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Moto X or N5

Would you switch when N5 comes out?

winn75 said:
Would you switch when N5 comes out?
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You can ask this question about any new device that comes out. Would you upgrade from your current phone to a newer phone? And my answer is that if your current phone does everything you need it to, then there's no point in upgrading.
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If there was no point. Then no one ever would. Most phones now a days do everything one needs it's about want when upgrading
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winn75 said:
Would you switch when N5 comes out?
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N5 pros over MotoX
- colourful LED notifications
- strong dev community
- processor
Moto X pros over N5
- everything else
So unless those few things bother you, just stick with the Moto X

If the Nexus 5 releases with a larger battery option I will be all over it.
If it has the same size battery as the moto x I will not be picking it up.
This phone has me absolutely addicted to all day battery life.
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N5 probably won't be on Verizon at the $400 price point. But I would be all over it on a gsm carrier.
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I'm getting the N5 the moment it's out. That doesn't mean I'm switching though. The Moto X will likely remain my primary phone. I just like wasting my money on things I don't need.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I'm getting the N5 the moment it's out. That doesn't mean I'm switching though. The Moto X will likely remain my primary phone. I just like wasting my money on things I don't need.
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And I thought I was the only one that did that. LoL
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I was stuck between these two but this no long delay and the amazing reviews of the moto x by everyone has made me lean heavily this direction now to decide between the tmibile version or the developer lol
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DonDizzurp said:
Moto X pros over N5
- everything else
So unless those few things bother you, just stick with the Moto X
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Lol what? And the fact that by the time the Nexus 5 comes out the Moto X will be two android releases behind? Also the speculated always listening on the Nexus 5 as well the X doesn't have much over it.
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Why do you assume that's how it will be. I am willing to bet on it the X will receive 4.4 and skip 4.3

joshnichols189 said:
Lol what? And the fact that by the time the Nexus 5 comes out the Moto X will be two android releases behind? Also the speculated always listening on the Nexus 5 as well the X doesn't have much over it.
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Am I the only person here who couldn't care less about what version of android the X gets updated to? The phone is perfect as is. I bought it for the features it was advertised to have, and Motorola delivered in spades. From this point on, if it never receives another update, I will still be just as happy with it.

Switching seems a bit crazy, but if I didn't already own the Moto X and wasn't majorly dissapointed with my Nexus 7, then yeah, I'd probably go for the Nexus 5, since I think it looks nice and its cheaper. Either way, I already own the Moto X and I'm very happy with it.

DonDizzurp said:
N5 pros over MotoX
- colourful LED notifications
- strong dev community
- processor
Moto X pros over N5
- everything else
So unless those few things bother you, just stick with the Moto X
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1) Moto X got rid of the LED notifications because they're using active notifications which are more helpful.
2) Yes that may be true
3) Processors aren't everything but fine.

_MetalHead_ said:
Am I the only person here who couldn't care less about what version of android the X gets updated to? The phone is perfect as is. I bought it for the features it was advertised to have, and Motorola delivered in spades. From this point on, if it never receives another update, I will still be just as happy with it.
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I agree. 4.3 was an incremental update and 4.4 barely more than that. On this device I doubt either update will really make much of a difference... Not that I don't want them, it just doesn't seem important when the phone runs spectacularly as it is. That's the same reason I don't care about the lack of development.
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Droyyd said:
1) Moto X got rid of the LED notifications because they're using active notifications which are more helpful.
2) Yes that may be true
3) Processors aren't everything but fine.
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Yes, processors aren't everything but the N5 with out a doubt has a better CPU and GPU and will have a better dev community which will lead to a better working phone. Active notifications are awesome but only if you're near your phone. If your phone is charging on a desk a couple of meters away from you and you hear it vibrate how will active notification tell you what happened?

theraffman said:
I agree. 4.3 was an incremental update and 4.4 barely more than that. On this device I doubt either update will really make much of a difference... Not that I don't want them, it just doesn't seem important when the phone runs spectacularly as it is. That's the same reason I don't care about the lack of development.
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Yep, no development doesn't bother me either. I have root and xposed framework. Don't need anything else. If ever a phone came with perfect software out of the box, it's the Moto X.

