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What do you guys think about the Moto X?

The customization options look really great... I'm contemplating on making a switch when it's released. Really looking forward to August 1 so I can make a more concrete decision however.
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17Randolph said:
I'm sticking with the N4. Same software, a quad core instead of a dual core, same screen size I believe, and same android experience.
The Moto X will probably have better battery life and don't get me wrong, it will be a good phone.
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Only by 100 mAh.
Stick with the N4, wait for the N5 if u really want a new phone. MX is last years' specs :/

We'll see when it is officially released. ut if it is the same price range as the Nexus 4 ($250 - $350), I'll probably buy it. Since realizing I love these phones so much more caseless, I'll be glad to have one that isn't so fragile.

zephiK said:
Only by 100 mAh.
Stick with the N4, wait for the N5 if u really want a new phone. MX is last years' specs :/
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The Moto X has LTE, a better camera, and supposedly better battery life. Who cares about specs. In almost every category it is as good or better than the N4 (and for the same price). I don't think it is a tough choice if you are looking for a new phone.

The Moto X has been optimised better. It actually feels faster than the Nexus 4 when using it and scores higher in benchmarks. Might get it just because of how cheap it will be, and then upgreade to the Nexus 5 in a few months.

bozzykid said:
The Moto X has LTE, a better camera, and supposedly better battery life. Who cares about specs. In almost every category it is as good or better than the N4 (and for the same price). I don't think it is a tough choice if you are looking for a new phone.
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Nexus 4 has LTE as well (unofficially). Better battery life? Its only 100 mAh. If its software wise then thats just optimization on software side not hardware side.
Battery for me on the N4 is fine. I last through the whole day with 30% battery life. Specs matter, why pay money for a device that is outdated when you can get a beast phone like a S4 that is a quad core in the same price range OR the G2 which is really good with a Snapdragon 800, ~2500mAh, STEREO speakers, 1080p display.
G2 will dethrone Moto X easily. And with N5 rumors being it based off the G2, the N5 will be even better than the Moto X without question.
Not to mention, N4 has 4.3, Moto X will be launching with 4.2.2 and will still need carrier approval for a OTA to be pushed out where Google can push it out without the carriers saying so the N4 will ALWAYS have the latest update and open binary files.
Motorola's bootloader policy? Not sure... but on the DROID lineups, they're all locked. Nexus is without a doubt a hands down the best experience when it comes to using custom roms, kernels, etc. Its better to stay with a Nexus device. Once a Nexus, always a Nexus is the motto to live by.

I'm most excited about the fact that it's being manufactured stateside. That's about it - my N4 is satisfactory for the time being.
However, if the MotoX succeeds, and its successors continue to be made in North America, then I'll get whatever the latest MotoX is when it's time to replace my N4.
This assumes that Motorola makes the device open and supports it properly though. If it's as locked down as their razrs and droids, I'm not interested.

zephiK said:
Nexus 4 has LTE as well (unofficially). Better battery life? Its only 100 mAh. If its software wise then thats just optimization on software side not hardware side.
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LTE only works on band 4 not 99% of the carriers around the world and it requires you to use an old radio that is no longer supported. I'm sorry but that is not LTE support.
As for battery life, who cares why it is better as long as it is better?
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Not to mention, N4 has 4.3, Moto X will be launching with 4.2.2 and will still need carrier approval for a OTA to be pushed out where Google can push it out without the carriers saying so the N4 will ALWAYS have the latest update and open binary files.
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The Moto X should be on the Play Store as well which means there will be a non carrier version which will not have to deal with carrier approval.

I'm likely going to get it since it's a slimmer and smaller phone overall compared to other flagships. The Moto X's size is very comparable to the iPhone 5 while having the same screen size as the Nexus 4. I don't really mind the updates, since Google will likely sell this in the play store with a cheap off contract price along with the option of custom made orders.
I honestly can't wait until reviews start coming in, if it's not really compelling (the battery isn't that much better or camera) then I'll most likely keep my N4. I just hate the glass back and how wide the Nexus is in my hands.

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New Device - Anyone updated?

Has any heavy Droid Turbo user updated to the S6 or LG G4? I am getting a little tired of my Turbo screen - seems the new screens have some much more resolution.

