[Q] kitkat worth upgrading - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

First of all i dont care much about 4.4, i prefer overall performance. So my question is, is it worth upgading considering its improvement and bugs?

There are some nice touches, but the phone is just as fast as before.
IMO for a release it seems rather unstable. Tried it and well, I'd wait for the next release.

I wait... As it seems like Sony have not tested things properly
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No, it's not worth.

Am not updating.
need root to sort the sd card issue and i cba with the hassle of flashing ftf, downgrading then upgrading all for an update which adds nothing in terms of features and appears to have plenty more bugs
does the z1 still have its SMS app on KitKat 4.4 or have they switched to Google Hangouts?
if so then thats another reason why i wont be updating.
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Tonian1878 said:
does the z1 still have its SMS app on KitKat 4.4 or have they switched to Google Hangouts?
if so then thats another reason why i wont be updating.
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Nope they still use the sms app
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Not bothered about 4.3?

Is it just me or is anyone else not bothered about upgrading to 4.3 yet? The forum is littered with 4.3 questions/issues:
How do I get 4.3
Why have I not got 4.3 OTA yet
How to I get 4.3 OTA
How to I go back to stock to get 4.3
How do I flash 4.3 image
X app is now crashing on 4.3
I have no in call audio in 4.3
How do I get X on 4.3
Which kernel is best for 4.3
... the list goes on.
There's thread duplication everywhere. It's nice to see a new release but the updates seem quite minor to me, the only update I like is the better battery life. I'm quite happy to stay on 4.2.2 until a stable customisable 4.3 ROM and kernel is available.
Am I the only one in this boat?
I think the main plus of 4.3 has to be the addition of TRIM into android.
This will dramatically increase the longevity of devices.
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Trust me, OP, you're not alone. I'm patiently waiting for PA to finish incorporating their 4.3 rom, I can wait for a few days.
i'm waiting for a completely unmodified JSS15J aosp rom
kien said:
Is it just me or is anyone else not bothered about upgrading to 4.3 yet? The forum is littered with 4.3 questions/issues:
How do I get 4.3
Why have I not got 4.3 OTA yet
How to I get 4.3 OTA
How to I go back to stock to get 4.3
How do I flash 4.3 image
X app is now crashing on 4.3
I have no in call audio in 4.3
How do I get X on 4.3
Which kernel is best for 4.3
... the list goes on.
There's thread duplication everywhere. It's nice to see a new release but the updates seem quite minor to me, the only update I like is the better battery life. I'm quite happy to stay on 4.2.2 until a stable customisable 4.3 ROM and kernel is available.
Am I the only one in this boat?
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What's the point of this post? To brag about not upgrading? I don't understand, who cares if you are on 4.2 or 4.3 or whatever?
lVlaciiiii said:
Trust me, OP, you're not alone. I'm patiently waiting for PA to finish incorporating their 4.3 rom, I can wait for a few days.
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Same here :good:
This thread is the definition of ironic.
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The persistent notification thing is really annoying me, otherwise I'm enjoying it
One of those things, people don't seem to understand that:
- They ought to just be patient and wait for the OTA if they are running stock. It will come.
- With every new release Android there is period of merging, bug fixing, and, of course waiting. Devs overcome the last issue by releasing half-completed ROMs and gradually add more features back in to it with more releases. Often means that you are upgrading in order to have fewer features.
Personally just going to wait until franco.Kernel has all features merged, PA is all complete, and everything is working properly in official releases (eg. the changes for root access). Less hassle, wipe, reinstall, restore, and go back to a phone that was functioning in the same way as it was before.
Touch driver updates are my huge notice. Screen seems much more responsive to me...... That's it though
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Must have upgrade...until the next available upgrade!
It will come with the new maps v7.. Absolutely no thanks!
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lordvj said:
i'm waiting for a completely unmodified JSS15J aosp rom
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Me too!
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Update is not worth it, but lots of people were waiting for it, that's why there us so much attention for it, but I'm sticking with my 4.2 rom until they update to 4.3 because 4.3 ROMs right now don't have many customization features
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Me too!
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I'll try compile one soon
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Michealtbh said:
The persistent notification thing is really annoying me, otherwise I'm enjoying it
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What persistent notification?
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The improvement in battery life on 4.3 is pretty good. I used to be at a point where it wasn't a whole lot better than my galaxy nexus (so I just used my galaxy nexus for the removable battery), but now I don't mind using my N4 as my daily driver.
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What persistent notification?
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Some apps now have persistent notifications which can't be disabled at all
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Some apps now have persistent notifications which can't be disabled at all
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Yeah like tsf launcher which is hella annoying
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im thinking of switching back to cm10.1.2 and matr1x kernel. right now you gotta either stick with 4.3 stock or 4.3 custom rom and kernel but get used to the little bug here and there. i'd say not worth it for 4.3 now. yes it's a bit smoother and battery life is a bit better, but for me all the hassles are not worth it at thr moment. glad there are a lot of people stick to 4.3 custom roms and kernels so they can test those out and report bugs to the devs, but for me to use this phone as a daily driver, im thinking going back to my stable 4.2.2 setup with greater battery life because of the stable custom kernel and uv.
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4.1.2 Seems faster than 4.3