DonDizzurp said:
Yes, processors aren't everything but the N5 with out a doubt has a better CPU and GPU and will have a better dev community which will lead to a better working phone. Active notifications are awesome but only if you're near your phone. If your phone is charging on a desk a couple of meters away from you and you hear it vibrate how will active notification tell you what happened?
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It still flashes on screen every few seconds if you have a new text, email, missed call, etc. The only time this feature auto shuts off to my knowledge is at night (configurable) and when the phone is in your pocket or face down.
Besides all that, I'm sure the N5 will be a great phone with great support, however the chances of it coming to Verizon are slim to none so its not even an option for a lot of us.

Jexx11 said:
It still flashes on screen every few seconds if you have a new text, email, missed call, etc. The only time this feature auto shuts off to my knowledge is at night (configurable) and when the phone is in your pocket or face down.
Besides all that, I'm sure the N5 will be a great phone with great support, however the chances of it coming to Verizon are slim to none so its not even an option for a lot of us.
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You wont be able to tell what it is. With an RGB LED you can set different colours to represent different types of notifications.
Anyway, I keep hearing everyone say Verizon has terrible phone options. What's so special about Verizon that you guys stay (I'm from Canada)?

Verizon has the best signal, but has a soviet union business model and is expensive. However it works everywhere. Only reason I stay is cause I use my phone for business. My bonus is sticking 20+ gigs to them every month

debating between HTC One, S4, or Moto x on sprint

I really like the Moto X but it doesnt seem to have much support from xda. What do you guys think?

Doesn't really need support. The out of box experience is virtually flawless.
Moto X on Verizon

Would love to hear from people on this. I am on Verizon and in the same boat. Anyone had the S4 and switch to the moto x?

I moved from the htc one to the Moto X and I have no regrets whatsoever. Better battery, better in the hand, no bloatware. It's like a Nexus you can buy on subsidy.

What you get from HTC One and GS4:
Better hardware, often lag and stuttering, more dev support, 1080p displays, slow updates, better camera, worse battery life
What you get from Moto X:
Worse hardware, no lag ever (games and applications load noticeably faster than the one and the S4), less deuv support, 720p display that has great color, updates faster than most nexus devices (got 4.4 on moto x faster than on Nexus 10, 7, 4, htc one gpe, and gs4 gpe), worse camera (but starts up faster and is still reasonable quality), easily 20+ hour battery life, active notifications, touchless control, virtually stock android, and much more...
Up to you

Kittiesoncrack said:
I really like the Moto X but it doesnt seem to have much support from xda. What do you guys think?
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I think that should be a VERY short debate.

gsk3rd said:
Would love to hear from people on this. I am on Verizon and in the same boat. Anyone had the S4 and switch to the moto x?
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My comments on the issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538323

Active notifications. Enough said. I can't go to any other phone because of this feature alone, and I've had the s4 and HTC one. If you enjoy aosp then this is even better
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mwedemeier11 said:
Active notifications. Enough said. I can't go to any other phone because of this feature alone, and I've had the s4 and HTC one. If you enjoy aosp then this is even better
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Because s4 had amoled, you could use Dynamic Notifications, which was the same thing. It actually had even more customizability than Active Notifications.

eyc said:
Because s4 had amoled, you could use Dynamic Notifications, which was the same thing. It actually had even more customizability than Active Notifications.
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I actually didn't care for dynamic notifications, yes it had more features but I didn't work as flawless. 99 times out of a hundred when I grab my phone and look at it the time would show and I could unlock my screen. I have hit my power button to turn on my screen maybe 10 times since I bought it.
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I actually didn't care for dynamic notifications, yes it had more features but I didn't work as flawless. 99 times out of a hundred when I grab my phone and look at it the time would show and I could unlock my screen. I have hit my power button to turn on my screen maybe 10 times since I bought it.
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True. It was not flawless. And I love that the Moto just turns on even with the slightest nudge. For the s4, that option sucked.

eyc said:
True. It was not flawless. And I love that the Moto just turns on even with the slightest nudge. For the s4, that option sucked.
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Exactly, that's probably why I'll stick with moto phones for another generation or two.
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What do you need xda support for? To remove a bunch of crap or an aosp ROM with the latest android version?
You are in good hands... Moto X doesn't need that. You thinking about that Samsung Galaxy S4 at this point? Please don't buy that plastic crapped with ugly touchwiz. At least the HTC one is a beautiful piece of a phone.
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Here's the way I look at it. The Moto X can do things no other phone can do. With root and xposed I can do what most roms can do. Easy decision.
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Yep, the lack of development us because all you need is root. There's no need for custom ROMs. All you need is stock, or root + xposed framework.
Sent from my Moto X, please forgive any misswypes and forgotten words.

