computer, wipe, flash, root 253 then restore.
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Thank you for this, will try it now. Will keep you updated (if you're interested). Also thanks, Desire and donottouch!
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Thank you for this, will try it now. Will keep you updated (if you're interested). Also thanks, Desire and donottouch!
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Told yah.. Wiping will do the trick..
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Hi all, i'd like to update to 4.2.2 .427 but if i try to update Sony Pc Companion says error 2003 so i tryed to lock bootloader but if i power on the phone it just dont do nothing, just a little vibration.
Try sus.
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Hi all, i'd like to update to 4.2.2 .427 but if i try to update Sony Pc Companion says error 2003 so i tryed to lock bootloader but if i power on the phone it just dont do nothing, just a little vibration.
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As @gm007 said, it is advisable that you do a repair using SUS before doing anything else.
After that, if you're still on an older firmware (going by your signature) download any full .253 ftf (Find it here) and flash it in flash tool.
Ensure that you wipe everything when flashing.
Once you've updated to .253, root it & install 2.4 release dual recovery.
Then follow the instructions from here to update to .423.
If the instructions are unclear, just ask, I'll elaborate on whatever you didn't understand.
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As @gm007 said, it is advisable that you do a repair using SUS before doing anything else.
After that, if you're still on an older firmware (going by your signature) download any full .253 ftf (Find it here) and flash it in flash tool.
Ensure that you wipe everything when flashing.
Once you've updated to .253, root it & install 2.4 release dual recovery.
Then follow the instructions from here to update to .423.
If the instructions are unclear, just ask, I'll elaborate on whatever you didn't understand.
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I think the problem is not the rom cause now i am on 4.2.2 leaked but this happened on others updates official
@kgs1992
Not to argue with you, as you seem like a helpful person, but why advise to update to 253 first, when they could just jump straight to 423 and root it with Doomlord's tool if they require root?
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Not to argue with you, as you seem like a helpful person, but why advise to update to 253 first, when they could just jump straight to 423 and root it with Doomlord's tool if they require root?
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I'm not sure if there is a full ftf for update to .423, that's all.
And @[NUT] had advised an update from .253 or .307, but it seems the guide now says that you can also update from .350 or .434
I'm limited by my own knowledge, sorry.
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I'm not sure if there is a full ftf for update to .423, that's all.
And @[NUT] had advised an update from .253 or .307, but it seems the guide now says that you can also update from .350 or .434
I'm limited by my own knowledge, sorry.
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Nobody needs to be sorry for helping others
There are quite a few 423 ftf available in the general section.
I used this version - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336874
There are a few more for different regions/customisations posted in that section
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I'm not sure if there is a full ftf for update to .423, that's all.
And @[NUT] had advised an update from .253 or .307, but it seems the guide now says that you can also update from .350 or .434
I'm limited by my own knowledge, sorry.
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OP is on neither of those firmware versions, but yes, using a full FTF for .423 there shouldn't be any problems coming from .407. The only potential problem could be if the ROM you're coming from contains a different NFC firmware and the destination ROM doesn't flash a compatible version. But since .423 does do this there shouldn't be any problems in this case
So i should install .423 via flashtool?
EmeraldTimer said:
So i should install .423 via flashtool?
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Yes. Then root and restore TA partition if you have that backed up.
Rekoil said:
Yes. Then root and restore TA partition if you have that backed up.
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There is a way to keep all data and applications? is a boring thing to restore all
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There is a way to keep all data and applications? is a boring thing to restore all
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I'm not sure how the FlashTool process works. Does it wipe the data partition? If so there might be an option to not wipe it, I don't know. But if your device is rooted you can just back everything up with Titanium Backup (make sure to backup to external SD card) and restore the data for those crucial apps afterwards.
Flashtool tutorial -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240614
Part 6 shows you how to keep data.
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I'm not sure how the FlashTool process works. Does it wipe the data partition? If so there might be an option to not wipe it, I don't know. But if your device is rooted you can just back everything up with Titanium Backup (make sure to backup to external SD card) and restore the data for those crucial apps afterwards.