Just picked up a replacement One and it's on the original version. The thing is it seems snappier than my last phone on 4.3. I'm really debating NOT updating at all and see if 4.3 gets a maintenance update. Anyone agree that 4.1.2 was faster, smoother? opinions?
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You talking about stock Sense 4.3 or a specific rom?
They both feel the same to me. (I was on 4.1.2 and then switched to AOSP 4.3 and jsut came back to Sense 4.3)
Having had three replacement Ones and many android phones, I guarantee it'll slow down in time. Android always feels faster for the first few days. Call it placebo or maybe the systems data bases aren't populated yet, but 4.3 is just as fast as 4.1, if not more so.
I'm experiencing the opposite. 4.3 features mostly performance updates and most importantly, trim. At least for me personally 4.3 is performing much better
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How can you even tell with a phone like this...
Lets not forget that 4.3 came with the constant memory deletion feature if I'm correct. Where it's always cleaning up your drive~~
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4.3 is so much smoother and snappier than 4.1.2 was for me.
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I'm experiencing the opposite. 4.3 features mostly performance updates and most importantly, trim. At least for me personally 4.3 is performing much better
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Yeah feels faster for me. No more using that lagfix app to manually trim.
It feels faster to me but with 4.3 I have a host of Bluetooth issues
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Stock 4.1.2 Geekbench overall 2796
Stock 4.3 Geekbench overall 2932
Seems faster on 4.3 to me.
Only issue I've had so far on 4.3 is the Bluetooth Audio on phone calls seems to get static when I get more than a few feet away from the phone where as it used to seem to let me get further before I heard static, might just be my headset though, I break those things fairly quickly...