I have owned all 3 devices on Verizon. I started with the S4, and returned it for what the salesman said was a silly reason. The reason being the back button was on the wrong side of the screen for my preference, and I couldn't reach across the screen with my thumb and hit the back button easily.
I traded it back in within the 14 day trial on the HTC One. I really like the HTC one and the speakers. I also like the ability to turn it into a TV remote control. It has eye appeal, people think it looks cool and ask what kind of phone it is. I didn't like the power and volume buttons that are flush. I found that I had to look and make sure I was pushing in the right spot.
I really wanted to try the Moto X though, with the notifications and voice monitoring. It was a bonus that I was able to get kit kat on the second day I had it, and even cooler that it was rooted the day after that on kit kat. I usually trade phones once a month with people on craigslist just so I can try out something different, but I really like this phone.

You'll probably get biased opinions since you're posting in the Moto X forum, but here's my $.02.
I've been doing the xda/android/rom thing since the original droid. This is the first phone that has felt fine out of the box and I haven't even bothered to check to see if root and/or unlocked bootloaders have been achieved. My last phone was the GS3.
After looking around at everything I realized that all phones are basically the same. You interact with all of them the same way and they provide information in the same way. The only differences are size and quality issues (camera, screen, battery, etc...). The only unique phones are the Note 3 (with its active digitizer/stylus) and the Moto X. I was really leaning toward the note 3 since I jot down a lot of notes at work. Then I got my wife a Moto X. Two days later I had to have one. The real kicker for me was how it changes how I use my phone. Active notifications are nice and really handy, but I'm probably one of the few who uses touchless control a lot. The hands-free texting works great (especially while in the car). I use Google Now reminders several times a day. If I'm commuting and I remember something that needs be done, it's great to just say it and have my phone remind me. I find that I'm using Google now a lot. For example - If I'm cooking and need to make a conversion, I just ask the Moto. Or in the morning I ask it what the forecast is and what is my agenda while I'm shaving. It's surprising how much that step of unlocking/touching my phone used to prevent me from using it.
Now the downsides. The back of the phone looks great, but I think the front looks a little cheap. Battery life has been pretty good, but not as stellar as what others are reporting. It still is plenty to last all day. I will miss my GS3's removable storage and memory. I don't take a lot of pictures, but I hear that the Moto X's camera is so-so compared to the others.

I'm not going to go in-depth. I had the HTC One, wife has the S4, and I now have the Moto X. I personally like the Moto X more than both the former phones. Due to many reasons. S4 is too big for my taste. I always thought I wanted a big screen, but after using it I don't like it. The HTC was just too oddly shaped for my taste, and the whole Sense thing ruined it for me, as does T-wiz. After flashing an AOSP ROM on both of those phones, they were just knockoffs of the GE phones. Meh. I love my Moto X. Traded my HTC straight across for it and don't feel bad at all.
I was also worried about switching from 1080p to 720p and see no difference. I may be biased because I have one, but until I actually got it, I thought it was such a stupid phone due to the HTC and the S4 hype, and me thinking, "Nothing is as good as these two phones!". Boy was I wrong.
Oh yeah! Touchless Controls and Active Display are the ****!
Oh yeah x2! I was a serious flashaholic with my other phones and saw how slow the Moto X development seemed to be. That also had me shying away from it, but damn! I don't feel like I need to do ANYTHING. Only thing I did was root simply for Xposed so I can use GravityBox to change some colors.
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gsk3rd said:
Would love to hear from people on this. I am on Verizon and in the same boat. Anyone had the S4 and switch to the moto x?
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I did on Sprint. I can't go back to the S4 or any samsung product until they clean up touchwiz. Plus all those features are not necessary. The main selling point of Samsung is the camera, but I feel the X is passable. At this point its Motorola or Nexus devices from here on out.
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I just sold my S4 and bought a Moto X, super happy. I love this phone. It does everything well and the size and feel is amazing. The only downer is I don't want to put a case on it and ruin its ergonomics, however I want to keep it safe.
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[Q] 4.4.1

Is there a chance that the Moto x will receive the 4.4.1 update? Might it fix the poor battery life issue?

Jackarino said:
Is there a chance that the Moto x will receive the 4.4.1 update? Might it fix the poor battery life issue?
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after going through the long change log, i saw alot of fixes. my guess is we will see some speed and battery improvement.