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Flashtool tutorial -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240614
Part 6 shows you how to keep data.
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Thank you, i am downloading :good:
Please see pic below...
Do I need to unlock the bootloader before I can flash this fix for the barclays banking app?.
I'm already rooted
Thanks
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Pic, sorry forgot to add to first post! :-/
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As far as I know there is no way to install a recovery without unlocking the Bootloader and you will need CWM or TWRP to install this fix.
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As far as I know there is no way to install a recovery without unlocking the Bootloader and you will need CWM or TWRP to install this fix.
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I have twrp installed would it hurt if I tried installing the zip?
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How did you install TWRP if your phone is not unlocked?
If you have a working recovery it would not hurt to install the fix, as it seems to be the only installation method
Of course I can not garuantee for anything.
Because you do not need to unlock to install recovery....
Just flash the zip in either cmw or twrp recovery
Or just extract the build.prop from the zip and push it manually.
But to be honest, why does barclays need a build.prop tweak to work. I wouldn't trust my bank in this case
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Because you do not need to unlock to install recovery....
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I know is slightly OT, but how would I do that? I thought you would have to flash some custom kernel to get a working recovery. The dual recovery for locked BL is still work in progress isn't it?
Thanks in advance!
It works fine for 40 seconds then reboots. That's more than enough to flash a small zip like that. It just is not write long enough for a backup or restore.
Also you do not flash a partition for recovery as Sony devices do not have a recovery partition. Recovery on Sony devices hijacks the chargemon file to boot up into it.
I am not 100% sure about all the technicalities so don't shoot me if I am wrong on that, but the recovery for locked bootloaders will work for small flashes.
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Because you do not need to unlock to install recovery....
Just flash the zip in either cmw or twrp recovery
Or just extract the build.prop from the zip and push it manually.
But to be honest, why does barclays need a build.prop tweak to work. I wouldn't trust my bank in this case
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Sadly the barclays banking app doesn't work on a rooted phone, and this is a fix for it to work.
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Are you sure? What part of rooting affects the build.prop? None that I am aware of.
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Are you sure? What part of rooting affects the build.prop? None that I am aware of.
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Definitely, when I try to log into the app I get a in app message saying the barclays banking app is not supported on rooted devices. And then it just quits
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I've got my Z1 rooted, but how do I install a custom recovery to it!?... I thought I had already, but haven't
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Only way with a locked Bootloader is described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455959
But it is still in development and I would not advise it if you're not 100% sure what you're doing.
You could also unlock your phone and flash the Advanced Stock, Doom or any other kernel containing a recovery, but you will loose your Sony DRM Keys (Camera, X-Reality,...). They can be backed up (Backup TA partition) and restored, but the procedure is not that easy either.
Is this banking app really that important?
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Only way with a locked Bootloader is described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455959
But it is still in development and I would not advise it if you're not 100% sure what you're doing.
You could also unlock your phone and flash the Advanced Stock, Doom or any other kernel containing a recovery, but you will loose your Sony DRM Keys (Camera, X-Reality,...). They can be backed up (Backup TA partition) and restored, but the procedure is not that easy either.
Is this banking app really that important?
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It's convenient for me to have it, but suppose I could always use the mobile Web version
I shall wait until there's a fix for the unlock bootloader, not worth losing your camera for
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Definitely, when I try to log into the app I get a in app message saying the barclays banking app is not supported on rooted devices. And then it just quits
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I understand that bit, but rooting does not affect the build.prop, so why would modding it let the app think your phone is not rooted? Please can you send me a link to the thread you posted a picture of so I can look inside the zip and see what it is trying to do
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bumping this thread as it's related to my post since that's my Cwm zip in op, barclays checks the build prop for the debug keys and if it's successful says Device is rooted, barclays latest versions have much more advanced detection methods
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Hi, wanna downgrade my Xperia Z from 4.3 to 4.2 to gain root again.
Will I lose all of the data of my phone if I do?
tase25 said:
Hi, wanna downgrade my Xperia Z from 4.3 to 4.2 to gain root again.
Will I lose all of the data of my phone if I do?