Resolution is the same.. its just the Samsung screen is much much brighter

Color saturation and brightness are the difference. If you are bored of the screen on your Turbo, you might be difficult to please. Also, reports indicate that battery life with the S6 is dismal due to software issues. For me, the Turbo, as with the Droid MAXX series before, always comes down to battery life. It still tops the competition.

Martingitdave said:
Color saturation and brightness are the difference. If you are bored of the screen on your Turbo, you might be difficult to please. Also, reports indicate that battery life with the S6 is dismal due to software issues. For me, the Turbo, as with the Droid MAXX series before, always comes down to battery life. It still tops the competition.
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One thing I LOVE about my Moto Maxx (same hardware as the Droid Turbo) is the 3900 mAh battery. Oh my goodness. Coming from two Nexus phones (Google is always skimpy with the batteries), it's been fantastic. The 5.2" Quark phones (Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx) have LARGER batteries than the 5.96" Motorola Nexus 6.
I'm not always looking for a place to plug in.
All manufacturers should do that. Just put in a bigger battery!
I notice for the just-announced Galaxy S6 "Active", Samsung has decided to put in a 3500 mAh battery instead of the 2550 mAh they put in the Galaxy S6. THAT small size was very strange. The 2015 5.1" 1440p S6 (2550 mAh) has a SMALLER battery than the 2014 5.1" 1080p Galaxy S5 (2800 mAh). What was Samsung thinking?
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I just won an AT&T LG G4. Pre-release marketing campaign and I got lucky. $699 retail value. Company says it will arrive first two weeks of August. I'm seriously thinking about selling it on eBay and keeping my Moto Maxx...
The only thing Motorola could have done to make the Moto Maxx better was rear camera OIS like they put in the Nexus 6. They knew how to do it, but didn't. They put everything else in... Qi wireless, turbo charging, 1440p, 3GB RAM, multiple carrier LTE capability, and huge BATTERY.

AT&T just announced a Galaxy S6 Active with a 3500 mAh battery...

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AT&T just announced a Galaxy S6 Active with a 3500 mAh battery...
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I just said that.

ChazzMatt said:
I just said that.
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I love my turbo - I am just going to stick with it until the next Moto comes out

I came to the Turbo from a Note 4. The Samsung has the best screen out there, but not by much. It is fast, and it takes a MicroSD card and you can remove the battery. Touchwhiz has been toned down on the lollipop OTA.
That said, a family member needed a new phone and didn't have the money to spend on an upgrade, so I paid it for her and took the new phone and gave her the Note 4.
I got the Turbo. Game up a little screen size and the SD slot, but the internals are the same, the phone is very well built, gets insane battery life(The Note 4 was no slouch either), and it is water repellent, which matters to me when riding in the summer and I get caught out in a rain storm...
If not for the damned lollipop update taking forever, this would be nearly the perfect phone...

bturkel said:
Has any heavy Droid Turbo user updated to the S6 or LG G4? I am getting a little tired of my Turbo screen - seems the new screens have some much more resolution.
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1440x2560 on a 5.2" screen (565 PPI) isn't good enough for you??

I dunno guys, but I'm not able to see much difference between my Droid MAXX (5.0" 720p) and Moto MAXX (5.2" 1440p) when it comes to the pixel density. On stock, the Turbo's warm colors were a bit annoying, but that's something I adjusted in CM12.1 just fine (setting under LiveDisplay 95% to R, 95% to G, 100% to B) and the colors are nicely colder.

I am getting the g4 tomorrow because I had to switch to T-Mobile unfortunately in terms of having unlimited data and what not. I have been fed up with the turbo not receiving lollipop for the longest time. The advanced hd calling bs is wack because in reality if you think about it, the Verizon g2, htc m7, s4 and what not didn't have it at all as well and have been updated to lollipop with no problem way before this phone has even when being promised asap the update. It's been a well good use with the turbo for all this time, exceptional battery life, but didn't like the heating issues it has after using for about 20 mins doing normal browsing on social media and browser.

wadamean said:
I am getting the g4 tomorrow because I had to switch to T-Mobile unfortunately in terms of having unlimited data and what not. I have been fed up with the turbo not receiving lollipop for the longest time. The advanced hd calling bs is wack because in reality if you think about it, the Verizon g2, htc m7, s4 and what not didn't have it at all as well and have been updated to lollipop with no problem way before this phone has even when being promised asap the update. It's been a well good use with the turbo for all this time, exceptional battery life, but didn't like the heating issues it has after using for about 20 mins doing normal browsing on social media and browser.
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Let us know how the G4 compares.
I plan on sticking with the Turbo (actually Moto Maxx) until the flagship phones are out with the Snapdragon 820...assuming the 820 doesn't have issues like the 810.

