Hi, someone is trying to sell my gf this phone for about 150 USD, Is it better than a moto g? Is it still worth buying?
Descendent182 said:
Hi, someone is trying to sell my gf this phone for about 150 USD, Is it better than a moto g? Is it still worth buying?
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That's a pretty good price... but I wouldn't buy this phone for $150 (Way too many problems with it to fit in 1 post).
The main problems with it:
-Terrible performance in Samsung Jelly Bean (very slow, slightly laggy in scrolling, not enough RAM to keep 2 apps in memory at the same time)
-Appalling performance in AOSP firmwares (extremely fast, terribly laggy in scrolling) - that's Samsungs fault due to them not giving a rats ass about devs
-Black clipping with the screen
-A legacy phone now (No more official updates, fewer devs)
If your GF doesn't mind a small screen and probably an inferior camera to the Note's then she should get the Moto.
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Hi, someone is trying to sell my gf this phone for about 150 USD, Is it better than a moto g? Is it still worth buying?
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150 would be spot on for value, imho. If the N7000 is in peak condition. Is it better then a moto G? No. I would say the moto G is slightly better. But the note does have some things going for it: Bigger, Better screen (IMHO) and the stylus.
I would only recommend it with a custom rom. Stock firmware is not good.
I would not trade my N7000 for a moto G.
It is a legacy device.. still pretty good with stock jellybean.. yes a bit slow but gb firmware can always come in handy! yet I suggest you to leave a 2.5 year old device and get the moto g with stock 4.4 latest update!
Go with the Moto G. You'll get official KitKat, future updates and a fresher community here at XDA. You're basically buying a "dead" device if you choose the Note.
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Ok, I'll stick with moto g then, thanks!
Descriptions above are generally correct, however there are things not to forget (from my personal experience, I still own the Note):
1. Much larger screen
2. SD card slot (mine was effectively 48 GB)
3. Replaceable battery (2 times already replaced for ~$15 a piece)
4. Better camera
If I was forced to choose between the two it'd be real hard for me.
tatkovladko said:
Descriptions above are generally correct, however there are things not to forget (from my personal experience, I still own the Note):
1. Much larger screen
2. SD card slot (mine was effectively 48 GB)
3. Replaceable battery (2 times already replaced for ~$15 a piece)
4. Better camera
If I was forced to choose between the two it'd be real hard for me.
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I would still go for the Note 2. Not to be bias, but since the Note 2 is getting cheaper now, it's a good choice due to it's screen size, performance and the support u can get here at XDA.
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Hi, someone is trying to sell my gf this phone for about 150 USD, Is it better than a moto g? Is it still worth buying?
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I would say it is worth buying for that price.
I haven't played with a Moto G so I don't know if it is better or not.
The Samsung Note is still a great phone is you run the right ROM.
I have had mine since it was released and can't see any great reason to upgrade as it does everything I need it to do.
I don't get my phones on contract, I tend to buy them outright and get a cheap SIM only deal.
There are lots of customised stock ROMs with the Samsung UI and apps for the S-Pen.
Or there are many awesome vanilla-esque tweaked KitKat ROMs such as Omni and Dirty Unicorns.
Watch out for a phone that won't charge.
Could be a damaged USB daughter board (about £35 in the UK at Samsung repair centre).
Or could be a knackered battery (about £30 from Samsung, good alternatives from Anser etc. for under £20)
Also...............
The camera is awesome.
You can slot anything up to 64Gb SD card into the Note, depending upon ROM/Kernel.
It is very well built.
But don't expect any further Samsung support, your support will be through Google and XDA.
Note ftw
Having tried both phones (moto g has a friend of mine and i am a proud owner of a Note), i can assure you it is great value for money for the price you said. Here in greece it is sold around 230$ for a used one. You should consider buying it if you want a bigger and better screen (AMOLED = deeper blacks and more vibrant colours), a stylus, more cases, back covers, huge batteries(3000 mAh +) and generally more accessories . Also keep in mind that with a stock rom (many crapsung apps and stuff in it...) it is a bit sluggish and you better go custom (or else it is not worth it IMHO). Since it is a rather popular phone there are many custom roms with kitkat at the moment. I choose roms compiled with linaro or sabermod toolchains since they are a lot smoother(my note is more buttery smooth compared to my cousin's stock galaxy s4) and more battery friendly than other custom roms. I use the Slimsaber rom and never thought of changing to another phone since then
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I find my Galaxy Nexus too big, and I am very intrigued by this phone. It looks like I can get it new and unlocked for about $130-160 on Ebay and it has about the same, if not better specs than my Gnex.