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No just flash a ftf of 4.2 with flashtool but uncheck the box next to wipe data
Flashing without wiping data usually leads to a bootloop if downgrading.
So, you will probably have to wipe your data. Backup what you can without root before trying it.
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Flashing without wiping data usually leads to a bootloop if downgrading.
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I downgraded mine without wiping it worked fine
Rzr92 said:
I downgraded mine without wiping it worked fine
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See where I said "usually"? That means most of the time, but not always. You are not everyone. Bootloops can and do happen when downgrading without wiping.
See here for one example - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50347641
You should not give advice without knowing it's 100% correct.
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See where I said "usually"? That means most of the time, but not always. You are not everyone. Bootloops can and do happen when downgrading without wiping.
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Ok my mistake,sorry bro
Hi there, I'm new here. I'd like to ask anyone who know about blootloader. I have one issue with my phone. A few days ago, (more accurate - 1-2 weeks) I did rooting for my phone Xperia Z. Before that, I checked the configuration, and then I was allowed to unlock it. But now, (after rooting) i'm not able to do that anymore. How to understand that?
Before rooting was writting : „Allowed to unlock bootloader: Yes“
After : „No“.
What the hell happend ?
Does software update will solve this issue with my phone ?
What I shloud to do ?
I'm going to attach photo after rooting. I had contacted Sony HELP, but they said that I should search help anywhere else, 'cause they don't know anything about it or they can't say.
Maybe they can't answer 'cause I'm living in another country in which there's no Sony phone centre, only the main.
Any suggestions?
Did you root using this method - http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/development/root-xperia-z-zl-tablet-z-lb-ub-t2186368?
If so, you will see this written in the first post -
if u had an unlockable bootloader device, after using this method the device will be detected as LOCKED or unlock not possible!!! (to fix this use this fix)
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Also, Sony support will not help with problems caused by you unofficially modifying the software on your phone, no matter where you live.
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Think so
kingvortex said:
Did you root using this method - http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/development/root-xperia-z-zl-tablet-z-lb-ub-t2186368?
If so, you will see this written in the first post -
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I did with this method: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsh51O1ImMM
I used fast rooting or whatever is it
How I need to flash it ? I'm newbie at Android. :/
Do I need just replace that file with Root Explorer to it's file original destination? Thanks for reply.
EDIT: By the way, do I need upload META-IN folder too? :?
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The method in that video is indeed the method that I linked to. You need to flash the file in recovery.
Try XZDualRecovery If you need a recovery. It should work, but I cannot be 100% on that as it seems you're on quite an old 4.1 firmware version.
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kingvortex said:
The method in that video is indeed the method that I linked to. You need to flash the file in recovery.
Try XZDualRecovery If you need a recovery. It should work, but I cannot be 100% on that as it seems you're on quite an old 4.1 firmware version.
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I have that recovery already. It's needed to have SD card? Can I flash it though the phone memory ? Yes, I've 4.1.2 version. Awaiting for KitKat. Is there's any possibility to brick the phone? 'Cause I'm scared to try that then if so.
Yes, just put it on your internal SD. You will not brick your phone by flashing that file.
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kingvortex said:
Yes, just put it on your internal SD. You will not brick your phone by flashing that file.
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Will it erase my all data in MicroSD card?
No.
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No.
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I don't find the DualRecovery file. I have XZRecovery already, but Its freezes as I push Install..
LaurynasVP said:
I don't find the DualRecovery file. I have XZRecovery already, but Its freezes as I push Install..
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So, to be clear...
You downloaded the file from this post, rebooted into recovery, selected it and tried to flash it? If so, I have no idea why it would freeze up.
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So, to be clear...
You downloaded the file from this post, rebooted into recovery, selected it and tried to flash it? If so, I have no idea why it would freeze up.
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No. I trying to enter „Install“ menu in Recovery mode. I can't go into „Install“ section where I need to flash that .zip
EDIT : WORKED AS WELL.!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ADDED THANK ON EVERY YOUR POST!!!!! MODS CAN LOCK THIS THREAD!!!!