GeodudeFFP said:
Let us know how the G4 compares.
I plan on sticking with the Turbo (actually Moto Maxx) until the flagship phones are out with the Snapdragon 820...assuming the 820 doesn't have issues like the 810.
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I surely will let all of you know how it stacks up. I might miss the droid turbo because of the battery life, but lg g4 reigns supreme because of the extra battery and super high capacity micro sd expansion.

Having played with the Nexus for several days now, I am glad that I switched. The screen is larger and a tad nicer, and running unmodified Lollipop really is nice for a change. It;s fast, fluid, etc... Easily unlocked and rooted, you get to play with developer previews, etc... It just works really well.
What I miss? Battery life and the gestures, but battery life is still solid and gestures like waving your hand over it... It's nice, but it isn't a deal breaker for me... Overall I think I got the better phone.

SquireSCA said:
Having played with the Nexus for several days now, I am glad that I switched. The screen is larger and a tad nicer, and running unmodified Lollipop really is nice for a change. It;s fast, fluid, etc... Easily unlocked and rooted, you get to play with developer previews, etc... It just works really well.
What I miss? Battery life and the gestures, but battery life is still solid and gestures like waving your hand over it... It's nice, but it isn't a deal breaker for me... Overall I think I got the better phone.
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That's good news! I'm glad you are much more satisfied with the nexus, I too was going to get it but its too big for me, plus for me the camera is a crucial feature on a smartphone. I ended up getting the g4 and waiting for it to be delivered today at my house.

wadamean said:
That's good news! I'm glad you are much more satisfied with the nexus, I too was going to get it but its too big for me, plus for me the camera is a crucial feature on a smartphone. I ended up getting the g4 and waiting for it to be delivered today at my house.
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The G4 is supposed to be really nice. I went Nexus because I am always getting pissed off that I can't unlock the phone, or updates take forever, etc... I always regret not getting the Nexus or DE phone...
I got the Turbo without even thinking. I just assumed that it had Lollipop... Got annoyed when I saw that it didn't, and started thinking, do I want to be locked into this phone for the next year or two?
I looked at the G4, the S6 and the Nexus and went with the Nexus, while my fiance went with the S6

Ended up getting the lg g4 since I moved to tmobile

Moto/Droid Turbo/Maxx vs OnePlus Two

So now we have the new OnePlus Two with a bigger battery, better processor, more RAM, probably a better camera too, and all that at a much cheaper price. Is the Turbo still worth it?
650$ for the Turbo vs 400$ for the OnePlus Two where I am.
Let the Opinions roll!

sHanKzZz said:
So now we have the new OnePlus Two with a bigger battery, better processor, more RAM, probably a better camera too, and all that at a much cheaper price. Is the Turbo still worth it?
650$ for the Turbo vs 400$ for the OnePlus Two where I am.
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Opinion is the OnePlus is ALMOST a top tier phone.
Leaving out 1440p to go with 1080p is debatable. I can see the argument for 1080p, especially with a 3300 mAh battery, would be a comfort to some people to really go two days without charging. I prefer 1440p, but that's my opinion.
What's NOT debatable is the the strange reason no NFC, no Turbo charging (Quick Charge 2.0), no Qi wireless charging. For a an allegedly top spec Android in 2nd half of 2015, that hurts badly. Yes, everything else was done right (rear camera OIS with laser focus, 4GB RAM, 64GB storage, etc). How much more would it have cost them to include those items? Another $50? The total cost would still have been less than $450.
We don't want just the cheapest phone. We want the cheapest phone with the best specs. I need Qi wireless especially. And Turbo charging has proved very valuable. And even the iPhone now finally has NFC. Android had it first. How can a top tier Android NOT have NFC?