I would think Moto may hold off on releasing 4.4 to the other providers now and instead move to 4.4.1 directly.

Just use 4.2.2. What is the big deal with 4.4....especially if the battery Sucks. Right now I'm at 20 percent left with 1 day 3 hours on battery and over 5 hours screen time. What on earth can 4.4 offer me to give that up?
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kj2112 said:
What on earth can 4.4 offer me to give that up?
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The insidious need to have the latest

anirudh412 said:
The insidious need to have the latest
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I get that... But one of the main factors in my deciding on the Moto X was the great battery life I read about. And lucky me it came to be true! And no way I am giving that up to have a newer Android version that really brings nothing to the table I care about. Lol
But yes... I get the need for the latest and greatest. Btw... My N7 is still happily on 4.2.2 as well.
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Battery is fine on 4.4. I would love to get that update. I hope the x wasn't a one trick pony in regards to update. It was on 4.2.2 for awhile. Maybe they were already working on 4.4 for long but there's a lot of good bug fixes in that .1 update.
My X before exchanging got 7+ hours sot on WiFi and over 6 regularly on mobile with T-Mobile on 4.4. I don't have anything to compare because I never used the x on jb.
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Jayrod1980 said:
Battery is fine on 4.4. I would love to get that update. I hope the x wasn't a one trick pony in regards to update. It was on 4.2.2 for awhile. Maybe they were already working on 4.4 for long but there's a lot of good bug fixes in that .1 update.
My X before exchanging got 7+ hours sot on WiFi and over 6 regularly on mobile with T-Mobile on 4.4. I don't have anything to compare because I never used the x on jb.
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I have never used my X on JB as well. I regularly get 10+ hrs from my Moto X. This is regular usage such as phone calls, text messages, and checking other apps. As I am still on unlimited data, I very rarely connect to Wifi. I have found that if I put the display on Auto, the battery lasts a great deal longer. The AMOLED display is great and active notifications are great as well. When I first got the phone, the battery would last 7-8 hrs but adjusting the display helped extend that.

On 4.2.2...
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Friggin site. Lol still can't post a screen shot. On app or an site . They just come out corrupted.
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Hmmm... No wonder. When I look at my screen shot pic details it's zero for height and width. That's strange.
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Delete... Still not working.
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kj2112 said:
Just use 4.2.2. What is the big deal with 4.4....especially if the battery Sucks.
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My Moto X went nearly 3 days last week when I wasn't using it much, and the rest of the time when I am using it heavily, I get great battery life on 4.4.

Guess the pics work now. Lol sorry for all the repeats.
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I haven't had any real issues with battery life, or anything to complain about with it. Also, I don't know why people say that 4.4 doesn't bring anything good. Maybe there is nothing front and center that you get, but the base system has a lot of updates and changes since 4.2 to improve things.

Will Moto Suite be compatible with N6?

Would be nice to get some Moto apps like moto voice, display and assist on the phone.

biggiestuff said:
Would be nice to get some Moto apps like moto voice, display and assist on the phone.
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Good question. I am speculating no. A lot of the original Moto experience is now inside Lollipop, so you get OK Google Now and all of that. I don't think the 6 has the extra IR sensors.

Note10.1Dude said:
Good question. I am speculating no. A lot of the original Moto experience is now inside Lollipop, so you get OK Google Now and all of that. I don't think the 6 has the extra IR sensors.
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I did read in the L change log that it will support ok Google while the screen is turned off. Was hoping for the reading texts aloud and respond while driving. AGENT app will help with that if it's not available on the n6. Active display I guess could be replaced with dynamic since it's an amoled screen.
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biggiestuff said:
I did read in the L change log that it will support ok Google while the screen is turned off. Was hoping for the reading texts aloud and respond while driving. AGENT app will help with that if it's not available on the n6. Active display I guess could be replaced with dynamic since it's an amoled screen.
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How does Dynamic handle security passcode on the phone? Since DN's security feature isn't built-in, it acts really weird and could easily be bypassed. I would think Moto Display would be tighter.

garyHal said:
How does Dynamic handle security passcode on the phone? Since DN's security feature isn't built-in, it acts really weird and could easily be bypassed. I would think Moto Display would be tighter.
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Moto display world be tighter for sure but if it's not compatible then dynamic would be the alternative. I'm hoping moto suite somehow is compatible but I'm not optimistic about it
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I think it is AMOLED.