KitKat

I have a question. I have been reading about kitkat apps. It seems that particularly the web browser is pretty crap. Can anyone verify these comments? I don't know that it will be an issue, but I was curious if anyone here has any personal experience. If it's bad, I'll stay with 4.2.2 . Thanks.
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Proud2banoob said:
I have a question. I have been reading about kitkat apps. It seems that particularly the web browser is pretty crap. Can anyone verify these comments? I don't know that it will be an issue, but I was curious if anyone here has any personal experience. If it's bad, I'll stay with 4.2.2 . Thanks.
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The launcher is just OK, it's really Google Now's version of a launcher with it built in. I found it be a little slow and very little customization. Fine for the masses who don't know any different (which are the majority of users, sadly). Nova destroys it all day long.
Far as KitKat goes, it all depends on the ROM and the device. Some ROMs are way behind and some are way ahead. I hate to say it but if CM11and SlimKat were all I had to choose from, I'd probably go back to 4.2. Yes CM is the foundation of all ROMs so I'm grateful it's around, but for KitKat they still have a long way to go, at least for S2. Same for SlimKat. Just too many issues. The unofficial ROMs are kicking major butt though. For the Exhibit, I'd stick with 4.2 for now although to be fair I haven't tried the newest KitKat ROMs available here lately. @jfbs is working hard to get you guys a stable 4.4 though!
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The launcher is just OK, it's really Google Now's version of a launcher with it built in. I found it be a little slow and very little customization. Fine for the masses who don't know any different (which are the majority of users, sadly). Nova destroys it all day long.
Far as KitKat goes, it all depends on the ROM and the device. Some ROMs are way behind and some are way ahead. I hate to say it but if CM11and SlimKat were all I had to choose from, I'd probably go back to 4.2. Yes CM is the foundation of all ROMs so I'm grateful it's around, but for KitKat they still have a long way to go, at least for S2. Same for SlimKat. Just too many issues. The unofficial ROMs are kicking major butt though. For the Exhibit, I'd stick with 4.2 for now although to be fair I haven't tried the newest KitKat ROMs available here lately. @jfbs is working hard to get you guys a stable 4.4 though!
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I can easily install Nova again. It's the launcher I use now and I love it. Thanks for the advice. I am looking forward to @jfbs' rom. I was just eager to try kitkat because it was supposedly designed to work on phones like ours, where ram is at a premium. Initial reviews did say it ran much lighter, but I am not sure if it really makes a difference.
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Proud2banoob said:
I can easily install Nova again. It's the launcher I use now and I love it. Thanks for the advice. I am looking forward to @jfbs' rom. I was just eager to try kitkat because it was supposedly designed to work on phones like ours, where ram is at a premium. Initial reviews did say it ran much lighter, but I am not sure if it really makes a difference.
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Ultimately there is one truism I have found, functionality and speed are mainly hardware dependent. You can have the best ROM ever made in history but if the device doesn't have the hardware to back it up, it's useless. I booted the Exhibit for the first time in almost two weeks the other day and it was so much painfully slower than what I have now it isn't even funny. It reminded me how thankful I need to be that I have something else to be honest. A good KitKat ROM may help this device, IDK.
Yeah, the browser on Slimkat is all slow and FC's, even when you try to use a different browser than stock. With the other 4.4 ROMs we have I think you can just use a different browser if the stock has FC issues.
I stay using 4.2, since I can OC higher than 1012MHz and can swap the sd's.
FC stands for force close? Thanks for the advice. I will stay with 4.2 for now. I will see what @jfbs comes up with.
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Proud2banoob said:
FC stands for force close? Thanks for the advice. I will stay with 4.2 for now. I will see what @jfbs comes up with.
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yeah, well thats what I think it means xD.
On CM 11 opera browser works exceptionally well, Chrome was very slow to me.
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Dvarl said:
On CM 11 opera browser works exceptionally well, Chrome was very slow to me.
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Opera was always faster for me as well and also works well when getting Edge and not 3or4g.
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Any news on 4.4?