Well, agreed, it does make a few compromises. But I am assuming that with the 1080p screen and 3300 MaH battery, the OnePlus Two should last enough to be able to be plugged in at night, when it really doesn't matter if you have QuickCharge or not. I won't be surprised if the OnePlus Two's real life battery performance turns out to be better than the Turbo's, actually.
So after that, given the list of pros (Better Camera, Better Performance, Extreme Value) and cons (Slightly big for one hand use, No NFC and No Qi charging, not a deal breaker for many I am assuming), is it still ok to go buy the Turbo at it's current price?

sHanKzZz said:
So now we have the new OnePlus Two with a bigger battery, better processor, more RAM, probably a better camera too, and all that at a much cheaper price. Is the Turbo still worth it?
650$ for the Turbo vs 400$ for the OnePlus Two where I am.
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Well, agreed, it does make a few compromises. But I am assuming that with the 1080p screen and 3300 MaH battery, the OnePlus Two should last enough to be able to be plugged in at night, when it really doesn't matter if you have QuickCharge or not. I won't be surprised if the OnePlus Two's real life battery performance turns out to be better than the Turbo's, actually.
So after that, given the list of pros (Better Camera, Better Performance, Extreme Value) and cons (Slightly big for one hand use, No NFC and No Qi charging, not a deal breaker for many I am assuming), is it still ok to go buy the Turbo at it's current price?
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I would recommend the XT1225 Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo for you instead of the XT1254 Droid Turbo. Unless you specifically need LTE band 13 or CDMA bands.
See this post for why...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...nt-shipped-t3158954/post62076085#post62076085

sHanKzZz said:
So now we have the new OnePlus Two with a bigger battery, better processor, more RAM, probably a better camera too, and all that at a much cheaper price. Is the Turbo still worth it?
650$ for the Turbo vs 400$ for the OnePlus Two where I am.
Let the Opinions roll!
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ChazzMatt said:
I would recommend the XT1225 Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo for you instead of the XT1254 Droid Turbo. Unless you specifically need LTE band 13 or CDMA bands.
See this post for why...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...nt-shipped-t3158954/post62076085#post62076085
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The Moto Maxx/Turbo is the way to go, I think is the "all in one" phone that you would ever need.
The only negative point for me is the lack of OIS on camera, but besides that, there is no other phone currently that can give you all the features that this phone has.

OnePlus is all hype.
Here's their strategy...
1- talk about bleeding edge specs
2- make 10 phones that supposedly hit that spec for photo purposes
3- tweet and post like mad about how great their beautiful new phone is and how much everyone wants it.
4- after 6 months of hype and the cost of the device comes in line with mainstream specs, make and release a few thousand phones that include ridiculous contests.
5- when the specs are no longer anything more than ok and production costs have dropped significantly so the once-hyped phone can be manufactured inexpensively but still retains the image of a high end device... release to the general public for market comparable price and reap the rewards.
6- repeat...

No argument there. One+ marketing sucks. By the time you can actually get the phone, it isn't cutting edge (if it ever was), and I've completely lost interest.

My oneplus one had better battery than my droid turbo/moto maxx, and i had no problem getting a one, also
i live in mexico,im not even a US citizen and i managed to get one, i dont know what hate de you guys have with the invite sistem, just put your mail and eventually youll get an invite.
i know im getting a oneplus two

Well, good for you. MANY people wanted a OnePlus last year that could not easily get one for to their stupid invitation system. The Two will likely be the same.
Enjoy your OnePlus.

Keep nexus 6 or get Moto X Pure Edition

New moto X looks pretty awesome... I don't see any reason not to switch... Anyone else thinking of doing the same?

clninja said:
New moto X looks pretty awesome... I don't see any reason not to switch... Anyone else thinking of doing the same?
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Smaller screen ,not amoled , and basically the same hardware.Nexus 6 should be faster with updates.
I can't find a reason to switch to moto x style.
If i do it ,i will pick a device with better specs (4gb ram,sd810).
First smartphone that i can think of is oneplus two.
The new nexus device(s) are not that far away either.