Could anyone offer me any arguments for or against this move?
Don't factor unlocked into your buying decision, you can unlock it yourself once you have root.
The "cons":
- "Only" 16 gb of storage (yet I don't know anyone who puts 16 gb of anything on their phone)
- "Mid range" specs (I've tested the most graphically intense games out there and they run smoothly)
- Size
- Facebook Home (not worth mentioning, we're on XDA)
The real cons:
- The camera is relatively weak but it improves with this mod.
- No expandable storage
- No removable battery
- Little attention
The pros:
- High PPI
- Specs
- Good battery life
- LTE, NFC
- Size
- Solid construction
- Matte finish
I don't understand why so few people care about this phone but go gaga over the One Mini, they're practically twins specwise. I guess people just like shiny things I'm a Thinkpad kinda guy so the First looks better to me.
People are trying to port the One Mini's stock 4.2.2 rom, once that's successful we might see Cyanogen on the First. Until then I'd recommend sticking to stock, JMZ's sense rom has a few issues.
Thank You for the information.
I actually consider size one of my primary motivations for going this route. I find most modern phones way too large, and I sure as hell do not want to go the Iphone route. This phone seems like a really awesome phone that just wasn't marketed properly.
I do not mind the mid range specs, and my Gnex already is stuck at 16gb with no expandable storage, and while the battery is removable, its still a pretty weak battery.
I hope to be able to get one off Ebay sometime in the next couple of weeks, wait for the right deal.
In the first set of cons I was referring to things that reviewers have complained about. I kid you not, they complained about screen size after using their Galaxy phones for so long. They complained about numbers in benchmarks that are nigh unnoticeable in actual use. Then they spend the rest of the review bashing FB home which can be turned off with 2 taps.
Well, I purchased a HTC First today off of Ebay. I should be getting it by the end of next week. Pretty excited.
This phone needs a micro sim, not a regular sim is that right?
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Well, I purchased a HTC First today off of Ebay. I should be getting it by the end of next week. Pretty excited.
This phone needs a micro sim, not a regular sim is that right?
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Yes, a micro sim.
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I find my Galaxy Nexus too big, and I am very intrigued by this phone. It looks like I can get it new and unlocked for about $130-160 on Ebay and it has about the same, if not better specs than my Gnex.
Could anyone offer me any arguments for or against this move?
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I thought the HTC First was pretty great coming from the Galaxy Nexus. If you compare screen sizes, the ammount of display available on the Gnex is about equal to what's available on the First due to the on screen buttons on the GNex. I think the First is faster, has a prettier display, and has a really unique look along with LTE. That being said, my biggest complaint is that the phone is a forgotten phone already. There's no development support which is a huge bummer. I'd LOVE it if I could throw CM or AOKP on this device. It would be a dream come true.
I just got this phone and my mom took over my lg optimus g on sprint and put in a straight talk at&t LTE capable micro Sim card. I like the size and stock aosp. Coming from a rooted lg optimus g running pacman.
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We have unofficial cm ports coming so we have some support. But HTC told me that its been discontinued.
Um, ya camera isn't as good as I would like, but hen I was picking between a used one x and this I picked the first cause 1.4ghz is a lot, my hands are small so 4.7 inches is too much and the used one x was 220$ while I got this for 155$ brand new.
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would you buy the nexus 6 again today over other phones?
Yes but not direct from Motorola
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Probably not.
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would you buy the nexus 6 again today over other phones?
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I perhaps would try the LG G4. Prior to switching I had the LG G3 and it was a pretty great phone. Considering you only needed root and the exposed framework to do many cool features. Thought that it was a great concept for moving forward with devices. No longer waiting for that special ROM to come. It was truly a no hassle phone.
I'd go with the Sammy S6 edge except it is very small on screen size. But my number one concern with any phone is support for Android Auto, cause when I'm mobile, I am and want to be hands free mobile. But in my humble opinion, the Nexus is much more of a dedicated ROM, Framework, and Governor type phone which requires constant attention and tweaking by the user to get the most out of.
I love my N6 but I wish the camera was faster. The camera on the G4 is the only thing I covet
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Yes, I was not at all impressed with the m9. I must admit the s6 did impress me however only 5 inches and no front facing speakers makes me not want it. I must admit I am anxiously waiting for the note 5 and what ever the next Nexus device is going to be at the end of the year. If the next Nexus is smaller than 5.5 inches I will definitely consider the Note 5.
I am still very happy with my Nexus 6
I tend not to buy phones that are 6 months old. If it was 3 months ago, then yes.