Not sure if it will have moto voice, but it will have "Ok Google" with the screen off.

This is the one question I'm really hoping the answer is yes. I really like the Moto Suite on the Moto X 2014, but the storage and battery size on the N6 are a big selling point to me. I don't want to have to choose, so I'm hoping the two devices are similar enough that someone figures out a way to hack the Moto Apps onto it.
(I know some of the functionality of the Moto Apps is already baked into Lolipop, but it's sounding like Moto's implementation is more fully featured.)

We've never had any OEM software on previous devices so I don't see why this would change
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rootSU said:
We've never had any OEM software on previous devices so I don't see why this would change
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I guess the closest thing we got were the Google play edition phones that had stock android but a few tweaks to work with the infrared blasters and HTC camera.
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I guess the closest thing we got were the Google play edition phones that had stock android but a few tweaks to work with the infrared blasters and HTC camera.
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That's the reverse though. That was Google releasing their stuff to OEM. Not OEM releasing their stuff to Google.
GPE had OEM frameworks.
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Att moto x 2014 xt1097 just get a small update 23.16.9.en.US, is Marshmallow coming?

I just got this today, Marshmallow after this patch?

No, it should be 6.2 not 5

According to the motorola blog about marshmallow, the at&t model will NOT get marshmallow.
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I hate att hard

Dang, this phone is less than a year old. I ll be sticking to it for at least another year due to superior call quality.

Motorola also said that critical patches will still come to the carriers' versions but not marshmallow.
Verizon and at&t owners won't get updates.
Me instead of you don't take the update since a possible root exploit could come sometimes and taking the new update isn't that smart.

OrenGazala said:
Motorola also said that critical patches will still come to the carriers' versions but not marshmallow.
Verizon and at&t owners won't get updates.
Me instead of you don't take the update since a possible root exploit could come sometimes and taking the new update isn't that smart.
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I used to root, install CM on my phones but recently I don't feel it worth the time to do it anymore ( haven't done any root for the past 2 years). Truely love the Moto X call quality but without update...my next phone probably a Moto nexus or iPhone.

wangminh12 said:
I used to root, install CM on my phones but recently I don't feel it worth the time to do it anymore ( haven't done any root for the past 2 years). Truely love the Moto X call quality but without update...my next phone probably a Moto nexus or iPhone.
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Possible idea, ul bootloader, install twrp. And flash the stock 6.0 rom, I took the 5.1 soak test dl and couldn't update ota, but the stock roms work great!

I hope an exploit is found soon - I'm sick of getting the software update message constantly.

wangminh12 said:
I used to root, install CM on my phones but recently I don't feel it worth the time to do it anymore ( haven't done any root for the past 2 years). Truely love the Moto X call quality but without update...my next phone probably a Moto nexus or iPhone.
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You can't go wrong with an iphone. That's my daily phone I rock an iPhone 6s. I'm using the moto x 2014 as a backup device. Just to surf the web and do other stuff while my iPhone charges. I feel as the moto x lags when I'm using it over my iPhone and I have animations turned off, force rendering and nova launcher with faster than light set. Tbh I'm an iPhone guy though.

KP0719 said:
You can't go wrong with an iphone. That's my daily phone I rock an iPhone 6s. I'm using the moto x 2014 as a backup device. Just to surf the web and do other stuff while my iPhone charges. I feel as the moto x lags when I'm using it over my iPhone and I have animations turned off, force rendering and nova launcher with faster than light set. Tbh I'm an iPhone guy though.
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Well that was helpful..

KP0719 said:
You can't go wrong with an iphone. That's my daily phone I rock an iPhone 6s. I'm using the moto x 2014 as a backup device. Just to surf the web and do other stuff while my iPhone charges. I feel as the moto x lags when I'm using it over my iPhone and I have animations turned off, force rendering and nova launcher with faster than light set. Tbh I'm an iPhone guy though.
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How is the call quality on 6s? I used a 5s before but it's not as good Moto X 2014 ( I'm not a native speaker so i can tell the difference )

wangminh12 said:
How is the call quality on 6s? I used a 5s before but it's not as good Moto X 2014 ( I'm not a native speaker so i can tell the difference )
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It has really good call quality and we're going to get volte soon so the call quality is going to be better as well. But this is a moto x thread so I'm not going to talk about the iPhone anymore. Anyone know any update on root for this device yet?