I'm going for the moto style that's what it's called in UK looks great and loving the build of my N6 so the new moto x style should be awesome and the price is good..
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vadergr said:
Smaller screen ,not amoled , and basically the same hardware.Nexus 6 should be faster with updates.
I can't find a reason to switch to moto x style.
If i do it ,i will pick a device with better specs (4gb ram,sd810).
First smartphone that i can think of is oneplus two.
The new nexus device(s) are not that far away either.
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You wouldn't pick up a Moto X because no 4gb of ram or 810 (which what good is an 810 if it had to be throttled to not overheat) or no amoled screen yet would pick up a oneplus two thats lacking.....
QHD screen
sd card support
NFC
Quick Charging
Front facing speakers
smaller mp camera
smaller screen than Moto X
Can only be activated on att& and tmobile
Need an invite to purchase
I'm sorry....what???

That's 20MP is tempting me to switch.

Grabbed the Nexus 6 originally in hopes that moto suite could be ported over. That has turned out to be pretty much a fail, so getting the moto x pure is probably the next best thing. Can't wait to get it! At this point if moto apps haven't been ported over to the nexus 6 I have a feeling it never will.

The Stig 04 said:
You wouldn't pick up a Moto X because no 4gb of ram or 810 (which what good is an 810 if it had to be throttled to not overheat) or no amoled screen yet would pick up a oneplus two thats lacking.....
QHD screen
sd card support
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Quick Charging
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smaller mp camera
smaller screen than Moto X
Can only be activated on att& and tmobile
Need an invite to purchase
I'm sorry....what???
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I can understand your thoughts and questions.
1)Nothing beats the deep blacks of amoled display.I get it that nexus's 6 display is not calibrated but i don't care that much.My projector needs to be calibrated, the screen of my phone doesn't have to (my opinion).I choose infinite contrast than accurate colors.Basically i prefer to have both , but samsung devices lost me as a customer since the implementation of knox counter.
2)sd810 is way better than 808 even if it throttles.My previous flex 2 did throttle but only in benchmarks.Had no impact on real life usage or gaming.The andreno of the 810 is a beast compared to the one of 808.You need that power when you have to deal with qhd screens.Also oneplus promised a better tuned sd810 for oneplus two model.
3)The oneplus 2 doesn't have quick charging but it charges relatively quick (early reports) and i personally never used nfc.Oneplus two will probably have better battery life performance than motorola style.
4)Will miss the dual speakers,and would like an sd card, i admit it
5)Camera performance was never that great on a Motorola device and more mpixels will not make guaranteed difference.I trust more the one on oneplus two (had oneplus one before)
6)I am from Europe , usually we don't depend that much on carriers .
7)Invite system sucks , but if you need one, you will get it easily.
8)The oneplus (and nexus 6) have great support on xda with unlocked bootloader and no warranty loss.
I am not saying that style is a bad device, not at all.I am just not receiving the "flagship" feeling of the other devices (no amoled , no 4gb ram , no sd810).For my needs, the nexus 6 is still the better one.

Your opinion, is the X 2014 still a good phone to buy to-date?

After a very disappointing event (Nexus wise) Google showcased today, I'm leaning toward the X 2014 Pure Edition. I've already made mine on Moto Maker and just waiting to pull the trigger.
I've had every nexus since the N1 but skipped out on the N6 due to its size. Now this year looks like I'm going to skip out again; the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5, the 6p (given has slightly better specs) is still too big for me. Mind you, I'm 6'6" with large hands, however I dont like big phones.. I dont like the fact I have to use finger-gymnastics to navigate the screen.
Anyways, given the stouter (sp?, word? lol) body of the X and its 5.2 display, it feels amazing. Quite perfect, actually... Reminds me of the G3; shorter body but housed a 5.5.. Amazing. And I really like the design of the moto x/n6 as well. minimal bezel, attractive, etc.
Given now this phone is a year old, would you still buy it today? I just want a 'new' device (the n5 has been great, treated me very nicely still runs perfect running 6.0 now), and I've always wanted to make my own moto x (always been a moto fan) but given what i do to phones and how i use them, the nexus always took my money. Since moto is pure Android out of the box, I think I can manage going away from a nexus this year.
Since the Moto Pure (2015) is too big, I've decided to maybe jump to the 2014 until next years moto or nexus..
Thoughts?