There is nothing now that I feel would be any better either though. I'd probably be waiting until Autumn unless I had a desperate requirement
Yes, mostly because root is more and more elusive. There's so much less to worry about with a Nexus device: no need for exploits nor bootloader codes, no worries about bricking, and no lack of dev support.
That said, there are areas I would like to see improvement. Between Google and all the dev support, we don't have to wait long to see and implement them.
Coming from a S4 to this phone is like night and day. Boot loader, root, general flashing all much easier with a great forum to provide support.... whats not to love?? If none of those things matter to you then any phone would do but if you like to live a little on the edge and try new stuff.... this type of phone is a good choice.
Yes. Tired of waiting for ROMs and bootloader hacks and root access for other phones. Google gives you access to everything right out the box.
I would buy my Nexus 6 today in a heartbeat. Even though it's now an "older" device, there are many points that I love and haven't really seen in other devices. Top 5 reasons:
1. Aftermarket/community support
2. Build materials and quality (I like the plastic back with the metal frame. Might not be as "pretty" but the back is less likely to show abrasions and won't dent)
3. Lollipop/"Pure" Android (no bloat, cutting-edge software, timely updates)
4. The amazing hardware package (although we all agree the camera could be better on a device in this class)
a. awesome processors
b. lots o' RAM
c. fantastic radios (cell, GPS, BT, WiFi)
d. wonderful front stereo speakers
e. dat screen, doh
f. etc...
5. Size and shape
As others have said, I cannot go without an rooted and unlocked device. My heart would sink if i had an unmodable phone. The dev and community support is great. Other phones may have nice features here and there or higher benchmarks but if it cannot rooted and unlocked I'll pass. The manufacturers may have a their own idea of how a phone should be setup, but I don't prefer it. I want to tweak it to my liking, especially since this is primarily what in use to communicate with the world.
Just as in the plethora of ROMs available here: some are stock+ while others have a ton of features. I, fortunately, have the ability to choose which user-interface best pleases my needs.
If all phones were unlocked and rootable I would have to rethink my answer.
I would absolutely buy it again.
I did just purchase mine. Had the s6 and had to return it because of display issues and the battery life was terrible. At the store they gave me a replacement with the same display issue (pink tint on bottom 1/3 of the display, very noticable next to the display model). Looked at the g flex 2 and m9 and decided I wanted to go with this. I had been saying I was gonna get a nexus anyway but the s6's hardware was very appealing. I am not disappointed with my decision at all. I did think the battery life would be a little better on this and it does get uncomfortably toasty at times but I do love this phone.
Definitely would buy again.
1) Unlockable bootloader with so little hassle
2) Dev community
At the same time I have been putting up with a slow camera ;(
Edit: good solution for camera just found: open camera (in the GPS: Dev mark Harman)
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I did just purchase mine. Had the s6 and had to return it because of display issues and the battery life was terrible. At the store they gave me a replacement with the same display issue (pink tint on bottom 1/3 of the display, very noticable next to the display model). Looked at the g flex 2 and m9 and decided I wanted to go with this. I had been saying I was gonna get a nexus anyway but the s6's hardware was very appealing. I am not disappointed with my decision at all. I did think the battery life would be a little better on this and it does get uncomfortably toasty at times but I do love this phone.
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Check out the disabling services thread in general http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/disabling-google-play-services-guide-t2999821/page22 post 220 talks about disabling receivers, it refers to the google play update receivers they start with system.update. I disabled those 3 and battery life has been pretty good (along with other stuff I don't use... Fit, Kids, and such). Of course you need to be rooted to do this, I am using My Android Tools (I got the paid version but there is also a free version I think) to disable stuff. Just pay close attention to the thread and don't try to experiment.... at a minimum, you will want to have a nandroid backup before you start just incase you disable something by mistake.
in tech, its all about timing. there are 810 phones i can get today.. though i think i might be happier with the 805 than the 810, but the chips in the s6 look pretty good... i might even wait for the 6s-plus to come out if i were shopping today (if the 6 plus had 2 gigs of ram i would have gotten a 6 plus)... the phone i wanted more than anything was the droid turbo when deciding (was between nexus 6, moto x, m8 and droid turbo... so lots of moto). after seeing all the development for the nexus, i dont think i would go to another phone... but an lg nexus with ips display might be nice (dont need 4k, 1080 is fine... want a 4200 mAh battery).
and i have a feeling we are still unlocking new potential with the phone, porting moto features, getting cm implementation ironed out... lollipop is still in growing pains...
I just bought mine a couple weeks ago so I'd say yes. I was just tired of lack of root and delayed updates on the Note 4.