Hi. I haven't even downloaded 4.3 yet, but I found out that 4.4 is going to have an epic feature: the ability to hide the home-bar and swipe it in when you need it! Finally you're able to use the 5" screen fully in all apps!
Does anyone know when we can expect this update?
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Seaclean said:
Hi. I haven't even downloaded 4.3 yet, but I found out that 4.4 is going to have an epic feature: the ability to hide the home-bar and swipe it in when you need it! Finally you're able to use the 5" screen fully in all apps!
Does anyone know when we can expect this update?
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We have no idea about 4.4 yet. As you said, 4.3 is not yet been made available in all regions much less 4.4.
We know it's coming, I bet somewhere in the first quarter of 2014 and this all depends on a possible new flagship that Sony will reveal at MWC which may put the Xperia Z to the third tier behind Z1 and the new one.
And that feature sure exists on 4.4 but apps must be programmed to get use of it. I have a Nexus 7 with 4.4 and not many apps support the Immersive Experience yet.
Hope I helped!
Yes!, it is coming!, but i don't know when
I think it is a little too soon to start opening threads like this.
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Dude, we JUST got 4.3.
One thing to take away from getting 4.2.2, 4.3 is: We never know before the last minute. There is NEVER a release date set months ahead.
We just have to wait.
being enjoying my full 5" screen for a while using LMT Launcher; swype up for back, home, etc.
no need for on screen buttons =]
i want 4.4 because of the new caching system which is noticeably faster.
this 4.3 is great though as usual from sony!
Seaclean said:
Hi. I haven't even downloaded 4.3 yet, but I found out that 4.4 is going to have an epic feature: the ability to hide the home-bar and swipe it in when you need it! Finally you're able to use the 5" screen fully in all apps!
Does anyone know when we can expect this update?
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My guess is Q2 2014
Tomorrow .
[email protected] Z
You should ask in Sony's support forums, maybe you are lucky and they won't ban you.
Seaclean said:
Hi. I haven't even downloaded 4.3 yet, but I found out that 4.4 is going to have an epic feature: the ability to hide the home-bar and swipe it in when you need it! Finally you're able to use the 5" screen fully in all apps!
Does anyone know when we can expect this update?
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I already have that feature in 4.2.2
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indycar said:
Tomorrow .
[email protected] Z
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+1
Seaclean said:
Hi. I haven't even downloaded 4.3 yet, but I found out that 4.4 is going to have an epic feature: the ability to hide the home-bar and swipe it in when you need it! Finally you're able to use the 5" screen fully in all apps!
Does anyone know when we can expect this update?
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yes!
news is there is no update of 4.4 wait 3 month lol
i got tmobile xperia z and we just got android 4.2.2 we wont probably get 4.3 for a while and who knows about 4.4
meechieballer said:
i got tmobile xperia z and we just got android 4.2.2 we wont probably get 4.3 for a while and who knows about 4.4
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Flash any unbranded firmware available out there.
Seaclean said:
Hi. I haven't even downloaded 4.3 yet, but I found out that 4.4 is going to have an epic feature: the ability to hide the home-bar and swipe it in when you need it! Finally you're able to use the 5" screen fully in all apps!
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gmd.hidesoftkeys
It came out yesterday, where u been?
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mety333 said:
being enjoying my full 5" screen for a while using LMT Launcher; swype up for back, home, etc.
no need for on screen buttons =]
i want 4.4 because of the new caching system which is noticeably faster.
this 4.3 is great though as usual from sony!
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Give it a try to CM or AOSP 4.4.2 you will have a more optimized and faster Android, and you will enjoy the new features.
I recommend you Mokee ROM with Meaw Kernel.
You will find the threads in Original Android Development section
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Simple...when other manufacturers release the 4.4...wait 6-8months then we can have our kitkat for XZ
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jpacho89 said:
Give it a try to CM or AOSP 4.4.2 you will have a more optimized and faster Android, and you will enjoy the new features.
I recommend you Mokee ROM with Meaw Kernel.
You will find the threads in Original Android Development section
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unfortunetley i have the US T mobile Xperia Z with a locked bootloader... had to get this version for the AMAZINGLY FAST 4G LTE

Does anyone like the official KK?

Anyone with the OTA enjoy the KK?
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Anyone with the OTA enjoy the KK?
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Of couse, its runs well, there is nothing wrong with it. The Galaxy Note 3 is a beast of a device, root or not. I got my Note with KK pre-installed and while I want root, the device hasn't missed a beat so far, everything runs smoothly.
Yes and no. Yes because I like the plain white status bar icons. No because I can't root, I can't use third party apps to write to the external SD card, and after downgrading to KitKat it has erased my external SD card twice.
i have had no issues with the ota rom, and from my kingo rooted, no rom'd jelly bean, my battery life is minimum 50% better on the OTA KK
KK has been running fantastic for me. I never run the stock launcher so really for me the ONLY thing I wish I was able to do is run Xposed modules Wanam to change a few visual items. But performance wise? ZERO issues at all. Battery life is excellent for me(Please remember thats VERY subjective)
My battery life went down. I am in the process of backing up all my settings to do a hard reset. The phonehas also started to hang when waking up from screen off.
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I'm pleased with 4.4.2. It fixed my GPS and video problems. The phone's performance (including battery life) is about the same or slightly better than before the update. It's been very stable. No problems with using my (64GB) microSD card (encrypted).
I love the official kitkat because it's soooo smooth, but I miss having the freedom of changing things around a bit. But I still think my battery life was a bit better with jellybean. I use to get 6 hours screen time as with the ota kitkat only giving me 5 hour's. I guess I have to take the good with the bad.
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So is there any chance of anyone achieving root on the official KK?
I think there is a chance. I bet we'll have root again sometime between now and the end of the year.

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