I agree that the new Pure edition (2015) is a bit too large. Though thinner than the Nexus 6 it is just about as tall. I own a 2014 model (AT&T) and find it to be near perfect for me size wise. As an average sized person with smaller hands it is a great fit. The 2013 model, which I also own was a bit too small in my opinion.
I consider myself a tech enthusiast. Always on the lookout for the latest, greatest thing I'll usually end up purchasing it at some point. Over time, perhaps it comes with age, I've found that those things which initially grab my attention (specs) matter less and less since code optimization and more RAM in the latest devices mean that even lower end phones perform very well. Bearing that in mind, Motorola phones tend to offer something that no other manufacturer does... a near stock experience with above average specs (CPU, RAM, screen and camera) and just the right amount of truly value added software to enhance the user experience. In terms of sheer power it likely won't match flagships on benchmark tests, but in day to day use and even in side by side comparisons you will be hard pressed to notice a difference in performance... for almost half the price. In my opinion this makes a Moto X a better value than a Nexus or any flagship device all day long.
So in answer to your question, yes, the Moto X 2014 is still a great buy if you can handle your buddies gloating over their expensive flagship devices while chugging down a beer at the local pub. Just don't bother with a carrier variant. Grab the Pure edition.

I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.

rapperman said:
I agree that the new Pure edition (2015) is a bit too large. Though thinner than the Nexus 6 it is just about as tall. I own a 2014 model (AT&T) and find it to be near perfect for me size wise. As an average sized person with smaller hands it is a great fit. The 2013 model, which I also own was a bit too small in my opinion.
I consider myself a tech enthusiast. Always on the lookout for the latest, greatest thing I'll usually end up purchasing it at some point. Over time, perhaps it comes with age, I've found that those things which initially grab my attention (specs) matter less and less since code optimization and more RAM in the latest devices mean that even lower end phones perform very well. Bearing that in mind, Motorola phones tend to offer something that no other manufacturer does... a near stock experience with above average specs (CPU, RAM, screen and camera) and just the right amount of truly value added software to enhance the user experience. In terms of sheer power it likely won't match flagships on benchmark tests, but in day to day use and even in side by side comparisons you will be hard pressed to notice a difference in performance... for almost half the price. In my opinion this makes a Moto X a better value than a Nexus or any flagship device all day long.
So in answer to your question, yes, the Moto X 2014 is still a great buy if you can handle your buddies gloating over their expensive flagship devices while chugging down a beer at the local pub. Just don't bother with a carrier variant. Grab the Pure edition.
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I completely agree on everything you said.. Well put.. You and I think a lot alike.. However, (lol) the only difference with me is that yes, I consider myself a tech enthusiast, but I dont necessarily itch for the latest and greatest. Because sometimes the latest and greatest is not always the greatest (for my uses anyway). I still consider my Nexus 5 to be at the top of the list compared to devices today... Most of that 'top of the list' title is due to pure android of course. Nothing beats that experience. Yeah, specs arent "great" and the average user who sees the Nexus' specs on paper wont give the device the light day, but it still out performs most if not all devices today and I've been perfectly content with its specs. But gah, I've been a big fan of the design Moto has instilled in their phones, and that in itself is a big attraction to me.. I sometimes wish the n5 was a tad bigger with less bezel, and honestly, the moto x 2014 fits the bill perfectly.
Hahaha that's funny you say that.. I have buddies all the time trying to get the "latest and greatest" top tier phone with the best of everything but continue getting let down when my 2 year old phone runs circles around their bloated and skinned devices. So to have my buddies chug on a beer and gloat about their high end devices, im sitting over here thinking, "thats cute".. User experience means more to me than specs to an extent... Just like you said, once time passes, those specs become less and less relevant and all you have left is user experience. I'd take a phone with lesser specs and amazing user experience than grab a device with high end everything but cant keep up with what im doing. Thats where our beloved Nexus and Moto X's come to play.
So thank you for your input! I agree on the Pure Edition 100% :good:
surrealjam said:
I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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Didnt sound negative at all, sir! This is just good discussion.
You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the design. Its such a good looking device. And to me, thats why i like it over the 5x. IMO the 5x isnt so attractive. Moto x wins on that one. The design of the phone really makes my phone buying hard. Every Nexus so far has been good looking imo except these recent ones. I'm picky lol.
Ok, I might have stated my argument incorrectly.. Lets try this, "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5 that is relevant to my uses"
- Larger battery? Sure does. However I was/am still getting 4-5 hours SOT on medium-heavy usage. So battery has never really been an issue for me.
- New processor. Yes, this is the only thing that attracts me.
- Better Camera? Sure. A lot better actually. But I was/am taking amazing photos with n5 camera now. I can link you to my instagram if need be lol (The moto X has a better camera than my n5 so ill be content). Yes, I would LOVE the 1.55 pixel, but its not the deciding factor when i look for a new phone.
Fingerprint scanner? Irrelevant for me. I couldnt care less for it. Now, put that fingerprint scanner on the power button (like the z5) then youll have my attention.
So yes, the 5x has more to offer than the moto, but the moto is an upgrade (kinda) from my n5.. The deciding factor for me is the design tbh.. I think the 5x doesnt look very good. Its as damn near the same size and everything of the z3, only the 5x being a tad taller. While the Moto houses the same screen size (5.2), is a lot shorter, has minimal bezel, and just looks and feels better.
Hope that clears some stuff up