I've been awarded an insurance payout for my LG G2, a phone that I love and really don't have any problems with. I have the option of paying for LG to repair the device, or to apply the new funds to a new phone, I'm thinking the 5X. I'm torn between the two. The specs on the G2 have been more than enough for me. I'm envious of newer flagships cameras vs the G2... Though I'm not sure about the camera on the 5X.
I'm very interested in having OS updates directly from google, but truthfully, I'm also a heavy user of Xposed, and can't see myself being an early adopter of M anyway. I'm worried that the 2GB of ram and mid range processor on the 5X could pose a problem for future OS updates (Post Android M). I'm also curious about the G5, but given the form factor trend getting larger and larger, G3 and G4, I highly doubt they're going to to back to the smaller size that I love w/ the G2/Nexus5/Nexus5X. My most important factors are Camera, battery life, and form factor with a strong preference for future proofing/performance... aka ram and processor.
Given the choice of repairing the G2 for 150 dollars (and waiting for a future device down the road) or receiving 150 dollars off the purchase of a new Nexus 5X... what would you choose?
I was eagerly awaiting the announcement of the new nexus 5, but like many was disappointed with the result. It has a slight performance bump due to sd808/adreno418, a potentially better camera and a fingerprint sensor, but it's also physically MUCH bigger than the G2 despite the same screen size and yet also has a smaller battery. If I'm going to go with a bigger device overall, I'd rather have the bigger screen and battery to go with it.
I actually purchased a brand new (not refurbished) G2 relatively recently and am glad I did. I don't see many phones coming with the same size/performance balance. If I were you, I would take the money and see if I could find newish (not refurbished) G2 for less than $200. The key is getting a fresh battery, and there's no guarantee there with a refurb or repair. Look on swappa/eBay. This phone still has a lot of life left.
Have you considered the Moto X Pure Edition. I think it should check all your boxes and is only $20 more than the 5X.
yes, mach01, I think you're right, the Moto X seems the better buy vs the nexus, developer community aside. I'm back to leaning towards @xdabbeb's opinion though... getting the G2 repaired w/ a battery replacement. I'm wildly disappointed w/ LG's hardware support team, there doesn't seem to be any way for them to add a new battery to the repair... even after offering to pay for it. Might have a local shop in the area do it instead. I hope that the community doesn't drop dead for the G2.... I'd really like to get Doze (and android M) on the G2, but bigger and better devices are on the horizon, and I can't fault others for wanting to jump ship.
Let me just put it this way.... I have owned the G2 since it came out. Bought it brand new straight from Verizon the first week it was out if I recall correctly. I have used and abused it every day since then (2 years). Running xdabbeb's Rom with his kernel and xcam my G2 beat every phone that came out in 2014, in battery life, size, speed, and camera quality. Literally I couldnt find a decent excuse to upgrade. So solid. Then about a month ago my digitizer started going out. Couldn't swipe anymore. Thats a deal breaker for me. So I started looking. Ended up going with the Moto X Pure 2015 because I wanted front facing speakers and custom colors. And so far it has been a great choice. However comparing the phones side by side I would say the G2 still holds its own. Its my favorite 5 inch device still to this day. My favorite phablet is the new moto x. Anyways I say all that to throw my hat in with the G2 "best 5 inch phone award", especially with the modding community headed up by xdabbeb. Great stuff and still the 5 inch phone I would recommend for the money, as long as the person buying it is planning on modding it. Without modding it the phone is pretty laggy and has issues.
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Did you ever get to decide on which device u would move forward with? Am faced with the same dilemma u were facing a while ago.
Hi guys,
Yesterday I hard bricked my GS4 trying to update it to marshmellow. The repair will cost $40 and this is after I spent $110 replacing the digitizer. I decided to give up on that device (It was getting a bit beat up anyway).
Walmart is currently selling the ATT version for $250. I bought it but now I am wondering if it is still worth the value now (late 2015). The S4 was starting to show its age especially with the bloatware which is why I was attempting to upgrade the OS. What better place to ask this than a forum full of tech geeks like me who have actually used the device!
So, what do you guys say? Is it worth it now to buy as a daily driver? What do you guys think of the cost? How is the custom rom community? I saw that Samsung EOLed it at 5.0 but what are the chances custom roms will keep going for a few more versions? I have just started to browse this section of xda. The S4 was a hassle especially if people accidentally upgraded it to Lollipop. I know I followed the directions to a T but I still go the hard brick so I am hesitant to attempt to mess around with a Samsung device again.
If anyone has experience with the S4, how is the experience compared to it?