I bought the Moto X 2014 last week and I'm more than happy with it!
It's fast enough to last me for a couple of years (I don't really game on it), and the size, for me, is great..
This is the largest I want to go!
After some tweaking (unlock bootloader, root, install Xposed) it's even better!
Remove some bloatware / unused apps, set Min/Max CPU speed, use NovaLauncher, tweak some notification things and the vlume sliders and it's near perfect!
I'd recommend it as "good" to the average user and "awesome" to the advanced user/tweaker

surrealjam said:
I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature

Incredible_Culp said:
sometimes the latest and greatest is not always the greatest
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Yep... pretty much my point.
Every phone nowadays can make calls, send texts, take pictures and get you from point A to point B. The Nexus devices do it absolutely bare-bones which is fine for guys like us but not flashy enough for others. In my opinion only Motorola seems to understand the needs of the "inbetweener." (lol if that's even a word!) The person who is seeking a device that is minimal (for the sake of performance) yet functional (doesn't skimp on features). The Moto X is that device... essentially stock android with some added Motorola software that actually enhances the user experience.

Flipz77 said:
Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
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I have a moto x2014 as well but I barely see 2:30 hrs of SOT ....I'm running stock 5.1

I would have answered yes until today's Motorola announcement that carrier versions of the Moto X 2014 will not be upgraded to Android 6.0

That's the carriers fault though isn't it?
Probably be able to get CM I'm sure.
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N01tra said:
I bought the Moto X 2014 last week and I'm more than happy with it!
It's fast enough to last me for a couple of years (I don't really game on it), and the size, for me, is great..
This is the largest I want to go!
After some tweaking (unlock bootloader, root, install Xposed) it's even better!
Remove some bloatware / unused apps, set Min/Max CPU speed, use NovaLauncher, tweak some notification things and the vlume sliders and it's near perfect!
I'd recommend it as "good" to the average user and "awesome" to the advanced user/tweaker
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I can definitely see why you say that.. I concur
Flipz77 said:
Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
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that signature is hilarious -- i dont game, so i have no worries on that
rapperman said:
Yep... pretty much my point.
Every phone nowadays can make calls, send texts, take pictures and get you from point A to point B. The Nexus devices do it absolutely bare-bones which is fine for guys like us but not flashy enough for others. In my opinion only Motorola seems to understand the needs of the "inbetweener." (lol if that's even a word!) The person who is seeking a device that is minimal (for the sake of performance) yet functional (doesn't skimp on features). The Moto X is that device... essentially stock android with some added Motorola software that actually enhances the user experience.
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I can see why you say that.. makes sense.. and come to think of it, youre right.. Even though our beloved nexus devices are the creme of the crop (to some people), its lacks certain things that i think would be nice to have.. small things nonetheless. slightly better camera, etc.. But i know that our nexus devices arent made to be top tier, so its understandable and i accept it.
but going off what you say, "Moto seems to understand the needs of the inbetweener". I concur. They make a device thats pure android, add better than average features (but not over the top that drives up the price), and still make it reasonably priced. i like that, and this thread is making my decision to pull the trigger even stronger.. Monday cant come here fast enough.