Sorry if this stuff was recently asked, I just quickly browsed the front page of this section
It is an excellent device. The only thing that bothers me is the size. My personal opinion: Debatably, even the latest gen devices haven't added much value to the daily use factors(speed, screen quality etc). A little bit, yes. But not a lot. You can compare the devices and see it yourself. I don't need to upgrade the device. My hands are relatively smaller, so the size matters especially considering the case etc. Otherwise Note 3 is a solid device. Ofcourse root and get rid of the crapware if you running stock rom. You will be happy you did.
FYI to give you an idea about the price: In 2014, i bought a "certified like new" from att for 270 + taxes + activation without contract. It was really new except for the brown box it came in.
Again, My Personal opinion: Just got a OnePlus X for my wife. Only $267 including shipping. Good specs, 1080P screen , snapD 801 processor, thinner, lighter and handy compared to iphone or GS 6. In short Love it.
For me size doesn't matter since I am 6'2" with giant hands. I bought my mom the original OPO and she liked it. The only thing I feel like I would be missing out on are the fingerprint readers but those are currently only on the high end devices right now which I can't afford yet.
Note 3 is indeed a great phone/device you can have but in the mean time you can have too many other comparatively new devices in the same range of bucks, then why go back to 2013 while in my opinion you can buy some MOTO, LG, Asus, and a lot of Chinese flagship devices in that range or just a little more up on. I would suggest you Note 3. And i would never bought it if i was in your place. (worthy mention that i have one AT&T's N900A) but my situation is quite different, i have bought it (used one) almost 9 months ago and that too here in Pakistan where most of the new devices are either out of my range or not at all available here.
Hell yes. I wont upgrade cause I know I wont like my nextphone as much as my note 3. Its a tough phone. Ive bootlooped and softbricked this thing so many times and it just keeps getting better. I broke the screen once and mailed out for it to savea couple hundred and do it myself and now have half n900a and half n900t. I know. Just the carriers. I might just get another note 3 when this one dies.
I've the chance to buy probably BNDS / BNIB units at the same cost as say more recent MT6737M/ Snapdragon 435 even MT6795 units with microsd, 64bit support.
I'm tempted by having the snapdragon 801 at a low cost but is it too late now expecially with the lack of 64bit support or does its raw power still relevant?
What would you do?
Moto X was a great device in its era. Even today I still praise it for the most compact device with a 5,2 inch screen. I can operate it easily with one hand. But,in today's standart,it's an outdated device. You got plenty devices with better specs and prices to choose. The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life. I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4X and comparing both is so pathetic. Battery endurance in Redmi Note 4 is so much better. If Moto X is the device with 4000 mah battery, I think it's still countable. With custom ROM,Moto X is still fast and fluid. I prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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I don't even know how to root it to get sunshine. Kingroot doesnt work and sunshine says the firmware isnt compatible.
Absolutely......................................not. Look I love my X 2014 but it was a flawed device when it came out and that didn't let it age well. The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison. The lack of fingerprint sensor might not seem like a big deal but until you use it, you don't know what your missing. The phone is still smooth but how long until developers move on. The design in my opinion was still one of the best, a classic for sure. It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.
Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus
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huatz84 said:
prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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Yeah I had hoped that the overall experience is still preferable even taking into account its cons.
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The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life.
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I'm of the mindset that I can offset this issuee with phone with lots of powerbank choices now.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison.
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This is disappointing -- 1 factor that makes me consider this is (since i had no real life experience with it) -- that the AMOLED screen and camera would still be competent to comparable models.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
...It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.
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Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus
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OK, if while considering all the above I add the relative context that in my area if available the G5 plus is 200USD, while the Moto X would be 110USD bnew, would that make it more appealing?
I've had mine for 2 years, and still loving it. I bought it in a carrier store for 400 Canadian Dollars. Since I can only buy phones in a store at full retail price, my choices are somewhat limited. I still can't find a "better" phone at $500 CAD. My Moto X 2014 is running the latest Android perfectly with 2GB RAM, and will run Android 8.0 Oreo (custom ROMs). The only consideration is band support, as it may not support the latest and fastest LTE bands used by some carriers nowadays. Also, this phone has NFC, some lower priced new phones may not.
The things I would be looking for in a new phone: longer battery life, latest LTE bands support, and maybe a bigger screen, like 5.5+ inch.
I just got that phone about 3 days ago... It is just amazing..remember.. It was a flagship.. Soft/hdw integratiom are perfect. Even with low battery and 2 gb of ram.. It's more worthy than several mid ranges phone mentioned. Besides, you get plenty of development for at least one more year.. Go for it!